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I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an except

Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:41 am

From FB

Conrad James Pheasants:

I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an exception today!

Lucy just picked up the girls up from their first session back for the swimming club which was great but the clowns from the Assembly have made it compulsory that you have to take your kids straight from the pool to the car in their swimwear & towels whilst they are still wet and are unable to use the changing rooms!

My biggest concern is that these tinpot politicians love the power and micro managing of us and will never relinquish the control long after the virus finally disappears!

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:49 am

Forever Blue wrote:From FB

Conrad James Pheasants:

I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an exception today!

Lucy just picked up the girls up from their first session back for the swimming club which was great but the clowns from the Assembly have made it compulsory that you have to take your kids straight from the pool to the car in their swimwear & towels whilst they are still wet and are unable to use the changing rooms!

My biggest concern is that these tinpot politicians love the power and micro managing of us and will never relinquish the control long after the virus finally disappears!


The assembly are a joke, to be an assembly member you have to stupid, do away with it, please give us a referendum to get rid of :thumbup:

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:52 am

Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:From FB

Conrad James Pheasants:

I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an exception today!

Lucy just picked up the girls up from their first session back for the swimming club which was great but the clowns from the Assembly have made it compulsory that you have to take your kids straight from the pool to the car in their swimwear & towels whilst they are still wet and are unable to use the changing rooms!

My biggest concern is that these tinpot politicians love the power and micro managing of us and will never relinquish the control long after the virus finally disappears!


The assembly are a joke, to be an assembly member you have to stupid, do away with it, please give us a referendum to get rid of :thumbup:




I agree Roger, biggest ever waste of tax payers money.

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:05 am

Forever Blue wrote:From FB

Conrad James Pheasants:

I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an exception today!

Lucy just picked up the girls up from their first session back for the swimming club which was great but the clowns from the Assembly have made it compulsory that you have to take your kids straight from the pool to the car in their swimwear & towels whilst they are still wet and are unable to use the changing rooms!

My biggest concern is that these tinpot politicians love the power and micro managing of us and will never relinquish the control long after the virus finally disappears!


It's the same in England. Went to Cotswolds for holiday last week and while using the swimming pool we had to turn up ready for swimming and go home in wet swimming stuff so it's not just a Welsh Government thing

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:10 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:From FB

Conrad James Pheasants:

I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an exception today!

Lucy just picked up the girls up from their first session back for the swimming club which was great but the clowns from the Assembly have made it compulsory that you have to take your kids straight from the pool to the car in their swimwear & towels whilst they are still wet and are unable to use the changing rooms!

My biggest concern is that these tinpot politicians love the power and micro managing of us and will never relinquish the control long after the virus finally disappears!


The assembly are a joke, to be an assembly member you have to stupid, do away with it, please give us a referendum to get rid of :thumbup:




I agree Roger, biggest ever waste of tax payers money.


- Boris’ Garden bridge cost £60m without ever being built.

- HS2 will cost over £40 billion to reduce the train time from Birmingham to London by 20 minutes.

- Over £300m spent to convert the Olympic Stadium for West Ham. West Ham’s annual rent doesn’t even cover the costs of running the stadium for an entire season.

- Iraq and Afghanistan wars cost £20 billion.

- Billions of pounds siphoned off to Tory party friends and donors with sham PPE contracts.

- Current cost of Brexit is estimated to be £130 billion and we haven’t even left yet. Not built the infrastructure required to handle Brexit.

A 45m pound building down the bay is a drop in an ocean of wasted taxes since the Senedd was opened. I’m not a fan of the current crop of politicians that occupy but I’m also not a fan of the idiots occupying Westminster currently but I’m not gonna ask for us to abolish Westminster.

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:18 am

WestCoastBlue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:From FB

Conrad James Pheasants:

I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an exception today!

Lucy just picked up the girls up from their first session back for the swimming club which was great but the clowns from the Assembly have made it compulsory that you have to take your kids straight from the pool to the car in their swimwear & towels whilst they are still wet and are unable to use the changing rooms!

My biggest concern is that these tinpot politicians love the power and micro managing of us and will never relinquish the control long after the virus finally disappears!


The assembly are a joke, to be an assembly member you have to stupid, do away with it, please give us a referendum to get rid of :thumbup:




I agree Roger, biggest ever waste of tax payers money.


- Boris’ Garden bridge cost £60m without ever being built.

- HS2 will cost over £40 billion to reduce the train time from Birmingham to London by 20 minutes.

- Over £300m spent to convert the Olympic Stadium for West Ham. West Ham’s annual rent doesn’t even cover the costs of running the stadium for an entire season.

- Iraq and Afghanistan wars cost £20 billion.

- Billions of pounds siphoned off to Tory party friends and donors with sham PPE contracts.

- Current cost of Brexit is estimated to be £130 billion and we haven’t even left yet. Not built the infrastructure required to handle Brexit.

A 45m pound building down the bay is a drop in an ocean of wasted taxes since the Senedd was opened. I’m not a fan of the current crop of politicians that occupy but I’m also not a fan of the idiots occupying Westminster currently but I’m not gonna ask for us to abolish Westminster.



They are all idiots both gvmnts labour as been in power down bay since it started and throughout that time they've wasted pots load of money and made stupid rules like ban smoking on beaches Amongst other things....
Cons not much better must be a politician thing that effects their thinking....

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:43 am

WestCoastBlue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:From FB

Conrad James Pheasants:

I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an exception today!

Lucy just picked up the girls up from their first session back for the swimming club which was great but the clowns from the Assembly have made it compulsory that you have to take your kids straight from the pool to the car in their swimwear & towels whilst they are still wet and are unable to use the changing rooms!

My biggest concern is that these tinpot politicians love the power and micro managing of us and will never relinquish the control long after the virus finally disappears!


The assembly are a joke, to be an assembly member you have to stupid, do away with it, please give us a referendum to get rid of :thumbup:




I agree Roger, biggest ever waste of tax payers money.


- Boris’ Garden bridge cost £60m without ever being built.

- HS2 will cost over £40 billion to reduce the train time from Birmingham to London by 20 minutes.

- Over £300m spent to convert the Olympic Stadium for West Ham. West Ham’s annual rent doesn’t even cover the costs of running the stadium for an entire season.

- Iraq and Afghanistan wars cost £20 billion.

- Billions of pounds siphoned off to Tory party friends and donors with sham PPE contracts.

- Current cost of Brexit is estimated to be £130 billion and we haven’t even left yet. Not built the infrastructure required to handle Brexit.

A 45m pound building down the bay is a drop in an ocean of wasted taxes since the Senedd was opened. I’m not a fan of the current crop of politicians that occupy but I’m also not a fan of the idiots occupying Westminster currently but I’m not gonna ask for us to abolish Westminster.



its not the building its the incompetence within it...

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:44 am

pembroke allan wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:From FB

Conrad James Pheasants:

I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an exception today!

Lucy just picked up the girls up from their first session back for the swimming club which was great but the clowns from the Assembly have made it compulsory that you have to take your kids straight from the pool to the car in their swimwear & towels whilst they are still wet and are unable to use the changing rooms!

My biggest concern is that these tinpot politicians love the power and micro managing of us and will never relinquish the control long after the virus finally disappears!


The assembly are a joke, to be an assembly member you have to stupid, do away with it, please give us a referendum to get rid of :thumbup:




I agree Roger, biggest ever waste of tax payers money.


- Boris’ Garden bridge cost £60m without ever being built.

- HS2 will cost over £40 billion to reduce the train time from Birmingham to London by 20 minutes.

- Over £300m spent to convert the Olympic Stadium for West Ham. West Ham’s annual rent doesn’t even cover the costs of running the stadium for an entire season.

- Iraq and Afghanistan wars cost £20 billion.

- Billions of pounds siphoned off to Tory party friends and donors with sham PPE contracts.

- Current cost of Brexit is estimated to be £130 billion and we haven’t even left yet. Not built the infrastructure required to handle Brexit.

A 45m pound building down the bay is a drop in an ocean of wasted taxes since the Senedd was opened. I’m not a fan of the current crop of politicians that occupy but I’m also not a fan of the idiots occupying Westminster currently but I’m not gonna ask for us to abolish Westminster.



They are all idiots both gvmnts labour as been in power down bay since it started and throughout that time they've wasted pots load of money and made stupid rules like ban smoking on beaches Amongst other things....
Cons not much better must be a politician thing that effects their thinking....


Agree with you on that. Annoys me when people get sucked into the “he's one of us, he’s a man of the people” bollocks that Farage and Johnson have successfully pulled off. They’re rich, upper class, Eton boys who would snub almost all of us as friends and co workers but because Farage pulled a pint in a pub for a pic once and Johnson has messy hair people buy into the idea these politicians represent them.

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:45 am

skidemin wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:From FB

Conrad James Pheasants:

I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an exception today!

Lucy just picked up the girls up from their first session back for the swimming club which was great but the clowns from the Assembly have made it compulsory that you have to take your kids straight from the pool to the car in their swimwear & towels whilst they are still wet and are unable to use the changing rooms!

My biggest concern is that these tinpot politicians love the power and micro managing of us and will never relinquish the control long after the virus finally disappears!


The assembly are a joke, to be an assembly member you have to stupid, do away with it, please give us a referendum to get rid of :thumbup:




I agree Roger, biggest ever waste of tax payers money.


- Boris’ Garden bridge cost £60m without ever being built.

- HS2 will cost over £40 billion to reduce the train time from Birmingham to London by 20 minutes.

- Over £300m spent to convert the Olympic Stadium for West Ham. West Ham’s annual rent doesn’t even cover the costs of running the stadium for an entire season.

- Iraq and Afghanistan wars cost £20 billion.

- Billions of pounds siphoned off to Tory party friends and donors with sham PPE contracts.

- Current cost of Brexit is estimated to be £130 billion and we haven’t even left yet. Not built the infrastructure required to handle Brexit.

A 45m pound building down the bay is a drop in an ocean of wasted taxes since the Senedd was opened. I’m not a fan of the current crop of politicians that occupy but I’m also not a fan of the idiots occupying Westminster currently but I’m not gonna ask for us to abolish Westminster.



its not the building its the incompetence within it...


That’s a separate debate. I was simply pointing out other, much larger wastes of tax payer money. In line with the “biggest ever waste of tax payer money” comment.

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:52 am

WestCoastBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:From FB

Conrad James Pheasants:

I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an exception today!

Lucy just picked up the girls up from their first session back for the swimming club which was great but the clowns from the Assembly have made it compulsory that you have to take your kids straight from the pool to the car in their swimwear & towels whilst they are still wet and are unable to use the changing rooms!

My biggest concern is that these tinpot politicians love the power and micro managing of us and will never relinquish the control long after the virus finally disappears!


The assembly are a joke, to be an assembly member you have to stupid, do away with it, please give us a referendum to get rid of :thumbup:




I agree Roger, biggest ever waste of tax payers money.


- Boris’ Garden bridge cost £60m without ever being built.

- HS2 will cost over £40 billion to reduce the train time from Birmingham to London by 20 minutes.

- Over £300m spent to convert the Olympic Stadium for West Ham. West Ham’s annual rent doesn’t even cover the costs of running the stadium for an entire season.

- Iraq and Afghanistan wars cost £20 billion.

- Billions of pounds siphoned off to Tory party friends and donors with sham PPE contracts.

- Current cost of Brexit is estimated to be £130 billion and we haven’t even left yet. Not built the infrastructure required to handle Brexit.

A 45m pound building down the bay is a drop in an ocean of wasted taxes since the Senedd was opened. I’m not a fan of the current crop of politicians that occupy but I’m also not a fan of the idiots occupying Westminster currently but I’m not gonna ask for us to abolish Westminster.



They are all idiots both gvmnts labour as been in power down bay since it started and throughout that time they've wasted pots load of money and made stupid rules like ban smoking on beaches Amongst other things....
Cons not much better must be a politician thing that effects their thinking....


Agree with you on that. Annoys me when people get sucked into the “he's one of us, he’s a man of the people” bollocks that Farage and Johnson have successfully pulled off. They’re rich, upper class, Eton boys who would snub almost all of us as friends and co workers but because Farage pulled a pint in a pub for a pic once and Johnson has messy hair people buy into the idea these politicians represent them.



you actually think this ?

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:18 am

WestCoastBlue wrote:Current cost of Brexit is estimated to be £130 billion and we haven’t even left yet. Not built the infrastructure required to handle Brexit.


The £130 billion you quote is an estimate? So where did you get this estimate from and how long is this amount spread over?

Further I'm sure there there will be an estimate out there somewhere which estimates a smaller amount or even shows us making money out of BREXIT as we will no longer be paying EU contributions and the UK will receive far more in tariff charges from the EU than they will pay us because they export far more to us than we do to them.

Personally I don't recognise the £130 billion figure quoted and even if someone puts their hands up to it I will guaranteed it is some remain supporter misusing worst case scenario data.

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:47 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:Current cost of Brexit is estimated to be £130 billion and we haven’t even left yet. Not built the infrastructure required to handle Brexit.


The £130 billion you quote is an estimate? So where did you get this estimate from and how long is this amount spread over?

Further I'm sure there there will be an estimate out there somewhere which estimates a smaller amount or even shows us making money out of BREXIT as we will no longer be paying EU contributions and the UK will receive far more in tariff charges from the EU than they will pay us because they export far more to us than we do to them.

Personally I don't recognise the £130 billion figure quoted and even if someone puts their hands up to it I will guaranteed it is some remain supporter misusing worst case scenario data.


Bloomberg Economics did the research, they’re an international news company based in New York. They took the estimated growth of the British economy before Brexit and compared it to when they did they’re research which gave them a figure of our economy being ~130b smaller than predicted. I’m not an economist but I would imagine this was all based on less skilled workers emigrating here, more skilled workers leaving (on a personal note, I know several people who before Covid were making serious inquiries about moving abroad as a direct result of Brexit), companies leaving the UK, the impact on tourism.
Like I said it’s estimates. I also doubt it takes into account the cost of 20+ lorry parks we need built before January which haven’t started yet.

As for EU contributions, over 47 years we paid £217b into the EU so roughly £5b a year which in terms of international finances is a paltry figure. As for lower import fees on products it’s because you get a lower quality product, take America’s chlorinated chicken for example. We don’t have the sway or power to dictate all these brilliant deals for the UK so we’re settling for whatever countries offer us.

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:52 am

skidemin wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:From FB

Conrad James Pheasants:

I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an exception today!

Lucy just picked up the girls up from their first session back for the swimming club which was great but the clowns from the Assembly have made it compulsory that you have to take your kids straight from the pool to the car in their swimwear & towels whilst they are still wet and are unable to use the changing rooms!

My biggest concern is that these tinpot politicians love the power and micro managing of us and will never relinquish the control long after the virus finally disappears!


The assembly are a joke, to be an assembly member you have to stupid, do away with it, please give us a referendum to get rid of :thumbup:




I agree Roger, biggest ever waste of tax payers money.


- Boris’ Garden bridge cost £60m without ever being built.

- HS2 will cost over £40 billion to reduce the train time from Birmingham to London by 20 minutes.

- Over £300m spent to convert the Olympic Stadium for West Ham. West Ham’s annual rent doesn’t even cover the costs of running the stadium for an entire season.

- Iraq and Afghanistan wars cost £20 billion.

- Billions of pounds siphoned off to Tory party friends and donors with sham PPE contracts.

- Current cost of Brexit is estimated to be £130 billion and we haven’t even left yet. Not built the infrastructure required to handle Brexit.

A 45m pound building down the bay is a drop in an ocean of wasted taxes since the Senedd was opened. I’m not a fan of the current crop of politicians that occupy but I’m also not a fan of the idiots occupying Westminster currently but I’m not gonna ask for us to abolish Westminster.



They are all idiots both gvmnts labour as been in power down bay since it started and throughout that time they've wasted pots load of money and made stupid rules like ban smoking on beaches Amongst other things....
Cons not much better must be a politician thing that effects their thinking....


Agree with you on that. Annoys me when people get sucked into the “he's one of us, he’s a man of the people” bollocks that Farage and Johnson have successfully pulled off. They’re rich, upper class, Eton boys who would snub almost all of us as friends and co workers but because Farage pulled a pint in a pub for a pic once and Johnson has messy hair people buy into the idea these politicians represent them.



you actually think this ?


Do I think the majority of the people who voted were swayed by this? No, but I do believe a fair few people voted based on the character rather than their policies.

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:01 am

WestCoastBlue wrote:
skidemin wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:From FB

Conrad James Pheasants:

I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an exception today!

Lucy just picked up the girls up from their first session back for the swimming club which was great but the clowns from the Assembly have made it compulsory that you have to take your kids straight from the pool to the car in their swimwear & towels whilst they are still wet and are unable to use the changing rooms!

My biggest concern is that these tinpot politicians love the power and micro managing of us and will never relinquish the control long after the virus finally disappears!


The assembly are a joke, to be an assembly member you have to stupid, do away with it, please give us a referendum to get rid of :thumbup:




I agree Roger, biggest ever waste of tax payers money.


- Boris’ Garden bridge cost £60m without ever being built.

- HS2 will cost over £40 billion to reduce the train time from Birmingham to London by 20 minutes.

- Over £300m spent to convert the Olympic Stadium for West Ham. West Ham’s annual rent doesn’t even cover the costs of running the stadium for an entire season.

- Iraq and Afghanistan wars cost £20 billion.

- Billions of pounds siphoned off to Tory party friends and donors with sham PPE contracts.

- Current cost of Brexit is estimated to be £130 billion and we haven’t even left yet. Not built the infrastructure required to handle Brexit.

A 45m pound building down the bay is a drop in an ocean of wasted taxes since the Senedd was opened. I’m not a fan of the current crop of politicians that occupy but I’m also not a fan of the idiots occupying Westminster currently but I’m not gonna ask for us to abolish Westminster.



They are all idiots both gvmnts labour as been in power down bay since it started and throughout that time they've wasted pots load of money and made stupid rules like ban smoking on beaches Amongst other things....
Cons not much better must be a politician thing that effects their thinking....


Agree with you on that. Annoys me when people get sucked into the “he's one of us, he’s a man of the people” bollocks that Farage and Johnson have successfully pulled off. They’re rich, upper class, Eton boys who would snub almost all of us as friends and co workers but because Farage pulled a pint in a pub for a pic once and Johnson has messy hair people buy into the idea these politicians represent them.



you actually think this ?


Do I think the majority of the people who voted were swayed by this? No, but I do believe a fair few people voted based on the character rather than their policies.



People do vote for character look at labour got rid Corbyn because labour knew he was unelectable? New bloke got better chance of winning election because he presents better to the public ,

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:05 am

WestCoastBlue wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:Current cost of Brexit is estimated to be £130 billion and we haven’t even left yet. Not built the infrastructure required to handle Brexit.


The £130 billion you quote is an estimate? So where did you get this estimate from and how long is this amount spread over?

Further I'm sure there there will be an estimate out there somewhere which estimates a smaller amount or even shows us making money out of BREXIT as we will no longer be paying EU contributions and the UK will receive far more in tariff charges from the EU than they will pay us because they export far more to us than we do to them.

Personally I don't recognise the £130 billion figure quoted and even if someone puts their hands up to it I will guaranteed it is some remain supporter misusing worst case scenario data.


Bloomberg Economics did the research, they’re an international news company based in New York. They took the estimated growth of the British economy before Brexit and compared it to when they did they’re research which gave them a figure of our economy being ~130b smaller than predicted. I’m not an economist but I would imagine this was all based on less skilled workers emigrating here, more skilled workers leaving (on a personal note, I know several people who before Covid were making serious inquiries about moving abroad as a direct result of Brexit), companies leaving the UK, the impact on tourism.
Like I said it’s estimates. I also doubt it takes into account the cost of 20+ lorry parks we need built before January which haven’t started yet.

As for EU contributions, over 47 years we paid £217b into the EU so roughly £5b a year which in terms of international finances is a paltry figure. As for lower import fees on products it’s because you get a lower quality product, take America’s chlorinated chicken for example. We don’t have the sway or power to dictate all these brilliant deals for the UK so we’re settling for whatever countries offer us.



the trouble with all of that ,is people ,joe blogs or bloomberg just do not know... if you set out to do a negative report that is what you end up with... likewise a positive one.. lots of maybes about companies re locating, losing skilled workers and lorry parks... i didnt vote at the time because there was no definite just people claiming there was on either side about a host of things ... i would vote leave now though because A } much of the predicted immediate collapse / negatives did not materialise so why believe their other predictions ? B} i believe in democracy... and C } i keep reading things like this that are in no way fact based....and are using guesstimates..

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:14 am

Thought this was a thread on city and refunds? :lol:

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:29 am

pembroke allan wrote:Thought this was a thread on city and refunds? :lol:



it started off about swimwear... but seems if you want to rant about Boris, Brexit ,too many Rs in covid , or ST refunds go for it.. it hasnt got Swansea in the title so is also a Roathie free zone..

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:51 am

skidemin wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Thought this was a thread on city and refunds? :lol:



it started off about swimwear... but seems if you want to rant about Boris, Brexit ,too many Rs in covid , or ST refunds go for it.. it hasnt got Swansea in the title so is also a Roathie free zone..



Thank God for small mercies! :mrgreen:
But as far as aware this article is wrong as it clearly stated couple of weeks ago the sky deal meant that st holders got home games and midweek games free..... only Saturday away you paid for? And I was told will get pro rarta credit on next season's ST for games missed through covid.... talk about covid misinformation? :laughing6:

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:58 am

skidemin wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:Current cost of Brexit is estimated to be £130 billion and we haven’t even left yet. Not built the infrastructure required to handle Brexit.


The £130 billion you quote is an estimate? So where did you get this estimate from and how long is this amount spread over?

Further I'm sure there there will be an estimate out there somewhere which estimates a smaller amount or even shows us making money out of BREXIT as we will no longer be paying EU contributions and the UK will receive far more in tariff charges from the EU than they will pay us because they export far more to us than we do to them.

Personally I don't recognise the £130 billion figure quoted and even if someone puts their hands up to it I will guaranteed it is some remain supporter misusing worst case scenario data.


Bloomberg Economics did the research, they’re an international news company based in New York. They took the estimated growth of the British economy before Brexit and compared it to when they did they’re research which gave them a figure of our economy being ~130b smaller than predicted. I’m not an economist but I would imagine this was all based on less skilled workers emigrating here, more skilled workers leaving (on a personal note, I know several people who before Covid were making serious inquiries about moving abroad as a direct result of Brexit), companies leaving the UK, the impact on tourism.
Like I said it’s estimates. I also doubt it takes into account the cost of 20+ lorry parks we need built before January which haven’t started yet.

As for EU contributions, over 47 years we paid £217b into the EU so roughly £5b a year which in terms of international finances is a paltry figure. As for lower import fees on products it’s because you get a lower quality product, take America’s chlorinated chicken for example. We don’t have the sway or power to dictate all these brilliant deals for the UK so we’re settling for whatever countries offer us.



the trouble with all of that ,is people ,joe blogs or bloomberg just do not know... if you set out to do a negative report that is what you end up with... likewise a positive one.. lots of maybes about companies re locating, losing skilled workers and lorry parks... i didnt vote at the time because there was no definite just people claiming there was on either side about a host of things ... i would vote leave now though because A } much of the predicted immediate collapse / negatives did not materialise so why believe their other predictions ? B} i believe in democracy... and C } i keep reading things like this that are in no way fact based....and are using guesstimates..


Joe Bloggs doesn't know but Bloomberg at least have a team and researchers who understand internation economics and can make educated guesses at a situation, Guesses which have merit like;

Companies relocating because of Brexit:

Barclays bank, relocating £166 billion of their assets to Ireland as a contingency plan to deal with Brexit.

Ford, already closed one factory and looking to relocate to mainland Europe because No Deal would be a catastrophe for the company.

HSBC, moving its Polish and Irish subsidiaries from its London base to a French unit.

Panasonic and Sony, both moved their UK headquarters to the Netherlands.

Nissan, reversed plans to invest in new manufacturing capacity in the U.K., citing ‘continuing uncertainty’ around Brexit

Toyota, could end UK production as early as 2023 if the country leaves the European Union without a deal

Losing skilled workers:

Emigration numbers
2009 - 368k
2010 - 339k
2011 - 351k
2012 - 363k
2013 - 350k
2014 - 358k
2015 - 334k
2016 - 369k - Brexit vote
2017 - 395k
2018 - 372k
2019 - 407k


The 4 numbers highlighted in red are the 4 highest years of emigration from the UK in 10 years, the 5th highest is all the way back in 2009.

And Lorry parks

Michael Gove “Well, there are five sites that we were looking at and indeed yesterday the Department for Transport confirmed that a site at Ashford has been secured."
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-st ... -1-6749045

"Up to a further 29 lorry parks are to be built"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 04436.html

"U.K. Housing Secretary Robert Jenrick gave himself sweeping powers to build truck parks across large parts of England to avoid chaotic queues at ports."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ss-england



Literally this week the government made plans to rapidly build lorry parks without needing local councils consent.

Like I said £130b is an estimate but it's an educated estimate and I'd wager a team of economists and researchers combined will have a better estimate than Joe Bloggs.

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:30 pm

WestCoastBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:From FB

Conrad James Pheasants:

I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an exception today!

Lucy just picked up the girls up from their first session back for the swimming club which was great but the clowns from the Assembly have made it compulsory that you have to take your kids straight from the pool to the car in their swimwear & towels whilst they are still wet and are unable to use the changing rooms!

My biggest concern is that these tinpot politicians love the power and micro managing of us and will never relinquish the control long after the virus finally disappears!


The assembly are a joke, to be an assembly member you have to stupid, do away with it, please give us a referendum to get rid of :thumbup:




I agree Roger, biggest ever waste of tax payers money.


- Boris’ Garden bridge cost £60m without ever being built.

- HS2 will cost over £40 billion to reduce the train time from Birmingham to London by 20 minutes.

- Over £300m spent to convert the Olympic Stadium for West Ham. West Ham’s annual rent doesn’t even cover the costs of running the stadium for an entire season.

- Iraq and Afghanistan wars cost £20 billion.

- Billions of pounds siphoned off to Tory party friends and donors with sham PPE contracts.

- Current cost of Brexit is estimated to be £130 billion and we haven’t even left yet. Not built the infrastructure required to handle Brexit.

A 45m pound building down the bay is a drop in an ocean of wasted taxes since the Senedd was opened. I’m not a fan of the current crop of politicians that occupy but I’m also not a fan of the idiots occupying Westminster currently but I’m not gonna ask for us to abolish Westminster.



They are all idiots both gvmnts labour as been in power down bay since it started and throughout that time they've wasted pots load of money and made stupid rules like ban smoking on beaches Amongst other things....
Cons not much better must be a politician thing that effects their thinking....


Agree with you on that. Annoys me when people get sucked into the “he's one of us, he’s a man of the people” bollocks that Farage and Johnson have successfully pulled off. They’re rich, upper class, Eton boys who would snub almost all of us as friends and co workers but because Farage pulled a pint in a pub for a pic once and Johnson has messy hair people buy into the idea these politicians represent them.

I’d guess the current labour leader is also pretty rich mate as are pretty much all politicians. All as bad as each other imo.

Re: I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an ex

Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:47 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:From FB

Conrad James Pheasants:

I never rant on social media but I'm going to make an exception today!

Lucy just picked up the girls up from their first session back for the swimming club which was great but the clowns from the Assembly have made it compulsory that you have to take your kids straight from the pool to the car in their swimwear & towels whilst they are still wet and are unable to use the changing rooms!

My biggest concern is that these tinpot politicians love the power and micro managing of us and will never relinquish the control long after the virus finally disappears!


The assembly are a joke, to be an assembly member you have to stupid, do away with it, please give us a referendum to get rid of :thumbup:




I agree Roger, biggest ever waste of tax payers money.


- Boris’ Garden bridge cost £60m without ever being built.

- HS2 will cost over £40 billion to reduce the train time from Birmingham to London by 20 minutes.

- Over £300m spent to convert the Olympic Stadium for West Ham. West Ham’s annual rent doesn’t even cover the costs of running the stadium for an entire season.

- Iraq and Afghanistan wars cost £20 billion.

- Billions of pounds siphoned off to Tory party friends and donors with sham PPE contracts.

- Current cost of Brexit is estimated to be £130 billion and we haven’t even left yet. Not built the infrastructure required to handle Brexit.

A 45m pound building down the bay is a drop in an ocean of wasted taxes since the Senedd was opened. I’m not a fan of the current crop of politicians that occupy but I’m also not a fan of the idiots occupying Westminster currently but I’m not gonna ask for us to abolish Westminster.



They are all idiots both gvmnts labour as been in power down bay since it started and throughout that time they've wasted pots load of money and made stupid rules like ban smoking on beaches Amongst other things....
Cons not much better must be a politician thing that effects their thinking....


Agree with you on that. Annoys me when people get sucked into the “he's one of us, he’s a man of the people” bollocks that Farage and Johnson have successfully pulled off. They’re rich, upper class, Eton boys who would snub almost all of us as friends and co workers but because Farage pulled a pint in a pub for a pic once and Johnson has messy hair people buy into the idea these politicians represent them.

I’d guess the current labour leader is also pretty rich mate as are pretty much all politicians. All as bad as each other imo.


Aye I'd imagine so too.