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You could see it a mile off

Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:16 am

Why are people moaning and surprised about holidays being cancelled and quarantine being put in place ,watching the news people trying to blame everyone else but themselves ,is it just me or am I missing something, what happened to using your common sense ,you could see the mix off alcohol , partying ,etc in these resorts was going to spread the virus again I just don't get it why people think it wasn't going to happen

Re: You could see it a mile off

Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:22 am

ion wrote:Why are people moaning and surprised about holidays being cancelled and quarantine being put in place ,watching the news people trying to blame everyone else but themselves ,is it just me or am I missing something, what happened to using your common sense ,you could see the mix off alcohol , partying ,etc in these resorts was going to spread the virus again I just don't get it why people think it wasn't going to happen



It's not only going abroad is the problem.... spike in Cardiff is the same age group 18/30 its about socializing to close without taking nessasary precautions.

Re: You could see it a mile off

Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:44 am

ion wrote:Why are people moaning and surprised about holidays being cancelled and quarantine being put in place ,watching the news people trying to blame everyone else but themselves ,is it just me or am I missing something, what happened to using your common sense ,you could see the mix off alcohol , partying ,etc in these resorts was going to spread the virus again I just don't get it why people think it wasn't going to happen




yes..it is obvious , although i doubt that many of the 99% of people most at risk were disco dancing in zante... its mostly the need a test to see if im supposed to be ill virus...

Re: You could see it a mile off

Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:03 am

pembroke allan wrote:
ion wrote:Why are people moaning and surprised about holidays being cancelled and quarantine being put in place ,watching the news people trying to blame everyone else but themselves ,is it just me or am I missing something, what happened to using your common sense ,you could see the mix off alcohol , partying ,etc in these resorts was going to spread the virus again I just don't get it why people think it wasn't going to happen



It's not only going abroad is the problem.... spike in Cardiff is the same age group 18/30 its about socializing to close without taking nessasary precautions.


Totally agree, same in Cwmbran Saturday evening a minority of idiots behaving like morons

Always the same, 90% of people can stick to the rules and help everyone stay safe then there are the 10% “shit for brains” who couldn’t care less

Re: You could see it a mile off

Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:15 am

oohahhPaulMillar wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
ion wrote:Why are people moaning and surprised about holidays being cancelled and quarantine being put in place ,watching the news people trying to blame everyone else but themselves ,is it just me or am I missing something, what happened to using your common sense ,you could see the mix off alcohol , partying ,etc in these resorts was going to spread the virus again I just don't get it why people think it wasn't going to happen



It's not only going abroad is the problem.... spike in Cardiff is the same age group 18/30 its about socializing to close without taking nessasary precautions.


Totally agree, same in Cwmbran Saturday evening a minority of idiots behaving like morons

Always the same, 90% of people can stick to the rules and help everyone stay safe then there are the 10% “shit for brains” who couldn’t care less



Now the problem is do we let 8k+ go to a football stadium thus season? Any large crowd runs the risk of contamination so causing spike in corvid! There is growing belief that need to get life back to normal and deal with corvid as it happens because at moment getting rise in positive corvid everywhere but cases of hospital admissions is falling and deaths as well, what cannot have is what's happening now open up things then 2wks later close them down and doing this for next 12 months or longer ! May as well close country down until corvid is gone completely and open everything up at once because vaccine isn't going to happen anytime soon :old:

Re: You could see it a mile off

Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:03 pm

I can see 9pm closing in the pubs and no chance of nightclubs opening in the foreseeable future here.

All the evidence has been seen in the Euro Summer hol playgrounds

Re: You could see it a mile off

Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:07 pm

ion wrote:Why are people moaning and surprised about holidays being cancelled and quarantine being put in place ,watching the news people trying to blame everyone else but themselves ,is it just me or am I missing something, what happened to using your common sense ,you could see the mix off alcohol , partying ,etc in these resorts was going to spread the virus again I just don't get it why people think it wasn't going to happen


Lots of different risks depending on where you go, Zante has Laganos where loads of young pissheads are going to go especially when Magaluf and St Antonio and most of the rest are shut, so that's a definite hotspot, more to do with the types of pubs clubs and clientele it attracts than anything else.

Most other resorts are fairly safe, but the airports and planes cause a risk, as it's impossible to distance.

I agree with some of the other comments, as soon as they become a problem shut them down and pubs in the UK, as youngsters and alcohol can't be sensible, not a criticism we were the same!

Re: You could see it a mile off

Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:49 pm

Bluebina wrote:
ion wrote:Why are people moaning and surprised about holidays being cancelled and quarantine being put in place ,watching the news people trying to blame everyone else but themselves ,is it just me or am I missing something, what happened to using your common sense ,you could see the mix off alcohol , partying ,etc in these resorts was going to spread the virus again I just don't get it why people think it wasn't going to happen


Lots of different risks depending on where you go, Zante has Laganos where loads of young pissheads are going to go especially when Magaluf and St Antonio and most of the rest are shut, so that's a definite hotspot, more to do with the types of pubs clubs and clientele it attracts than anything else.

Most other resorts are fairly safe, but the airports and planes cause a risk, as it's impossible to distance.

I agree with some of the other comments, as soon as they become a problem shut them down and pubs in the UK, as youngsters and alcohol can't be sensible, not a criticism we were the same!



yes we were the same and would be now.. and our elders were sensible and accepting ..often having lived through a war and illnesses that you dont need to be tested for to tell you your ill....go hide under the stairs in a hazmat suit if you want and leave normal people be normal..

Re: You could see it a mile off

Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:27 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
ion wrote:Why are people moaning and surprised about holidays being cancelled and quarantine being put in place ,watching the news people trying to blame everyone else but themselves ,is it just me or am I missing something, what happened to using your common sense ,you could see the mix off alcohol , partying ,etc in these resorts was going to spread the virus again I just don't get it why people think it wasn't going to happen



It's not only going abroad is the problem.... spike in Cardiff is the same age group 18/30 its about socializing to close without taking nessasary precautions.


Allan,

The Balearic Govt are also now blaming the 18-30 year olds
for the rise in the virus and that’s why we now have new strict laws in place.

Re: You could see it a mile off

Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:21 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
ion wrote:Why are people moaning and surprised about holidays being cancelled and quarantine being put in place ,watching the news people trying to blame everyone else but themselves ,is it just me or am I missing something, what happened to using your common sense ,you could see the mix off alcohol , partying ,etc in these resorts was going to spread the virus again I just don't get it why people think it wasn't going to happen



It's not only going abroad is the problem.... spike in Cardiff is the same age group 18/30 its about socializing to close without taking nessasary precautions.


Allan,

The Balearic Govt are also now blaming the 18-30 year olds
for the rise in the virus and that’s why we now have new strict laws in place.




Annis its always going to happen the more you integrate especially that age group the more likely you get more positive tests especially as having more tests... but the strange thing is more positive results but the death rate is going down all the time and hospital admissions are at same time! It seems authorities are going over board about positive tests whilst ignoring fact deaths are diminishing all the time.

Re: You could see it a mile off

Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:30 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
ion wrote:Why are people moaning and surprised about holidays being cancelled and quarantine being put in place ,watching the news people trying to blame everyone else but themselves ,is it just me or am I missing something, what happened to using your common sense ,you could see the mix off alcohol , partying ,etc in these resorts was going to spread the virus again I just don't get it why people think it wasn't going to happen



It's not only going abroad is the problem.... spike in Cardiff is the same age group 18/30 its about socializing to close without taking nessasary precautions.


Allan,

The Balearic Govt are also now blaming the 18-30 year olds
for the rise in the virus and that’s why we now have new strict laws in place.




its no real surprise that when testing gets massively increased , as it has...
A } your going to get more positive results..
B} more younger people are going to be found positive as the extra tests are now more random.. where initially the priority was elsewhere... health workers / hospital patients , care homes etc.. they know this and should be brave enough to show positive results per age group in percentages to tests taken... everything is strung out with half stories , and the press should be asking the questions people ask on here... what will happen is they come clean in 2 months..

Re: You could see it a mile off

Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:25 pm

skidemin wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
ion wrote:Why are people moaning and surprised about holidays being cancelled and quarantine being put in place ,watching the news people trying to blame everyone else but themselves ,is it just me or am I missing something, what happened to using your common sense ,you could see the mix off alcohol , partying ,etc in these resorts was going to spread the virus again I just don't get it why people think it wasn't going to happen



It's not only going abroad is the problem.... spike in Cardiff is the same age group 18/30 its about socializing to close without taking nessasary precautions.


Allan,

The Balearic Govt are also now blaming the 18-30 year olds
for the rise in the virus and that’s why we now have new strict laws in place.




its no real surprise that when testing gets massively increased , as it has...
A } your going to get more positive results..
B} more younger people are going to be found positive as the extra tests are now more random.. where initially the priority was elsewhere... health workers / hospital patients , care homes etc.. they know this and should be brave enough to show positive results per age group in percentages to tests taken... everything is strung out with half stories , and the press should be asking the questions people ask on here... what will happen is they come clean in 2 months..




One thing as puzzled me is that they ate saying 18/30 are causing higher cases of corvid but this age group to me would be the least likely to be tested! Like you say wheres the breakdown on age and testing.? But still wont alter fact that corvid going up and deaths going down regardless of age group..

Re: You could see it a mile off

Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:07 am

pembroke allan wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
ion wrote:Why are people moaning and surprised about holidays being cancelled and quarantine being put in place ,watching the news people trying to blame everyone else but themselves ,is it just me or am I missing something, what happened to using your common sense ,you could see the mix off alcohol , partying ,etc in these resorts was going to spread the virus again I just don't get it why people think it wasn't going to happen



It's not only going abroad is the problem.... spike in Cardiff is the same age group 18/30 its about socializing to close without taking nessasary precautions.


Allan,

The Balearic Govt are also now blaming the 18-30 year olds
for the rise in the virus and that’s why we now have new strict laws in place.




its no real surprise that when testing gets massively increased , as it has...
A } your going to get more positive results..
B} more younger people are going to be found positive as the extra tests are now more random.. where initially the priority was elsewhere... health workers / hospital patients , care homes etc.. they know this and should be brave enough to show positive results per age group in percentages to tests taken... everything is strung out with half stories , and the press should be asking the questions people ask on here... what will happen is they come clean in 2 months..




One thing as puzzled me is that they ate saying 18/30 are causing higher cases of corvid but this age group to me would be the least likely to be tested! Like you say wheres the breakdown on age and testing.? But still wont alter fact that corvid going up and deaths going down regardless of age group..



my point is ,that initially when tests were running at 5k the 18-30s unless ill { which lets face it was almost all of them } were not getting tested..why would they when people were screaming about nhs workers and care homes ? ... now its 300k tests daily its far more random... nobody is claiming these 18-30s are ill or turning up in hospitals mate... just that they have been tested positive..... who knows how many positives would have been found had the testing capacity been there from the getgo...
what i do know is figures should be like for like... and they are not and its been a common theme throughout this ..