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This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to admit

Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:00 pm

This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to admit that only 6% of all the 161,392 deaths recorded actually died from Covid

That's 9,683 deaths

The other 94% had 2-3 other serious illnesses & the overwhelming majority were of very advanced age

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Re: This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to ad

Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:37 pm

its not changed mate... the numbers have grown obviously but the percentages are the same everywhere and have been from almost day 1 even in China...

Re: This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to ad

Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:04 am

skidemin wrote:its not changed mate... the numbers have grown obviously but the percentages are the same everywhere and have been from almost day 1 even in China...



And yet when somebody posts these figures,as I did months ago regarding Italy, where only 12/15% of death certificates, label covid as cause of death,and these figures came from chief medical advisor,to the Italian government! ! It tended to either be ignored,or ridiculed in some way??
After seeing marches gathering pace around the world,growing in pace,and numbers,all to do with covid "repression " I believe people are waking up at last! We may never know the "real" death toll,but it's becoming clearer,that the numbers being pumped out on msm,are grossly wrong,and very misleading,and that was the intention from day one,as far as I am concerned, put the fear of God into people for long enough,and they will conform to retributive measures,more willingly ;)
Stage two,or if you like the "2nd" wave has started already,with the focus now on numbers of infections rising (a natural process with huge increase in testing ) with spain now the focus,whereas 1st time around it was Italy, but what they don't say is,in spain testing has quadrupled,so naturally more cases are going to be detected.
But for those of you who doubt the fear created in some individuals is real,I'll testify differently, from 1st hand experience!
I have three female members of my immediate family (all spousal) where they are now shitting more than they were,due to the "headlines" again!!
Terrified of a 2nd wave getting to them :cry: really scared at the tui flight story,which I think has been skewed on purpose,just for the reason of scaremongering, the majority on that flight didn't wear masks? Funnily enough, read another story of a captain threatening to turn a flight around,as 1,yes 1 passenger refused to put his mask on!! So seems a little far fetched,and mainly from one female passenger,who used the word covidiots!!
If my mum who is 80,is forced into isolation again,I 100% genuinely fear for her mental well being :sad7: and you know what? I don't blame covid,I blame the bastards who are ramping up the fear levels again!!! And this piss poor goverment
Whilst testing levels are now huge,and growing daily,of course more positive tests will appear, that's the way it is!
Turkey are doing more testing,but still hover around the 6000 mark for deaths,in a country with poor housing,and nearly 20m more people than us,are they also recording deaths in the correct manner? And only counting deaths OF covid? I lean towards the latter myself. :old: :bluebird:

Re: This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to ad

Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:17 am

People are beginning to wake up - alleluja! - though there have been plenty of sceptics on here. Beware the next stage of media project fear - '80,000 could die in second wave' OR 'Covid could get you while you're having a crap'. The CDC figures clearly show that we should have been protecting the old and vulnerable and letting healthy people catch it. Remember - 85,000 died of flu in 1968 (no lockdown) - only 46,000 have died WITH Covid this year. Now the economy is ruined, small business owners ruined, people - including children, have been scared half to death and turned against each other, thousands will die because they have not and will not receive treatment or testing for cancer etc. and the vaccination hungry pharmaceuticals led by Bill Gates are hovering in the wings like vultures. And maybe more importantly, City fans have not been able to support their team! The uncomfortable question we have to ask ourselves is who has allowed this to happen and why? Maybe the so called 'crazies' who demonstrated against authoritarian lockdown in their millions all over the world are not so crazy after all.

Re: This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to ad

Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:40 am

This video provides a satrirical look at project fear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR3NrP_GSH4

Re: This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to ad

Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:23 am

A great documentary here for those interested.

https://freedomplatform.tv/plandemic-in ... re/#popup1

Re: This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to ad

Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:06 am

JasonFowler1991 wrote:A great documentary here for those interested.

https://freedomplatform.tv/plandemic-in ... re/#popup1




the figures do not add up... but the minute you mention conspiracy theories you lose all interest of anyone beginning to realise they do not add up...

Re: This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to ad

Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:05 am

skidemin wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:A great documentary here for those interested.

https://freedomplatform.tv/plandemic-in ... re/#popup1




the figures do not add up... but the minute you mention conspiracy theories you lose all interest of anyone beginning to realise they do not add up...


Well you can choose to follow the narrative of the mainstream media and pharmaceutical lobbies. I'll stay open minded and listen to the views of everybody, from all sides of the debate.

Very good arguments made in the document, backed up by science and data, unlike the mainstream narrative which is flippant and indecisive.

Re: This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to ad

Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:19 am

JasonFowler1991 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:A great documentary here for those interested.

https://freedomplatform.tv/plandemic-in ... re/#popup1




the figures do not add up... but the minute you mention conspiracy theories you lose all interest of anyone beginning to realise they do not add up...


Well you can choose to follow the narrative of the mainstream media and pharmaceutical lobbies. I'll stay open minded and listen to the views of everybody, from all sides of the debate.

Very good arguments made in the document, backed up by science and data, unlike the mainstream narrative which is flippant and indecisive.[/quo


try reading my post again...and previous posts... the numbers do not add up and have not added up for much longer than these conspiracy nutjobs figured out they do not...

Re: This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to ad

Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:42 am

But even if those people had other issues and then caught Covid and died Covid was an accelerator on that death was it not?

Or am I missing something?

Re: This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to ad

Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:52 am

maccydee wrote:But even if those people had other issues and then caught Covid and died Covid was an accelerator on that death was it not?

Or am I missing something?


It could be the case. But currently there is no data to prove that.

Re: This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to ad

Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:57 am

maccydee wrote:But even if those people had other issues and then caught Covid and died Covid was an accelerator on that death was it not?

Or am I missing something?



my dad was terminally ill mate and the last 3 years of his life were not really worth living { i do not want that for myself or wish it on anyone tbh } eventually bed bound with zero interest in anything he caught a cold and died... yes i suppose it was an accelerant but how far do you want to take that ? without that cold he might have died at the exact same time..a day/week/month later... nobody will ever know... the cold did not kill him..

Re: This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to ad

Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:41 pm

skidemin wrote:
maccydee wrote:But even if those people had other issues and then caught Covid and died Covid was an accelerator on that death was it not?

Or am I missing something?



my dad was terminally ill mate and the last 3 years of his life were not really worth living { i do not want that for myself or wish it on anyone tbh } eventually bed bound with zero interest in anything he caught a cold and died... yes i suppose it was an accelerant but how far do you want to take that ? without that cold he might have died at the exact same time..a day/week/month later... nobody will ever know... the cold did not kill him..


Really sad to hear and sorry for your loss.

My point is there are people with underlying illnesses that simply wouldn’t kill them soon or leave them in a state like your father and they caught Covid and died.

Re: This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to ad

Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:07 pm

maccydee wrote:
skidemin wrote:
maccydee wrote:But even if those people had other issues and then caught Covid and died Covid was an accelerator on that death was it not?

Or am I missing something?



my dad was terminally ill mate and the last 3 years of his life were not really worth living { i do not want that for myself or wish it on anyone tbh } eventually bed bound with zero interest in anything he caught a cold and died... yes i suppose it was an accelerant but how far do you want to take that ? without that cold he might have died at the exact same time..a day/week/month later... nobody will ever know... the cold did not kill him..


Really sad to hear and sorry for your loss.

My point is there are people with underlying illnesses that simply wouldn’t kill them soon or leave them in a state like your father and they caught Covid and died.



are there? and to what extent exactly ? i know half a dozen people who have died since March ,non of them covid.{ the latest someone who had chest pains and was to scared of covid to seek medical help } .i know of , through friends who lost relatives about 8 with covid on DC... all old ,all ill and according to the relatives ive spoken with had short life expectancy with doubts about covid being the cause... one fella actually told me that when he queried covid on his 93 year old mothers DC he was told it was to be on the safe side... this is not the picture thats been painted by our media, yet when ive asked people { which i do because i thought my experiences were at odds with others } im hearing the same things... and when you look who has died elsewhere in the world its the same... but even if you assume the 41k are all 100% covid deaths that is 1 in 1600 of us when roughly 1 in a 100 will die anyway... a community/village/area of 1600 who would expect to lose 16 souls this year will now lose maybe 17.... maybe because the 1 could well be old , ill and at the end of their life who might have died a few months later anyway { NHS England have actually said there could well be a significant overlap ..}

i think it was an over reaction more than any conspiracy... but where things do not quite make sense invariably people look to try to make sense of it...
unfortunatly the conspiracy theories really do not help re making people less scared as they just switch off