Anyone care to enlighten me?

Anyone care to enlighten me?

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Anyone care to enlighten me?

I've been saying it for months and me amd you have clashed on facebook etc its mostly a scam and being made out to be worse than it is ,everything I've been saying about the death counts being false are coming true

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Be interesting to see the same statistics in spain and the rest of Europe for this as well

https://fullfact.org/health/flu-covid-deaths/

Please stop using memes for your covid info it only exacerbates the problems we are seeing from social media.

Theyve gone down as corvid statistics !

https://fullfact.org/health/flu-covid-deaths/

Please stop using memes for your covid info it only exacerbates the problems we are seeing from social media.

Even says they don't know so hardly a good example to use ,isnt full fact funded by geogre soros and Bill Gates too

Theyve gone down as corvid statistics !

they have

https://fullfact.org/health/flu-covid-deaths/

Please stop using memes for your covid info it only exacerbates the problems we are seeing from social media.

Even says they don't know so hardly a good example to use ,isnt full fact funded by geogre soros and Bill Gates too

Just undermined your own argument there...

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Be interesting to see the same statistics in spain and the rest of Europe for this as well

Wez, prob very similar.

On another issue
In the Balearics we have had now a couple of thousand tested positive in last 2 months, but thankfully only 7 deaths, 5 of them in nursing homes .

It does not make sense .

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Be interesting to see the same statistics in spain and the rest of Europe for this as well

Wez, prob very similar.

On another issue
In the Balearics we have had now a couple of thousand tested positive in last 2 months, but thankfully only 7 deaths, 5 of them in nursing homes .

It does not make sense .

Been saying it for months the media been using fake figures just to bash the government mate ,cant help thinking they overreacted on corona virus ,a virus 99.5 % of people will never get or die of its noy just worth wrecking our lives over

https://fullfact.org/health/flu-covid-deaths/

Please stop using memes for your covid info it only exacerbates the problems we are seeing from social media.

Even says they don't know so hardly a good example to use ,isnt full fact funded by geogre soros and Bill Gates too

Just undermined your own argument there...

Full fact could say if ots true or not

https://fullfact.org/health/flu-covid-deaths/

Please stop using memes for your covid info it only exacerbates the problems we are seeing from social media.

it a journalists opinion ..certainly not fact based

id start with trying to understand the memes if i were you..

Last edited by skidemin on Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Be interesting to see the same statistics in spain and the rest of Europe for this as well

Wez, prob very similar.

On another issue
In the Balearics we have had now a couple of thousand tested positive in last 2 months, but thankfully only 7 deaths, 5 of them in nursing homes .

It does not make sense .

Been saying it for months the media been using fake figures just to bash the government mate ,cant help thinking they overreacted on corona virus ,a virus 99.5 % of people will never get or die of its noy just worth wrecking our lives over

You,me and a few other "conspiracy theorists"

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Be interesting to see the same statistics in spain and the rest of Europe for this as well

Wez, prob very similar.

On another issue
In the Balearics we have had now a couple of thousand tested positive in last 2 months, but thankfully only 7 deaths, 5 of them in nursing homes .

It does not make sense .

Been saying it for months the media been using fake figures just to bash the government mate ,cant help thinking they overreacted on corona virus ,a virus 99.5 % of people will never get or die of its noy just worth wrecking our lives over

yes they did over react... the 5377 covid deaths that became non covid deaths along with the statement that they did not want to under estimate proves that..

Could you provide the original data please?
According to this article which used data from ons: 'Between June 19 and July 31, some 6,626 Britons were killed by flu or pneumonia'.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.u ... 18709/amp/

If you scroll right down on this article there's some more graphs which conflict with your pic
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52361519

Could you provide the original data please?

Cmon pal it’s right there in the meme! Is that not enough proof??

https://fullfact.org/health/flu-covid-deaths/

Please stop using memes for your covid info it only exacerbates the problems we are seeing from social media.

You say the meme is bad whereas 99% of people will only read the "Claim and Conclusion" section of that HalfFact page which presents as much info as a meme...

When you actually read the article below it, they actually provide evidence that they claimed in their own meme didn't exist they just went on to redefine their own parameters as what is acceptable "evidence" to them

"Fact checkers" are very twisted and dangerous, but at least you didn't use Sleezy Snopes

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Be interesting to see the same statistics in spain and the rest of Europe for this as well

Wez, prob very similar.

On another issue
In the Balearics we have had now a couple of thousand tested positive in last 2 months, but thankfully only 7 deaths, 5 of them in nursing homes .

It does not make sense .

Been saying it for months the media been using fake figures just to bash the government mate ,cant help thinking they overreacted on corona virus ,a virus 99.5 % of people will never get or die of its noy just worth wrecking our lives over

You,me and a few other "conspiracy theorists"

Coincidence Theorists are everywhere. Schools and media have done a fantastic job at stamping out Critical Thinkers.

Imagine thinking everything happening in the world around you was pure coincidence

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Perhaps flu deaths ramp up from now to New Years Eve?

1600 so far means 12-44 thousand in next few months.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Perhaps flu deaths ramp up from now to New Years Eve?

1600 so far means 12-44 thousand in next few months.

That's what i was thinking

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Perhaps flu deaths ramp up from now to New Years Eve?

1600 so far means 12-44 thousand in next few months.

That's what i was thinking

What about the flu deaths in Jan, Feb the winter months then?

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Perhaps flu deaths ramp up from now to New Years Eve?

1600 so far means 12-44 thousand in next few months.

That's what i was thinking

What about the flu deaths in Jan, Feb the winter months then?

The 32,763 from the 1st ofJanuary to the 10th of April?

Cant get some of the logic in this thread. I understand that less people would have died from flu this year as social distancing. lockdown, isolation etc would have helped with flu just as much as it did for Covid. But if 10's of thousand less have died of flu and we're still running 60 thousand plus excess deaths then it doesn't account for the Covid deaths it makes the consequences of Covid significantly worse than we think.

Forever blue has you view changed on this like mine? I know you were all for a much stricter lockdown to keep people safe. As was I before but now I feel I’ve been taken for a fool and all the people who broke lockdown and went out and continued to live they lives were in the right because there seems to be hardly any consequence from they action. I feel they scared the life out of us and lockdowns weren’t needed.

The ticking time bomb is the deaths to come from cancers to heart disease etc that has gone unchecked either because the help hasn’t been there or the doctors surgeries were shut. And many did not know where to turn or where to go. Or even they were to scared to go. These deaths will dwarf any deaths from Covid.

Now there will be a so called second wave and guess what these added extra deaths will be mostly count as Covid. And the sad fact they are related to Covid, And they would of died not of Covid but because of Covid. And deaths from Cancers and heart disease over this period will remain low. You wait and see.

Cant get some of the logic in this thread. I understand that less people would have died from flu this year as social distancing. lockdown, isolation etc would have helped with flu just as much as it did for Covid. But if 10's of thousand less have died of flu and we're still running 60 thousand plus excess deaths then it doesn't account for the Covid deaths it makes the consequences of Covid significantly worse than we think.

yep. if you assume 70 thousand people a day not occupying hospital beds that they would have pre covid were all hypochondriacs on a holiday that just did not need to be there ... and all the millions of appointments and missed diagnosis , opperations and treatments were only time wasters anyway...assume suicide rates remained the same...and people were not literally scared to death by not seeking medical help when ill.. it was predicted enough and killdown deaths will undoubtedly be on going long after the con virus and the scaremongers are long gone...

The ticking time bomb is the deaths to come from cancers to heart disease etc that has gone unchecked either because the help hasn’t been there or the doctors surgeries were shut. And many did not know where to turn or where to go. Or even they were to scared to go. These deaths will dwarf any deaths from Covid.

Now there will be a so called second wave and guess what these added extra deaths will be mostly count as Covid. And the sad fact they are related to Covid, And they would of died not of Covid but because of Covid. And deaths from Cancers and heart disease over this period will remain low. You wait and see.

yes , and it was obvious and said enough... but many are brainwashed...
we have the 5th highest deaths per million people out of over 200 countries.. yet some still not only think the lockdown worked but it should have been longer and stricter...

How many die of flu per year in Spain, Portugal, Italy etc?

Compare those figures to Covid is your best way.

What is certain is deaths from flue will drastically be lower than previous years it is already lower now! Gvmnt planning on 80k deaths over winter that is not including flue deaths.. or is it ? We shall see.