Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:37 pm
Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:40 pm
Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:47 pm
mugsy wrote:They are a complete and utter shambles!!
Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:53 pm
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:07 pm
skidemin wrote:mugsy wrote:They are a complete and utter shambles!!
and whatever method you use there will be a big chunk of students unhappy.. do you have the keep all happy answer ?
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:07 pm
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:26 pm
piledriver64 wrote:skidemin wrote:mugsy wrote:They are a complete and utter shambles!!
and whatever method you use there will be a big chunk of students unhappy.. do you have the keep all happy answer ?
Well firstly he's had since March/April to come with a workable/practical plan.
Secondly, once they had a system any well run organisation would have had a dummy run (based on info like either teacher assessments or mocks) to identify where there were inequalities in the system and then adapt it accordingly.
Thirdly, if you have a system, that you think is fair (which is what he and his team originally said) stand by it. They actually did that but because they didn't do the first two things they set themselves up to blindly defend the undefendable !!
It's pure incompetence of the highest order.
There was actually a kid who had been offered a place in Cambridge, but because the system adversely treated pupils from deprived area schools she actually received an "E"Anyone with the slightest knowledge of the Cambridge/Oxford entry system will know that they only make offers to those at the very top end of the academic scale, so the system has to be catastrophically flawed to get it that wrong (that's not the only similar example by the way).
As usual, whatever the Tories come up with it will s^%t on those at the more deprived end of society.
We all differ in our different political allegiances but defending this debacle is just not right.
Anyway, don't worry, they've got another chance to get things right now; Brexit negotiations will start in earnest at the end of September![]()
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Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:29 pm
davids wrote:Complete lame duck.
Country now entirely run by the teachers.
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:36 pm
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:42 pm
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:50 pm
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:57 pm
glas wrote:What's happening in Wales ? Also Scotland while we're talking about it.
Didn't they use the same technique?
No one mentions them, but they had the same problems.
Anyone calling for Kirsty Williams to be sacked ?
Much easier to criticise Boris?
In fact the logarithm proved to be quite accurate as teachers had over estimated the results (so as not to upset the children).
The over estimates were about 40% and the actual figures now being talked about who had their grades increase, was about 40%
This is from the Welsh Assembly's own figures.
Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:31 pm
glas wrote:What's happening in Wales ? Also Scotland while we're talking about it.
Didn't they use the same technique?
No one mentions them, but they had the same problems.
Anyone calling for Kirsty Williams to be sacked ?
Much easier to criticise Boris?
In fact the logarithm proved to be quite accurate as teachers had over estimated the results (so as not to upset the children).
The over estimates were about 40% and the actual figures now being talked about who had their grades increase, was about 40%
This is from the Welsh Assembly's own figures.
Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:45 pm
Sneggyblubird wrote:glas wrote:What's happening in Wales ? Also Scotland while we're talking about it.
Didn't they use the same technique?
No one mentions them, but they had the same problems.
Anyone calling for Kirsty Williams to be sacked ?
Much easier to criticise Boris?
In fact the logarithm proved to be quite accurate as teachers had over estimated the results (so as not to upset the children).
The over estimates were about 40% and the actual figures now being talked about who had their grades increase, was about 40%
This is from the Welsh Assembly's own figures.
Nah,can't trust any algorithm that includes your postcode as part of it's solution.It's easy to critisise Boris because he makes it so.The mans a total feckup.He;s done his bit by hoodwinking the electorate but now the Tories ought to get someone in thats actually got a scooby.
Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:59 pm
skidemin wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:glas wrote:What's happening in Wales ? Also Scotland while we're talking about it.
Didn't they use the same technique?
No one mentions them, but they had the same problems.
Anyone calling for Kirsty Williams to be sacked ?
Much easier to criticise Boris?
In fact the logarithm proved to be quite accurate as teachers had over estimated the results (so as not to upset the children).
The over estimates were about 40% and the actual figures now being talked about who had their grades increase, was about 40%
This is from the Welsh Assembly's own figures.
Nah,can't trust any algorithm that includes your postcode as part of it's solution.It's easy to critisise Boris because he makes it so.The mans a total feckup.He;s done his bit by hoodwinking the electorate but now the Tories ought to get someone in thats actually got a scooby.
its only easier if you dont give it a seconds thought.. most people do im afraid.. there is no simple obvious answer and its not political find it totally bizarre that people devoid of any actual complaints have to try to make it political... what next boris is at fault for the manchesters being knocked out of europe ?
Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:02 pm
glas wrote:What's happening in Wales ? Also Scotland while we're talking about it.
Didn't they use the same technique?
No one mentions them, but they had the same problems.
Anyone calling for Kirsty Williams to be sacked ?
Much easier to criticise Boris?
In fact the logarithm proved to be quite accurate as teachers had over estimated the results (so as not to upset the children).
The over estimates were about 40% and the actual figures now being talked about who had their grades increase, was about 40%
This is from the Welsh Assembly's own figures.
Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:34 pm
Sneggyblubird wrote:skidemin wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:glas wrote:What's happening in Wales ? Also Scotland while we're talking about it.
Didn't they use the same technique?
No one mentions them, but they had the same problems.
Anyone calling for Kirsty Williams to be sacked ?
Much easier to criticise Boris?
In fact the logarithm proved to be quite accurate as teachers had over estimated the results (so as not to upset the children).
The over estimates were about 40% and the actual figures now being talked about who had their grades increase, was about 40%
This is from the Welsh Assembly's own figures.
Nah,can't trust any algorithm that includes your postcode as part of it's solution.It's easy to critisise Boris because he makes it so.The mans a total feckup.He;s done his bit by hoodwinking the electorate but now the Tories ought to get someone in thats actually got a scooby.
its only easier if you dont give it a seconds thought.. most people do im afraid.. there is no simple obvious answer and its not political find it totally bizarre that people devoid of any actual complaints have to try to make it political... what next boris is at fault for the manchesters being knocked out of europe ?
It's when you promise the country your on top of things and you are so blatantly not.It's only just started.Lots of people who voted Tory at the last election will be on the dole this Christmas desperately trying to hang onto where they live and mark my words you know who we'll all blame because that's what we do.
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:29 pm
glas wrote:What's happening in Wales ? Also Scotland while we're talking about it.
Didn't they use the same technique?
No one mentions them, but they had the same problems.
Anyone calling for Kirsty Williams to be sacked ?
Much easier to criticise Boris?
In fact the logarithm proved to be quite accurate as teachers had over estimated the results (so as not to upset the children).
The over estimates were about 40% and the actual figures now being talked about who had their grades increase, was about 40%
This is from the Welsh Assembly's own figures.
Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:11 pm
Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:13 pm
Don Keydick wrote:glas wrote:What's happening in Wales ? Also Scotland while we're talking about it.
Didn't they use the same technique?
No one mentions them, but they had the same problems.
Anyone calling for Kirsty Williams to be sacked ?
Much easier to criticise Boris?
In fact the logarithm proved to be quite accurate as teachers had over estimated the results (so as not to upset the children).
The over estimates were about 40% and the actual figures now being talked about who had their grades increase, was about 40%
This is from the Welsh Assembly's own figures.
Agree with that. I've got no allegiance to any party, but other countries around the world had the same problems with lockdown, PPE etc, but Boris is an easy target, while Drakeford is wonderful????
Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:00 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Why is it ok to mark kids down by several levels so effecting them possibly for rest of their lives! but it's not ok to give kids higher Marks based on teacher evaluation? Using algorithms is throught with problems as it relies on someone coming up with a formular that's fair to all! But even before they started it was always going to be sided with better off areas and private schools as they have most higher grades per pupil so it proved..
Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:13 pm
Sneggyblubird wrote:Don Keydick wrote:glas wrote:What's happening in Wales ? Also Scotland while we're talking about it.
Didn't they use the same technique?
No one mentions them, but they had the same problems.
Anyone calling for Kirsty Williams to be sacked ?
Much easier to criticise Boris?
In fact the logarithm proved to be quite accurate as teachers had over estimated the results (so as not to upset the children).
The over estimates were about 40% and the actual figures now being talked about who had their grades increase, was about 40%
This is from the Welsh Assembly's own figures.
Agree with that. I've got no allegiance to any party, but other countries around the world had the same problems with lockdown, PPE etc, but Boris is an easy target, while Drakeford is wonderful????
You seem to forget this gov were warned in plenty of time but they chose to ignore the warnings and thats a fact.
Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:18 pm
Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:27 pm
blue lagoon wrote:And yet the Tories will always get in im afraid. Brexit policy trumps everything else.
Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:18 pm
Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:43 am
Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:08 am
Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:17 am
skidemin wrote:mugsy wrote:They are a complete and utter shambles!!
and whatever method you use there will be a big chunk of students unhappy.. do you have the keep all happy answer ?
Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:25 am
Forever Blue wrote:Boris Johnson that’s him.
Plus fucked up the virus from day one , slow on everything and backtracked
And now
Boris Johnson four days ago: “Let's be in no doubt about it, the exam results that we've got today are robust, they're good, they're dependable for employers.” Not a single claim in that sentence was true, was it Prime Minister?
The Govt’s 2020 coronavirus crisis results so far:
PPE - shambles.
Care homes - shambles.
Late lockdown - shambles.
Testing - shambles.
Face masks - shambles.
Quarantine - shambles.
Schools - shambles.
Apparently, Spaffer Johnson hates this photo...so whatever you do don't share it.![]()
Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:15 am