Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:02 pm
Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:20 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.
Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:28 pm
Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:54 pm
Sven wrote:Why anyone wants to go abroad (without valid reason that surely doesn't include 'I want a holiday') right now is beyond me; but, of course, I forget we have a large section of selfish people in the UK nowadays
Cancelled my own holiday in May and now the re-scheduled one for October; and I won't travel until the advice is that it is properly safe to do so
Why would I put myself, my loved one and others at risk by doing so?![]()
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For some, and Forever Blue is a good example, living abroad is a different matter and (again like Forever Blue) they will have seen the consequences both physically and economically of what another wave of the pandemic will create; and it ain't not good!
Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:35 am
Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:25 am
Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:07 am
Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:06 am
theclaw wrote:I’m going to Greece next week,touch and go I reckon to when Greece is added to the Quarantine list
Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:00 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:theclaw wrote:I’m going to Greece next week,touch and go I reckon to when Greece is added to the Quarantine list
In Rhodes at the moment mate. Beautiful here.
Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:10 pm
Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:01 pm
Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:14 pm
Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:12 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:theclaw wrote:I’m going to Greece next week,touch and go I reckon to when Greece is added to the Quarantine list
In Rhodes at the moment mate. Beautiful here.
Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:27 am
bluesince62 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:theclaw wrote:I’m going to Greece next week,touch and go I reckon to when Greece is added to the Quarantine list
In Rhodes at the moment mate. Beautiful here.
Looks like the claw won't be going then?? Another list I saw today included turkey ,Greece, Croatia, plus a few more!!
In the meantime fellow 62r enjoy it as much as you can,and hope you are home before quarantine comes into effect.
Still believe this is not just because of"cases being brought back either,as lots of people reporting no checks,form filling etc was in place when they returned home from spain![]()
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Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:45 am
bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.
It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.![]()
Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:45 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:bluesince62 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:theclaw wrote:I’m going to Greece next week,touch and go I reckon to when Greece is added to the Quarantine list
In Rhodes at the moment mate. Beautiful here.
Looks like the claw won't be going then?? Another list I saw today included turkey ,Greece, Croatia, plus a few more!!
In the meantime fellow 62r enjoy it as much as you can,and hope you are home before quarantine comes into effect.
Still believe this is not just because of"cases being brought back either,as lots of people reporting no checks,form filling etc was in place when they returned home from spain![]()
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Coming home Saturday mate so I’m guessing it’ll be fine. Stringent rules in place at airport and hotel but it’s not intrusive at all. Hope all goes well for anyone who does manage to get away.
Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:38 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.
It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.![]()
Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.
Hope that clears things up.
Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:49 pm
bluesince62 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.
It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.![]()
Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.
Hope that clears things up.
I am not thick you knowI was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??
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Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:17 pm
Bluebina wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.
It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.![]()
Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.
Hope that clears things up.
I am not thick you knowI was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??
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Spot checks then using mobile phone and card spending data apparently.
Like lockdowns they work on basis that most people comply with the rules.
Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:30 pm
skidemin wrote:Bluebina wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.
It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.![]()
Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.
Hope that clears things up.
I am not thick you knowI was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??
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Spot checks then using mobile phone and card spending data apparently.
Like lockdowns they work on basis that most people comply with the rules.
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is this some sort of attempt at a comedy sketch ?...
he explained clearly his point.... then Tony feels a need to explain his own point back to him ..to which he replies he is not thick etc. only for you to then explain how this this spot checking people who have NOT filled the forms in works![]()
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so am i likely to be spot checked having not been abroad ? or have they a list of people who have been abroad, which if they do , means those filling the forms in have been wasting their time...
Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:47 pm
bluesince62 wrote:skidemin wrote:Bluebina wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.
It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.![]()
Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.
Hope that clears things up.
I am not thick you knowI was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??
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Spot checks then using mobile phone and card spending data apparently.
Like lockdowns they work on basis that most people comply with the rules.
![]()
is this some sort of attempt at a comedy sketch ?...
he explained clearly his point.... then Tony feels a need to explain his own point back to him ..to which he replies he is not thick etc. only for you to then explain how this this spot checking people who have NOT filled the forms in works![]()
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so am i likely to be spot checked having not been abroad ? or have they a list of people who have been abroad, which if they do , means those filling the forms in have been wasting their time...
Thank youI was beginning to wonder if I was in a monty python sketch
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Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:59 am
bluesince62 wrote:I am not thick you knowI was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??
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Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:46 am
Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:57 am
RV Casual wrote:For those on here who had holidays cancelled is anyone else still waiting on a refund? Coming up to 2 months now for me
Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:33 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:bluesince62 wrote:I am not thick you knowI was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??
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There is no need for form filling, temperature and airport checks. There are digital records and that would be enough to show if someone had returned from Spain and were required to quarantine for 14 days. Not sure what good a temperature test would do? It's not like you could send someone back to Spain if their temperature was above 37.5C![]()
Even if someone was found to have a raised temperature they would be advised to seek a COVID-19 test to confirm.
It would be impossible to keep track of all returnees from Spain and that is not the aim of the track and trace system
If someone returning from Spain developed symptoms they can have a free COVID-19 test. If that comes back positive then they would give all details of who they had recently come into contact with. Track/trace would then contact all those on the plane for example by using the travel data from the flight companies.
I wouldn't call you thick but I would say you haven't thought this through properly.
Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:42 pm
skidemin wrote:Bluebina wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.
It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.![]()
Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.
Hope that clears things up.
I am not thick you knowI was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??
![]()
Spot checks then using mobile phone and card spending data apparently.
Like lockdowns they work on basis that most people comply with the rules.
![]()
is this some sort of attempt at a comedy sketch ?...
he explained clearly his point.... then Tony feels a need to explain his own point back to him ..to which he replies he is not thick etc. only for you to then explain how this this spot checking people who have NOT filled the forms in works![]()
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so am i likely to be spot checked having not been abroad ? or have they a list of people who have been abroad, which if they do , means those filling the forms in have been wasting their time...
Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:20 pm
Bluebina wrote:
I have to be honest I didn't read half of the bickering and just replied to how can they enforce the quarantines, and thats by spot checks, they don't need forms just passport data.
In reality they haven't got the resources but will get calls from people saying Jack B has just come back from Spain and is going to work and to the pub every night.
They rely on the vast majority of people following the rules.
Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:20 pm
Bluebina wrote:skidemin wrote:Bluebina wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.
It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.![]()
Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.
Hope that clears things up.
I am not thick you knowI was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??
![]()
Spot checks then using mobile phone and card spending data apparently.
Like lockdowns they work on basis that most people comply with the rules.
![]()
is this some sort of attempt at a comedy sketch ?...
he explained clearly his point.... then Tony feels a need to explain his own point back to him ..to which he replies he is not thick etc. only for you to then explain how this this spot checking people who have NOT filled the forms in works![]()
![]()
so am i likely to be spot checked having not been abroad ? or have they a list of people who have been abroad, which if they do , means those filling the forms in have been wasting their time...
I have to be honest I didn't read half of the bickering and just replied to how can they enforce the quarantines, and thats by spot checks, they don't need forms just passport data.
In reality they haven't got the resources but will get calls from people saying Jack B has just come back from Spain and is going to work and to the pub every night.
They rely on the vast majority of people following the rules.
Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:31 pm
bluesince62 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:theclaw wrote:I’m going to Greece next week,touch and go I reckon to when Greece is added to the Quarantine list
In Rhodes at the moment mate. Beautiful here.
Looks like the claw won't be going then?? Another list I saw today included turkey ,Greece, Croatia, plus a few more!!
In the meantime fellow 62r enjoy it as much as you can,and hope you are home before quarantine comes into effect.
Still believe this is not just because of"cases being brought back either,as lots of people reporting no checks,form filling etc was in place when they returned home from spain![]()
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Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:08 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Bluebina wrote:
I have to be honest I didn't read half of the bickering and just replied to how can they enforce the quarantines, and thats by spot checks, they don't need forms just passport data.
In reality they haven't got the resources but will get calls from people saying Jack B has just come back from Spain and is going to work and to the pub every night.
They rely on the vast majority of people following the rules.
You are right enforcing the quarantine is a challenge. I have heard of spot checks but they must be of a very low % of those who are quarantining. I believe that the local Jack who dobs on his neighbour is more or less ignored by the authorities as there are a number exceptions which allow someone who is quarantining to leave their home e.g. to buy food, obtain medicines get COVID-19 tested.
What you don't want is to be named by another person as a contact during the quarantine period as that might prove difficult to explain.
But more likely as you said the Government really hopes that we all do the right thing and follow the guidelines.