Turkey

Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.

Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.

It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.

Why anyone wants to go abroad (without valid reason that surely doesn't include 'I want a holiday') right now is beyond me; but, of course, I forget we have a large section of selfish people in the UK nowadays

Cancelled my own holiday in May and now the re-scheduled one for October; and I won't travel until the advice is that it is properly safe to do so

Why would I put myself, my loved one and others at risk by doing so?

For some, and Forever Blue is a good example, living abroad is a different matter and (again like Forever Blue) they will have seen the consequences both physically and economically of what another wave of the pandemic will create; and it ain't not good!

Why anyone wants to go abroad (without valid reason that surely doesn't include 'I want a holiday') right now is beyond me; but, of course, I forget we have a large section of selfish people in the UK nowadays

Cancelled my own holiday in May and now the re-scheduled one for October; and I won't travel until the advice is that it is properly safe to do so

Why would I put myself, my loved one and others at risk by doing so?

For some, and Forever Blue is a good example, living abroad is a different matter and (again like Forever Blue) they will have seen the consequences both physically and economically of what another wave of the pandemic will create; and it ain't not good!

In response Sven, I part own the villa I mentioned with my brother and sister, and my 1st choice was to hire a camper and do the Welsh coast,as it's something me and the mrs want to do,ended up losing deposit on camper,due to Drakeford keeping the 5 mile rule in place!! Was not on our agenda to go abroad at all this year,but after some serious consideration, decided we would go for a week,and we would be following guidance such as mask etc but then could relax around the pool,and paint the living room there,not leaving for anything,as one shop would be plenty,thus staying more risk free,than going to the supermarket here.it's pretty obvious though,that another wave like the 1st would damage the economy no doubt,and badly,the trouble is,who decides when it's safe or not to travel? And lastly,we are certainly not selfish mate (my wife and myself)I have been delivering meds to isolated patients since roughly week two of lockdown, as I have the time spare to do so twice weekly.and we are all seeing the effects happening daily here,never mind abroad due to this pandemic,with daily announcements on job loses,recession etc,and I realise that where Annis lives,a lot of businesses have closedone, and they are more reliant on tourism than the uk for instance,but that's the story the world over at present. and in all honesty Sven, they are now saying it is airborne, so every time we go outdoors,we are putting ourselves,and others at risk,unless we all wear full ppe 3 and above protective equipment at all times when going out,as it can land anywhere on you in that case.

I’m going to Greece next week,touch and go I reckon to when Greece is added to the Quarantine list

Personally I think that any thought of a holiday abroad this year should be put on the back burner

A lot of people like myself cannot afford to go abroad at this time due to work shortage but back on track now as self employed
and like the missus who lost her job with laura ashleys after 45 years so not only for health reasons due to covid but also prioritising your finances due to the hit to the economy.

I’m going to Greece next week,touch and go I reckon to when Greece is added to the Quarantine list

In Rhodes at the moment mate. Beautiful here.

I’m going to Greece next week,touch and go I reckon to when Greece is added to the Quarantine list

In Rhodes at the moment mate. Beautiful here.

Glad to hear it

Sadly, we've had to put our holidays abroad on hold for this year at least. We were looking to find a week in September and possibly end of October but it's no longer an option. Just got to sit it out and hopefully find an alternative in UK.

I normally go abroad 3 times a year March this year was cancelled ,June/July couldn’t and didn’t want to, started to look for the end of September for my birthday but that is out.
Don’t think I will be going anywhere until March next year I am not even looking for a holiday in Britain.

Hat to cancel weekend in Seville, 10 days in Dordogne and Euro game in Rome . So far !
Now trying to decide whether to try and go away for 7-10 days in U.K in September By then we will see if there is an increase in numbers from those returning from Europe and what restrictions are in place to get schools open

I’m going to Greece next week,touch and go I reckon to when Greece is added to the Quarantine list

In Rhodes at the moment mate. Beautiful here.

Looks like the claw won't be going then?? Another list I saw today included turkey ,Greece, Croatia, plus a few more!!
In the meantime fellow 62r enjoy it as much as you can,and hope you are home before quarantine comes into effect.
Still believe this is not just because of"cases being brought back either,as lots of people reporting no checks,form filling etc was in place when they returned home from spain

I’m going to Greece next week,touch and go I reckon to when Greece is added to the Quarantine list

In Rhodes at the moment mate. Beautiful here.

Looks like the claw won't be going then?? Another list I saw today included turkey ,Greece, Croatia, plus a few more!!
In the meantime fellow 62r enjoy it as much as you can,and hope you are home before quarantine comes into effect.
Still believe this is not just because of"cases being brought back either,as lots of people reporting no checks,form filling etc was in place when they returned home from spain

Coming home Saturday mate so I’m guessing it’ll be fine. Stringent rules in place at airport and hotel but it’s not intrusive at all. Hope all goes well for anyone who does manage to get away.

Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.

It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.

Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.

Hope that clears things up.

I’m going to Greece next week,touch and go I reckon to when Greece is added to the Quarantine list

In Rhodes at the moment mate. Beautiful here.

Looks like the claw won't be going then?? Another list I saw today included turkey ,Greece, Croatia, plus a few more!!
In the meantime fellow 62r enjoy it as much as you can,and hope you are home before quarantine comes into effect.
Still believe this is not just because of"cases being brought back either,as lots of people reporting no checks,form filling etc was in place when they returned home from spain

Coming home Saturday mate so I’m guessing it’ll be fine. Stringent rules in place at airport and hotel but it’s not intrusive at all. Hope all goes well for anyone who does manage to get away.

Have a good time, I'm due out next week after switching from Ibiza, it's not looking good!

Still, it's not to spoil peoples fun, it's done to try and keep the virus spreading in the UK, if I can't go that's fine, I'll book a few UK holidays and go later or next year

Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.

It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.

Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.

Hope that clears things up.

I am not thick you know I was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??

Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.

It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.

Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.

Hope that clears things up.

I am not thick you know I was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??

Spot checks then using mobile phone and card spending data apparently.

Like lockdowns they work on basis that most people comply with the rules.

Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.

It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.

Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.

Hope that clears things up.

I am not thick you know I was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??

Spot checks then using mobile phone and card spending data apparently.

Like lockdowns they work on basis that most people comply with the rules.

is this some sort of attempt at a comedy sketch ?...
he explained clearly his point.... then Tony feels a need to explain his own point back to him ..to which he replies he is not thick etc. only for you to then explain how this this spot checking people who have NOT filled the forms in works
so am i likely to be spot checked having not been abroad ? or have they a list of people who have been abroad, which if they do , means those filling the forms in have been wasting their time...

Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.

It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.

Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.

Hope that clears things up.

I am not thick you know I was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??

Spot checks then using mobile phone and card spending data apparently.

Like lockdowns they work on basis that most people comply with the rules.

is this some sort of attempt at a comedy sketch ?...
he explained clearly his point.... then Tony feels a need to explain his own point back to him ..to which he replies he is not thick etc. only for you to then explain how this this spot checking people who have NOT filled the forms in works
so am i likely to be spot checked having not been abroad ? or have they a list of people who have been abroad, which if they do , means those filling the forms in have been wasting their time...

Thank you I was beginning to wonder if I was in a monty python sketch

Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.

It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.

Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.

Hope that clears things up.

I am not thick you know I was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??

Spot checks then using mobile phone and card spending data apparently.

Like lockdowns they work on basis that most people comply with the rules.

is this some sort of attempt at a comedy sketch ?...
he explained clearly his point.... then Tony feels a need to explain his own point back to him ..to which he replies he is not thick etc. only for you to then explain how this this spot checking people who have NOT filled the forms in works
so am i likely to be spot checked having not been abroad ? or have they a list of people who have been abroad, which if they do , means those filling the forms in have been wasting their time...

Thank you I was beginning to wonder if I was in a monty python sketch

well i understood what you said..
as for this mobile phone checks and spending data... have they really got these powers ?

I am not thick you know I was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??

There is no need for form filling, temperature and airport checks. There are digital records and that would be enough to show if someone had returned from Spain and were required to quarantine for 14 days. Not sure what good a temperature test would do? It's not like you could send someone back to Spain if their temperature was above 37.5C Even if someone was found to have a raised temperature they would be advised to seek a COVID-19 test to confirm.

It would be impossible to keep track of all returnees from Spain and that is not the aim of the track and trace system
If someone returning from Spain developed symptoms they can have a free COVID-19 test. If that comes back positive then they would give all details of who they had recently come into contact with. Track/trace would then contact all those on the plane for example by using the travel data from the flight companies.

I wouldn't call you thick but I would say you haven't thought this through properly.

For those on here who had holidays cancelled is anyone else still waiting on a refund? Coming up to 2 months now for me

For those on here who had holidays cancelled is anyone else still waiting on a refund? Coming up to 2 months now for me

im still waiting for my flights to Italy for the Euros to be refunded.. i booked for 7 of us just over a grand...

and know quite a few others who booked to go with different carriers not refunded yet either..

I am not thick you know I was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??

There is no need for form filling, temperature and airport checks. There are digital records and that would be enough to show if someone had returned from Spain and were required to quarantine for 14 days. Not sure what good a temperature test would do? It's not like you could send someone back to Spain if their temperature was above 37.5C Even if someone was found to have a raised temperature they would be advised to seek a COVID-19 test to confirm.

It would be impossible to keep track of all returnees from Spain and that is not the aim of the track and trace system
If someone returning from Spain developed symptoms they can have a free COVID-19 test. If that comes back positive then they would give all details of who they had recently come into contact with. Track/trace would then contact all those on the plane for example by using the travel data from the flight companies.

I wouldn't call you thick but I would say you haven't thought this through properly.

He must be a bit thick if he thinks the uk only know if he’s been abroad if he fills a form in?

Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.

It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.

Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.

Hope that clears things up.

I am not thick you know I was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??

Spot checks then using mobile phone and card spending data apparently.

Like lockdowns they work on basis that most people comply with the rules.

is this some sort of attempt at a comedy sketch ?...
he explained clearly his point.... then Tony feels a need to explain his own point back to him ..to which he replies he is not thick etc. only for you to then explain how this this spot checking people who have NOT filled the forms in works
so am i likely to be spot checked having not been abroad ? or have they a list of people who have been abroad, which if they do , means those filling the forms in have been wasting their time...

I have to be honest I didn't read half of the bickering and just replied to how can they enforce the quarantines, and thats by spot checks, they don't need forms just passport data.

In reality they haven't got the resources but will get calls from people saying Jack B has just come back from Spain and is going to work and to the pub every night.

They rely on the vast majority of people following the rules.

I have to be honest I didn't read half of the bickering and just replied to how can they enforce the quarantines, and thats by spot checks, they don't need forms just passport data.

In reality they haven't got the resources but will get calls from people saying Jack B has just come back from Spain and is going to work and to the pub every night.

They rely on the vast majority of people following the rules.

You are right enforcing the quarantine is a challenge. I have heard of spot checks but they must be of a very low % of those who are quarantining. I believe that the local Jack who dobs on his neighbour is more or less ignored by the authorities as there are a number exceptions which allow someone who is quarantining to leave their home e.g. to buy food, obtain medicines get COVID-19 tested.

What you don't want is to be named by another person as a contact during the quarantine period as that might prove difficult to explain.

But more likely as you said the Government really hopes that we all do the right thing and follow the guidelines.

Turkey may be the latest country popular with UK tourists to be put on the government's quarantine list.

It's a f@cking farce,under 6,000 deaths there to date? I said a good while ago if you remember Annis, that they are trying to force people into stay cation, to boost the economy, not because of the virus.
I was off to Spain the 1st week of September, looks like that's been f@cked again,thanks boris you tw@t!
Between him and drippy Drakeford, that's twice they have pissed on my chips now.
Why not just come out and say what they want,no brits to go abroad? But we know they would still allow unchecked travel inward bound!! I read yesterday,people returning from Malaga etc,came back home,yet no checks at the airports,no form to fill,not even temperature checks! Why say two weeks quarantine if returning from Spain, but not follow it through??? Perhaps all these countries should say 2 weeks quarantine for any of their citizens visit the uk,see how boris likes it,when tourists stop coming here.

Anyone returning from Spain or other countries on the naughty list must self isolate for 14 days. If they are caught breaking lock down during that time without a good reason there is a potential fine of £1,000. So 'following through' as you put it would only happen if returnees were caught breaking their isolation after arriving at their home. Making their way from the airport to their home is obviously not breaking any rules because the isolation begins once they arrive home.

Hope that clears things up.

I am not thick you know I was referring to those people who had travelled to spain ,when no quarantine rule on return was in place,so weren't required to fill forms out on leaving,but had returned after the government changed the state of play,yet still they returned and no checks,no form filling ,so how are the government going to trace these people??

Spot checks then using mobile phone and card spending data apparently.

Like lockdowns they work on basis that most people comply with the rules.

is this some sort of attempt at a comedy sketch ?...
he explained clearly his point.... then Tony feels a need to explain his own point back to him ..to which he replies he is not thick etc. only for you to then explain how this this spot checking people who have NOT filled the forms in works
so am i likely to be spot checked having not been abroad ? or have they a list of people who have been abroad, which if they do , means those filling the forms in have been wasting their time...

I have to be honest I didn't read half of the bickering and just replied to how can they enforce the quarantines, and thats by spot checks, they don't need forms just passport data.

In reality they haven't got the resources but will get calls from people saying Jack B has just come back from Spain and is going to work and to the pub every night.

They rely on the vast majority of people following the rules.

Who was bickering? I do realise biometric passport would show you have been to spain,but what if someone who had stayed in the same hotel/complex as yourself upon returning to let's say Denmark, tests positive for the virus,how do they track and trace you,as I'm pretty sure passport will not state where you have stayed whilst in spain? And out of curiosity,old you self isolate for 14 days,if you have no symtoms,and more importantly have not booked another two weeks off,as you didn't need to upon leaving,as the rules were changed whilst away? I guess people will ignore the 14 day rule,as cannot afford two more weeks unpaid leave,and my guess is a minority will do as asked,and quarantine themselves,due to them very issues I have mentioned.
If you get unwell whilst in spain,you are put into a "quarantine hotel" so assumed some more robust system would be in place for those returning from places that have been removed from safe list? I guess bluebirdoct62 would be able to answer that very question,as he is away,in a country that may well be taken of the list whilst he is there,not sure of his work situation though.but thanks for your a"bit thick" comment,as I believe we are all a bit thick in certain areas of our lives eh?

I’m going to Greece next week,touch and go I reckon to when Greece is added to the Quarantine list

In Rhodes at the moment mate. Beautiful here.

Looks like the claw won't be going then?? Another list I saw today included turkey ,Greece, Croatia, plus a few more!!
In the meantime fellow 62r enjoy it as much as you can,and hope you are home before quarantine comes into effect.
Still believe this is not just because of"cases being brought back either,as lots of people reporting no checks,form filling etc was in place when they returned home from spain

Looks like the claw just arrived in Greece

I have to be honest I didn't read half of the bickering and just replied to how can they enforce the quarantines, and thats by spot checks, they don't need forms just passport data.

In reality they haven't got the resources but will get calls from people saying Jack B has just come back from Spain and is going to work and to the pub every night.

They rely on the vast majority of people following the rules.

You are right enforcing the quarantine is a challenge. I have heard of spot checks but they must be of a very low % of those who are quarantining. I believe that the local Jack who dobs on his neighbour is more or less ignored by the authorities as there are a number exceptions which allow someone who is quarantining to leave their home e.g. to buy food, obtain medicines get COVID-19 tested.

What you don't want is to be named by another person as a contact during the quarantine period as that might prove difficult to explain.

But more likely as you said the Government really hopes that we all do the right thing and follow the guidelines.

Your 100% correct Tony they could even tell what time you boarded on both the outward and inward flights.it Is also a fact that since the outset the Government has said they did not want to impose Draconian rules preferring to rely on people's common sense and good will. Unfortunately that's difficult for some. Not because they are thick but more likely inconsiderate.