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UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:47 pm

Awful explosion. Terrible loss of life.

We give money.

Why?

We are NOT the World's police force NOR the World's bankers.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:50 pm

Valley Blue wrote:Awful explosion. Terrible loss of life.

We give money.

Why?

We are NOT the World's police force NOR the World's bankers.



Totally agree, plus half the money will go to corrupt leaders :roll:

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:55 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Valley Blue wrote:Awful explosion. Terrible loss of life.

We give money.

Why?

We are NOT the World's police force NOR the World's bankers.



Totally agree, plus half the money will go to corrupt leaders :roll:



Money probably already transferred. Idiotic

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:00 am

300,000 homeless and the city of Beirut supposedly only has about a month worth of supplies with no port to bring new supplies in. Without aid Lebanon will see a mass exodus of it’s population as they have to decide whether to leave as refugees or potentially starve on the streets.
Turkey will give those refugees a free pass into Europe unchecked where they will then enter the UK’s and other countries immigration system, us giving aid allows the people of Lebanon the chance to rebuild and continue living in their home country.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:03 am

I've no issue giving aid, let's hope we're never in the situation that we require help.

What I do have a problem with is the fact that there's enough money in the world to solve all problems, hunger, homelessness etc but greed makes that impossible.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:06 am

Financially we are in a perilous situation. Rishi Sunak splashing money around like its going out of fashion.

The economy on the bones of its @rse.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:47 am

Valley Blue wrote:Financially we are in a perilous situation. Rishi Sunak splashing money around like its going out of fashion.

The economy on the bones of its @rse.

Trouble is mate, if Sunak wasn’t helping the uk people affected by CV then that would also be wrong in most people’s eyes. It’s all opinions but I personally think he’s doing a great job and has the potential to become our next pm.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:40 am

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Valley Blue wrote:Financially we are in a perilous situation. Rishi Sunak splashing money around like its going out of fashion.

The economy on the bones of its @rse.

Trouble is mate, if Sunak wasn’t helping the uk people affected by CV then that would also be wrong in most people’s eyes. It’s all opinions but I personally think he’s doing a great job and has the potential to become our next pm.



He does indeed have the potential to become PM.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:56 pm

Valley Blue wrote:Financially we are in a perilous situation. Rishi Sunak splashing money around like its going out of fashion.

The economy on the bones of its @rse.



And that's the fault of the Lebanese how?? It's a big disaster ffs! And how very human of you to be so understanding of the plight of the 300,000 instant homeless created overnight there! WTF is 5 mill in the grand scheme of things? Do you believe we should keep it,as the economy is as you put it on the bones of its arse? It's 5m, not 5 billion.we have been defrauded on a much larger scale,by furlough fraud here !! God forbid something similar happening closer to home! Sorry,can't help,we are skint from covid!! :roll: :old: :bluebird:

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:59 am

bluesince62 wrote:
Valley Blue wrote:Financially we are in a perilous situation. Rishi Sunak splashing money around like its going out of fashion.

The economy on the bones of its @rse.



And that's the fault of the Lebanese how?? It's a big disaster ffs! And how very human of you to be so understanding of the plight of the 300,000 instant homeless created overnight there! WTF is 5 mill in the grand scheme of things? Do you believe we should keep it,as the economy is as you put it on the bones of its arse? It's 5m, not 5 billion.we have been defrauded on a much larger scale,by furlough fraud here !! God forbid something similar happening closer to home! Sorry,can't help,we are skint from covid!! :roll: :old: :bluebird:


Exactly my view. Human decency seems to have gone out of the window and the "us and them" politics are raging stronger than ever.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:59 am

The complete lack of empathy from some of the people on here is sickening, 85% of their grain stores were destroyed in that blast they need help.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:32 am

Cant they can dock somewhere else and transfer goods in by road and rail surely ?
how much are other countries giving ?
I fear some non genuine people there will use this as an excuse to move country, whilst the truely affected people of Beirut will stay and rebuild.

the problem was caused because Russia or rather a russian ship left the chemicals there and the Lebanese just left them in a warehouse, then decided to put a fireworks factory next door - and then get the welders in to do some work. No H&S there it seems, tragic really, complete F up from start to finish

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:39 am

I think the bigger issue for the Middle East is that it is the richest region in the World with some of the highest poverty rates. The UK should donate for this reason. It just shouldnt need to.
The lack of empathy comes from within the Arab World. Other issue is, Hezbollah sit in the Cabinet.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:22 am

The people who are cross at this 'waste of money' will probably faint when they hear about this corruption:
https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/statu ... 77600?s=19

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:49 am

rumpo kid wrote:I think the bigger issue for the Middle East is that it is the richest region in the World with some of the highest poverty rates. The UK should donate for this reason. It just shouldnt need to.
The lack of empathy comes from within the Arab World. Other issue is, Hezbollah sit in the Cabinet.

Here's a list of what countries are doing to help which include Arab countries
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/08/ ... donations/

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:23 am

So the UK gives more than anyone else.
The EU activates a program, what is that? Basically it gives nothing, inline with it's continuing practice of not helping anyone in trouble, eg: Italy during the corona virus pandemic.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:10 pm

Bluebird1990 wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:I think the bigger issue for the Middle East is that it is the richest region in the World with some of the highest poverty rates. The UK should donate for this reason. It just shouldnt need to.
The lack of empathy comes from within the Arab World. Other issue is, Hezbollah sit in the Cabinet.

Here's a list of what countries are doing to help which include Arab countries
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/08/ ... donations/
:occasion5:

I’m talking about the bigger picture..not after a disaster.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:31 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:The people who are cross at this 'waste of money' will probably faint when they hear about this corruption:
https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/statu ... 77600?s=19



Isn't this the dogooder who beat a fox to death with a baseball bat?

But I agree if the civil service has given contracts to individuals without checking quality etc then action should be taken. This is something that happens regularly here and should be treated as fraud and people sacked, as it is taxpayers money.
Let's start with the MOD.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:10 pm

Nothing to do with Lebanon then... rather just another of Josh’cut and paste postings on the back of lacking an opinion.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:21 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
Valley Blue wrote:Financially we are in a perilous situation. Rishi Sunak splashing money around like its going out of fashion.

The economy on the bones of its @rse.



And that's the fault of the Lebanese how?? It's a big disaster ffs! And how very human of you to be so understanding of the plight of the 300,000 instant homeless created overnight there! WTF is 5 mill in the grand scheme of things? Do you believe we should keep it,as the economy is as you put it on the bones of its arse? It's 5m, not 5 billion.we have been defrauded on a much larger scale,by furlough fraud here !! God forbid something similar happening closer to home! Sorry,can't help,we are skint from covid!! :roll: :old: :bluebird:



Donate to help dude

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:23 pm

They were storing explosive materials in an area where people lived and worked for 6 years Sorry mate but you and your bleeding heart pussies
need to get a grip .

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:37 pm

rumpo kid wrote:Nothing to do with Lebanon then... rather just another of Josh’cut and paste postings on the back of lacking an opinion.

It was called putting the money into perspective.
I think that the two 'political' threads on here highlight a lot of what's wrong with this country. Are there threads on the fact that the government is giving your money to their chums instead of to companies who can make things to save peoples lives? No, they're ignoring corruption from our government time and time again and instead have focused on getting angry at £5 million to a disaster and an average of 17 people a day coming to this country. Both which would cost you under a penny in taxes probably. Food banks are being used more than ever, a footballer had to get the government to give people meals, and some people think the problem lies with people who have had to leave everything behind to try and make a better life for themselves. No 1st world country should have people starving, let alone a party given a decade to stop it.
How many people on here would try and get their families to a safe country if our country was bombed to rubble and invaded? How many peoples descendants are from other countries? You are not automatically better than someone because your parents decided to live on this plot of land than another. That is what a number of people in the world need to learn. How's that for a lack of opinion.

Oh, and I've never been to Lebanon but I did sign a good player from there on fm a few years back (in case rumpo boy says this comment is not relevant)

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:53 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Valley Blue wrote:Awful explosion. Terrible loss of life.

We give money.

Why?

We are NOT the World's police force NOR the World's bankers.



Totally agree, plus half the money will go to corrupt leaders :roll:



All aid should be directly used by aid organisations not given to corrupt governments? Why do you think governments especially in Africa wont allow aid organisations in the country or to organise distribution because they syphon off the sid and money... Lebanese people want this government out because they know it is corrupt..

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:03 pm

Yes typical of the unhealthy little Englander views we get on here every day. Boris gives peerages to over 30 cronies costing us ££££ for next 50 years and COVID contracts worth Millions to his mates and nobody says a word.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:05 pm

Take down the Union Jack
It clashes with the sunset
And put it in the attic with the emperors old clothes
When did it fall apart?
Sometime in the eighties
When the great and the good gave way
To the greedy and the mean

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:31 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Nothing to do with Lebanon then... rather just another of Josh’cut and paste postings on the back of lacking an opinion.

It was called putting the money into perspective.
I think that the two 'political' threads on here highlight a lot of what's wrong with this country. Are there threads on the fact that the government is giving your money to their chums instead of to companies who can make things to save peoples lives? No, they're ignoring corruption from our government time and time again and instead have focused on getting angry at £5 million to a disaster and an average of 17 people a day coming to this country. Both which would cost you under a penny in taxes probably. Food banks are being used more than ever, a footballer had to get the government to give people meals, and some people think the problem lies with people who have had to leave everything behind to try and make a better life for themselves. No 1st world country should have people starving, let alone a party given a decade to stop it.
How many people on here would try and get their families to a safe country if our country was bombed to rubble and invaded? How many peoples descendants are from other countries? You are not automatically better than someone because your parents decided to live on this plot of land than another. That is what a number of people in the world need to learn. How's that for a lack of opinion.

Oh, and I've never been to Lebanon but I did sign a good player from there on fm a few years back (in case rumpo boy says this comment is not relevant)


For giving jobs to mates, look no further than the Lords..and refugees are to claim in the first safe country. But you know that.
The rest is a fancy, and will stick to thread.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:18 pm

Valley Blue wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
Valley Blue wrote:Financially we are in a perilous situation. Rishi Sunak splashing money around like its going out of fashion.

The economy on the bones of its @rse.



And that's the fault of the Lebanese how?? It's a big disaster ffs! And how very human of you to be so understanding of the plight of the 300,000 instant homeless created overnight there! WTF is 5 mill in the grand scheme of things? Do you believe we should keep it,as the economy is as you put it on the bones of its arse? It's 5m, not 5 billion.we have been defrauded on a much larger scale,by furlough fraud here !! God forbid something similar happening closer to home! Sorry,can't help,we are skint from covid!! :roll: :old: :bluebird:



Donate to help dude



No offence, you don't know me,or what contributions to charites are either ;) I've done my bit don't you fret about that,iincluding volunteering to deliver meds to old and isolated fellow citizens during covid lockdown ,you? There's still more than 5m won most weeks on the lottery ffs. :old: :bluebird:

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:16 am

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Nothing to do with Lebanon then... rather just another of Josh’cut and paste postings on the back of lacking an opinion.

It was called putting the money into perspective.
I think that the two 'political' threads on here highlight a lot of what's wrong with this country. Are there threads on the fact that the government is giving your money to their chums instead of to companies who can make things to save peoples lives? No, they're ignoring corruption from our government time and time again and instead have focused on getting angry at £5 million to a disaster and an average of 17 people a day coming to this country. Both which would cost you under a penny in taxes probably. Food banks are being used more than ever, a footballer had to get the government to give people meals, and some people think the problem lies with people who have had to leave everything behind to try and make a better life for themselves. No 1st world country should have people starving, let alone a party given a decade to stop it.
How many people on here would try and get their families to a safe country if our country was bombed to rubble and invaded? How many peoples descendants are from other countries? You are not automatically better than someone because your parents decided to live on this plot of land than another. That is what a number of people in the world need to learn. How's that for a lack of opinion.

Oh, and I've never been to Lebanon but I did sign a good player from there on fm a few years back (in case rumpo boy says this comment is not relevant)



you are aware there are a number of countries in between Lebanon and here ? i think they are safe..? ill await fems verdict on that..
and please stop using the word starving because 9 million people a year actually die of starvation and they dont live in the UK.... people whose 3 top priorities are food ,shelter and water.. not flat screens, trainers and i phones...

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:52 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Valley Blue wrote:Awful explosion. Terrible loss of life.

We give money.

Why?

We are NOT the World's police force NOR the World's bankers.



Totally agree, plus half the money will go to corrupt leaders :roll:



All aid should be directly used by aid organisations not given to corrupt governments? Why do you think governments especially in Africa wont allow aid organisations in the country or to organise distribution because they syphon off the sid and money... Lebanese people want this government out because they know it is corrupt..

Aid simply hasn’t worked for Africa and half of the money sent leaves the country for dodgy bank accounts in Switzerland or Grand Cayman. Aid simply keeps despotic crackpots in power and has done since the 1950s. Lebanon is obviously different as it’s disaster relief but no way should we be sending money, it should be temporary accommodation and food supplies.

Re: UK 5 mill to Lebanon

Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:35 am

Here is a very interesting article - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/07/worl ... -ship.html

Hmmmm !