This may be unpopular but ..

I believe the only way this squad has a chance of beating Fulham on Thursday is to go back to a Warnock Ball game plan.Get the ball in their half,get in the Fulham’s players faces and don’t let them settle and play.
A Little change of personal With maybe Pato,Ward and Vaulks coming in.

Not pretty,a little step backwards but just might cause an upset,play like tonite and 2-0 again.

I agree. Back to 3 in the middle and pato up top. A lot of energy, try and force some errors and get the ball in the box.

Same team that started Vs Leeds with NML instead of Adomah.

I would go 3 at the back and just attack them until we score. Show the element of suprise. Nothing to lose and a early goal would change the tie.

Also bin Glatzel off and play a front three of our wingers and just run at them . They are to strong at the back for him

I would go 3 at the back and just attack them until we score. Show the element of suprise. Nothing to lose and a early goal would change the tie.

Also bin Glatzel off and play a front three of our wingers and just run at them . They are to strong at the back for him

3 at the back could work actually. They attack so slowly.

Just need to overload the box. Their weakness is their defence. Definitely got mistakes in them.

I would go 3 at the back and just attack them until we score. Show the element of suprise. Nothing to lose and a early goal would change the tie.

Also bin Glatzel off and play a front three of our wingers and just run at them . They are to strong at the back for him

3 at the back could work actually. They attack so slowly.

Just need to overload the box. Their weakness is their defence. Definitely got mistakes in them.

Need to do something they won't expect as they look too comfortable containing us . Get back into the game then settle down and play football.

The worry is they will pass us to death keeping it in there own half all game

I would go 3 at the back and just attack them until we score. Show the element of suprise. Nothing to lose and a early goal would change the tie.

Also bin Glatzel off and play a front three of our wingers and just run at them . They are to strong at the back for him

I’m not so sure about 3 at back but one thing I would do is bring Flint on with 15 mins to go,he’s definitely got a eye for goal from set plays.

I would go 3 at the back and just attack them until we score. Show the element of suprise. Nothing to lose and a early goal would change the tie.

Also bin Glatzel off and play a front three of our wingers and just run at them . They are to strong at the back for him

3 at the back could work actually. They attack so slowly.

Just need to overload the box. Their weakness is their defence. Definitely got mistakes in them.

Need to do something they won't expect as they look too comfortable containing us . Get back into the game then settle down and play football.

The worry is they will pass us to death keeping it in there own half all game

Yeah. I think we need Pato, Vaulks, Bacuna and Ralls in the middle. Even Tomlin too and drop a RB. NML and Hoilett to do more defensively.

Totally agree with you. Don't think he will though and it'll be too comfortable for Fulham to see the clock down.

I would go 3 at the back and just attack them until we score. Show the element of suprise. Nothing to lose and a early goal would change the tie.

Also bin Glatzel off and play a front three of our wingers and just run at them . They are to strong at the back for him

3 at the back could work actually. They attack so slowly.

Just need to overload the box. Their weakness is their defence. Definitely got mistakes in them.

Need to do something they won't expect as they look too comfortable containing us . Get back into the game then settle down and play football.

The worry is they will pass us to death keeping it in there own half all game

Yeah. I think we need Pato, Vaulks, Bacuna and Ralls in the middle. Even Tomlin too and drop a RB. NML and Hoilett to do more defensively.

Totally agree with you. Don't think he will though and it'll be too comfortable for Fulham to see the clock down.

I like the thought of Patterson in midfield. I've always thought he would make a good defensive midfielder

I believe the only way this squad has a chance of beating Fulham on Thursday is to go back to a Warnock Ball game plan.Get the ball in their half,get in the Fulham’s players faces and don’t let them settle and play.
A Little change of personal With maybe Pato,Ward and Vaulks coming in.

Not pretty,a little step backwards but just might cause an upset,play like tonite and 2-0 again.

Love the optimism but absolutely no chance. This will be like West Ham 2012. Fully expect to get well beaten again but maybe score this time. This side just lack guile and are just not good enough in possession. It will be an interesting pre-season to see who Harris let's go and signs. I dont fear any of the sides coming down.

Really don’t think Patterson is the answer, in any position. He scores the odd goal and gives it everything but lacks any quality on the back, which is what we need to beat Fulham. Remember, he started the league last game which we also lost 2-0 and didn’t get a kick. At least Gratzel had a couple of efforts and held the ball up.

Tonight was our strongest team, maybe with the exception of Vaulks in for Pack. I think it would have been a different game if Hector hadn’t made that goal saving tackle on Gratzel and we gone one nil up.

Parker has Harris sussed exactly the same as the last 9yime we oplayed them we had the the better of them the I first thirty minutes but after that Fulham took con0trol and got better as if he patch went on.pains me to say that

Parker has Harris sussed exactly the same as the last 9yime we oplayed them we had the the better of them the I first thirty minutes but after that Fulham took con0trol and got better as if he patch went on.pains me to say that

Spot on. Both games identical. Did well before first drinks break. Not sure what the answer is. Tonight was probably our best team. Just needed that first goal. Mountain to climb.

Personally I would like to see a big gamble and go 4 4 2 with Paterson and ward up front. We have nothing to lose at this point.

I believe the only way this squad has a chance of beating Fulham on Thursday is to go back to a Warnock Ball game plan.Get the ball in their half,get in the Fulham’s players faces and don’t let them settle and play.
A Little change of personal With maybe Pato,Ward and Vaulks coming in.

Not pretty,a little step backwards but just might cause an upset,play like tonite and 2-0 again.

i agree in principal...but i dont see it as a step backwards...Fulham are good at passing and we are not..so be good at what we have been good at

I would go 3 at the back and just attack them until we score. Show the element of suprise. Nothing to lose and a early goal would change the tie.

Also bin Glatzel off and play a front three of our wingers and just run at them . They are to strong at the back for him

3 at the back could work actually. They attack so slowly.

Just need to overload the box. Their weakness is their defence. Definitely got mistakes in them.

I agree.....3 at the back. I'd go with Mozza, Flint and Bamba with Patto starting at CF, Bennett and Sanderson as wingbacks, Vaulks, Bacuna and Tomlin in midfield (Tomlin more advanced) with either NML or Hoilett playing through the middle just off Paterson. Just launch everything into the box....corners free kicks and long throws. It wouldn't be pretty but I don't think they'd handle our three giant centre backs plus Paterson. If we go with the same shape as we have been lately and just tinker with on or two personnel we will get beat again...and probably by more. Nothing to lose and they definitely wouldn't be prepared for it. Midfield was very poor tonight...Ralls and Pack looked lost, Fulham easily played around them. Tomlin too was quiet. We will never outplay Fulham so just bombard them and see what happens!!

I would go 3 at the back and just attack them until we score. Show the element of suprise. Nothing to lose and a early goal would change the tie.

Also bin Glatzel off and play a front three of our wingers and just run at them . They are to strong at the back for him

3 at the back could work actually. They attack so slowly.

Just need to overload the box. Their weakness is their defence. Definitely got mistakes in them.

I agree.....3 at the back. I'd go with Mozza, Flint and Bamba with Patto starting at CF, Bennett and Sanderson as wingbacks, Vaulks, Bacuna and Tomlin in midfield (Tomlin more advanced) with either NML or Hoilett playing through the middle just off Paterson. Just launch everything into the box....corners free kicks and long throws. It wouldn't be pretty but I don't think they'd handle our three giant centre backs plus Paterson. If we go with the same shape as we have been lately and just tinker with on or two personnel we will get beat again...and probably by more. Nothing to lose and they definitely wouldn't be prepared for it. Midfield was very poor tonight...Ralls and Pack looked lost, Fulham easily played around them. Tomlin too was quiet. We will never outplay Fulham so just bombard them and see what happens!!

i agree..
but i seem to be in a minority that actually thinks the ball in the opposition box is much prettier than pass, pass, pass, throw in to Fulham.. while pretending Glatzel is this strong man mountain who holds the ball up . if we had Fulhams players id get the passing. we havent.. we didnt ,we lost and nobody but nobody thought it pretty because we pass more...

It’ll be like West Ham away in the play offs a few years back.

Fulham are miles ahead of us in pace and quality.

Not even a competent referee can save us now

Glatzel has done the same as Paterson, Scored a few goals, led us to believe he is a striker and took too long to realise he just isn't up to this level. Its like starting with 10.5 players, he just isn't very good and we have to accept it.

As I see it we have Danny Ward as our only competent striker but for whatever reason Harris doesn't start him, so I guess he is not part of his future plans. In that case play NML there, his first touch is no worse, better in the air for flick on to no one and much much stronger, but if it get played behind the centre halfs then we are at the races.

This allows Josh (who i would play there before NML) on the field but with limited defensive duties. I would play Tomlin on the other flank but well tucked in and the 3 midfielders for every second ball. Ralls & Bennett would need to compensate for Tomlin wondering, but hey ho lets go down with a fight.

Sanderson Morrison Nelson Bennett
Bacuna Vaulks Ralls
Murphy NML Tomlin

Personally I would like to see a big gamble and go 4 4 2 with Paterson and ward up front. We have nothing to lose at this point.

I can't see us playing two up top, particularly if Tomlin is playing, but if we did I'd go for Ward and Glatzel.

I think teams know that Paterson poses no threat in behind them so teams just push the back 4 up 10-15 yards meaning that any flicks he manages to win cause little problem. Ward and Glatzel both have the pace/intelligence to run in behind and that pushes the opposition back.

No coincidence that our scoring rate lately is much improved since Paterson isn't starting.

Personally I would like to see a big gamble and go 4 4 2 with Paterson and ward up front. We have nothing to lose at this point.

I can't see us playing two up top, particularly if Tomlin is playing, but if we did I'd go for Ward and Glatzel.

I think teams know that Paterson poses no threat in behind them so teams just push the back 4 up 10-15 yards meaning that any flicks he manages to win cause little problem. Ward and Glatzel both have the pace/intelligence to run in behind and that pushes the opposition back.

No coincidence that our scoring rate lately is much improved since Paterson isn't starting.

id love to be watching this imaginary Glatzel that some watch.. fast , intelligent, holds the ball up , and its no coincidence that the wild imagination boys have dodgy stats sheets either....

Personally I would like to see a big gamble and go 4 4 2 with Paterson and ward up front. We have nothing to lose at this point.

I can't see us playing two up top, particularly if Tomlin is playing, but if we did I'd go for Ward and Glatzel.

I think teams know that Paterson poses no threat in behind them so teams just push the back 4 up 10-15 yards meaning that any flicks he manages to win cause little problem. Ward and Glatzel both have the pace/intelligence to run in behind and that pushes the opposition back.

No coincidence that our scoring rate lately is much improved since Paterson isn't starting.

id love to be watching this imaginary Glatzel that some watch.. fast , intelligent, holds the ball up , and its no coincidence that the wild imagination boys have dodgy stats sheets either....

He is playing lot better and does some good things but at moment doesn't make most of chances coming his way... so if we do stay in championship maybe just maybe Harris can keep on improving him before start next season? As for Patterson no way should we be playing him if got ambitions to be challenging next season arrasing opposition
defenders is not a reason to play him...

Harris is trying to change the way we play and it's been better to watch us playing a bit of football. However, there are still occasions when you have to give it leather to clear your lines, you can't play out from the back all the time. It's a learning process for the players we have and the more they play a new system the better we'll be for it. More than once last night, our defenders were looking for a short pass on the edge of our box, when a big hoof was required.

Personally I would like to see a big gamble and go 4 4 2 with Paterson and ward up front. We have nothing to lose at this point.

I can't see us playing two up top, particularly if Tomlin is playing, but if we did I'd go for Ward and Glatzel.

I think teams know that Paterson poses no threat in behind them so teams just push the back 4 up 10-15 yards meaning that any flicks he manages to win cause little problem. Ward and Glatzel both have the pace/intelligence to run in behind and that pushes the opposition back.

No coincidence that our scoring rate lately is much improved since Paterson isn't starting.

id love to be watching this imaginary Glatzel that some watch.. fast , intelligent, holds the ball up , and its no coincidence that the wild imagination boys have dodgy stats sheets either....

He is playing lot better and does some good things but at moment doesn't make most of chances coming his way... so if we do stay in championship maybe just maybe Harris can keep on improving him before start next season? As for Patterson no way should we be playing him if got ambitions to be challenging next season arrasing opposition
defenders is not a reason to play him...

improved ? most of those claiming the improvement are the same ones claiming he was decent months ago, .. nobody is claiming Paterson is a great striker.. he is an ok make shift one for when you dont have any..... LIKE NOW...

WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HOLDING A LEAD LAST NIGHT AND INSTEAD ARE DEAD AND BURRIED...

Personally I would like to see a big gamble and go 4 4 2 with Paterson and ward up front. We have nothing to lose at this point.

I can't see us playing two up top, particularly if Tomlin is playing, but if we did I'd go for Ward and Glatzel.

I think teams know that Paterson poses no threat in behind them so teams just push the back 4 up 10-15 yards meaning that any flicks he manages to win cause little problem. Ward and Glatzel both have the pace/intelligence to run in behind and that pushes the opposition back.

No coincidence that our scoring rate lately is much improved since Paterson isn't starting.

id love to be watching this imaginary Glatzel that some watch.. fast , intelligent, holds the ball up , and its no coincidence that the wild imagination boys have dodgy stats sheets either....

He is playing lot better and does some good things but at moment doesn't make most of chances coming his way... so if we do stay in championship maybe just maybe Harris can keep on improving him before start next season? As for Patterson no way should we be playing him if got ambitions to be challenging next season arrasing opposition
defenders is not a reason to play him...

improved ? most of those claiming the improvement are the same ones claiming he was decent months ago, .. nobody is claiming Paterson is a great striker.. he is an ok make shift one for when you dont have any..... LIKE NOW...

If you cannot see his game as improved since Harris as come in well thats upto you... but people keep banging on about playing Patterson upfront prefer flint at least can put header in right direction and will carry a threat on goal. But its about opinions for what they'reworth

I’d rather stay in the Championship than watch Warnockball again.

Personally I would like to see a big gamble and go 4 4 2 with Paterson and ward up front. We have nothing to lose at this point.

I can't see us playing two up top, particularly if Tomlin is playing, but if we did I'd go for Ward and Glatzel.

I think teams know that Paterson poses no threat in behind them so teams just push the back 4 up 10-15 yards meaning that any flicks he manages to win cause little problem. Ward and Glatzel both have the pace/intelligence to run in behind and that pushes the opposition back.

No coincidence that our scoring rate lately is much improved since Paterson isn't starting.

id love to be watching this imaginary Glatzel that some watch.. fast , intelligent, holds the ball up , and its no coincidence that the wild imagination boys have dodgy stats sheets either....

I would certainly agree that Glatzel isn't the full answer yet, particularly his hold up play which needs to be better. He might never actually get to the level we need but he does pose more of a goal threat than Paterson.

Are you seriously making an argument for Paterson to start Just can't see what he offers other than run around a lot, often aimlessly, looking for a physical challenge and losing the ball.

He did well as an unexpected wild card when we needed him but he's been sussed. That said, I hope he proves me wrong and scores a hat trick on Thursday

The best options upfront are either a front 3 of our wingers

Hoilett , Murphy , Mendez and letting the swap throughout the game

Or

Play Danny Ward who is at least a competent striker at this level.

No matter how people want to say he is , Patterson is not a striker. He is more suited to midfield.

Glatzel tries his best but is not good enough for a team looking for promotion. He is a one in 4 striker at best , we need better. He should have had 20 this season with all his misses andast night proved it. Any decent striker would have scored 2 easily .

Personally I would like to see a big gamble and go 4 4 2 with Paterson and ward up front. We have nothing to lose at this point.

I can't see us playing two up top, particularly if Tomlin is playing, but if we did I'd go for Ward and Glatzel.

I think teams know that Paterson poses no threat in behind them so teams just push the back 4 up 10-15 yards meaning that any flicks he manages to win cause little problem. Ward and Glatzel both have the pace/intelligence to run in behind and that pushes the opposition back.

No coincidence that our scoring rate lately is much improved since Paterson isn't starting.

id love to be watching this imaginary Glatzel that some watch.. fast , intelligent, holds the ball up , and its no coincidence that the wild imagination boys have dodgy stats sheets either....

I would certainly agree that Glatzel isn't the full answer yet, particularly his hold up play which needs to be better. He might never actually get to the level we need but he does pose more of a goal threat than Paterson.

Are you seriously making an argument for Paterson to start Just can't see what he offers other than run around a lot, often aimlessly, looking for a physical challenge and losing the ball.

He did well as an unexpected wild card when we needed him but he's been sussed. That said, I hope he proves me wrong and scores a hat trick on Thursday

i know people dont see it , yes he is more physical but he also reads / understands the game much better.an example is the amount of free kicks one wins ,the other gives away... Pato tends to arrive the same time as the ball which is a defenders nightmare because they know whats coming ..RG stands there ,tries to be physical but just ends up penalised , pato is also far more likely to pinch the ball or cause a wayward pass. you can literally see RG think first which then means its too late..... having said that no he isnt a forward but that doesnt mean he cant do better than a really poor forward... so yes i would love us to knock them about and go more direct Thursday.. plus the stats here are not marginal...