Worst case scenario

Not saying this will happen but my thoughts on the worst case scenario.
Season begins and the stadiums are still closed to supporters as Drakeford digs his heels in.
Several matches later and the Fans are Let in the stadium but only 30% of stadium capacity. Away fans banned as to stop travelling across the country so works out at just under 10.000 fans out of a possibility of more than 10.000 season ticket holders.
Nervous wait by fans to see if they are the ones that will be told they will have to watch online.
Fans arrive in Canton and Grangetown hoping to get a pre match pint but the Pubs are told to stay closed as social distancing cannot be guaranteed.
Arrive at the ground and masks are given out stating no mask no entry. You are then let in using methods to keep people apart the toilets has queues going around the Boul as only five a time are allowed in.
You get into the bowl you go to your designated seats and there are empty seats on either direction from you to keep to social distancing.
Stewards tell you that you will have to remain seated at all times and no singing or shouting to avoid droplets of gob going airborne.
Anyone seen removing there mask or moving it down will be warned of ejection.
The teams come out to have to watch them take a knee and the Racist Black Power fist pump.
Anyone objecting will be threatened with a permanent ban.
The game kicks off and the atmosphere is non existent . Everyone moaning about the whole experience.
Only joking I’m sure everything will be fine and everyone will be glad to be back at the football with there mates but not together

Not saying this will happen but my thoughts on the worst case scenario.
Season begins and the stadiums are still closed to supporters as Drakeford digs his heels in.
Several matches later and the Fans are Let in the stadium but only 30% of stadium capacity. Away fans banned as to stop travelling across the country so works out at just under 10.000 fans out of a possibility of more than 10.000 season ticket holders.
Nervous wait by fans to see if they are the ones that will be told they will have to watch online.
Fans arrive in Canton and Grangetown hoping to get a pre match pint but the Pubs are told to stay closed as social distancing cannot be guaranteed.
Arrive at the ground and masks are given out stating no mask no entry. You are then let in using methods to keep people apart the toilets has queues going around the Boul as only five a time are allowed in.
You get into the bowl you go to your designated seats and there are empty seats on either direction from you to keep to social distancing.
Stewards tell you that you will have to remain seated at all times and no singing or shouting to avoid droplets of gob going airborne.
Anyone seen removing there mask or moving it down will be warned of ejection.
The teams come out to have to watch them take a knee and the Racist Black Power fist pump.
Anyone objecting will be threatened with a permanent ban.
The game kicks off and the atmosphere is non existent . Everyone moaning about the whole experience.
Only joking I’m sure everything will be fine and everyone will be glad to be back at the football with there mates but not together

Mmmm knowing ccfc stewards they will be there keeping fans sitting and stopping them cheering a goal not that far fetched.

Big question mark about the validity of this Lockdown.

USA and UK are turning out to be the worse case scenarios for COVID 19, if you believe the figures, yet both countries have complied to Lockdown rules more than most. However, and within the USA a number of States have backdown with the rules and have had no signicient increase in Covid cases. They seem to be following the same model as countries like Sweden now who have hardly any Lockdown and yet have the lowst cases of the Virus. Its all being questioned now.

Time will tell us the truth and if it turns out a hoax then lets not make the same mistake again.

Big question mark about the validity of this Lockdown.

USA and UK are turning out to be the worse case scenarios for COVID 19, if you believe the figures, yet both countries have complied to Lockdown rules more than most. However, and within the USA a number of States have backdown with the rules and have had no signicient increase in Covid cases. They seem to be following the same model as countries like Sweden now who have hardly any Lockdown and yet have the lowst cases of the Virus. Its all being questioned now.

Time will tell us the truth and if it turns out a hoax then lets not make the same mistake again.

Was there ever a correct way to do things? Australia had severe lockdown from start but now Victoria state is back in lockdown because 80% of people who had symptoms ignored them and went about business as normal! Yet 80% of people here dont show signs of corvid when got it but cases here basically falling? The simple fact is it's a pandemic like asian flu but that killed 20m corvid as killed less than a million and wont get bear 20m by time it's done.... as for death rates dont believe what is being said as if already dying with cancer thats counted in figures just for showing signs... and funny how when things look better a so called expert from nowhere says it will get worse ect ect and bbc often say the deaths could be higher than reported because dont take into account certain establishments? Never could be lower because every death is being counted as corvid even though not tested? Strange that

Big question mark about the validity of this Lockdown.

USA and UK are turning out to be the worse case scenarios for COVID 19, if you believe the figures, yet both countries have complied to Lockdown rules more than most. However, and within the USA a number of States have backdown with the rules and have had no signicient increase in Covid cases. They seem to be following the same model as countries like Sweden now who have hardly any Lockdown and yet have the lowst cases of the Virus. Its all being questioned now.

Time will tell us the truth and if it turns out a hoax then lets not make the same mistake again.

Not sure where you got the idea that the UK and USA have been more compliant with lockdown? The USA have been shambolic with their lockdown. We’ve been considerably better than they have but compared to Spain, Italy, France, etc our lockdown and enforcement of it has been much weaker.
Maybe I’m misreading but are you saying you think the virus is a hoax?

Big question mark about the validity of this Lockdown.

USA and UK are turning out to be the worse case scenarios for COVID 19, if you believe the figures, yet both countries have complied to Lockdown rules more than most. However, and within the USA a number of States have backdown with the rules and have had no signicient increase in Covid cases. They seem to be following the same model as countries like Sweden now who have hardly any Lockdown and yet have the lowst cases of the Virus. Its all being questioned now.

Time will tell us the truth and if it turns out a hoax then lets not make the same mistake again.

right at the very start of this it was being said large events were far less a problem than people in enclosed environments...
then Italy followed by Spain locked down , followed by huge panic and pressure to do likewise...its the exact opposite to what was being said originally...4 months later not only are lockdowns being eased but being eased while reported cases and deaths are HIGHER than when we locked down...74 daily deaths cant leave the house, 100 deaths you can fly to Spain. really ? and along the way of this easing there was a point you could have a garden party OUTDOORS with people not allowed even to go INDOORS to use the toilet...apparently its now safer outdoors in a group than indoors where the virus stays on surfaces.. back to square one ?
italy announced lockdown on a day they had 97 daily deaths , a week later it was nearly 400 deaths and a fortnight later 700 .
Spain a few days later announced on 63 daily death a week later its 250 and a fortnight later its well over 800..
9 days after Spain we jumped in on 74 daily deaths, guess what came next... nobody will ever admit it was a mistake after it costing billions and ruining economies and it cant be proved... more would have died etc etc ? really ?

Big question mark about the validity of this Lockdown.

USA and UK are turning out to be the worse case scenarios for COVID 19, if you believe the figures, yet both countries have complied to Lockdown rules more than most. However, and within the USA a number of States have backdown with the rules and have had no signicient increase in Covid cases. They seem to be following the same model as countries like Sweden now who have hardly any Lockdown and yet have the lowst cases of the Virus. Its all being questioned now.

Time will tell us the truth and if it turns out a hoax then lets not make the same mistake again.

right at the very start of this it was being said large events were far less a problem than people in enclosed environments...
then Italy followed by Spain locked down , followed by huge panic and pressure to do likewise...its the exact opposite to what was being said originally...4 months later not only are lockdowns being eased but being eased while reported cases and deaths are HIGHER than when we locked down...74 daily deaths cant leave the house, 100 deaths you can fly to Spain. really ? and along the way of this easing there was a point you could have a garden party OUTDOORS with people not allowed even to go INDOORS to use the toilet...apparently its now safer outdoors in a group than indoors where the virus stays on surfaces.. back to square one ?
italy announced lockdown on a day they had 97 daily deaths , a week later it was nearly 400 deaths and a fortnight later 700 .
Spain a few days later announced on 63 daily death a week later its 250 and a fortnight later its well over 800..
9 days after Spain we jumped in on 74 daily deaths, guess what came next... nobody will ever admit it was a mistake after it costing billions and ruining economies and it cant be proved... more would have died etc etc ? really ?

i dont think it was a hoax but my god its an over reaction..the worlds biggest... and now we have to go through these pretend easing phases which make zero sense...if you can go to an airport and get on a full plane .ALL other restrictions are then ridiculous..

Big question mark about the validity of this Lockdown.

USA and UK are turning out to be the worse case scenarios for COVID 19, if you believe the figures, yet both countries have complied to Lockdown rules more than most. However, and within the USA a number of States have backdown with the rules and have had no signicient increase in Covid cases. They seem to be following the same model as countries like Sweden now who have hardly any Lockdown and yet have the lowst cases of the Virus. Its all being questioned now.

Time will tell us the truth and if it turns out a hoax then lets not make the same mistake again.

right at the very start of this it was being said large events were far less a problem than people in enclosed environments...
then Italy followed by Spain locked down , followed by huge panic and pressure to do likewise...its the exact opposite to what was being said originally...4 months later not only are lockdowns being eased but being eased while reported cases and deaths are HIGHER than when we locked down...74 daily deaths cant leave the house, 100 deaths you can fly to Spain. really ? and along the way of this easing there was a point you could have a garden party OUTDOORS with people not allowed even to go INDOORS to use the toilet...apparently its now safer outdoors in a group than indoors where the virus stays on surfaces.. back to square one ?
italy announced lockdown on a day they had 97 daily deaths , a week later it was nearly 400 deaths and a fortnight later 700 .
Spain a few days later announced on 63 daily death a week later its 250 and a fortnight later its well over 800..
9 days after Spain we jumped in on 74 daily deaths, guess what came next... nobody will ever admit it was a mistake after it costing billions and ruining economies and it cant be proved... more would have died etc etc ? really ?

i dont think it was a hoax but my god its an over reaction..the worlds biggest... and now we have to go through these pretend easing phases which make zero sense...if you can go to an airport and get on a full plane .ALL other restrictions are then ridiculous..

I agree not a hoax but a knowing over reaction. Right from the start I have said the death rates were a shambles and no where near the amount we are being told. 45 thousand deaths we are told but a revised figure not mentioned in the MSM is in the 20 odd thousand. Now I believe it is much lower again with the number down to covid alone would be no more than a few thousand.
We were told at the beginning that masks were no protection and even a Nurse in ICU told me the same. But now we have little to no cases we are all told to wear this shit. But the crazy thing is the media are keeping the public terrified so they will always do what they are told like obedient little sheep. Over reaction from the start and I believe all for political reasons and still the same now. All businesses are struggling and many will fold. Masses will be unemployed and one thing is for sure the amount of suicides will surpass that of Covid

Surely worst case scenario is loads of people dying?

Big question mark about the validity of this Lockdown.

USA and UK are turning out to be the worse case scenarios for COVID 19, if you believe the figures, yet both countries have complied to Lockdown rules more than most. However, and within the USA a number of States have backdown with the rules and have had no signicient increase in Covid cases. They seem to be following the same model as countries like Sweden now who have hardly any Lockdown and yet have the lowst cases of the Virus. Its all being questioned now.

Time will tell us the truth and if it turns out a hoax then lets not make the same mistake again.

right at the very start of this it was being said large events were far less a problem than people in enclosed environments...
then Italy followed by Spain locked down , followed by huge panic and pressure to do likewise...its the exact opposite to what was being said originally...4 months later not only are lockdowns being eased but being eased while reported cases and deaths are HIGHER than when we locked down...74 daily deaths cant leave the house, 100 deaths you can fly to Spain. really ? and along the way of this easing there was a point you could have a garden party OUTDOORS with people not allowed even to go INDOORS to use the toilet...apparently its now safer outdoors in a group than indoors where the virus stays on surfaces.. back to square one ?
italy announced lockdown on a day they had 97 daily deaths , a week later it was nearly 400 deaths and a fortnight later 700 .
Spain a few days later announced on 63 daily death a week later its 250 and a fortnight later its well over 800..
9 days after Spain we jumped in on 74 daily deaths, guess what came next... nobody will ever admit it was a mistake after it costing billions and ruining economies and it cant be proved... more would have died etc etc ? really ?

i dont think it was a hoax but my god its an over reaction..the worlds biggest... and now we have to go through these pretend easing phases which make zero sense...if you can go to an airport and get on a full plane .ALL other restrictions are then ridiculous..

I agree not a hoax but a knowing over reaction. Right from the start I have said the death rates were a shambles and no where near the amount we are being told. 45 thousand deaths we are told but a revised figure not mentioned in the MSM is in the 20 odd thousand. Now I believe it is much lower again with the number down to covid alone would be no more than a few thousand.
We were told at the beginning that masks were no protection and even a Nurse in ICU told me the same. But now we have little to no cases we are all told to wear this shit. But the crazy thing is the media are keeping the public terrified so they will always do what they are told like obedient little sheep. Over reaction from the start and I believe all for political reasons and still the same now. All businesses are struggling and many will fold. Masses will be unemployed and one thing is for sure the amount of suicides will surpass that of Covid

Why do people pursue this idea that Covid is some kind of hoax or over reaction. What is to be gained for a Govt having to borrow billions and potentially crippling themselves with a crashed economy and high unemployment, especially a Conservative one.

As for the high death numbers - again what is to be gained for a Govt in overstating the numbers. They may have got them wrong (May), but absolutely no reason to call them up as it could wipe them out of power for years.

Simple fact is, this was and continues to be a huge unknown. Learning happens as we go and with that advice will change and there is plenty of evidence out there as to why masks weren’t initially recommended but they are now.

So what was the spike in March and April for then . You can't make up stats for above average deaths pm.

Roll on Oct when we shall see what is what as furlough will be over and you either go to work or lose job ..... there is no way on earth countries not only ours can economically support any sort of lockdown again without losing millions of jobs permanently! Then see what corvid does with nearly everyone out and about..

Big question mark about the validity of this Lockdown.

USA and UK are turning out to be the worse case scenarios for COVID 19, if you believe the figures, yet both countries have complied to Lockdown rules more than most. However, and within the USA a number of States have backdown with the rules and have had no signicient increase in Covid cases. They seem to be following the same model as countries like Sweden now who have hardly any Lockdown and yet have the lowst cases of the Virus. Its all being questioned now.

Time will tell us the truth and if it turns out a hoax then lets not make the same mistake again.

right at the very start of this it was being said large events were far less a problem than people in enclosed environments...
then Italy followed by Spain locked down , followed by huge panic and pressure to do likewise...its the exact opposite to what was being said originally...4 months later not only are lockdowns being eased but being eased while reported cases and deaths are HIGHER than when we locked down...74 daily deaths cant leave the house, 100 deaths you can fly to Spain. really ? and along the way of this easing there was a point you could have a garden party OUTDOORS with people not allowed even to go INDOORS to use the toilet...apparently its now safer outdoors in a group than indoors where the virus stays on surfaces.. back to square one ?
italy announced lockdown on a day they had 97 daily deaths , a week later it was nearly 400 deaths and a fortnight later 700 .
Spain a few days later announced on 63 daily death a week later its 250 and a fortnight later its well over 800..
9 days after Spain we jumped in on 74 daily deaths, guess what came next... nobody will ever admit it was a mistake after it costing billions and ruining economies and it cant be proved... more would have died etc etc ? really ?

i dont think it was a hoax but my god its an over reaction..the worlds biggest... and now we have to go through these pretend easing phases which make zero sense...if you can go to an airport and get on a full plane .ALL other restrictions are then ridiculous..

I agree not a hoax but a knowing over reaction. Right from the start I have said the death rates were a shambles and no where near the amount we are being told. 45 thousand deaths we are told but a revised figure not mentioned in the MSM is in the 20 odd thousand. Now I believe it is much lower again with the number down to covid alone would be no more than a few thousand.
We were told at the beginning that masks were no protection and even a Nurse in ICU told me the same. But now we have little to no cases we are all told to wear this shit. But the crazy thing is the media are keeping the public terrified so they will always do what they are told like obedient little sheep. Over reaction from the start and I believe all for political reasons and still the same now. All businesses are struggling and many will fold. Masses will be unemployed and one thing is for sure the amount of suicides will surpass that of Covid

(1) Why do people pursue this idea that Covid is some kind of hoax or over reaction. What is to be gained for a Govt having to borrow billions and potentially crippling themselves with a crashed economy and high unemployment, especially a Conservative one.

(2) As for the high death numbers - again what is to be gained for a Govt in overstating the numbers. They may have got them wrong (May), but absolutely no reason to call them up as it could wipe them out of power for years.

(3) Simple fact is, this was and continues to be a huge unknown. Learning happens as we go and with that advice will change and there is plenty of evidence out there as to why masks weren’t initially recommended but they are now.

1 & 2) You need to look outside of national Government and more globalist/international Government to understand what is to be gained by implementing such extreme and unprecedented draconian public measures. The United Nations~(UN) have a tonne of "Sustainable Development Goals (SDGS)" to reach by 2030 (a.k.a. Agenda 2030).

Due to the extreme and forced slowdown in worldwide economic activity, a lot of the supposedly more polluting and damaging activities that were being carried out daily, have now either stopped or drastically slowed down. This has reduced dangerous air pollution levels in China and has had a positive effect on balancing out the PH level in the oceans for example.

For the UN to achieve their goals by 2030, it looks like a lot of businesses will need to change dramatically or face extinction. A way to force the extinction of a lot of businesses would be to continue to impose lockdowns and increase the severity and restrictions little by little along the way.

If you check out the World Economic Forum (WEF), they are talking about "The Great Reset". My view on what "The Great Reset" means, having studied their documents and publications, is that the plan is to 'temporarily' crash the economy and completely reconfigure how business and transactions are made all over the world. We are already seeing a push to a cashless society, but I wouldn't be surprised if we see a light version of a Chinese style "Social Credit System".

A quote from WEF:
Advancing to the world we want to have

The pandemic has made it clearer than ever that governments and organizations must change radically. That is not just about COVID-19, but also about the profound issues that were already present: global and generational inequality, low trust in institutions, climate change, and personal privacy in a digital world.

By working together, we can do all this. In fact, we must. And now is the time.

For further info to make your own mind up on, here's a link to 'Five Key Actions' proposed by WEF to implement immediately. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/07/ ... -together/

3) Could you give me some of the evidence why masks weren't initially recommended? I haven't found this myself. I find it ironic that China, being known for obedience and mask wearing is the source of a deadly virus. If mask wearing and obedience were key to eradicating covid then China wouldn't have had a problem containing it. Besides, covid has long since been downgraded as a non-high consequence infectious disease (HCID).

Big question mark about the validity of this Lockdown.

USA and UK are turning out to be the worse case scenarios for COVID 19, if you believe the figures, yet both countries have complied to Lockdown rules more than most. However, and within the USA a number of States have backdown with the rules and have had no signicient increase in Covid cases. They seem to be following the same model as countries like Sweden now who have hardly any Lockdown and yet have the lowst cases of the Virus. Its all being questioned now.

Time will tell us the truth and if it turns out a hoax then lets not make the same mistake again.

America have been hit Massively since easing out of lockdown