Radio 5 reporting max capacity at 30%

Radio 5 reporting this morning that stadium capacity in September will be a maximum of 30%, with 1 meter spacing. You will though be able to sit as a family of up to 4 people.
Every other row occupied with 1 meter spacing all around you.



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Radio 5 reporting this morning that stadium capacity in September will be a maximum of 30%, with 1 meter spacing. You will though be able to sit as a family of up to 4 people.
Every other row occupied with 1 meter spacing all around you.

Cannot be done, how are you going to go to the toilet, without passing people by inches in your row or are you just not supposed to go?

Least the post match traffic will be lighter.

Be like back in the Slade days again


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Radio 5 reporting this morning that stadium capacity in September will be a maximum of 30%, with 1 meter spacing. You will though be able to sit as a family of up to 4 people.
Every other row occupied with 1 meter spacing all around you.

Cannot be done, how are you going to go to the toilet, without passing people by inches in your row or are you just not supposed to go?

By wearing a mask..

Radio 5 reporting this morning that stadium capacity in September will be a maximum of 30%, with 1 meter spacing. You will though be able to sit as a family of up to 4 people.
Every other row occupied with 1 meter spacing all around you.

Cannot be done, how are you going to go to the toilet, without passing people by inches in your row or are you just not supposed to go?

By wearing a mask..

Suspect that is what will happen as masks are going to be mandatory in all enclosed public buildings by then probably ... you pass people close now without masks so don't see it as a problem..

Planes every seat is sold and everyone wears a mask .

Radio 5 reporting this morning that stadium capacity in September will be a maximum of 30%, with 1 meter spacing. You will though be able to sit as a family of up to 4 people.
Every other row occupied with 1 meter spacing all around you.

Cannot be done, how are you going to go to the toilet, without passing people by inches in your row or are you just not supposed to go?

By wearing a mask..

Suspect that is what will happen as masks are going to be mandatory in all enclosed public buildings by then probably ... you pass people close now without masks so don't see it as a problem..

Alan I still pass people at two metres, there has been a cock up all along with conflicting advice with wearing masks, and social distancing, there is no way that I would get close to people at a football match whether they are wearing masks or not.
We are talking here about a virus that kills, there have been over 45000 deaths in the uk and only two weeks ago the scientists were saying that even if a vaccine is produced it could only be 50% effective. I do not like those odds.

Radio 5 reporting this morning that stadium capacity in September will be a maximum of 30%, with 1 meter spacing. You will though be able to sit as a family of up to 4 people.
Every other row occupied with 1 meter spacing all around you.

Cannot be done, how are you going to go to the toilet, without passing people by inches in your row or are you just not supposed to go?

By wearing a mask..

Suspect that is what will happen as masks are going to be mandatory in all enclosed public buildings by then probably ... you pass people close now without masks so don't see it as a problem..

Alan I still pass people at two metres, there has been a cock up all along with conflicting advice with wearing masks, and social distancing, there is no way that I would get close to people at a football match whether they are wearing masks or not.
We are talking here about a virus that kills, there have been over 45000 deaths in the uk and only two weeks ago the scientists were saying that even if a vaccine is produced it could only be 50% effective. I do not like those odds.

I know things have been bad and I wouldn't put faith in vaccine either I also try keep my distance but not always possible.. think have simple choice start off with limited capacity or say no crowds until vaccine because corvid is here for foreseeable future....... obviously that will spell ruin for large amount of championship clubs and probably all 1st 2and division ones... some choice isn't it..

Radio 5 reporting this morning that stadium capacity in September will be a maximum of 30%, with 1 meter spacing. You will though be able to sit as a family of up to 4 people.
Every other row occupied with 1 meter spacing all around you.

Cannot be done, how are you going to go to the toilet, without passing people by inches in your row or are you just not supposed to go?

By wearing a mask..

Suspect that is what will happen as masks are going to be mandatory in all enclosed public buildings by then probably ... you pass people close now without masks so don't see it as a problem..

Alan I still pass people at two metres, there has been a cock up all along with conflicting advice with wearing masks, and social distancing, there is no way that I would get close to people at a football match whether they are wearing masks or not.
We are talking here about a virus that kills, there have been over 45000 deaths in the uk and only two weeks ago the scientists were saying that even if a vaccine is produced it could only be 50% effective. I do not like those odds.

You keep saying “2 weeks ago scientists said this and that”.
Mate, since 2 weeks ago the testing has progressed and the vaccine is looking promising.

Here’s the “50%” you keep going on about.

“ The boss of a drugs company that has agreed to deliver up to 100 million doses of a potential COVID-19 vaccine to the UK has told Sky News there is a more than 50% chance of it reaching patients”

The vaccine has a 50% chance of reaching patients by the end of the year. THAT IS ALL the 50% comes from, nothing to do with it’s effectiveness. It’s Proven to be 100% effective on-top of providing immunity stopping you from catching it again in the future too.

You’re either being very unreasonable with your over the top “it doesn’t work, I’m going to be awkward and complain about wearing a mask” or you’re being unwilling to read the facts, you just read the headline.

I apologise if any of that came across nasty I didn’t mean it to be, but you’re spreading fake news so..

Surprised Drakeford hasn't tweeted on this yet to say it won't happen in Wales.

His plan is for fans to be allowed into the car park with the gates of the ground open so they can peer through.

They'll have to wear biohazard suits with motor cycle helmets and keep two metres away from each other.

Fans are replying to VINCE ALM



Karl Mudd:

You have stated that fans will get a city cash refund (or equivalent) for games forced behind closed doors, yet there is nothing on the website I can find?

Is this official or something you are aware will be happening soon? This is the major sticking point for me and I am sure many others. I want to buy a ticket but not under the current advertised conditions.


No reply from Vince

Surprised Drakeford hasn't tweeted on this yet to say it won't happen in Wales.

His plan is for fans to be allowed into the car park with the gates of the ground open so they can peer through.

They'll have to wear biohazard suits with motor cycle helmets and keep two metres away from each other.

about right..

Radio 5 reporting this morning that stadium capacity in September will be a maximum of 30%, with 1 meter spacing. You will though be able to sit as a family of up to 4 people.
Every other row occupied with 1 meter spacing all around you.

Cannot be done, how are you going to go to the toilet, without passing people by inches in your row or are you just not supposed to go?

By wearing a mask..

Suspect that is what will happen as masks are going to be mandatory in all enclosed public buildings by then probably ... you pass people close now without masks so don't see it as a problem..

Alan I still pass people at two metres, there has been a cock up all along with conflicting advice with wearing masks, and social distancing, there is no way that I would get close to people at a football match whether they are wearing masks or not.
We are talking here about a virus that kills, there have been over 45000 deaths in the uk and only two weeks ago the scientists were saying that even if a vaccine is produced it could only be 50% effective. I do not like those odds.

You keep saying “2 weeks ago scientists said this and that”.
Mate, since 2 weeks ago the testing has progressed and the vaccine is looking promising.

Here’s the “50%” you keep going on about.

“ The boss of a drugs company that has agreed to deliver up to 100 million doses of a potential COVID-19 vaccine to the UK has told Sky News there is a more than 50% chance of it reaching patients”

The vaccine has a 50% chance of reaching patients by the end of the year. THAT IS ALL the 50% comes from, nothing to do with it’s effectiveness. It’s Proven to be 100% effective on-top of providing immunity stopping you from catching it again in the future too.

You’re either being very unreasonable with your over the top “it doesn’t work, I’m going to be awkward and complain about wearing a mask” or you’re being unwilling to read the facts, you just read the headline.

I apologise if any of that came across nasty I didn’t mean it to be, but you’re spreading fake news so..

Will wait with bated breath on vaccine and if they manage to make one sufficiently to be useful! lost count how many times wonder drug for cancers ect ect have been developed only for them never to reach patients because they dont work but companies still get more and more research money to find another wonder drug..... and dont forget corvid is in a family of viruses which includes common cold and others of which precisely none have a vaccine .. but live in hope

Radio 5 reporting this morning that stadium capacity in September will be a maximum of 30%, with 1 meter spacing. You will though be able to sit as a family of up to 4 people.
Every other row occupied with 1 meter spacing all around you.

Cannot be done, how are you going to go to the toilet, without passing people by inches in your row or are you just not supposed to go?

CCS is better placed than most stadiums as it's got large concourse areas and one way in one way out toilets! wouldn't go to any premier league clubs with maybe exception of 3, ants couldn't social distance in others

Alan I still pass people at two metres, there has been a cock up all along with conflicting advice with wearing masks, and social distancing, there is no way that I would get close to people at a football match whether they are wearing masks or not.
We are talking here about a virus that kills, there have been over 45000 deaths in the uk and only two weeks ago the scientists were saying that even if a vaccine is produced it could only be 50% effective. I do not like those odds. [/quote]

You keep saying “2 weeks ago scientists said this and that”.
Mate, since 2 weeks ago the testing has progressed and the vaccine is looking promising.

Here’s the “50%” you keep going on about.

“ The boss of a drugs company that has agreed to deliver up to 100 million doses of a potential COVID-19 vaccine to the UK has told Sky News there is a more than 50% chance of it reaching patients”

The vaccine has a 50% chance of reaching patients by the end of the year. THAT IS ALL the 50% comes from, nothing to do with it’s effectiveness. It’s Proven to be 100% effective on-top of providing immunity stopping you from catching it again in the future too.

You’re either being very unreasonable with your over the top “it doesn’t work, I’m going to be awkward and complain about wearing a mask” or you’re being unwilling to read the facts, you just read the headline.

I apologise if any of that came across nasty I didn’t mean it to be, but you’re spreading fake news so..[/quote]

Fake news are you for real, don't try and tell me what I am on about don't be so arrogant as to state that. I am not on about reaching 50% of people I am on about 50% effectiveness. At this moment there is no vaccine for Covid 19, they are still in the process of testing them. "Quote"

Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine ‘has only 50-per-cent chance of success’

‘We’re in the bizarre position of wanting Covid to stay, at least for a little while,’ says researcher

Professor Adrian of the Jenner Institute in Oxford has warned against 'over promising' on his lab's coronavirus vaccine

Oxford University scientists working on a coronavirus vaccine have said it may only have a 50-per-cent chance of success.
Project leader Professor Adrian Hill, of the university’s Jenner Institute, said the realization of a working vaccine was far from guaranteed and cautioned against “over promising”, in an interview with The Sunday Telegraph. "Un-Quote"

Here is a link for you, and this professor is not the only one, but I not going to bother to look up the rest of them you can do that yourself. Perhaps instead of telling me to read up about it you should do the reading.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/scie ... 30606.html

Alan I still pass people at two metres, there has been a cock up all along with conflicting advice with wearing masks, and social distancing, there is no way that I would get close to people at a football match whether they are wearing masks or not.
We are talking here about a virus that kills, there have been over 45000 deaths in the uk and only two weeks ago the scientists were saying that even if a vaccine is produced it could only be 50% effective. I do not like those odds.

You keep saying “2 weeks ago scientists said this and that”.
Mate, since 2 weeks ago the testing has progressed and the vaccine is looking promising.

Here’s the “50%” you keep going on about.

“ The boss of a drugs company that has agreed to deliver up to 100 million doses of a potential COVID-19 vaccine to the UK has told Sky News there is a more than 50% chance of it reaching patients”

The vaccine has a 50% chance of reaching patients by the end of the year. THAT IS ALL the 50% comes from, nothing to do with it’s effectiveness. It’s Proven to be 100% effective on-top of providing immunity stopping you from catching it again in the future too.

You’re either being very unreasonable with your over the top “it doesn’t work, I’m going to be awkward and complain about wearing a mask” or you’re being unwilling to read the facts, you just read the headline.

I apologise if any of that came across nasty I didn’t mean it to be, but you’re spreading fake news so..[/quote]

Fake news are you for real, don't try and tell me what I am on about don't be so arrogant as to state that. I am not on about reaching 50% of people I am on about 50% effectiveness. At this moment there is no vaccine for Covid 19, they are still in the process of testing them. "Quote"

Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine ‘has only 50-per-cent chance of success’

‘We’re in the bizarre position of wanting Covid to stay, at least for a little while,’ says researcher

Professor Adrian of the Jenner Institute in Oxford has warned against 'over promising' on his lab's coronavirus vaccine

Oxford University scientists working on a coronavirus vaccine have said it may only have a 50-per-cent chance of success.
Project leader Professor Adrian Hill, of the university’s Jenner Institute, said the realization of a working vaccine was far from guaranteed and cautioned against “over promising”, in an interview with The Sunday Telegraph. "Un-Quote"

Here is a link for you, and this professor is not the only one, but I not going to bother to look up the rest of them you can do that yourself. Perhaps instead of telling me to read up about it you should do the reading.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/scie ... 30606.html[/quote]


I agree about vaccine it's not as simple as people make out? Having a vaccine and having a useful one are two different things as I've said cant get vaccine for other viruses in the corvid family this may be no exception... when they officially announce a workable vaccine may consider it until then its all speculation that will have one lots false dawns with wonder drugs.

Alan I still pass people at two metres, there has been a cock up all along with conflicting advice with wearing masks, and social distancing, there is no way that I would get close to people at a football match whether they are wearing masks or not.
We are talking here about a virus that kills, there have been over 45000 deaths in the uk and only two weeks ago the scientists were saying that even if a vaccine is produced it could only be 50% effective. I do not like those odds.

You keep saying “2 weeks ago scientists said this and that”.
Mate, since 2 weeks ago the testing has progressed and the vaccine is looking promising.

Here’s the “50%” you keep going on about.

“ The boss of a drugs company that has agreed to deliver up to 100 million doses of a potential COVID-19 vaccine to the UK has told Sky News there is a more than 50% chance of it reaching patients”

The vaccine has a 50% chance of reaching patients by the end of the year. THAT IS ALL the 50% comes from, nothing to do with it’s effectiveness. It’s Proven to be 100% effective on-top of providing immunity stopping you from catching it again in the future too.

You’re either being very unreasonable with your over the top “it doesn’t work, I’m going to be awkward and complain about wearing a mask” or you’re being unwilling to read the facts, you just read the headline.

I apologise if any of that came across nasty I didn’t mean it to be, but you’re spreading fake news so..[/quote]

Fake news are you for real, don't try and tell me what I am on about don't be so arrogant as to state that. I am not on about reaching 50% of people I am on about 50% effectiveness. At this moment there is no vaccine for Covid 19, they are still in the process of testing them. "Quote"

Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine ‘has only 50-per-cent chance of success’

‘We’re in the bizarre position of wanting Covid to stay, at least for a little while,’ says researcher

Professor Adrian of the Jenner Institute in Oxford has warned against 'over promising' on his lab's coronavirus vaccine

Oxford University scientists working on a coronavirus vaccine have said it may only have a 50-per-cent chance of success.
Project leader Professor Adrian Hill, of the university’s Jenner Institute, said the realization of a working vaccine was far from guaranteed and cautioned against “over promising”, in an interview with The Sunday Telegraph. "Un-Quote"

Here is a link for you, and this professor is not the only one, but I not going to bother to look up the rest of them you can do that yourself. Perhaps instead of telling me to read up about it you should do the reading.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/scie ... 30606.html[/quote]


Pal... I’ve probably read everything you have, and that article you just posted from the independent is explaining that because the virus may die down in the next months, that it will be a rush against time to provide the evidence Needed to get the vaccine passed before September.

What the person says in that article essentially that it’s 50/50 on wether the virus will spread enough for us to be able to provide the evidence needed to get the vaccine approved. It’s a matter of fact that the vaccine works now, look it up. The only thing that you’re quoting (the 50%) is wether we have enough people to test the vaccine on to be able to get it legally approved By the end of the year. Read it properly mate! The success rate you quoted is not the success rate of the vaccine, it’s the success rate of the vaccine being approved!

I assure you, the vaccine has been confirmed to have no side effects, and provides immunity. Please look it up I don’t want to keep re-reading articles just to clarify what is being said.

Alan I still pass people at two metres, there has been a cock up all along with conflicting advice with wearing masks, and social distancing, there is no way that I would get close to people at a football match whether they are wearing masks or not.
We are talking here about a virus that kills, there have been over 45000 deaths in the uk and only two weeks ago the scientists were saying that even if a vaccine is produced it could only be 50% effective. I do not like those odds.

You keep saying “2 weeks ago scientists said this and that”.
Mate, since 2 weeks ago the testing has progressed and the vaccine is looking promising.

Here’s the “50%” you keep going on about.

“ The boss of a drugs company that has agreed to deliver up to 100 million doses of a potential COVID-19 vaccine to the UK has told Sky News there is a more than 50% chance of it reaching patients”

The vaccine has a 50% chance of reaching patients by the end of the year. THAT IS ALL the 50% comes from, nothing to do with it’s effectiveness. It’s Proven to be 100% effective on-top of providing immunity stopping you from catching it again in the future too.

You’re either being very unreasonable with your over the top “it doesn’t work, I’m going to be awkward and complain about wearing a mask” or you’re being unwilling to read the facts, you just read the headline.

I apologise if any of that came across nasty I didn’t mean it to be, but you’re spreading fake news so..

Fake news are you for real, don't try and tell me what I am on about don't be so arrogant as to state that. I am not on about reaching 50% of people I am on about 50% effectiveness. At this moment there is no vaccine for Covid 19, they are still in the process of testing them. "Quote"

Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine ‘has only 50-per-cent chance of success’

‘We’re in the bizarre position of wanting Covid to stay, at least for a little while,’ says researcher

Professor Adrian of the Jenner Institute in Oxford has warned against 'over promising' on his lab's coronavirus vaccine

Oxford University scientists working on a coronavirus vaccine have said it may only have a 50-per-cent chance of success.
Project leader Professor Adrian Hill, of the university’s Jenner Institute, said the realization of a working vaccine was far from guaranteed and cautioned against “over promising”, in an interview with The Sunday Telegraph. "Un-Quote"

Here is a link for you, and this professor is not the only one, but I not going to bother to look up the rest of them you can do that yourself. Perhaps instead of telling me to read up about it you should do the reading.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/scie ... 30606.html[/quote]


Pal... I’ve probably read everything you have, and that article you just posted from the independent is explaining that because the virus may die down in the next months, that it will be a rush against time to provide the evidence Needed to get the vaccine passed before September.

What the person says in that article essentially that it’s 50/50 on wether the virus will spread enough for us to be able to provide the evidence needed to get the vaccine approved. It’s a matter of fact that the vaccine works now, look it up. The only thing that you’re quoting (the 50%) is wether we have enough people to test the vaccine on to be able to get it legally approved By the end of the year. Read it properly mate! The success rate you quoted is not the success rate of the vaccine, it’s the success rate of the vaccine being approved!

I assure you, the vaccine has been confirmed to have no side effects, and provides immunity. Please look it up I don’t want to keep re-reading articles just to clarify what is being said.[/quote]

You are making it up as you go along and are only seeing what you want to see, I have wasted enough time on this I give you can now post to yourself.

Alan I still pass people at two metres, there has been a cock up all along with conflicting advice with wearing masks, and social distancing, there is no way that I would get close to people at a football match whether they are wearing masks or not.
We are talking here about a virus that kills, there have been over 45000 deaths in the uk and only two weeks ago the scientists were saying that even if a vaccine is produced it could only be 50% effective. I do not like those odds.

You keep saying “2 weeks ago scientists said this and that”.
Mate, since 2 weeks ago the testing has progressed and the vaccine is looking promising.

Here’s the “50%” you keep going on about.

“ The boss of a drugs company that has agreed to deliver up to 100 million doses of a potential COVID-19 vaccine to the UK has told Sky News there is a more than 50% chance of it reaching patients”

The vaccine has a 50% chance of reaching patients by the end of the year. THAT IS ALL the 50% comes from, nothing to do with it’s effectiveness. It’s Proven to be 100% effective on-top of providing immunity stopping you from catching it again in the future too.

You’re either being very unreasonable with your over the top “it doesn’t work, I’m going to be awkward and complain about wearing a mask” or you’re being unwilling to read the facts, you just read the headline.

I apologise if any of that came across nasty I didn’t mean it to be, but you’re spreading fake news so..

Fake news are you for real, don't try and tell me what I am on about don't be so arrogant as to state that. I am not on about reaching 50% of people I am on about 50% effectiveness. At this moment there is no vaccine for Covid 19, they are still in the process of testing them. "Quote"

Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine ‘has only 50-per-cent chance of success’

‘We’re in the bizarre position of wanting Covid to stay, at least for a little while,’ says researcher

Professor Adrian of the Jenner Institute in Oxford has warned against 'over promising' on his lab's coronavirus vaccine

Oxford University scientists working on a coronavirus vaccine have said it may only have a 50-per-cent chance of success.
Project leader Professor Adrian Hill, of the university’s Jenner Institute, said the realization of a working vaccine was far from guaranteed and cautioned against “over promising”, in an interview with The Sunday Telegraph. "Un-Quote"

Here is a link for you, and this professor is not the only one, but I not going to bother to look up the rest of them you can do that yourself. Perhaps instead of telling me to read up about it you should do the reading.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/scie ... 30606.html

Pal... I’ve probably read everything you have, and that article you just posted from the independent is explaining that because the virus may die down in the next months, that it will be a rush against time to provide the evidence Needed to get the vaccine passed before September.

What the person says in that article essentially that it’s 50/50 on wether the virus will spread enough for us to be able to provide the evidence needed to get the vaccine approved. It’s a matter of fact that the vaccine works now, look it up. The only thing that you’re quoting (the 50%) is wether we have enough people to test the vaccine on to be able to get it legally approved By the end of the year. Read it properly mate! The success rate you quoted is not the success rate of the vaccine, it’s the success rate of the vaccine being approved!

I assure you, the vaccine has been confirmed to have no side effects, and provides immunity. Please look it up I don’t want to keep re-reading articles just to clarify what is being said.[/quote]

You are making it up as you go along and are only seeing what you want to see, I have wasted enough time on this I give you can now post to yourself.[/quote]

Oh my god....

“It’s a race against the virus disappearing, and against time,” Professor Hill said. “We said earlier in the year that there was an 80-per-cent chance of developing an effective vaccine by September. But at the moment, there’s a 50-per-cent chance that we get no result at all."

PROFESSOR HILL IS SAYING THERE IS A 50% CHANCE THAT THE VACCINE DOESN'T GET ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE IT'S A RACE AGAINST THE VIRUS DISSAPEARING. How do you try and twist it to make it sound like he's saying the vaccine only works 50% of the time. Because that's what you're implying. READ IT MAN. FFS

Can somebody help me out here and tell me I'm not going mad. I don't get why you're reading something that isn't there.

Alan I still pass people at two metres, there has been a cock up all along with conflicting advice with wearing masks, and social distancing, there is no way that I would get close to people at a football match whether they are wearing masks or not.
We are talking here about a virus that kills, there have been over 45000 deaths in the uk and only two weeks ago the scientists were saying that even if a vaccine is produced it could only be 50% effective. I do not like those odds.

You keep saying “2 weeks ago scientists said this and that”.
Mate, since 2 weeks ago the testing has progressed and the vaccine is looking promising.

Here’s the “50%” you keep going on about.

“ The boss of a drugs company that has agreed to deliver up to 100 million doses of a potential COVID-19 vaccine to the UK has told Sky News there is a more than 50% chance of it reaching patients”

The vaccine has a 50% chance of reaching patients by the end of the year. THAT IS ALL the 50% comes from, nothing to do with it’s effectiveness. It’s Proven to be 100% effective on-top of providing immunity stopping you from catching it again in the future too.

You’re either being very unreasonable with your over the top “it doesn’t work, I’m going to be awkward and complain about wearing a mask” or you’re being unwilling to read the facts, you just read the headline.

I apologise if any of that came across nasty I didn’t mean it to be, but you’re spreading fake news so..

Fake news are you for real, don't try and tell me what I am on about don't be so arrogant as to state that. I am not on about reaching 50% of people I am on about 50% effectiveness. At this moment there is no vaccine for Covid 19, they are still in the process of testing them. "Quote"

Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine ‘has only 50-per-cent chance of success’

‘We’re in the bizarre position of wanting Covid to stay, at least for a little while,’ says researcher

Professor Adrian of the Jenner Institute in Oxford has warned against 'over promising' on his lab's coronavirus vaccine

Oxford University scientists working on a coronavirus vaccine have said it may only have a 50-per-cent chance of success.
Project leader Professor Adrian Hill, of the university’s Jenner Institute, said the realization of a working vaccine was far from guaranteed and cautioned against “over promising”, in an interview with The Sunday Telegraph. "Un-Quote"

Here is a link for you, and this professor is not the only one, but I not going to bother to look up the rest of them you can do that yourself. Perhaps instead of telling me to read up about it you should do the reading.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/scie ... 30606.html

Pal... I’ve probably read everything you have, and that article you just posted from the independent is explaining that because the virus may die down in the next months, that it will be a rush against time to provide the evidence Needed to get the vaccine passed before September.

What the person says in that article essentially that it’s 50/50 on wether the virus will spread enough for us to be able to provide the evidence needed to get the vaccine approved. It’s a matter of fact that the vaccine works now, look it up. The only thing that you’re quoting (the 50%) is wether we have enough people to test the vaccine on to be able to get it legally approved By the end of the year. Read it properly mate! The success rate you quoted is not the success rate of the vaccine, it’s the success rate of the vaccine being approved!

I assure you, the vaccine has been confirmed to have no side effects, and provides immunity. Please look it up I don’t want to keep re-reading articles just to clarify what is being said.

You are making it up as you go along and are only seeing what you want to see, I have wasted enough time on this I give you can now post to yourself.[/quote]

Oh my god....

“It’s a race against the virus disappearing, and against time,” Professor Hill said. “We said earlier in the year that there was an 80-per-cent chance of developing an effective vaccine by September. But at the moment, there’s a 50-per-cent chance that we get no result at all."

PROFESSOR HILL IS SAYING THERE IS A 50% CHANCE THAT THE VACCINE DOESN'T GET ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE IT'S A RACE AGAINST THE VIRUS DISSAPEARING. How do you try and twist it to make it sound like he's saying the vaccine only works 50% of the time. Because that's what you're implying. READ IT MAN. FFS

Can somebody help me out here and tell me I'm not going mad. I don't get why you're reading something that isn't there.[/quote]


Just mad for continuing an argument on a football forum ask yourself is it worth it?

Surprised Drakeford hasn't tweeted on this yet to say it won't happen in Wales.

His plan is for fans to be allowed into the car park with the gates of the ground open so they can peer through.

They'll have to wear biohazard suits with motor cycle helmets and keep two metres away from each other.

Alan I still pass people at two metres, there has been a cock up all along with conflicting advice with wearing masks, and social distancing, there is no way that I would get close to people at a football match whether they are wearing masks or not.
We are talking here about a virus that kills, there have been over 45000 deaths in the uk and only two weeks ago the scientists were saying that even if a vaccine is produced it could only be 50% effective. I do not like those odds.

You keep saying “2 weeks ago scientists said this and that”.
Mate, since 2 weeks ago the testing has progressed and the vaccine is looking promising.

Here’s the “50%” you keep going on about.

“ The boss of a drugs company that has agreed to deliver up to 100 million doses of a potential COVID-19 vaccine to the UK has told Sky News there is a more than 50% chance of it reaching patients”

The vaccine has a 50% chance of reaching patients by the end of the year. THAT IS ALL the 50% comes from, nothing to do with it’s effectiveness. It’s Proven to be 100% effective on-top of providing immunity stopping you from catching it again in the future too.

You’re either being very unreasonable with your over the top “it doesn’t work, I’m going to be awkward and complain about wearing a mask” or you’re being unwilling to read the facts, you just read the headline.

I apologise if any of that came across nasty I didn’t mean it to be, but you’re spreading fake news so..

Fake news are you for real, don't try and tell me what I am on about don't be so arrogant as to state that. I am not on about reaching 50% of people I am on about 50% effectiveness. At this moment there is no vaccine for Covid 19, they are still in the process of testing them. "Quote"

Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine ‘has only 50-per-cent chance of success’

‘We’re in the bizarre position of wanting Covid to stay, at least for a little while,’ says researcher

Professor Adrian of the Jenner Institute in Oxford has warned against 'over promising' on his lab's coronavirus vaccine

Oxford University scientists working on a coronavirus vaccine have said it may only have a 50-per-cent chance of success.
Project leader Professor Adrian Hill, of the university’s Jenner Institute, said the realization of a working vaccine was far from guaranteed and cautioned against “over promising”, in an interview with The Sunday Telegraph. "Un-Quote"

Here is a link for you, and this professor is not the only one, but I not going to bother to look up the rest of them you can do that yourself. Perhaps instead of telling me to read up about it you should do the reading.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/scie ... 30606.html

Pal... I’ve probably read everything you have, and that article you just posted from the independent is explaining that because the virus may die down in the next months, that it will be a rush against time to provide the evidence Needed to get the vaccine passed before September.

What the person says in that article essentially that it’s 50/50 on wether the virus will spread enough for us to be able to provide the evidence needed to get the vaccine approved. It’s a matter of fact that the vaccine works now, look it up. The only thing that you’re quoting (the 50%) is wether we have enough people to test the vaccine on to be able to get it legally approved By the end of the year. Read it properly mate! The success rate you quoted is not the success rate of the vaccine, it’s the success rate of the vaccine being approved!

I assure you, the vaccine has been confirmed to have no side effects, and provides immunity. Please look it up I don’t want to keep re-reading articles just to clarify what is being said.

You are making it up as you go along and are only seeing what you want to see, I have wasted enough time on this I give you can now post to yourself.

Oh my god....

“It’s a race against the virus disappearing, and against time,” Professor Hill said. “We said earlier in the year that there was an 80-per-cent chance of developing an effective vaccine by September. But at the moment, there’s a 50-per-cent chance that we get no result at all."

PROFESSOR HILL IS SAYING THERE IS A 50% CHANCE THAT THE VACCINE DOESN'T GET ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE IT'S A RACE AGAINST THE VIRUS DISSAPEARING. How do you try and twist it to make it sound like he's saying the vaccine only works 50% of the time. Because that's what you're implying. READ IT MAN. FFS

Can somebody help me out here and tell me I'm not going mad. I don't get why you're reading something that isn't there.[/quote]


Just mad for continuing an argument on a football forum ask yourself is it worth it? [/quote]

I think it’s worth keeping everyone informed and preventing people from listening to the wrong information, yes. It’s harmful imo

No refunds, f*cking shambles.

Shove it, I want city website to set out their policy in refunds first.

Alan I still pass people at two metres, there has been a cock up all along with conflicting advice with wearing masks, and social distancing, there is no way that I would get close to people at a football match whether they are wearing masks or not.
We are talking here about a virus that kills, there have been over 45000 deaths in the uk and only two weeks ago the scientists were saying that even if a vaccine is produced it could only be 50% effective. I do not like those odds.

You keep saying “2 weeks ago scientists said this and that”.
Mate, since 2 weeks ago the testing has progressed and the vaccine is looking promising.

Here’s the “50%” you keep going on about.

“ The boss of a drugs company that has agreed to deliver up to 100 million doses of a potential COVID-19 vaccine to the UK has told Sky News there is a more than 50% chance of it reaching patients”

The vaccine has a 50% chance of reaching patients by the end of the year. THAT IS ALL the 50% comes from, nothing to do with it’s effectiveness. It’s Proven to be 100% effective on-top of providing immunity stopping you from catching it again in the future too.

You’re either being very unreasonable with your over the top “it doesn’t work, I’m going to be awkward and complain about wearing a mask” or you’re being unwilling to read the facts, you just read the headline.

I apologise if any of that came across nasty I didn’t mean it to be, but you’re spreading fake news so..

Fake news are you for real, don't try and tell me what I am on about don't be so arrogant as to state that. I am not on about reaching 50% of people I am on about 50% effectiveness. At this moment there is no vaccine for Covid 19, they are still in the process of testing them. "Quote"

Coronavirus: Oxford vaccine ‘has only 50-per-cent chance of success’

‘We’re in the bizarre position of wanting Covid to stay, at least for a little while,’ says researcher

Professor Adrian of the Jenner Institute in Oxford has warned against 'over promising' on his lab's coronavirus vaccine

Oxford University scientists working on a coronavirus vaccine have said it may only have a 50-per-cent chance of success.
Project leader Professor Adrian Hill, of the university’s Jenner Institute, said the realization of a working vaccine was far from guaranteed and cautioned against “over promising”, in an interview with The Sunday Telegraph. "Un-Quote"

Here is a link for you, and this professor is not the only one, but I not going to bother to look up the rest of them you can do that yourself. Perhaps instead of telling me to read up about it you should do the reading.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/scie ... 30606.html

Pal... I’ve probably read everything you have, and that article you just posted from the independent is explaining that because the virus may die down in the next months, that it will be a rush against time to provide the evidence Needed to get the vaccine passed before September.

What the person says in that article essentially that it’s 50/50 on wether the virus will spread enough for us to be able to provide the evidence needed to get the vaccine approved. It’s a matter of fact that the vaccine works now, look it up. The only thing that you’re quoting (the 50%) is wether we have enough people to test the vaccine on to be able to get it legally approved By the end of the year. Read it properly mate! The success rate you quoted is not the success rate of the vaccine, it’s the success rate of the vaccine being approved!

I assure you, the vaccine has been confirmed to have no side effects, and provides immunity. Please look it up I don’t want to keep re-reading articles just to clarify what is being said.

You are making it up as you go along and are only seeing what you want to see, I have wasted enough time on this I give you can now post to yourself.

Oh my god....

“It’s a race against the virus disappearing, and against time,” Professor Hill said. “We said earlier in the year that there was an 80-per-cent chance of developing an effective vaccine by September. But at the moment, there’s a 50-per-cent chance that we get no result at all."

PROFESSOR HILL IS SAYING THERE IS A 50% CHANCE THAT THE VACCINE DOESN'T GET ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE IT'S A RACE AGAINST THE VIRUS DISSAPEARING. How do you try and twist it to make it sound like he's saying the vaccine only works 50% of the time. Because that's what you're implying. READ IT MAN. FFS

Can somebody help me out here and tell me I'm not going mad. I don't get why you're reading something that isn't there.

Just mad for continuing an argument on a football forum ask yourself is it worth it? [/quote]

I think it’s worth keeping everyone informed and preventing people from listening to the wrong information, yes. It’s harmful imo[/quote]


Problem is anyone who keeps banging on about same thing for whatever reason ( like getting point across) people forget what original debate is about so lose objectivity! It happens a lot on here! but upto you if got nothing better to do carry on.

No refunds, f*cking shambles.

Shove it, I want city website to set out their policy in refunds first.

It's a free world no one is forcing anyone to take up the offer... may not be right but lots of things are not right in this world....

No refunds, f*cking shambles.

Shove it, I want city website to set out their policy in refunds first.

It's a free world no one is forcing anyone to take up the offer... may not be right but lots of things are not right in this world....

My point is that the club take advantage of people's emotions for this club and are trying it on . Not giving refunds to us is a fu... scam and well done to Vince for putting pressure on the greedy bas.....

Fu... the loyalty boll..... we are just cash cows to these corps and this industry. Fu bending the knee to the greedy bas...... Fight back!!!!!

I just want everyone to be treated with respect and not taken for granted because of ones love and passion for something.

If these clubs are financially struggling then the players can step up and helpout and fu... all this donation to academy boll.... Bloody pathetic to even put that as a option and club was just playing on people's emotions again.

Stay safe everyone and fingers crossed for playoffs.

No refunds, f*cking shambles.

Shove it, I want city website to set out their policy in refunds first.

It's a free world no one is forcing anyone to take up the offer... may not be right but lots of things are not right in this world....

My point is that the club take advantage of people's emotions for this club and are trying it on . Not giving refunds to us is a fu... scam and well done to Vince for putting pressure on the greedy bas.....

Fu... the loyalty boll..... we are just cash cows to these corps and this industry. Fu bending the knee to the greedy bas...... Fight back!!!!!

I just want everyone to be treated with respect and not taken for granted because of ones love and passion for something.

If these clubs are financially struggling then the players can step up and helpout and fu... all this donation to academy boll.... Bloody pathetic to even put that as a option and club was just playing on people's emotions again.

Stay safe everyone and fingers crossed for playoffs.

All clubs take advantage of fan loyalty/passion only need look at price for shirts and change them every year use to be 2 now its 3 or more! Have said it's not right with ST but there again I have enough confidence that situation would change I bought my ST as normal? Unfortunately it is a consumer choice and football is not only business that try to "con"
Its customers into parting with their money .