" James McClean "

Interesting... James McClean has released the following statement.

James McClean refuses to wear a poppy on his football shirt.

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I think hes got a very good point to be fair.

Couldn’t give a f**k he’s a terrorists loving c**t and should f**k off to play for Celtic

Couldn’t give a f**k he’s a terrorists loving c**t and should f**k off to play for Celtic

That is the exact type of reply that causes more problems.
Every action has a reaction and until it stops, hate speech, sectarianism and racism will carry on forever
The man has his own opinions and beliefs , some right and some wrong but abusing him like that makes you just as bad as the kid who was racist to Zaha in my opinion and is why the world is like this.
Pathetic.

I will admit I respect him for sticking to his beliefs all these years despite the abuse he’s faced. Whether or not you agree with his argument that the poppy represents all soldiers or just soldiers from WW1 and WW2 I think his opinion should be respected.
It’s not like he’s breaking decades of tradition either, poppies were only introduced onto Premier League shirts in the 2012/2013 season.
Considering many on here were calling for our own players to refuse to kneel for BLM and calling them sheep and they were being peer pressured into doing it, it’s interesting to the the hypocrisy when McClean gives (in my opinion) a fair reason for not wearing the Poppy yet gets abused for his views.

Probably be in serious trouble at home if he wore one..disagree that players are kneeling tho, the game should transcend politics. Poppies should not be on the shirts either, never been the need.

Couldn’t give a f**k he’s a terrorists loving c**t and should f**k off to play for Celtic

That is the exact type of reply that causes more problems.
Every action has a reaction and until it stops, hate speech, sectarianism and racism will carry on forever
The man has his own opinions and beliefs , some right and some wrong but abusing him like that makes you just as bad as the kid who was racist to Zaha in my opinion and is why the world is like this.
Pathetic.

Go on the streets of Warrington and discuss your Liberal bullshit he supports bombing kids buying Mother’s Day cards. It wasn’t the troubles it was terrorism

I will admit I respect him for sticking to his beliefs all these years despite the abuse he’s faced. Whether or not you agree with his argument that the poppy represents all soldiers or just soldiers from WW1 and WW2 I think his opinion should be respected.
It’s not like he’s breaking decades of tradition either, poppies were only introduced onto Premier League shirts in the 2012/2013 season.
Considering many on here were calling for our own players to refuse to kneel for BLM and calling them sheep and they were being peer pressured into doing it, it’s interesting to the the hypocrisy when McClean gives (in my opinion) a fair reason for not wearing the Poppy yet gets abused for his views.

it goes further than the poppy with Mclean though..
he has no respect what so ever for the country he plays and earns a fortune in and lives in , wastes no opportunity to show it . respect ? blokes a flat out hypocrite..id respect his strong opinions if they extended to plying his trade elsewhere. if you feel that strongly dont take the money..

Might have some sympathy for the guy if he didn’t go out of his way to court controversy

Support of IRA, wearing a balaclava, refusal to were a poppy and endlessly praising IRA murderers etc, etc

Also the fact he makes a fantastic living in the Country he is supposed to hate and from fans he detests makes him a complete hypocrite

The ‘slightest thing’. The poor man is as thick as Hamilton.

Couldn’t give a f**k he’s a terrorists loving c**t and should f**k off to play for Celtic

That is the exact type of reply that causes more problems.
Every action has a reaction and until it stops, hate speech, sectarianism and racism will carry on forever
The man has his own opinions and beliefs , some right and some wrong but abusing him like that makes you just as bad as the kid who was racist to Zaha in my opinion and is why the world is like this.
Pathetic.

Go on the streets of Warrington and discuss your Liberal bullshit he supports bombing kids buying Mother’s Day cards. It wasn’t the troubles it was terrorism

Did I ever say I agreed with him.
I said he is entitled to his own opinion .

The point I was making is whilst people like him publicly declare beliefs then there will always be someone like you who will bite back. The hate just goes round in circles and will never stop. It is the exact same thing with the racism problem, a point proven by your post which is full of hatred for somebody you don't know , have never met and never talked to to find out his true feelings and reasons for his beliefs

This is his quote from 2015:

In 2015, McClean explained his stance in the West Brom matchday programme.

“People say I am being disrespectful but don’t ask why I choose not to wear it,” McClean wrote.

“If the poppy was simply about World War One and Two victims alone, I’d wear it without a problem.

“I would wear it every day of the year if that was the thing but it doesn’t. It stands for all the conflicts that Britain has been involved in. Because of the history where I come from in Derry, I cannot wear something that represents that.”

So is his stance on this subject any different to those who won't support back live matter ?
More would support it if it was ALL lives but its not.

I dont agree with him or his stance but then again I have not got the same personal grievance he has with the armed forces for a certain part of history like bloody Sunday. If I did would my view on the poppy be different ?

Couldn’t give a f**k he’s a terrorists loving c**t and should f**k off to play for Celtic

That is the exact type of reply that causes more problems.
Every action has a reaction and until it stops, hate speech, sectarianism and racism will carry on forever
The man has his own opinions and beliefs , some right and some wrong but abusing him like that makes you just as bad as the kid who was racist to Zaha in my opinion and is why the world is like this.
Pathetic.

Go on the streets of Warrington and discuss your Liberal bullshit he supports bombing kids buying Mother’s Day cards. It wasn’t the troubles it was terrorism

Did I ever say I agreed with him.
I said he is entitled to his own opinion .

The point I was making is whilst people like him publicly declare beliefs then there will always be someone like you who will bite back. The hate just goes round in circles and will never stop. It is the exact same thing with the racism problem, a point proven by your post which is full of hatred for somebody you don't know , have never met and never talked to to find out his true feelings and reasons for his beliefs

This is his quote from 2015:

In 2015, McClean explained his stance in the West Brom matchday programme.

“People say I am being disrespectful but don’t ask why I choose not to wear it,” McClean wrote.

“If the poppy was simply about World War One and Two victims alone, I’d wear it without a problem.

“I would wear it every day of the year if that was the thing but it doesn’t. It stands for all the conflicts that Britain has been involved in. Because of the history where I come from in Derry, I cannot wear something that represents that.”

So is his stance on this subject any different to those who won't support back live matter ?
More would support it if it was ALL lives but its not.

I dont agree with him or his stance but then again I have not got the same personal grievance he has with the armed forces for a certain part of history like bloody Sunday. If I did would my view on the poppy be different ?

i doubt if even 2 people read and thought it any more than a childlike assumption that the British are thicker than him....
its not just the poppy...if he had any self respect or principals he would go home... want to live somewhere respect the traditions, the anthem and do not support terrorist organisations. or dont go there.. immigrants should be coming here to fit in not determined to not integrate.. teaching his kids history at home in a ski mask and posting the video ffs...on another thread you want parents charged for a childs behaviour and make the point about responsibility.... this fella should be top of the charged for teaching your kids to be cunts list...

Couldn’t give a f**k he’s a terrorists loving c**t and should f**k off to play for Celtic

That is the exact type of reply that causes more problems.
Every action has a reaction and until it stops, hate speech, sectarianism and racism will carry on forever
The man has his own opinions and beliefs , some right and some wrong but abusing him like that makes you just as bad as the kid who was racist to Zaha in my opinion and is why the world is like this.
Pathetic.

Whilst everyone is entitled to an opinion, he clearly hates the English due to his political beliefs yet takes the Queens Shilling, therefore he is a hypocrite

Couldn’t give a f**k he’s a terrorists loving c**t and should f**k off to play for Celtic

That is the exact type of reply that causes more problems.
Every action has a reaction and until it stops, hate speech, sectarianism and racism will carry on forever
The man has his own opinions and beliefs , some right and some wrong but abusing him like that makes you just as bad as the kid who was racist to Zaha in my opinion and is why the world is like this.
Pathetic.

Go on the streets of Warrington and discuss your Liberal bullshit he supports bombing kids buying Mother’s Day cards. It wasn’t the troubles it was terrorism

Did I ever say I agreed with him.
I said he is entitled to his own opinion .

The point I was making is whilst people like him publicly declare beliefs then there will always be someone like you who will bite back. The hate just goes round in circles and will never stop. It is the exact same thing with the racism problem, a point proven by your post which is full of hatred for somebody you don't know , have never met and never talked to to find out his true feelings and reasons for his beliefs

This is his quote from 2015:

In 2015, McClean explained his stance in the West Brom matchday programme.

“People say I am being disrespectful but don’t ask why I choose not to wear it,” McClean wrote.

“If the poppy was simply about World War One and Two victims alone, I’d wear it without a problem.

“I would wear it every day of the year if that was the thing but it doesn’t. It stands for all the conflicts that Britain has been involved in. Because of the history where I come from in Derry, I cannot wear something that represents that.”

So is his stance on this subject any different to those who won't support back live matter ?
More would support it if it was ALL lives but its not.

I dont agree with him or his stance but then again I have not got the same personal grievance he has with the armed forces for a certain part of history like bloody Sunday. If I did would my view on the poppy be different ?

i doubt if even 2 people read and thought it any more than a childlike assumption that the British are thicker than him....
its not just the poppy...if he had any self respect or principals he would go home... want to live somewhere respect the traditions, the anthem and do not support terrorist organisations. or dont go there.. immigrants should be coming here to fit in not determined to not integrate.. teaching his kids history at home in a ski mask and posting the video ffs...on another thread you want parents charged for a childs behaviour and make the point about responsibility.... this fella should be top of the charged for teaching your kids to be cunts list...

The problem is everybody is being a hypocrite and are as bad as each other. How is him not wearing a poppy any different to anybody on here not kneeling or raising a fist to black lives matter ?
That was also a symbol which a lot of people rejected and got abused for because there opiniln was different to the main stream.
Its a personal choice.
I dont agree with his beliefs whatsoever and wear a poppy with pride ( He is entitled to think and do what he wants ) but people are stating he hates the British people with Zero proof.
All I can see is that he has a problem with supporting the Armed forces because of a certain event that happened in his home town where a lot of unarmed people lost there lives. ( who was right and wrong is irrelevant ) Nowhere can I see hom stating he has a problem with British people, on the contrary he actually says in his interview he respects everyone who gave up lives in the world wars bkth British and Irish and would wear the poppy if it was for that alone. He won't wear it because of Bloody Sunday.

Telling him to f*ck off home or go to celtic is just sectarianism and not helpful whatsoever

Couldn’t give a f**k he’s a terrorists loving c**t and should f**k off to play for Celtic

That is the exact type of reply that causes more problems.
Every action has a reaction and until it stops, hate speech, sectarianism and racism will carry on forever
The man has his own opinions and beliefs , some right and some wrong but abusing him like that makes you just as bad as the kid who was racist to Zaha in my opinion and is why the world is like this.
Pathetic.

Whilst everyone is entitled to an opinion, he clearly hates the English due to his political beliefs yet takes the Queens Shilling, therefore he is a hypocrite

What political beliefs are they ?

Couldn’t give a f**k he’s a terrorists loving c**t and should f**k off to play for Celtic

That is the exact type of reply that causes more problems.
Every action has a reaction and until it stops, hate speech, sectarianism and racism will carry on forever
The man has his own opinions and beliefs , some right and some wrong but abusing him like that makes you just as bad as the kid who was racist to Zaha in my opinion and is why the world is like this.
Pathetic.

Go on the streets of Warrington and discuss your Liberal bullshit he supports bombing kids buying Mother’s Day cards. It wasn’t the troubles it was terrorism

Did I ever say I agreed with him.
I said he is entitled to his own opinion .

The point I was making is whilst people like him publicly declare beliefs then there will always be someone like you who will bite back. The hate just goes round in circles and will never stop. It is the exact same thing with the racism problem, a point proven by your post which is full of hatred for somebody you don't know , have never met and never talked to to find out his true feelings and reasons for his beliefs

This is his quote from 2015:

In 2015, McClean explained his stance in the West Brom matchday programme.

“People say I am being disrespectful but don’t ask why I choose not to wear it,” McClean wrote.

“If the poppy was simply about World War One and Two victims alone, I’d wear it without a problem.

“I would wear it every day of the year if that was the thing but it doesn’t. It stands for all the conflicts that Britain has been involved in. Because of the history where I come from in Derry, I cannot wear something that represents that.”

So is his stance on this subject any different to those who won't support back live matter ?
More would support it if it was ALL lives but its not.

I dont agree with him or his stance but then again I have not got the same personal grievance he has with the armed forces for a certain part of history like bloody Sunday. If I did would my view on the poppy be different ?

i doubt if even 2 people read and thought it any more than a childlike assumption that the British are thicker than him....
its not just the poppy...if he had any self respect or principals he would go home... want to live somewhere respect the traditions, the anthem and do not support terrorist organisations. or dont go there.. immigrants should be coming here to fit in not determined to not integrate.. teaching his kids history at home in a ski mask and posting the video ffs...on another thread you want parents charged for a childs behaviour and make the point about responsibility.... this fella should be top of the charged for teaching your kids to be cunts list...

The problem is everybody is being a hypocrite and are as bad as each other. How is him not wearing a poppy any different to anybody on here not kneeling or raising a fist to black lives matter ?
That was also a symbol which a lot of people rejected and got abused for because there opiniln was different to the main stream.
Its a personal choice.
I dont agree with his beliefs whatsoever and wear a poppy with pride ( He is entitled to think and do what he wants ) but people are stating he hates the British people with Zero proof.
All I can see is that he has a problem with supporting the Armed forces because of a certain event that happened in his home town where a lot of unarmed people lost there lives. ( who was right and wrong is irrelevant ) Nowhere can I see hom stating he has a problem with British people, on the contrary he actually says in his interview he respects everyone who gave up lives in the world wars bkth British and Irish and would wear the poppy if it was for that alone. He won't wear it because of Bloody Sunday.

Telling him to f*ck off home or go to celtic is just sectarianism and not helpful whatsoever

Do you even know what sectarianism is? What part of f@ck off home or just go to Celtic is sectarian. BTW the brave Irishmen who joined the fight against (real) Nazism were charged with desertion when they returned to Ireland.

Couldn’t give a f**k he’s a terrorists loving c**t and should f**k off to play for Celtic

That is the exact type of reply that causes more problems.
Every action has a reaction and until it stops, hate speech, sectarianism and racism will carry on forever
The man has his own opinions and beliefs , some right and some wrong but abusing him like that makes you just as bad as the kid who was racist to Zaha in my opinion and is why the world is like this.
Pathetic.

Go on the streets of Warrington and discuss your Liberal bullshit he supports bombing kids buying Mother’s Day cards. It wasn’t the troubles it was terrorism

Did I ever say I agreed with him.
I said he is entitled to his own opinion .

The point I was making is whilst people like him publicly declare beliefs then there will always be someone like you who will bite back. The hate just goes round in circles and will never stop. It is the exact same thing with the racism problem, a point proven by your post which is full of hatred for somebody you don't know , have never met and never talked to to find out his true feelings and reasons for his beliefs

This is his quote from 2015:

In 2015, McClean explained his stance in the West Brom matchday programme.

“People say I am being disrespectful but don’t ask why I choose not to wear it,” McClean wrote.

“If the poppy was simply about World War One and Two victims alone, I’d wear it without a problem.

“I would wear it every day of the year if that was the thing but it doesn’t. It stands for all the conflicts that Britain has been involved in. Because of the history where I come from in Derry, I cannot wear something that represents that.”

So is his stance on this subject any different to those who won't support back live matter ?
More would support it if it was ALL lives but its not.

I dont agree with him or his stance but then again I have not got the same personal grievance he has with the armed forces for a certain part of history like bloody Sunday. If I did would my view on the poppy be different ?

i doubt if even 2 people read and thought it any more than a childlike assumption that the British are thicker than him....
its not just the poppy...if he had any self respect or principals he would go home... want to live somewhere respect the traditions, the anthem and do not support terrorist organisations. or dont go there.. immigrants should be coming here to fit in not determined to not integrate.. teaching his kids history at home in a ski mask and posting the video ffs...on another thread you want parents charged for a childs behaviour and make the point about responsibility.... this fella should be top of the charged for teaching your kids to be cunts list...

The problem is everybody is being a hypocrite and are as bad as each other. How is him not wearing a poppy any different to anybody on here not kneeling or raising a fist to black lives matter ?
That was also a symbol which a lot of people rejected and got abused for because there opiniln was different to the main stream.
Its a personal choice.
I dont agree with his beliefs whatsoever and wear a poppy with pride ( He is entitled to think and do what he wants ) but people are stating he hates the British people with Zero proof.
All I can see is that he has a problem with supporting the Armed forces because of a certain event that happened in his home town where a lot of unarmed people lost there lives. ( who was right and wrong is irrelevant ) Nowhere can I see hom stating he has a problem with British people, on the contrary he actually says in his interview he respects everyone who gave up lives in the world wars bkth British and Irish and would wear the poppy if it was for that alone. He won't wear it because of Bloody Sunday.

Telling him to f*ck off home or go to celtic is just sectarianism and not helpful whatsoever

Do you even know what sectarianism is? What part of f@ck off home or just go to Celtic is sectarian. BTW the brave Irishmen who joined the fight against (real) Nazism were charged with desertion when they returned to Ireland.

Sectarianism _ a widely varied subject which means many things to many different people. But is a term used for predjudice, descrimination or hatred within a group of people . Of which the original poster telling him to f**k off to a team in a different country who's fans are known to support the IRA and have a sectarian history.
The whole tone of his comment was wrong and it's obvious what he meant.
Celtic are known for protesting the poppy amongst it's fans. Their fans have been investigated for pro IRA chants in the past so yes his post did have sectarian undertones.

I didn't realise James McLean made the decision to charge the troops returning with disertion. He's had a varied career that boy he has aged well.
Do you have any direct quotes from him mentioning this and his views on it ?

The whole point of this is the fact people have a go at the guy without knowing any real facts about him or his views other than the fact he CHOOSES which is his right not to wear a poppy on remeberance day. ( I don't agree with that stance ) Just the same as a lot of people CHOSE not to kneel for black lives matter . Is it fair to judge him without actually knowing?
He might be a right horrible fucker who hates everything British and supports terrorists. Nobody knows they are just jumping on a hate bandwagon against him because he is exercising his right to free speech but they have a different opinion because they do not have the same personal circumstances as him .

Real sectarianism is what’s going on between Shias and Sunnis not the tribalism that exists in Scotland.
BTW is by the way, ie: not necessarily referring to exactly what’s being discussed.

I 100% respect McLean as a man who stood by his principals. Don't ha e to agree with those principals to respect the fact he is man enough to stand by what his beliefs are despite by against the grain of society.

The point he makes in the above post is also very valid. Same crime, very different police responses. Why?

I 100% respect McLean as a man who stood by his principals. Don't ha e to agree with those principals to respect the fact he is man enough to stand by what his beliefs are despite by against the grain of society.

The point he makes in the above post is also very valid. Same crime, very different police responses. Why?

Disliking a player because he’s black is racism
Disliking McLean because he dons a balaclava, to “teach” his kids about history is good judgement.

Just to clarify I couldn’t care less if a man decides not to wear a poppy it’s a personal choice and what I believe the reason Britain stood against the Nazis so people could make free choices. I will never condone the bombing of British people for political beliefs which is what James McLean supports and promotes with his support for the IRA no better than Islamic terrorists

Stinking filthy dirty spineless murderers AND anyone that says different needs to wake up.

Killing innocents is disgusting.

Couldn’t give a f**k he’s a terrorists loving c**t and should f**k off to play for Celtic

That is the exact type of reply that causes more problems.
Every action has a reaction and until it stops, hate speech, sectarianism and racism will carry on forever
The man has his own opinions and beliefs , some right and some wrong but abusing him like that makes you just as bad as the kid who was racist to Zaha in my opinion and is why the world is like this.
Pathetic.

Go on the streets of Warrington and discuss your Liberal bullshit he supports bombing kids buying Mother’s Day cards. It wasn’t the troubles it was terrorism

Did I ever say I agreed with him.
I said he is entitled to his own opinion .

The point I was making is whilst people like him publicly declare beliefs then there will always be someone like you who will bite back. The hate just goes round in circles and will never stop. It is the exact same thing with the racism problem, a point proven by your post which is full of hatred for somebody you don't know , have never met and never talked to to find out his true feelings and reasons for his beliefs

This is his quote from 2015:

In 2015, McClean explained his stance in the West Brom matchday programme.

“People say I am being disrespectful but don’t ask why I choose not to wear it,” McClean wrote.

“If the poppy was simply about World War One and Two victims alone, I’d wear it without a problem.

“I would wear it every day of the year if that was the thing but it doesn’t. It stands for all the conflicts that Britain has been involved in. Because of the history where I come from in Derry, I cannot wear something that represents that.”

So is his stance on this subject any different to those who won't support back live matter ?
More would support it if it was ALL lives but its not.

I dont agree with him or his stance but then again I have not got the same personal grievance he has with the armed forces for a certain part of history like bloody Sunday. If I did would my view on the poppy be different ?

i doubt if even 2 people read and thought it any more than a childlike assumption that the British are thicker than him....
its not just the poppy...if he had any self respect or principals he would go home... want to live somewhere respect the traditions, the anthem and do not support terrorist organisations. or dont go there.. immigrants should be coming here to fit in not determined to not integrate.. teaching his kids history at home in a ski mask and posting the video ffs...on another thread you want parents charged for a childs behaviour and make the point about responsibility.... this fella should be top of the charged for teaching your kids to be cunts list...

The problem is everybody is being a hypocrite and are as bad as each other. How is him not wearing a poppy any different to anybody on here not kneeling or raising a fist to black lives matter ?
That was also a symbol which a lot of people rejected and got abused for because there opiniln was different to the main stream.
Its a personal choice.
I dont agree with his beliefs whatsoever and wear a poppy with pride ( He is entitled to think and do what he wants ) but people are stating he hates the British people with Zero proof.
All I can see is that he has a problem with supporting the Armed forces because of a certain event that happened in his home town where a lot of unarmed people lost there lives. ( who was right and wrong is irrelevant ) Nowhere can I see hom stating he has a problem with British people, on the contrary he actually says in his interview he respects everyone who gave up lives in the world wars bkth British and Irish and would wear the poppy if it was for that alone. He won't wear it because of Bloody Sunday.

Telling him to f*ck off home or go to celtic is just sectarianism and not helpful whatsoever

Do you even know what sectarianism is? What part of f@ck off home or just go to Celtic is sectarian. BTW the brave Irishmen who joined the fight against (real) Nazism were charged with desertion when they returned to Ireland.

Sectarianism _ a widely varied subject which means many things to many different people. But is a term used for predjudice, descrimination or hatred within a group of people . Of which the original poster telling him to f**k off to a team in a different country who's fans are known to support the IRA and have a sectarian history.
The whole tone of his comment was wrong and it's obvious what he meant.
Celtic are known for protesting the poppy amongst it's fans. Their fans have been investigated for pro IRA chants in the past so yes his post did have sectarian undertones.

I didn't realise James McLean made the decision to charge the troops returning with disertion. He's had a varied career that boy he has aged well.
Do you have any direct quotes from him mentioning this and his views on it ?

The whole point of this is the fact people have a go at the guy without knowing any real facts about him or his views other than the fact he CHOOSES which is his right not to wear a poppy on remeberance day. ( I don't agree with that stance ) Just the same as a lot of people CHOSE not to kneel for black lives matter . Is it fair to judge him without actually knowing?
He might be a right horrible fucker who hates everything British and supports terrorists. Nobody knows they are just jumping on a hate bandwagon against him because he is exercising his right to free speech but they have a different opinion because they do not have the same personal circumstances as him .

No I’m confused am I racist or sectarianist?

Stinking filthy dirty spineless murderers AND anyone that says different needs to wake up.

Killing innocents is disgusting.

I imagine you would also use this description for the British soldiers that killed 14 unarmed civilians in Derry? Or the same regiment that killed another 11 civilians in Ballymurphy?

I 100% respect McLean as a man who stood by his principals. Don't ha e to agree with those principals to respect the fact he is man enough to stand by what his beliefs are despite by against the grain of society.

The point he makes in the above post is also very valid. Same crime, very different police responses. Why?

Disliking a player because he’s black is racism
Disliking McLean because he dons a balaclava, to “teach” his kids about history is good judgement.

Aye that is fair enough, like I say I don't agree with or like McLean, or in fact racists for that matter.

But if we're arresting 12 year old kids for posting racist mean words on the internet at Zaha but not for sending mean words (and death threats) at James McLean on the same platform it suggests the authorities have started judging the severity of exact same crime and whether it is worth them acting upon that crime solely based on who the victim is not what the crime is.

We've been here before in history many times. It never ends well.

Though the Police nabbed the guy whos sent threats to Mclean..not sure what came of it.

Has anyone been held accountable for the Black supremacy stuff going on in football right now ? No. It works both ways.
Racist behaviour is happening from all colours right now fuelled by players being racist themselves.

Stinking filthy dirty spineless murderers AND anyone that says different needs to wake up.

Killing innocents is disgusting.

I imagine you would also use this description for the British soldiers that killed 14 unarmed civilians in Derry? Or the same regiment that killed another 11 civilians in Ballymurphy?

It depends if you believe the army was fired upon. They most likely were. When my battalion was in Belfast an innocent Catholic youth was killed and one wounded at a mobile VCP (checkpoint) the fact that they had tried to run over a squaddie manning the VCP at high speed in the stolen car they were in didn't seem to come into it on the republican side only that a soldier had fired a single round hitting the driver, killing him and hitting another in the back seat. Brits shooting innocent people was very good propaganda and brought in more money for the cause from NORAID. Obviously there was no mention of them attempting to kill anyone in a stolen car or not having a driving licence because they weren't old enough in An Phoblacht only that they were traveling in a car. Or the times when gunmen would hide in a mob to open fire at the Army/RUC. A bit like Ballymurphy and the Bog.

Stinking filthy dirty spineless murderers AND anyone that says different needs to wake up.

Killing innocents is disgusting.

I imagine you would also use this description for the British soldiers that killed 14 unarmed civilians in Derry? Or the same regiment that killed another 11 civilians in Ballymurphy?

It depends if you believe the army was fired upon. They most likely were. When my battalion was in Belfast an innocent Catholic youth was killed and one wounded at a mobile VCP (checkpoint) the fact that they had tried to run over a squaddie manning the VCP at high speed in the stolen car they were in didn't seem to come into it on the republican side only that a soldier had fired a single round hitting the driver, killing him and hitting another in the back seat. Brits shooting innocent people was very good propaganda and brought in more money for the cause from NORAID. Obviously there was no mention of them attempting to kill anyone in a stolen car or not having a driving licence because they weren't old enough in An Phoblacht only that they were traveling in a car. Or the times when gunmen would hide in a mob to open fire at the Army/RUC. A bit like Ballymurphy and the Bog.

It’s pretty widely accepted that the civilians killed on Bloody Sunday were unarmed with substantial evidence to back up these claims. Not only were they unarmed but several were shot in the back as they ran away and others were shot trying to give medical aid to the wounded.

I won’t deny that soldiers were targeted and shot at in Ireland but it’s these soldiers in this particular incident I’m wondering if Foghorn has the same anger towards.

Stinking filthy dirty spineless murderers AND anyone that says different needs to wake up.

Killing innocents is disgusting.

I imagine you would also use this description for the British soldiers that killed 14 unarmed civilians in Derry? Or the same regiment that killed another 11 civilians in Ballymurphy?

Absolutely. Attacking and killing any innocent person is deplorable.

More and more we are seeing attacks carried out in the name of whatever cause these terrorists claim is justifiable.

Premeditated murder through bombs, guns, knives or whatever they choose as their method to kill is not the answer but unfortunately the preferred choice.