Swansea city

With our run ins being similar I can see us just piping the swans to 6th spot and would be sweet to be the team to stop them making the playoffs. However it could easily be the other way around

With our run ins being similar I can see us just piping the swans to 6th spot and would be sweet to be the team to stop them making the playoffs. However it could easily be the other way around

It’s the championship mate. Anything can happen.

With our run ins being similar I can see us just piping the swans to 6th spot and would be sweet to be the team to stop them making the playoffs. However it could easily be the other way around

It’s the championship mate. Anything can happen.

It certainly can and usually does

There are more than 2 teams who could get that 6th spot .

We are going to be in the top 6

PNE - Back in the mix .

With our run ins being similar I can see us just piping the swans to 6th spot and would be sweet to be the team to stop them making the playoffs. However it could easily be the other way around

Think there's far too much to unfold yet and any one of four or five teams might yet get that last spot; but hopefully us

Nice to see you spelled the headline as Swansea followed by a small 'c'; well in keeping with Wales' capital 'C' being 48 miles to their east!

With our run ins being similar I can see us just piping the swans to 6th spot and would be sweet to be the team to stop them making the playoffs. However it could easily be the other way around

Think there's far too much to unfold yet and any one of four or five teams might yet get that last spot; but hopefully us

Nice to see you spelled the headline as Swansea followed by a small 'c'; well in keeping with Wales' capital 'C' being 48 miles to their east!

Agreed, plenty could change over next 2 games,but it's exiting to be in the mix,although some who thought we would be fighting relegation, must be peeved,as they have been proven to be wrong Harris wasn't my perogative choice to manage us,but credit where it's due,in the time he's been here,we've had what,5 defeats is it? In 30 games,great form imho,let's see where we are a after fulham game eh? C'mon city we have climbed the table slowly,but surely. let's get over the line.

My honest opinion is neither of us are good enough to go up.

My honest opinion is neither of us are good enough to go up.

nobody ever is mate...if the players were good enough they would be playing there already , and more often than not promoted teams go up with a few players that are not even theirs...

My honest opinion is neither of us are good enough to go up.

I agree and tbh I wouldn’t be disappointed with another season building on what Harris has started before going into the Prem so it wouldn’t devastate me if we just missed out

My honest opinion is neither of us are good enough to go up.

nobody ever is mate...if the players were good enough they would be playing there already , and more often than not promoted teams go up with a few players that are not even theirs...

Well for contrast, when we went up the first time we had:-

Ashley Williams, Neil Taylor, Ben Davies, Angel Rangel, Joe Allen, Scott Sinclair, Nathan Dyer and Leon Britton. We had a Premier League quality squad and that was obvious at the time.

Comparing that squad to both of ours isn't even a comparison. If either of us manage to go up then next year isn't going to be pretty, unless there is heavy investment - and I mean heavy.

My honest opinion is neither of us are good enough to go up.

nobody ever is mate...if the players were good enough they would be playing there already , and more often than not promoted teams go up with a few players that are not even theirs...

Well for contrast, when we went up the first time we had:-

Ashley Williams, Neil Taylor, Ben Davies, Angel Rangel, Joe Allen, Scott Sinclair, Nathan Dyer and Leon Britton. We had a Premier League quality squad and that was obvious at the time.

Comparing that squad to both of ours isn't even a comparison. If either of us manage to go up then next year isn't going to be pretty, unless there is heavy investment - and I mean heavy.

In the current climate investment isn’t going to happen. Didn’t for us 2 years ago even so doubt Tan would spend even the 35 million he did last time, plus you could take 10 for Bobby Reid off that. A pittance in this market. Can’t see the hedge fund forking out either....

My honest opinion is neither of us are good enough to go up.

I totally agree! One of the current top 4 will win the playoffs. Definite gulf in class between top 4 and 5/6 teams. I’d still take it, but I reckon we’ll get dicked like when we played West Ham the last time we got into the play offs.

It will also be either Brentford or Fulham first up in the play-offs for whoever makes it into 6th.

Between us both, we have had 8 attempts combined at beating them this season and not managed it once. The likelihood is the 6th placed team will need to beat them both in succession.

Very unlikely. Very.

My honest opinion is neither of us are good enough to go up.

nobody ever is mate...if the players were good enough they would be playing there already , and more often than not promoted teams go up with a few players that are not even theirs...

Well for contrast, when we went up the first time we had:-

Ashley Williams, Neil Taylor, Ben Davies, Angel Rangel, Joe Allen, Scott Sinclair, Nathan Dyer and Leon Britton. We had a Premier League quality squad and that was obvious at the time.

Comparing that squad to both of ours isn't even a comparison. If either of us manage to go up then next year isn't going to be pretty, unless there is heavy investment - and I mean heavy.

non of who had played at that level. its no good pointing to them now AFTER they have achieved, at the point in time they were playing for what everyone considered a mid table championship team .. you had a good season mate, but you really were the surprise package that season . as you were in the Prem { favourites to go down } its not like other clubs were knocking the door down to buy those players because as sure as night follows day tou would have sold them...

Please don't let the Jack's go above us ,we ll never live it down

non of who had played at that level. its no good pointing to them now AFTER they have achieved, at the point in time they were playing for what everyone considered a mid table championship team .. you had a good season mate, but you really were the surprise package that season . as you were in the Prem { favourites to go down } its not like other clubs were knocking the door down to buy those players because as sure as night follows day tou would have sold them...

We disagree then. Not sure what you mean regarding pointing to them now? We have been pointing to them for over a decade as some of the greatest players we have ever had at the club, that was long before anything was achieved.

I think it was obvious to anyone who bothered to look, the talent levels at the club was overwhelming and it was only a natural trend given the seasons just gone. We finished 8th and 7th respectively so a 3rd place finish the following season was hardly a shock. (btw we hadn't finished lower than 8th with that team so your assertion ''everyone'' considered us a mid table championship team is wrong... or if correct then that is a damning indictment of the levels of knowledge these people you listen to have).

I also disagree we were the surprise package, maybe a surprise for those that were ignorant to what was going on at the club and the talent we possessed, but they have never been the barometer for anything in life. These players had been consistent for a decade and been playing clubs off the park for fun - so anybody writing us off just did not have any knowledge of our club, to be blunt, and may have been the result of lazy journalism and punditry - who changed their tune almost instantly, as expected.

Looking at our squad now, someone like Joe Rodon is obviously a Premier League quality player - he doesn't need to have played there in order to make that assessment. So to put that in perspective, think Joe Rodon and multiply it by 7 - that was the position we were in regarding the time period we are discussing. We were geared for success right throughout the club, which we duly showed.

Neither of our current squads even come close. Couldn't even be uttered in the same breath. Not sure how it can even be an argument, you are usually sensible.

Judging by coopers latest interview I honestly believe that Swansea are going the way of wigan

Judging by coopers latest interview I honestly believe that Swansea are going the way of wigan

Likely more clubs will go the same way

Judging by coopers latest interview I honestly believe that Swansea are going the way of wigan

In terms of what?

His demeanor and comments regarding the departing 10 players.

His demeanor and comments regarding the departing 10 players.

Every club has departing players, contracts have had to be temporarily extended to see the season out. For example, 5 of those 10 are loan players.

Van der Hoorn, Dyer, Routledge and Naughton are the first team players that have their contracts running out. None of which are regular starters (except VdH).

non of who had played at that level. its no good pointing to them now AFTER they have achieved, at the point in time they were playing for what everyone considered a mid table championship team .. you had a good season mate, but you really were the surprise package that season . as you were in the Prem { favourites to go down } its not like other clubs were knocking the door down to buy those players because as sure as night follows day tou would have sold them...

We disagree then. Not sure what you mean regarding pointing to them now? We have been pointing to them for over a decade as some of the greatest players we have ever had at the club, that was long before anything was achieved.

I think it was obvious to anyone who bothered to look, the talent levels at the club was overwhelming and it was only a natural trend given the seasons just gone. We finished 8th and 7th respectively so a 3rd place finish the following season was hardly a shock. (btw we hadn't finished lower than 8th with that team so your assertion ''everyone'' considered us a mid table championship team is wrong... or if correct then that is a damning indictment of the levels of knowledge these people you listen to have).

I also disagree we were the surprise package, maybe a surprise for those that were ignorant to what was going on at the club and the talent we possessed, but they have never been the barometer for anything in life. These players had been consistent for a decade and been playing clubs off the park for fun - so anybody writing us off just did not have any knowledge of our club, to be blunt, and may have been the result of lazy journalism and punditry - who changed their tune almost instantly, as expected.

Looking at our squad now, someone like Joe Rodon is obviously a Premier League quality player - he doesn't need to have played there in order to make that assessment. So to put that in perspective, think Joe Rodon and multiply it by 7 - that was the position we were in regarding the time period we are discussing. We were geared for success right throughout the club, which we duly showed.

Neither of our current squads even come close. Couldn't even be uttered in the same breath. Not sure how it can even be an argument, you are usually sensible.

You also had a top class manager at that time bringing out the best in those players, most of whom were decent. Like you say, you probably only have one or two of that quality now so you would struggle if you went up. Last time, the quality of those players kept you there quite comfortably with decent additions like bony and Michu.

non of who had played at that level. its no good pointing to them now AFTER they have achieved, at the point in time they were playing for what everyone considered a mid table championship team .. you had a good season mate, but you really were the surprise package that season . as you were in the Prem { favourites to go down } its not like other clubs were knocking the door down to buy those players because as sure as night follows day tou would have sold them...

We disagree then. Not sure what you mean regarding pointing to them now? We have been pointing to them for over a decade as some of the greatest players we have ever had at the club, that was long before anything was achieved.

I think it was obvious to anyone who bothered to look, the talent levels at the club was overwhelming and it was only a natural trend given the seasons just gone. We finished 8th and 7th respectively so a 3rd place finish the following season was hardly a shock. (btw we hadn't finished lower than 8th with that team so your assertion ''everyone'' considered us a mid table championship team is wrong... or if correct then that is a damning indictment of the levels of knowledge these people you listen to have).

I also disagree we were the surprise package, maybe a surprise for those that were ignorant to what was going on at the club and the talent we possessed, but they have never been the barometer for anything in life. These players had been consistent for a decade and been playing clubs off the park for fun - so anybody writing us off just did not have any knowledge of our club, to be blunt, and may have been the result of lazy journalism and punditry - who changed their tune almost instantly, as expected.

Looking at our squad now, someone like Joe Rodon is obviously a Premier League quality player - he doesn't need to have played there in order to make that assessment. So to put that in perspective, think Joe Rodon and multiply it by 7 - that was the position we were in regarding the time period we are discussing. We were geared for success right throughout the club, which we duly showed.

Neither of our current squads even come close. Couldn't even be uttered in the same breath. Not sure how it can even be an argument, you are usually sensible.

You also had a top class manager at that time bringing out the best in those players, most of whom were decent. Like you say, you probably only have one or two of that quality now so you would struggle if you went up. Last time, the quality of those players kept you there quite comfortably with decent additions like bony and Michu.

Indeed.

Cooper is more than capable of taking our side up, but the squad he has available to him just isn’t up to standard. He has done amazing to get us within a point of the play-offs with so few games left. Our fans have been spoilt over the years and unfortunately standards are often now unrealistic which doesn’t help matters.

Luckily he was able to use his contacts to bring in the likes of Brewster and Gallagher. Similar to the promotion year when Brendan brought in Borini and Sinclair, but of course as mentioned the squad was far far better back then.

Not helped by the fact VdH and Rodon are now out for the remainder of the season. We had a great record against the playoff lot last time round from memory, I’m sure we did the double over Reading going into that final. This season Brentford hammered us quite deservedly... twice. Fulham similarly dismantled us, to a less emphatic extent but I’d still give us very little chance against either.

For that reason it is the least nervy play off hunt to date. Not sure if you guys feel the same? It’s a bit surreal.

You drew away and won at home to Forest last time and beat Reading in the final.

You drew away and won at home to Forest last time and beat Reading in the final.

Yes, I know that... I was there

During the season I’m talking about. We did the double over Reading comfortably. So comparing a situation like that (clearly being dominant over the other opponents) to this season where neither Swansea or Cardiff have managed to beat Brentford or Fulham in 8 attempts between us - suggests this seasons playoffs is a much tougher proposition.

I seem to remember a few jacks confidently offering bets on them finishing well above us after a few games. To be fair, they were on fire at the time and we were indifferent at best.

I seem to remember a few jacks confidently offering bets on them finishing well above us after a few games. To be fair, they were on fire at the time and we were indifferent at best.

What season we talking about? This one or our promotion year?

I seem to remember a few jacks confidently offering bets on them finishing well above us after a few games. To be fair, they were on fire at the time and we were indifferent at best.

What season we talking about? This one or our promotion year?

Sorry mate, this one.