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Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:51 pm

Quality performance, he didn't put a foot wrong and headed everything away. He's really turning into a leader at this level and keeps improving.

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:53 pm

He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:00 pm

thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively


Preston scored because Morrison switched off and left their striker, Maguire unmarked. Nelson did his job marking the other striker, but Morrison switching off allowed Maguire to pick up the ball leading to their goal. Watch it again. Morrison played well apart from that though.

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:06 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively


Preston scored because Morrison switched off and left their striker, Maguire unmarked. Nelson did his job marking the other striker, but Morrison switching off allowed Maguire to pick up the ball leading to their goal. Watch it again. Morrison played well apart from that though.

That’s how I saw it too

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:14 pm

As I said in the MOTM topic, I think Stockley did a lot better when he was up against Nelson compared to when he was up against Morrison.

Nelson had a decent game, but I think that Morrison was fantastic today.

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:22 pm

I thought The Admiral played great today , very self assured

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:32 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively


Preston scored because Morrison switched off and left their striker, Maguire unmarked. Nelson did his job marking the other striker, but Morrison switching off allowed Maguire to pick up the ball leading to their goal. Watch it again. Morrison played well apart from that though.


Preston scored because Nelson came flying out of the area to a position he should not have been in to win a high ball. He then got beat in the air and couldn't get back which forced Morrison to try and cover.

Nelson had no business going for that ball as Bennett had it covered, it was very poor reading of the game and positional play by Nelson which left our defence wide open

Watch it again

https://youtu.be/mxVRBYfHnlA

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:36 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively


Preston scored because Morrison switched off and left their striker, Maguire unmarked. Nelson did his job marking the other striker, but Morrison switching off allowed Maguire to pick up the ball leading to their goal. Watch it again. Morrison played well apart from that though.


Reading your reply it's like you watched a totally different goal. It makes no sense whatsoever

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:38 pm

thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively



I just cant take what you say about some players with any seriousness. It's all opinion, but I feel if you dont rate a player then you are like a dog with a bone and always critisise.
Let's just enjoy a good win and performance today :thumbup:

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:46 pm

Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively



I just cant take what you say about some players with any seriousness. It's all opinion, but I feel if you dont rate a player then you are like a dog with a bone and always critisise.
Let's just enjoy a good win and performance today :thumbup:


Funny because I take nothing you say seriously at all.

I said he was good in the air and I have not said I dont rate him . It's a forum which is designed for people to give opinions.
All I have said is he gets caught out of position and is not a finished player which is absolutely correct and if you think otherwise then why dont you actually state why instead of just being a knob all the time.

I linked the goal to prove my point which is correct .

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:48 pm

Both CBs did brilliantly all game. The full backs however... As much as Sanderson looks good linking with Adomah in attacking positions he gives me heart palpitations at times near our own box! Lucky he has Mozza and Nelson sweeping up at times.

No one's fault for the goal. Good block. Lucky bounce. Could've gone to anyone, but it fell to their striker with a good hit.

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:57 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively



I just cant take what you say about some players with any seriousness. It's all opinion, but I feel if you dont rate a player then you are like a dog with a bone and always critisise.
Let's just enjoy a good win and performance today :thumbup:


Funny because I take nothing you say seriously at all.

I said he was good in the air and I have not said I dont rate him . It's a forum which is designed for people to give opinions.
All I have said is he gets caught out of position and is not a finished player which is absolutely correct and if you think otherwise then why dont you actually state why instead of just being a knob all the time.

I linked the goal to prove my point which is correct .



It's only correct in your mind though. You have said previously you dont rate Nelson and you have also said you dont rate Etheridge, Bacuna, Paterson, Ralls, Vaulks and Glatzel. There are probably a few more you dont rate but like I said I dont take you seriously and if these players never made mistakes they would be playing at a higher level.
Have a day off and enjoy the win

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:01 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively


Preston scored because Morrison switched off and left their striker, Maguire unmarked. Nelson did his job marking the other striker, but Morrison switching off allowed Maguire to pick up the ball leading to their goal. Watch it again. Morrison played well apart from that though.


Preston scored because Nelson came flying out of the area to a position he should not have been in to win a high ball. He then got beat in the air and couldn't get back which forced Morrison to try and cover.

Nelson had no business going for that ball as Bennett had it covered, it was very poor reading of the game and positional play by Nelson which left our defence wide open

Watch it again

https://youtu.be/mxVRBYfHnlA


Thanks for the link, it further confirms what I've said. Nelson did his job marking Stockley and the ball gets flicked inside to Maguire who's in acres of space. Morrison comes running in from the right of the camera to try to stop Maguire, but it's too late. Maguire was only on the pitch for a few minutes before their goal and we didn't adjust to Preston changing their system to two strikers, which probably resulted in Morrison not being aware to mark Maguire, the second striker. These things happen, but Morrison was excellent the rest of the game and we deserved the win.

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:04 pm

Nelson to me is a solid championship CB but I don't see him as anything more than that tbh. That's not knocking him as he's just come from league 1 but I don't see him at the level Manga and Bamba were at.

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:06 pm

Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively



I just cant take what you say about some players with any seriousness. It's all opinion, but I feel if you dont rate a player then you are like a dog with a bone and always critisise.
Let's just enjoy a good win and performance today :thumbup:


Funny because I take nothing you say seriously at all.

I said he was good in the air and I have not said I dont rate him . It's a forum which is designed for people to give opinions.
All I have said is he gets caught out of position and is not a finished player which is absolutely correct and if you think otherwise then why dont you actually state why instead of just being a knob all the time.

I linked the goal to prove my point which is correct .



It's only correct in your mind though. You have said previously you dont rate Nelson and you have also said you dont rate Etheridge, Bacuna, Paterson, Ralls, Vaulks and Glatzel. There are probably a few more you dont rate but like I said I dont take you seriously and if these players never made mistakes they would be playing at a higher level.
Have a day off and enjoy the win


You obviously dont read posts properly or get things mixed up. If people didnt have opinions then this forum would not exist. The whole forum is here to talk about the good and bad points of both the team as a whole and the players. I give just as many plaudits as criticisms to the team and players.

I rate Ralls highly for a start and think he is a very good player

I also rate Patterson I just do not believe he is a striker and would be better used in a different position

I have always said Etheridge is not as good as people made out and that Smithies was the better choice. That has proven correct but he is not a bad keeper at this level.

Bacuna is just stupidly inconsistent

Vaulks was playing well just before the break but did nothing before that to have a decent opinion yet.

Glatzel I dont rate at all but at the moment he is proven me wrong, he was awful for the first half of the season but hes turning it around.

Again its opinions if we all took the day off they may aswell just shut the forum until the next game

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:07 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively


Preston scored because Morrison switched off and left their striker, Maguire unmarked. Nelson did his job marking the other striker, but Morrison switching off allowed Maguire to pick up the ball leading to their goal. Watch it again. Morrison played well apart from that though.


Preston scored because Nelson came flying out of the area to a position he should not have been in to win a high ball. He then got beat in the air and couldn't get back which forced Morrison to try and cover.

Nelson had no business going for that ball as Bennett had it covered, it was very poor reading of the game and positional play by Nelson which left our defence wide open

Watch it again

https://youtu.be/mxVRBYfHnlA


Thanks for the link, it further confirms what I've said. Nelson did his job marking Stockley and the ball gets flicked inside to Maguire who's in acres of space. Morrison comes running in from the right of the camera to try to stop Maguire, but it's too late. Maguire was only on the pitch for a few minutes before their goal and we didn't adjust to Preston changing their system to two strikers, which probably resulted in Morrison not being aware to mark Maguire, the second striker. These things happen, but Morrison was excellent the rest of the game and we deserved the win.


That's a good summary and we were undone just after we scored first.
Nelson lost the header but didn't lose his man, as Stockley wasnt even in the box when the goal went in. I struggle to see how Nelson lost his man and even when a link is provided. :happy1:

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:10 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively


Preston scored because Morrison switched off and left their striker, Maguire unmarked. Nelson did his job marking the other striker, but Morrison switching off allowed Maguire to pick up the ball leading to their goal. Watch it again. Morrison played well apart from that though.


Preston scored because Nelson came flying out of the area to a position he should not have been in to win a high ball. He then got beat in the air and couldn't get back which forced Morrison to try and cover.

Nelson had no business going for that ball as Bennett had it covered, it was very poor reading of the game and positional play by Nelson which left our defence wide open

Watch it again

https://youtu.be/mxVRBYfHnlA


Thanks for the link, it further confirms what I've said. Nelson did his job marking Stockley and the ball gets flicked inside to Maguire who's in acres of space. Morrison comes running in from the right of the camera to try to stop Maguire, but it's too late. Maguire was only on the pitch for a few minutes before their goal and we didn't adjust to Preston changing their system to two strikers, which probably resulted in Morrison not being aware to mark Maguire, the second striker. These things happen, but Morrison was excellent the rest of the game and we deserved the win.


Fair enough but I dont see it that way , I see Nelson out of position putting the defence under pressure by not winning a header in a position he should not be in the first place.

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:10 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively



I just cant take what you say about some players with any seriousness. It's all opinion, but I feel if you dont rate a player then you are like a dog with a bone and always critisise.
Let's just enjoy a good win and performance today :thumbup:


Funny because I take nothing you say seriously at all.

I said he was good in the air and I have not said I dont rate him . It's a forum which is designed for people to give opinions.
All I have said is he gets caught out of position and is not a finished player which is absolutely correct and if you think otherwise then why dont you actually state why instead of just being a knob all the time.

I linked the goal to prove my point which is correct .



It's only correct in your mind though. You have said previously you dont rate Nelson and you have also said you dont rate Etheridge, Bacuna, Paterson, Ralls, Vaulks and Glatzel. There are probably a few more you dont rate but like I said I dont take you seriously and if these players never made mistakes they would be playing at a higher level.
Have a day off and enjoy the win


You obviously dont read posts properly or get things mixed up. If people didnt have opinions then this forum would not exist. The whole forum is here to talk about the good and bad points of both the team as a whole and the players. I give just as many plaudits as criticisms to the team and players.

I rate Ralls highly for a start and think he is a very good player

I also rate Patterson I just do not believe he is a striker and would be better used in a different position

I have always said Etheridge is not as good as people made out and that Smithies was the better choice. That has proven correct but he is not a bad keeper at this level.

Bacuna is just stupidly inconsistent

Vaulks was playing well just before the break but did nothing before that to have a decent opinion yet.

Glatzel I dont rate at all but at the moment he is proven me wrong, he was awful for the first half of the season but hes turning it around.

Again its opinions if we all took the day off they may aswell just shut the forum until the next game


That's called backtracking and while its opinions I just cant agree with yours. Anyway great win today and I'm done here :wave:

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:15 pm

Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively



I just cant take what you say about some players with any seriousness. It's all opinion, but I feel if you dont rate a player then you are like a dog with a bone and always critisise.
Let's just enjoy a good win and performance today :thumbup:


Funny because I take nothing you say seriously at all.

I said he was good in the air and I have not said I dont rate him . It's a forum which is designed for people to give opinions.
All I have said is he gets caught out of position and is not a finished player which is absolutely correct and if you think otherwise then why dont you actually state why instead of just being a knob all the time.

I linked the goal to prove my point which is correct .



It's only correct in your mind though. You have said previously you dont rate Nelson and you have also said you dont rate Etheridge, Bacuna, Paterson, Ralls, Vaulks and Glatzel. There are probably a few more you dont rate but like I said I dont take you seriously and if these players never made mistakes they would be playing at a higher level.
Have a day off and enjoy the win


You obviously dont read posts properly or get things mixed up. If people didnt have opinions then this forum would not exist. The whole forum is here to talk about the good and bad points of both the team as a whole and the players. I give just as many plaudits as criticisms to the team and players.

I rate Ralls highly for a start and think he is a very good player

I also rate Patterson I just do not believe he is a striker and would be better used in a different position

I have always said Etheridge is not as good as people made out and that Smithies was the better choice. That has proven correct but he is not a bad keeper at this level.

Bacuna is just stupidly inconsistent

Vaulks was playing well just before the break but did nothing before that to have a decent opinion yet.

Glatzel I dont rate at all but at the moment he is proven me wrong, he was awful for the first half of the season but hes turning it around.

Again its opinions if we all took the day off they may aswell just shut the forum until the next game


That's called backtracking and while its opinions I just cant agree with yours. Anyway great win today and I'm done here :wave:


Thank god for that, go derail some other thread like normal.

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:19 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively


Preston scored because Morrison switched off and left their striker, Maguire unmarked. Nelson did his job marking the other striker, but Morrison switching off allowed Maguire to pick up the ball leading to their goal. Watch it again. Morrison played well apart from that though.


Preston scored because Nelson came flying out of the area to a position he should not have been in to win a high ball. He then got beat in the air and couldn't get back which forced Morrison to try and cover.

Nelson had no business going for that ball as Bennett had it covered, it was very poor reading of the game and positional play by Nelson which left our defence wide open

Watch it again

https://youtu.be/mxVRBYfHnlA


Thanks for the link, it further confirms what I've said. Nelson did his job marking Stockley and the ball gets flicked inside to Maguire who's in acres of space. Morrison comes running in from the right of the camera to try to stop Maguire, but it's too late. Maguire was only on the pitch for a few minutes before their goal and we didn't adjust to Preston changing their system to two strikers, which probably resulted in Morrison not being aware to mark Maguire, the second striker. These things happen, but Morrison was excellent the rest of the game and we deserved the win.


Fair enough but I dont see it that way , I see Nelson out of position putting the defence under pressure by not winning a header in a position he should not be in the first place.


I do understand your point - Bennett was initially going for it until Stockley and Nelson ran into the area, but I don't think Nelson made a mad charge out of position as they were still in the inside left section of the pitch. Maybe if Nelson left Bennett to challenge Stockley and dropped back inside to cover, they wouldn't have scored; but Bennett also had their winger to mark. Stockley could have easily beaten Bennett in the air and flicked it to the unmarked winger to score. I think Nelson made the right decision challenging Stockley, but everyone has different opinions.

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:23 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively


Preston scored because Morrison switched off and left their striker, Maguire unmarked. Nelson did his job marking the other striker, but Morrison switching off allowed Maguire to pick up the ball leading to their goal. Watch it again. Morrison played well apart from that though.



Morrison switched off ? nah mate had he switched off he wouldn't have been across there covering Nelson, who was where exactly ?

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:29 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively


Preston scored because Morrison switched off and left their striker, Maguire unmarked. Nelson did his job marking the other striker, but Morrison switching off allowed Maguire to pick up the ball leading to their goal. Watch it again. Morrison played well apart from that though.


Preston scored because Nelson came flying out of the area to a position he should not have been in to win a high ball. He then got beat in the air and couldn't get back which forced Morrison to try and cover.

Nelson had no business going for that ball as Bennett had it covered, it was very poor reading of the game and positional play by Nelson which left our defence wide open

Watch it again

https://youtu.be/mxVRBYfHnlA


Thanks for the link, it further confirms what I've said. Nelson did his job marking Stockley and the ball gets flicked inside to Maguire who's in acres of space. Morrison comes running in from the right of the camera to try to stop Maguire, but it's too late. Maguire was only on the pitch for a few minutes before their goal and we didn't adjust to Preston changing their system to two strikers, which probably resulted in Morrison not being aware to mark Maguire, the second striker. These things happen, but Morrison was excellent the rest of the game and we deserved the win.


Fair enough but I dont see it that way , I see Nelson out of position putting the defence under pressure by not winning a header in a position he should not be in the first place.


I do understand your point - Bennett was initially going for it until Stockley and Nelson ran into the area, but I don't think Nelson made a mad charge out of position as they were still in the inside left section of the pitch. Maybe if Nelson left Bennett to challenge Stockley and dropped back inside to cover, they wouldn't have scored; but Bennett also had their winger to mark. Stockley could have easily beaten Bennett in the air and flicked it to the unmarked winger to score. I think Nelson made the right decision challenging Stockley, but everyone has different opinions.


Good point well made. People see things differently. I think the correct thing to do when a player tries to take you out of position like that is to leave him or pass him on to a team mate. That's where I see Nelson lacking at this level, hes inexperianced which is not his fault but i doubt either Bamba , Morrison or Flint would have got dragged out into that position

It's irrelevant now as we won anyway so no harm was done.

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:29 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively



I just cant take what you say about some players with any seriousness. It's all opinion, but I feel if you dont rate a player then you are like a dog with a bone and always critisise.
Let's just enjoy a good win and performance today :thumbup:


Funny because I take nothing you say seriously at all.

I said he was good in the air and I have not said I dont rate him . It's a forum which is designed for people to give opinions.
All I have said is he gets caught out of position and is not a finished player which is absolutely correct and if you think otherwise then why dont you actually state why instead of just being a knob all the time.

I linked the goal to prove my point which is correct .



It's only correct in your mind though. You have said previously you dont rate Nelson and you have also said you dont rate Etheridge, Bacuna, Paterson, Ralls, Vaulks and Glatzel. There are probably a few more you dont rate but like I said I dont take you seriously and if these players never made mistakes they would be playing at a higher level.
Have a day off and enjoy the win


You obviously dont read posts properly or get things mixed up. If people didnt have opinions then this forum would not exist. The whole forum is here to talk about the good and bad points of both the team as a whole and the players. I give just as many plaudits as criticisms to the team and players.

I rate Ralls highly for a start and think he is a very good player

I also rate Patterson I just do not believe he is a striker and would be better used in a different position

I have always said Etheridge is not as good as people made out and that Smithies was the better choice. That has proven correct but he is not a bad keeper at this level.

Bacuna is just stupidly inconsistent

Vaulks was playing well just before the break but did nothing before that to have a decent opinion yet.

Glatzel I dont rate at all but at the moment he is proven me wrong, he was awful for the first half of the season but hes turning it around.

Again its opinions if we all took the day off they may aswell just shut the forum until the next game


That's called backtracking and while its opinions I just cant agree with yours. Anyway great win today and I'm done here :wave:


Thank god for that, go derail some other thread like normal.



Nobody talks so much shit as you so I dont need say no more :thumbup:

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:48 pm

Thanks for the link, it further confirms what I've said. Nelson did his job marking Stockley and the ball gets flicked inside to Maguire who's in acres of space. Morrison comes running in from the right of the camera to try to stop Maguire, but it's too late. Maguire was only on the pitch for a few minutes before their goal and we didn't adjust to Preston changing their system to two strikers, which probably resulted in Morrison not being aware to mark Maguire, the second striker. These things happen, but Morrison was excellent the rest of the game and we deserved the win.[/quote]

No nelson followed his striker in and missed the header which left a massive hole in the back 4, which their striker ran into too, morrison did his job didnt get beat and held him up.

If your following your striker in you gotta win the ball. Joe Bennett should of dealt with it or been 5 yards behind nelson to cover him as he went up for the header, your right sided CB shouldn't be in the left back area following a runner.

So nelson fault for the goal as u said he followed his striket in and didn't win the header. Stockley had more joy against him than morrison.


Both were outstanding during last 2 games formed a great paternship :bluescarf:

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:54 pm

Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively



I just cant take what you say about some players with any seriousness. It's all opinion, but I feel if you dont rate a player then you are like a dog with a bone and always critisise.
Let's just enjoy a good win and performance today :thumbup:


Funny because I take nothing you say seriously at all.

I said he was good in the air and I have not said I dont rate him . It's a forum which is designed for people to give opinions.
All I have said is he gets caught out of position and is not a finished player which is absolutely correct and if you think otherwise then why dont you actually state why instead of just being a knob all the time.

I linked the goal to prove my point which is correct .



It's only correct in your mind though. You have said previously you dont rate Nelson and you have also said you dont rate Etheridge, Bacuna, Paterson, Ralls, Vaulks and Glatzel. There are probably a few more you dont rate but like I said I dont take you seriously and if these players never made mistakes they would be playing at a higher level.
Have a day off and enjoy the win


You obviously dont read posts properly or get things mixed up. If people didnt have opinions then this forum would not exist. The whole forum is here to talk about the good and bad points of both the team as a whole and the players. I give just as many plaudits as criticisms to the team and players.

I rate Ralls highly for a start and think he is a very good player

I also rate Patterson I just do not believe he is a striker and would be better used in a different position

I have always said Etheridge is not as good as people made out and that Smithies was the better choice. That has proven correct but he is not a bad keeper at this level.

Bacuna is just stupidly inconsistent

Vaulks was playing well just before the break but did nothing before that to have a decent opinion yet.

Glatzel I dont rate at all but at the moment he is proven me wrong, he was awful for the first half of the season but hes turning it around.

Again its opinions if we all took the day off they may aswell just shut the forum until the next game


That's called backtracking and while its opinions I just cant agree with yours. Anyway great win today and I'm done here :wave:


Thank god for that, go derail some other thread like normal.



Nobody talks so much shit as you so I dont need say no more :thumbup:


Mate you write a load of words but say nothing . You barely contribute to a thread in any way other than to say people are wrong but you dont articulate why. You just like to derail threads which are actually decent. This one is a conversation about the positioning of a player and wether it lead to the goal or not. If you dont want to contribute to it dont comment at all. Simple

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:08 pm

Morrison and Nelson seem to compliment each other.

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:22 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively



I just cant take what you say about some players with any seriousness. It's all opinion, but I feel if you dont rate a player then you are like a dog with a bone and always critisise.
Let's just enjoy a good win and performance today :thumbup:


Funny because I take nothing you say seriously at all.

I said he was good in the air and I have not said I dont rate him . It's a forum which is designed for people to give opinions.
All I have said is he gets caught out of position and is not a finished player which is absolutely correct and if you think otherwise then why dont you actually state why instead of just being a knob all the time.

I linked the goal to prove my point which is correct .



It's only correct in your mind though. You have said previously you dont rate Nelson and you have also said you dont rate Etheridge, Bacuna, Paterson, Ralls, Vaulks and Glatzel. There are probably a few more you dont rate but like I said I dont take you seriously and if these players never made mistakes they would be playing at a higher level.
Have a day off and enjoy the win


You obviously dont read posts properly or get things mixed up. If people didnt have opinions then this forum would not exist. The whole forum is here to talk about the good and bad points of both the team as a whole and the players. I give just as many plaudits as criticisms to the team and players.

I rate Ralls highly for a start and think he is a very good player

I also rate Patterson I just do not believe he is a striker and would be better used in a different position

I have always said Etheridge is not as good as people made out and that Smithies was the better choice. That has proven correct but he is not a bad keeper at this level.

Bacuna is just stupidly inconsistent

Vaulks was playing well just before the break but did nothing before that to have a decent opinion yet.

Glatzel I dont rate at all but at the moment he is proven me wrong, he was awful for the first half of the season but hes turning it around.

Again its opinions if we all took the day off they may aswell just shut the forum until the next game


That's called backtracking and while its opinions I just cant agree with yours. Anyway great win today and I'm done here :wave:


Thank god for that, go derail some other thread like normal.



Nobody talks so much shit as you so I dont need say no more :thumbup:


Mate you write a load of words but say nothing . You barely contribute to a thread in any way other than to say people are wrong but you dont articulate why. You just like to derail threads which are actually decent. This one is a conversation about the positioning of a player and wether it lead to the goal or not. If you dont want to contribute to it dont comment at all. Simple



The thread was started about how well Nelson played and yet you said he was at fault for the goal. I cant see anyone else sharing that point you made. What else could he do than challenge for the ball against the man he was marking ?
Firstly he was marking Stockley and lost the header which led to the goal, he didn't lose the man as you've said. Secondly, considering Nelson was a free from Oxford, I would say he is the best partner for Morrison and is performing great as just about most others say here.
Thirdly I cant see how Ive derailed the thread as it's about Nelson. Keep clutching at straws :thumbup:

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:32 pm

Enjoyed reading this aside from the silly stuff in there.

Even in a win, its good to dissect and reflect on what went wrong with the goal. You can bet the players will be doing it.

For my money nelson got caught out and left a gap behind him that they exploited. But both he and Morriston has superb games.

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:01 pm

Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
thomasblue wrote:He looked lost and out of position on a few occasions today like he has multiple times in the past.
He is very good in the air to be fair

Watch his positioning for the preston goal and the Smithies save low to the right.

Hes far from a finished product and Morrison helps him out massively



I just cant take what you say about some players with any seriousness. It's all opinion, but I feel if you dont rate a player then you are like a dog with a bone and always critisise.
Let's just enjoy a good win and performance today :thumbup:


Funny because I take nothing you say seriously at all.

I said he was good in the air and I have not said I dont rate him . It's a forum which is designed for people to give opinions.
All I have said is he gets caught out of position and is not a finished player which is absolutely correct and if you think otherwise then why dont you actually state why instead of just being a knob all the time.

I linked the goal to prove my point which is correct .



It's only correct in your mind though. You have said previously you dont rate Nelson and you have also said you dont rate Etheridge, Bacuna, Paterson, Ralls, Vaulks and Glatzel. There are probably a few more you dont rate but like I said I dont take you seriously and if these players never made mistakes they would be playing at a higher level.
Have a day off and enjoy the win


You obviously dont read posts properly or get things mixed up. If people didnt have opinions then this forum would not exist. The whole forum is here to talk about the good and bad points of both the team as a whole and the players. I give just as many plaudits as criticisms to the team and players.

I rate Ralls highly for a start and think he is a very good player

I also rate Patterson I just do not believe he is a striker and would be better used in a different position

I have always said Etheridge is not as good as people made out and that Smithies was the better choice. That has proven correct but he is not a bad keeper at this level.

Bacuna is just stupidly inconsistent

Vaulks was playing well just before the break but did nothing before that to have a decent opinion yet.

Glatzel I dont rate at all but at the moment he is proven me wrong, he was awful for the first half of the season but hes turning it around.

Again its opinions if we all took the day off they may aswell just shut the forum until the next game


That's called backtracking and while its opinions I just cant agree with yours. Anyway great win today and I'm done here :wave:


Thank god for that, go derail some other thread like normal.



Nobody talks so much shit as you so I dont need say no more :thumbup:


Mate you write a load of words but say nothing . You barely contribute to a thread in any way other than to say people are wrong but you dont articulate why. You just like to derail threads which are actually decent. This one is a conversation about the positioning of a player and wether it lead to the goal or not. If you dont want to contribute to it dont comment at all. Simple



The thread was started about how well Nelson played and yet you said he was at fault for the goal. I cant see anyone else sharing that point you made. What else could he do than challenge for the ball against the man he was marking ?
Firstly he was marking Stockley and lost the header which led to the goal, he didn't lose the man as you've said. Secondly, considering Nelson was a free from Oxford, I would say he is the best partner for Morrison and is performing great as just about most others say here.
Thirdly I cant see how Ive derailed the thread as it's about Nelson. Keep clutching at straws :thumbup:


So one person can say he played well without fault but another cannot challenge it on a forum ?
That's exactly what a forum is for , people to Express different opinions.

Behave yourself , and if you actually read replies of others you will see I'm not alone in the assessment he was at fault

Re: Nelson

Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:28 pm

paulh_85 wrote:Enjoyed reading this aside from the silly stuff in there.

Even in a win, its good to dissect and reflect on what went wrong with the goal. You can bet the players will be doing it.

For my money nelson got caught out and left a gap behind him that they exploited. But both he and Morriston has superb games.




that's how I saw their goal..
but over all a good performance by everyone mate. subs, manager, everyone..