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“ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:05 am

What Robert Glatzel must do to become a top striker and the training ground test he won before Leeds United wondergoal

The German forward made his mark in the first game back with a tremendous volley to seal the game for the Bluebirds

By Glen Williams

Monday 21st June 2020



During Robert Glatzel's short time as a Cardiff City striker, there have been glimpses of real quality.

With the ball at his feet, he has looked cool, calm and collected; unflustered with his back to goal and fleet-footed in tricky areas in the penalty box.

But, as we know all too well, those traits alone are often not enough to become a top striker, especially on the undulating battleground of the Championship.

Many cite Fulham's Aleksandar Mitrovic as the best marksman below the Premier League; a bona fide battering ram who can definitely play a bit, too.

And while Glatzel might have the skills and the finishing to one day place him among the top bracket of forwards in the division, it is perhaps the physical aspect which can be lacking on occasion.

His stunning strike to put City 2-0 ahead against Leeds United on Sunday was nothing short of a wondergoal, though.

The ball was fizzed into him from Nathaniel Mendez-Laing and the big German striker controlled nicely with his first touch before drilling home off the post with his second, a volley.

It served as a reminder of just how much talent he has and why Neil Warnock forked out £5.5million for him in the first place.

But we mustn't forget just how well Callum Paterson did before Glatzel's introduction in the second half.

The Scot was nothing short of excellent all afternoon, too. He took on the thankless task of chasing lost causes, battling for headers and winning fouls with his back to goal in his own half.

If there was some way to combine both Paterson and Glatzel's best assets then all of City's striker problems would be solved.

"Ultimately, my job is to make Robert Glatzel into a good Championship striker and it's a big responsibility for me," manager Neil Harris said after the win over Leeds.

"Today, we went with Pato, because we felt Leeds would have a lot of the ball, so we would have to do a lot of pressing and a lot of first contacts, and then Glatz and Tomlin and Marlon Pack might be able to come on and affect the game later on as it turned out.

"Glatz is an excellent finisher, a terrific fella, but he's got to adapt to Championship football, the robustness of it and what is needed.

"My centre forward needs to run, we saw Patrick Bamford doing it for Leeds, we know Robert Glatzel is quality with the ball, that's not in question, but can he find the physical element?"

That is the million-dollar question.



If the manager wants a more physical, direct approach against teams who are going to enjoy more possession, such as Leeds, Brentford or Fulham, then Paterson is your man.

But if the Bluebirds feel like they are going to enjoy a little more territory, perhaps Glatzel in front of Lee Tomlin is the perfect combination.

There is no doubting, though, that the longer Glatzel plays in this division, the better he will get. The more accustomed he will become to the physicality and the rigmarole.

He has certainly been toiling away during the enforced break, too, to ensure he is ready for the play-off push.

"On day one, we did testing and Robert Glatzel won the physical output, running-wise," Harris revealed. "That shows he can run and the physical element of the game."

So he has got the legs, the touch and certainly the finishing prowess - his finish the FA Cup defeat by Reading back in February was also utterly sublime - but perhaps a little more physicality and a drop more self-belief are the factors which must be added to elevate him to become one of the best in the league.

"We have just got to keep working with him," Harris added, "building with him, mentally and physically, to make him a top striker.

"I'm really pleased for him to score today."
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Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:13 pm

When it comes to our 2 main strikers we have the luxury of choosing horses for courses. I still think starting with Paterson is the best option with Glatzel proving to be an excellent impact substitution when needed.

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:41 pm

We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:21 pm

Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:23 pm

Totally agree. I think he'd shine in the prem too

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:41 pm

StuK147 wrote:Totally agree. I think he'd shine in the prem too


Jesus

The guy is struggling to make any kind of impact in the championship let alone the premier league.

He is our apparent main striker who has hardly missed any time through injury or suspension and is still being outscored this season by Tomlin, Hoilett, Ward and Patterson

Premier league defenders would have him nice and safely tucked up in there pocket he would be eaten alive at that level at the moment. He has a lot to learn at this level.

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:45 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:52 pm

thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?

That’s him. The headless chicken that is unable to hold the ball and link up play.

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:54 pm

Can’t work the guy out,for some reason he just doesn’t seem like a forward to me,scores his goal,then later had a chance to turn and shot when in a good position inside the box,but he decided to pass and the chance went,any forward would shot at every opportunity

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:18 pm

thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?


Still a lot of time for glatzel to come good, however Danny ward has been here for 3 seasons and has scored 10 goals :)

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:29 pm

Just read below that he’s left the club.

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:54 pm

WelshSerb wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?


Still a lot of time for glatzel to come good, however Danny ward has been here for 3 seasons and has scored 10 goals :)


Exactly the same post that was made about Ward two years ago

Exactly the same post that was made about Madine

Exactly the same post that was made about Zahore

He has time but has shown very very little to suggest he will be a top championship striker and even less to show he is even remotely capable of playing in the premier league

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:58 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?

That’s him. The headless chicken that is unable to hold the ball and link up play.


The headless chicken that runs in behind the defence creating chances

Chasing down lost balls and winning corners or throw ins

Actually converting chances in his limited time on the pitch compared to Glatzel even though they played the same amount of games .

Two totally different players

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:40 pm

thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?

That’s him. The headless chicken that is unable to hold the ball and link up play.


The headless chicken that runs in behind the defence creating chances

Chasing down lost balls and winning corners or throw ins

Actually converting chances in his limited time on the pitch compared to Glatzel even though they played the same amount of games .

Two totally different players

I agree with your last sentence. Gone now anyway so Harris clearly agrees.

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:51 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?

That’s him. The headless chicken that is unable to hold the ball and link up play.



City play way that suits an headless chicken rather than a centre forward! hence failures of countless forwards past 3 or 4years .... but if an headless chicken works best pick him until he regains his head! :mrgreen:

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:14 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?

That’s him. The headless chicken that is unable to hold the ball and link up play.


The headless chicken that runs in behind the defence creating chances

Chasing down lost balls and winning corners or throw ins

Actually converting chances in his limited time on the pitch compared to Glatzel even though they played the same amount of games .

Two totally different players

I agree with your last sentence. Gone now anyway so Harris clearly agrees.



don't think Hariis has a choice, we have too big a wage bill and those out of contract are not 1st team players,

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:47 pm

There is no comparison between Glatzel and Ward. Glatzel is a footballer and Ward a headless chicken who is injured almost all of the time.

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:50 pm

Charlie Harper wrote:There is no comparison between Glatzel and Ward. Glatzel is a footballer and Ward a headless chicken who is injured almost all of the time.
:occasion5:

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:04 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:There is no comparison between Glatzel and Ward. Glatzel is a footballer and Ward a headless chicken who is injured almost all of the time.
:occasion5:


:thumbup:

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:08 pm

WelshSerb wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?


Still a lot of time for glatzel to come good, however Danny ward has been here for 3 seasons and has scored 10 goals :)



well there are plenty willing to give him all the time he wants.... find it strange tbh seen much better players given hardly any time at all.... btw RG has been given more starts this season than DW got in 3 years...easily forgotten though because we didn't win many of them..5 out of 18

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:26 pm

skidemin wrote:
WelshSerb wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?


Still a lot of time for glatzel to come good, however Danny ward has been here for 3 seasons and has scored 10 goals :)



well there are plenty willing to give him all the time he wants.... find it strange tbh seen much better players given hardly any time at all.... btw RG has been given more starts this season than DW got in 3 years...easily forgotten though because we didn't win many of them..5 out of 18


Danny has been unlucky with injuries but when our last two managers preferred to play a makeshift striker in pato upfront it says a lot about the player

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:34 pm

WelshSerb wrote:
skidemin wrote:
WelshSerb wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?


Still a lot of time for glatzel to come good, however Danny ward has been here for 3 seasons and has scored 10 goals :)



well there are plenty willing to give him all the time he wants.... find it strange tbh seen much better players given hardly any time at all.... btw RG has been given more starts this season than DW got in 3 years...easily forgotten though because we didn't win many of them..5 out of 18


Danny has been unlucky with injuries but when our last two managers preferred to play a makeshift striker in pato upfront it says a lot about the player



sorry if you mis understood....5 wins from 18 starts is Glatzels record..... Danny Ward never got to start 18 games in his 3 years combined..

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:57 pm

WelshSerb wrote:
skidemin wrote:
WelshSerb wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?


Still a lot of time for glatzel to come good, however Danny ward has been here for 3 seasons and has scored 10 goals :)



well there are plenty willing to give him all the time he wants.... find it strange tbh seen much better players given hardly any time at all.... btw RG has been given more starts this season than DW got in 3 years...easily forgotten though because we didn't win many of them..5 out of 18


Danny has been unlucky with injuries but when our last two managers preferred to play a makeshift striker in pato upfront it says a lot about the player


Haven't they done that with Glatzel as well this season ?

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:46 pm

thomasblue wrote:
WelshSerb wrote:
skidemin wrote:
WelshSerb wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?


Still a lot of time for glatzel to come good, however Danny ward has been here for 3 seasons and has scored 10 goals :)



well there are plenty willing to give him all the time he wants.... find it strange tbh seen much better players given hardly any time at all.... btw RG has been given more starts this season than DW got in 3 years...easily forgotten though because we didn't win many of them..5 out of 18


Danny has been unlucky with injuries but when our last two managers preferred to play a makeshift striker in pato upfront it says a lot about the player


Haven't they done that with Glatzel as well this season ?


Not really as glatzel has started more games than pato and pato has been used in the midfield a few times this season

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:14 pm

skidemin wrote:
WelshSerb wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?


Still a lot of time for glatzel to come good, however Danny ward has been here for 3 seasons and has scored 10 goals :)



well there are plenty willing to give him all the time he wants.... find it strange tbh seen much better players given hardly any time at all.... btw RG has been given more starts this season than DW got in 3 years...easily forgotten though because we didn't win many of them..5 out of 18



Well if ward had only started 18 games in 3 years,doesn't say a lot for him really,does it? Not that I dislike ward,he has had some bad luck with injury etc,but if he were that good,we wouldn't have been looking for a striker in the first place,people gave madine enough time,but he didnt produce a goal in how long? We have been desperately searching for a 20+ striker for years now,hopefully Glatzel can push on from here on in,and maybe less pressure on him with no crowds could be a blessing,for him and the club? I'd rather Glatzel than Bamford!! :old: :bluebird:

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:31 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
WelshSerb wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.

It’s all opinions but mine is that we SHOULD forget about Ward. Not good enough I’m afraid.


The same Danny ward who has scored the same amount of goals as Glatzel in the same amount of games but cost £5million less ?


Still a lot of time for glatzel to come good, however Danny ward has been here for 3 seasons and has scored 10 goals :)



well there are plenty willing to give him all the time he wants.... find it strange tbh seen much better players given hardly any time at all.... btw RG has been given more starts this season than DW got in 3 years...easily forgotten though because we didn't win many of them..5 out of 18



Well if ward had only started 18 games in 3 years,doesn't say a lot for him really,does it? Not that I dislike ward,he has had some bad luck with injury etc,but if he were that good,we wouldn't have been looking for a striker in the first place,people gave madine enough time,but he didnt produce a goal in how long? We have been desperately searching for a 20+ striker for years now,hopefully Glatzel can push on from here on in,and maybe less pressure on him with no crowds could be a blessing,for him and the club? I'd rather Glatzel than Bamford!! :old: :bluebird:[/quot


im not a big DW fan,, always looked lively off the bench, but never seemed to deliver over 90mins but certainly ok as back up.... Madine ..no he didn't have as much opportunity as this fella.... but we were far more likely to win with him.. which makes zero sense if your a complaining Cardiff fan....60% win ratio if he started compared to 28% with glatzle...
as for bamford...I don't like him as a person. but he is a player.

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:43 am

StuK147 wrote:Totally agree. I think he'd shine in the prem too



He's scored what 4/5 goals in amongst a load of underwhelming performances. I'm not sure how you'd think that.

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:41 am

Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.


Danny Ward will not play for us again and will probably leave next week and sign for Middlesbrough.

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:50 am

dazza wrote:
Crayfish wrote:We should not forget about Danny Ward either if we are chasing a game and need to play two up front. Hopefully Glatzel might come good but it great we have options up front.


Danny Ward will not play for us again and will probably leave next week and sign for Middlesbrough.

Gone yesterday mate. I agree re Boro.

Re: “ Robert Glatzel “

Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:28 pm

If that's the case I think it's not a good move. What happens if Patterson or Glatzel get injured. Who would be backup. I thought the club had announced Ward and Richards would be remaining until the season had been completed. In Richards case there is no point in now keeping him as is injured but regarding Ward I think we are taking a big risk.