Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:26 am
Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:50 am
Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:09 pm
Citysince72 wrote:I may seem not caring but I do wish there more equality in the USA,
But he says "bodies in the street"
If 52% of murders are done by 6% of the population that is black then let's not
Kid yourselves that the black people are innocent either
Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:58 pm
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:17 pm
City in Cwmbran wrote:Citysince72 wrote:I may seem not caring but I do wish there more equality in the USA,
But he says "bodies in the street"
If 52% of murders are done by 6% of the population that is black then let's not
Kid yourselves that the black people are innocent either
God help us........![]()
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:20 pm
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:34 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:8.000 miles away???????????? Where are you for it to be 8,000 miles away?
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:47 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:8.000 miles away???????????? Where are you for it to be 8,000 miles away?
Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:00 pm
skidemin wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:8.000 miles away???????????? Where are you for it to be 8,000 miles away?
4k, 8k. the point is its a different country with different laws... getting rid of guns would be a good start... watched the guy being shot in the car park after falling asleep in his car... I doubt very much that would have ended up with him being killed here...
Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:07 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:skidemin wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:8.000 miles away???????????? Where are you for it to be 8,000 miles away?
4k, 8k. the point is its a different country with different laws... getting rid of guns would be a good start... watched the guy being shot in the car park after falling asleep in his car... I doubt very much that would have ended up with him being killed here...
You're right it is a different country. Happy now ?
Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:43 pm
Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:24 pm
thomasblue wrote:The interesting point will come when one player does not kneel when the others do
Who will be the first to say no
Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:20 am
City in Cwmbran wrote:Citysince72 wrote:I may seem not caring but I do wish there more equality in the USA,
But he says "bodies in the street"
If 52% of murders are done by 6% of the population that is black then let's not
Kid yourselves that the black people are innocent either
God help us........![]()
Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:50 am
Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:57 am
castleblue wrote:he 'Act' of taking a knee was being used by the abolitionist movement over 200 years ago with the image of an african slave kneeling, manacled hands held out in a begging pose with a banner "Am I not a man and your brother". At the time it was considered the symbol of the struggle for the abolition of the slave trade.
It has been used a couple of times in recent history with Martin Luther King kneeling in prayer with a group of protestors after they were arrested during an 'illegal' march for the vote and then more recently by the NFL player.
The slave trade was abolished in 1833 in the British Empire, 30 years later in the US and for an African American man to be murdered in the manner George Floyd was shows in reality how little has changed over nearly 200 years.
I thought the sight of Premier League players with "Black Lives Matter" on their shirts and for them to take a knee with the match officials was a powerful message.
It's 2020 and enough is enough racism has no place in our society.
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Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:58 pm
skidemin wrote:castleblue wrote:he 'Act' of taking a knee was being used by the abolitionist movement over 200 years ago with the image of an african slave kneeling, manacled hands held out in a begging pose with a banner "Am I not a man and your brother". At the time it was considered the symbol of the struggle for the abolition of the slave trade.
It has been used a couple of times in recent history with Martin Luther King kneeling in prayer with a group of protestors after they were arrested during an 'illegal' march for the vote and then more recently by the NFL player.
The slave trade was abolished in 1833 in the British Empire, 30 years later in the US and for an African American man to be murdered in the manner George Floyd was shows in reality how little has changed over nearly 200 years.
I thought the sight of Premier League players with "Black Lives Matter" on their shirts and for them to take a knee with the match officials was a powerful message.
It's 2020 and enough is enough racism has no place in our society.
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for an African American man to be murdered in the manner George Floyd was...…. I don't get the jump to this being a racially motivated crime.. everything ive read is that Floyd had just committed an offence.. was under the influence of whatever ..was known to the cop as a violent criminal and who apparently resisted arrest... the cop .. 17 previous complaints from people of all colours . what the Americans call bad arse . just don't see that this would have ended any better if Floyd was a white man.. if you've seen lots of evidence suggesting the cop was a white supremacist or flat out racist fair enough but I haven't seen it reported...
Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:49 pm
castleblue wrote:skidemin wrote:castleblue wrote:he 'Act' of taking a knee was being used by the abolitionist movement over 200 years ago with the image of an african slave kneeling, manacled hands held out in a begging pose with a banner "Am I not a man and your brother". At the time it was considered the symbol of the struggle for the abolition of the slave trade.
It has been used a couple of times in recent history with Martin Luther King kneeling in prayer with a group of protestors after they were arrested during an 'illegal' march for the vote and then more recently by the NFL player.
The slave trade was abolished in 1833 in the British Empire, 30 years later in the US and for an African American man to be murdered in the manner George Floyd was shows in reality how little has changed over nearly 200 years.
I thought the sight of Premier League players with "Black Lives Matter" on their shirts and for them to take a knee with the match officials was a powerful message.
It's 2020 and enough is enough racism has no place in our society.
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for an African American man to be murdered in the manner George Floyd was...…. I don't get the jump to this being a racially motivated crime.. everything ive read is that Floyd had just committed an offence.. was under the influence of whatever ..was known to the cop as a violent criminal and who apparently resisted arrest... the cop .. 17 previous complaints from people of all colours . what the Americans call bad arse . just don't see that this would have ended any better if Floyd was a white man.. if you've seen lots of evidence suggesting the cop was a white supremacist or flat out racist fair enough but I haven't seen it reported...
Racism - prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
That is how I see the murder of George Floyd as racially motivated no jump required.
I'm struggling to think of an example of a White American being treated as George Floyd was.
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Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:15 am
skidemin wrote:castleblue wrote:skidemin wrote:castleblue wrote:he 'Act' of taking a knee was being used by the abolitionist movement over 200 years ago with the image of an african slave kneeling, manacled hands held out in a begging pose with a banner "Am I not a man and your brother". At the time it was considered the symbol of the struggle for the abolition of the slave trade.
It has been used a couple of times in recent history with Martin Luther King kneeling in prayer with a group of protestors after they were arrested during an 'illegal' march for the vote and then more recently by the NFL player.
The slave trade was abolished in 1833 in the British Empire, 30 years later in the US and for an African American man to be murdered in the manner George Floyd was shows in reality how little has changed over nearly 200 years.
I thought the sight of Premier League players with "Black Lives Matter" on their shirts and for them to take a knee with the match officials was a powerful message.
It's 2020 and enough is enough racism has no place in our society.
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for an African American man to be murdered in the manner George Floyd was...…. I don't get the jump to this being a racially motivated crime.. everything ive read is that Floyd had just committed an offence.. was under the influence of whatever ..was known to the cop as a violent criminal and who apparently resisted arrest... the cop .. 17 previous complaints from people of all colours . what the Americans call bad arse . just don't see that this would have ended any better if Floyd was a white man.. if you've seen lots of evidence suggesting the cop was a white supremacist or flat out racist fair enough but I haven't seen it reported...
Racism - prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
That is how I see the murder of George Floyd as racially motivated no jump required.
I'm struggling to think of an example of a White American being treated as George Floyd was.
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im fully aware of what racism is without looking it up and then getting it wrong...
THIS TOOK 20 SECONDS TO FIND
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=to ... &FORM=VIRE
so yes a HUGE JUMP....
the stats DO NOT BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS....so instead of googling racism try checking some facts out.
where was prejudice and discrimination in the George Floyd murder ?
Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:43 pm
Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:59 pm