Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:37 pm
Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:39 pm
Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:41 pm
Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:02 pm
Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:09 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Annis, I’m far happier giving our youth a chance rather than spend on journeymen. Particularly with the current climate.
Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:12 pm
Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:26 pm
wez1927 wrote:I think most clubs will be in the same boat ,can see a lot if clubs downsizing there squads not renewing players contracts
Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:29 pm
Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:16 pm
Sven wrote:wez1927 wrote:I think most clubs will be in the same boat ,can see a lot if clubs downsizing there squads not renewing players contracts
Wez, a lot on here will say "as it should be" on promoting the youngsters...until the first adverse result and then the same people will moan "we don't have ambition because we didn't spend big"
Personally, I have no issue with blooding the young guns but equally I want nothing but success for our club (specifically promotion) and that in itself might be a contradiction; although to do it with 'home-grown' would br the icing on the proverbial cake!
Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:18 pm
wez1927 wrote:Sven wrote:wez1927 wrote:I think most clubs will be in the same boat ,can see a lot if clubs downsizing there squads not renewing players contracts
Wez, a lot on here will say "as it should be" on promoting the youngsters...until the first adverse result and then the same people will moan "we don't have ambition because we didn't spend big"
Personally, I have no issue with blooding the young guns but equally I want nothing but success for our club (specifically promotion) and that in itself might be a contradiction; although to do it with 'home-grown' would br the icing on the proverbial cake!
Maybe bring a few youngsters through ,get rid of the dead wood and bring couple of decent freebies could work
Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:34 pm
Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:44 pm
Forever Blue wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Annis, I’m far happier giving our youth a chance rather than spend on journeymen. Particularly with the current climate.
Andrew,
I have always wanted our youth to play, let’s hope there is a lot of talent there![]()
Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:37 am
Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:44 am
Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:24 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Annis, I’m far happier giving our youth a chance rather than spend on journeymen. Particularly with the current climate.
Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:19 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Annis, I’m far happier giving our youth a chance rather than spend on journeymen. Particularly with the current climate.
Spot onWe have wasted nearly £14m on trying to fix the striker position. Could Mark Harris be any worse than Bogle, Vassel, Madine or even Glatzel?
You could say something similar about the midfield positions. I have a great gut feeling about Sang and I hope he is fast tracked into the match day squad and could provide a brilliant back up option to Tomlin.
Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:55 pm
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:How Harris uses the loan market is going to be key next season
In fairness he’s done ok so far utilising the loan market
Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:24 pm
Sven wrote:wez1927 wrote:I think most clubs will be in the same boat ,can see a lot if clubs downsizing there squads not renewing players contracts
Wez, a lot on here will say "as it should be" on promoting the youngsters...until the first adverse result and then the same people will moan "we don't have ambition because we didn't spend big"
Personally, I have no issue with blooding the young guns but equally I want nothing but success for our club (specifically promotion) and that in itself might be a contradiction; although to do it with 'home-grown' would br the icing on the proverbial cake!
Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:42 pm
Crayfish wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Annis, I’m far happier giving our youth a chance rather than spend on journeymen. Particularly with the current climate.
Spot onWe have wasted nearly £14m on trying to fix the striker position. Could Mark Harris be any worse than Bogle, Vassel, Madine or even Glatzel?
You could say something similar about the midfield positions. I have a great gut feeling about Sang and I hope he is fast tracked into the match day squad and could provide a brilliant back up option to Tomlin.
Given that Mark Harris was dropped by a very poor Wrexham side after a fairly decent start yes he probably worse than most of the above. Not Vassel of course as he is never fit to play. If we had been relying on youth team players coming through over the last ten years we would be in league two now if not the conference. By the law of averag we should have some decent players in our youth set up as they have not produced a player who could play at championship level fro 10 years or so.
Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:50 pm
skidemin wrote:Crayfish wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Annis, I’m far happier giving our youth a chance rather than spend on journeymen. Particularly with the current climate.
Spot onWe have wasted nearly £14m on trying to fix the striker position. Could Mark Harris be any worse than Bogle, Vassel, Madine or even Glatzel?
You could say something similar about the midfield positions. I have a great gut feeling about Sang and I hope he is fast tracked into the match day squad and could provide a brilliant back up option to Tomlin.
Given that Mark Harris was dropped by a very poor Wrexham side after a fairly decent start yes he probably worse than most of the above. Not Vassel of course as he is never fit to play. If we had been relying on youth team players coming through over the last ten years we would be in league two now if not the conference. By the law of averag we should have some decent players in our youth set up as they have not produced a player who could play at championship level fro 10 years or so.
yep lge 2, I despair when I read play the youth as if people at the club have no clue..
but yes its due to produce someone otherwise is there a point ? . re Mark Harris you do get loans that don't work out where the player then comes back and shines in this case I think he must be getting close to last chance saloon though..
Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:27 pm
Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:36 am
Crayfish wrote:Given that Mark Harris was dropped by a very poor Wrexham side after a fairly decent start yes he probably worse than most of the above. Not Vassel of course as he is never fit to play. If we had been relying on youth team players coming through over the last ten years we would be in league two now if not the conference. By the law of averag we should have some decent players in our youth set up as they have not produced a player who could play at championship level fro 10 years or so.
Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:38 am
stickywicket wrote:Looks as if Harris will be restricted to signing free transfer white players.If I was a black player reading this board I'd avoid Cardiff City like the plaque.Why should our current black players pull the stops out for this club.
I presume players read the message boards.
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:28 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:stickywicket wrote:Looks as if Harris will be restricted to signing free transfer white players.If I was a black player reading this board I'd avoid Cardiff City like the plaque.Why should our current black players pull the stops out for this club.
I presume players read the message boards.
What do you mean by that?
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:30 pm
stickywicket wrote:8-)Tony Blue Williams wrote:stickywicket wrote:Looks as if Harris will be restricted to signing free transfer white players.If I was a black player reading this board I'd avoid Cardiff City like the plaque.Why should our current black players pull the stops out for this club.
I presume players read the message boards.
What do you mean by that?
If you was a black player reading the comments on this board would you want to sign for us?
Or, what if you were a parent of a black lad.?
Would you say yes that's the club for us.