Wales Announce that this year staying closed as

Wales holiday areas to stay closed this year as Spain/Mallorca agree with UK to open up to UK this July with No Quarantine


Health

Wales will remain largely shut to tourists this summer, warns First Minister

Mark Drakeford says ‘best hope’ is that self-catering accommodation will be opened


By Nigel Morris

June 11th 2020

Wales will remain largely shut over the summer with visitors likely to be restricted to staying in cottages and self-catering flats, the Welsh first minister has warned holidaymakers.

Mark Drakeford said the “best hope” was that tourists would be allowed to sleep in entirely self-contained accommodation because of the risk of spreading coronavirus.

In an interview with i, he indicated that the ban on travelling more than five miles in Wales would remain in place well into July, and said he did not expect mass gatherings such as sports events and concerts to resume until next year.

You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

I resent the fact that this over paid wannabee has neglected to say caravans not included.

Some of my best holidays in Porthcawl in the 70's

I resent the fact that this over paid wannabee has neglected to say caravans not included.

Some of my best holidays in Porthcawl in the 70's

Totally agree

This makes me worry that its a lot worse in Wales than most of the UK. Nearly 900 in hospital at the moment in Wales out of a UK total of about 7000. That's almost 15% when we are less than 5% of the UK population.

This makes me worry that its a lot worse in Wales than most of the UK. Nearly 900 in hospital at the moment in Wales out of a UK total of about 7000. That's almost 15% when we are less than 5% of the UK population.

Figures are always misleading when you look deeper into them? But more concerning is his insistence on being the prophet of doom regarding Wales he as not got a clue that by being so negative he is doing irreparable damage to Welsh economy especially tourism which is vital to lots rural areas especially... even today WG says zoos will be looked at on July 9th but no opening date yet
England open in a week or so....

I resent the fact that this over paid wannabee has neglected to say caravans not included.

Some of my best holidays in Porthcawl in the 70's

Hes a total idiot its actually better to have hotel bbs open than self catering for one simple important reason that he cant see! Hotels ect have people who live there and can clean it properly (you hope) but self catering who does cleaning? Got to rely on owners coming in or getting in cleaners to do it with no monitoring of quality... so why is he differentiating between them? Plus who the fck wants to go 5miles on holiday as thats as far as can go!

Wales holiday areas to stay closed this year as Spain/Mallorca agree with UK to open up to UK this July with No Quarantine


Health

Wales will remain largely shut to tourists this summer, warns First Minister

Mark Drakeford says ‘best hope’ is that self-catering accommodation will be opened


By Nigel Morris

June 11th 2020

Wales will remain largely shut over the summer with visitors likely to be restricted to staying in cottages and self-catering flats, the Welsh first minister has warned holidaymakers.

Mark Drakeford said the “best hope” was that tourists would be allowed to sleep in entirely self-contained accommodation because of the risk of spreading coronavirus.

In an interview with i, he indicated that the ban on travelling more than five miles in Wales would remain in place well into July, and said he did not expect mass gatherings such as sports events and concerts to resume until next year.

Well they’ve told caravan parks they can start taking bookings from July 10th so not sure what he’s in about, as usual.
If self catering private accommodation can also, which makes complete sense (why couldn’t you leave your own house and go and stay in another with its own facilities?), then what is he talking about now??

I resent the fact that this over paid wannabee has neglected to say caravans not included.

Some of my best holidays in Porthcawl in the 70's

Hes a total idiot its actually better to have hotel bbs open than self catering for one simple important reason that he cant see! Hotels ect have people who live there and can clean it properly (you hope) but self catering who does cleaning? Got to rely on owners coming in or getting in cleaners to do it with no monitoring of quality... so why is he differentiating between them? Plus who the fck wants to go 5miles on holiday as thats as far as can go!

I’m sure you realise Allan there are 100’s maybe 1000’s of cleaners alone in Pembs and Carmarthen who are desperate to get some work before the season is over, oh well, universal credit hotline will be red hot down that way soon. I doubt many are furlough the amount of cash in hand that goes on....

I resent the fact that this over paid wannabee has neglected to say caravans not included.

Some of my best holidays in Porthcawl in the 70's

Hes a total idiot its actually better to have hotel bbs open than self catering for one simple important reason that he cant see! Hotels ect have people who live there and can clean it properly (you hope) but self catering who does cleaning? Got to rely on owners coming in or getting in cleaners to do it with no monitoring of quality... so why is he differentiating between them? Plus who the fck wants to go 5miles on holiday as thats as far as can go!

Apparently no one is getting pulled over in Pembs police just trying to stop people getting in.

I resent the fact that this over paid wannabee has neglected to say caravans not included.

Some of my best holidays in Porthcawl in the 70's

Hes a total idiot its actually better to have hotel bbs open than self catering for one simple important reason that he cant see! Hotels ect have people who live there and can clean it properly (you hope) but self catering who does cleaning? Got to rely on owners coming in or getting in cleaners to do it with no monitoring of quality... so why is he differentiating between them? Plus who the fck wants to go 5miles on holiday as thats as far as can go!

Apparently no one is getting pulled over in Pembs police just trying to stop people getting in.

They stopped me last fri thats twice now!

I resent the fact that this over paid wannabee has neglected to say caravans not included.

Some of my best holidays in Porthcawl in the 70's

Hes a total idiot its actually better to have hotel bbs open than self catering for one simple important reason that he cant see! Hotels ect have people who live there and can clean it properly (you hope) but self catering who does cleaning? Got to rely on owners coming in or getting in cleaners to do it with no monitoring of quality... so why is he differentiating between them? Plus who the fck wants to go 5miles on holiday as thats as far as can go!

Apparently no one is getting pulled over in Pembs police just trying to stop people getting in.

They stopped me last fri thats twice now!

Were you driving the vehicle in your avatar?

I resent the fact that this over paid wannabee has neglected to say caravans not included.

Some of my best holidays in Porthcawl in the 70's

Hes a total idiot its actually better to have hotel bbs open than self catering for one simple important reason that he cant see! Hotels ect have people who live there and can clean it properly (you hope) but self catering who does cleaning? Got to rely on owners coming in or getting in cleaners to do it with no monitoring of quality... so why is he differentiating between them? Plus who the fck wants to go 5miles on holiday as thats as far as can go!

I’m sure you realise Allan there are 100’s maybe 1000’s of cleaners alone in Pembs and Carmarthen who are desperate to get some work before the season is over, oh well, universal credit hotline will be red hot down that way soon. I doubt many are furlough the amount of cash in hand that goes on....

Yes got friend who is self employed cleaner that does couple of lets.... she gets around £200 month help from gvmnt.... my point really is why differate between types and who will monitor cleaning especially because corvid
last longer on solid objects so needs proper sanitizing! and who will travel 5 miles to go on hols?

I resent the fact that this over paid wannabee has neglected to say caravans not included.

Some of my best holidays in Porthcawl in the 70's

Hes a total idiot its actually better to have hotel bbs open than self catering for one simple important reason that he cant see! Hotels ect have people who live there and can clean it properly (you hope) but self catering who does cleaning? Got to rely on owners coming in or getting in cleaners to do it with no monitoring of quality... so why is he differentiating between them? Plus who the fck wants to go 5miles on holiday as thats as far as can go!

Apparently no one is getting pulled over in Pembs police just trying to stop people getting in.

They stopped me last fri thats twice now!

Were you driving the vehicle in your avatar?

nooo doing that over xmas! I was doing my good deed as normal.

This makes me worry that its a lot worse in Wales than most of the UK. Nearly 900 in hospital at the moment in Wales out of a UK total of about 7000. That's almost 15% when we are less than 5% of the UK population.

What exactly are those 900 people in hospital for? Are they in intensive care? Why have they closed down that field hospital in the Millenium Stadium if things are so bad?

3.5 million people in Wales.

Hotels, bed and breakfasts, campsites, attractions, people who work in them, people who supply them, people who clean them. All being told tough shit as far as your livelihoods are concerned we've decided to keep Wales closed for the rest of the year.

You would think that Wales is the seething hotbed of the universe as far as this virus is concerned and that we must be kept strictly within a five mile radius or we'll all catch it and die.

Somebody please ask Drakeford what he's got against the Welsh people and the Welsh economy that he wants to keep the country in a stricter and longer lockdown than virtually any other country, even those whose deaths per capita are far greater than they are in Wales.

The long term effects of this bumbling prick's actions now are going to be absolutely devastating for so many people in the country he claims to represent. Won't bother him I suppose with his fat pension.

I resent the fact that this over paid wannabee has neglected to say caravans not included.

Some of my best holidays in Porthcawl in the 70's

Hes a total idiot its actually better to have hotel bbs open than self catering for one simple important reason that he cant see! Hotels ect have people who live there and can clean it properly (you hope) but self catering who does cleaning? Got to rely on owners coming in or getting in cleaners to do it with no monitoring of quality... so why is he differentiating between them? Plus who the fck wants to go 5miles on holiday as thats as far as can go!

I’m sure you realise Allan there are 100’s maybe 1000’s of cleaners alone in Pembs and Carmarthen who are desperate to get some work before the season is over, oh well, universal credit hotline will be red hot down that way soon. I doubt many are furlough the amount of cash in hand that goes on....

Yes got friend who is self employed cleaner that does couple of lets.... she gets around £200 month help from gvmnt.... my point really is why differate between types and who will monitor cleaning especially because corvid
last longer on solid objects so needs proper sanitizing! and who will travel 5 miles to go on hols?

I’ll be doing the cleaning for mine I think, unless some of the regulars want it, youngish girls. As it stands I’m keeping about 3 or 4 days between bookings for deep cleaning. My wife is a cleaning machine.....
I think you can travel from wherever to a house in Pembrokeshire, but then you are supposed to stay within five miles, which of course none of the locals down there are doing, it’s more like 15/20, depending how far you are from Tesco or Morrison’s etc

This makes me worry that its a lot worse in Wales than most of the UK. Nearly 900 in hospital at the moment in Wales out of a UK total of about 7000. That's almost 15% when we are less than 5% of the UK population.

What exactly are those 900 people in hospital for? Are they in intensive care? Why have they closed down that field hospital in the Millenium Stadium if things are so bad?

3.5 million people in Wales.

Hotels, bed and breakfasts, campsites, attractions, people who work in them, people who supply them, people who clean them. All being told tough shit as far as your livelihoods are concerned we've decided to keep Wales closed for the rest of the year.

You would think that Wales is the seething hotbed of the universe as far as this virus is concerned and that we must be kept strictly within a five mile radius or we'll all catch it and die.

Somebody please ask Drakeford what he's got against the Welsh people and the Welsh economy that he wants to keep the country in a stricter and longer lockdown than virtually any other country, even those whose deaths per capita are far greater than they are in Wales.

The long term effects of this bumbling prick's actions now are going to be absolutely devastating for so many people in the country he claims to represent. Won't bother him I suppose with his fat pension.

Here in st davids sure people would quite happily meet him for friendly chat as ex AM for pembs! ....... we normally get around 3k visitors a day plus all the BB visitors that use coastal path at moment it's a ghost city and will be until lockdown is ended... no point waiting for drakeford to do anything as he cant decide what to do...

This makes me worry that its a lot worse in Wales than most of the UK. Nearly 900 in hospital at the moment in Wales out of a UK total of about 7000. That's almost 15% when we are less than 5% of the UK population.

What exactly are those 900 people in hospital for? Are they in intensive care? Why have they closed down that field hospital in the Millenium Stadium if things are so bad?

3.5 million people in Wales.

Hotels, bed and breakfasts, campsites, attractions, people who work in them, people who supply them, people who clean them. All being told tough shit as far as your livelihoods are concerned we've decided to keep Wales closed for the rest of the year.

You would think that Wales is the seething hotbed of the universe as far as this virus is concerned and that we must be kept strictly within a five mile radius or we'll all catch it and die.

Somebody please ask Drakeford what he's got against the Welsh people and the Welsh economy that he wants to keep the country in a stricter and longer lockdown than virtually any other country, even those whose deaths per capita are far greater than they are in Wales.

The long term effects of this bumbling prick's actions now are going to be absolutely devastating for so many people in the country he claims to represent. Won't bother him I suppose with his fat pension.

The Heath is empty, MS is closed, less than 10 new cases in Cardiff most days now, none in Swansea of late so who knows where these mystery folks are? Saw an interesting stat today whereby 35 people have died in England from covid19 who are under 40 who didn’t have any pre existing conditions. Another 250 between 40+60. Basically, if you are healthy and under 60 you should be ok, ok to go out there and keep the country going etc....
Reckon we are going to have to exist with this for a good two years, maybe longer, so what we going to do?

I resent the fact that this over paid wannabee has neglected to say caravans not included.

Some of my best holidays in Porthcawl in the 70's

Hes a total idiot its actually better to have hotel bbs open than self catering for one simple important reason that he cant see! Hotels ect have people who live there and can clean it properly (you hope) but self catering who does cleaning? Got to rely on owners coming in or getting in cleaners to do it with no monitoring of quality... so why is he differentiating between them? Plus who the fck wants to go 5miles on holiday as thats as far as can go!

I’m sure you realise Allan there are 100’s maybe 1000’s of cleaners alone in Pembs and Carmarthen who are desperate to get some work before the season is over, oh well, universal credit hotline will be red hot down that way soon. I doubt many are furlough the amount of cash in hand that goes on....

Yes got friend who is self employed cleaner that does couple of lets.... she gets around £200 month help from gvmnt.... my point really is why differate between types and who will monitor cleaning especially because corvid
last longer on solid objects so needs proper sanitizing! and who will travel 5 miles to go on hols?

I’ll be doing the cleaning for mine I think, unless some of the regulars want it, youngish girls. As it stands I’m keeping about 3 or 4 days between bookings for deep cleaning. My wife is a cleaning machine.....
I think you can travel from wherever to a house in Pembrokeshire, but then you are supposed to stay within five miles, which of course none of the locals down there are doing, it’s more like 15/20, depending how far you are from Tesco or Morrison’s etc

Nearest village to us around 6 miles away and nearest tesco or lidl ect is 16miles
thats what I mean about cleaning lot depends on your apptitude to it and it doesnt matter what property it is? So why one type not other....

Trecco it is then

This makes me worry that its a lot worse in Wales than most of the UK. Nearly 900 in hospital at the moment in Wales out of a UK total of about 7000. That's almost 15% when we are less than 5% of the UK population.

What exactly are those 900 people in hospital for? Are they in intensive care? Why have they closed down that field hospital in the Millenium Stadium if things are so bad?

3.5 million people in Wales.

Hotels, bed and breakfasts, campsites, attractions, people who work in them, people who supply them, people who clean them. All being told tough shit as far as your livelihoods are concerned we've decided to keep Wales closed for the rest of the year.

You would think that Wales is the seething hotbed of the universe as far as this virus is concerned and that we must be kept strictly within a five mile radius or we'll all catch it and die.

Somebody please ask Drakeford what he's got against the Welsh people and the Welsh economy that he wants to keep the country in a stricter and longer lockdown than virtually any other country, even those whose deaths per capita are far greater than they are in Wales.

The long term effects of this bumbling prick's actions now are going to be absolutely devastating for so many people in the country he claims to represent. Won't bother him I suppose with his fat pension.

He's Corbyn's mate a right leftie they don't give a feck about economies, just political games, what he's doing will suit his budget (hospitals/health) but to the detriment of Westminsters budget!

No one will listen to him anyway, they can't stop the thousands of cars that will be flying down the motorway from now!

This makes me worry that its a lot worse in Wales than most of the UK. Nearly 900 in hospital at the moment in Wales out of a UK total of about 7000. That's almost 15% when we are less than 5% of the UK population.

What exactly are those 900 people in hospital for? Are they in intensive care? Why have they closed down that field hospital in the Millenium Stadium if things are so bad?

3.5 million people in Wales.

Hotels, bed and breakfasts, campsites, attractions, people who work in them, people who supply them, people who clean them. All being told tough shit as far as your livelihoods are concerned we've decided to keep Wales closed for the rest of the year.

You would think that Wales is the seething hotbed of the universe as far as this virus is concerned and that we must be kept strictly within a five mile radius or we'll all catch it and die.

Somebody please ask Drakeford what he's got against the Welsh people and the Welsh economy that he wants to keep the country in a stricter and longer lockdown than virtually any other country, even those whose deaths per capita are far greater than they are in Wales.

The long term effects of this bumbling prick's actions now are going to be absolutely devastating for so many people in the country he claims to represent. Won't bother him I suppose with his fat pension.

Here in st davids sure people would quite happily meet him for friendly chat as ex AM for pembs! ....... we normally get around 3k visitors a day plus all the BB visitors that use coastal path at moment it's a ghost city and will be until lockdown is ended... no point waiting for drakeford to do anything as he cant decide what to do...

Some of of the west wales locals didn't help mind approaching 2nd homeowners aggressively saying they weren't welcome at the start, I bet they want tourists back now!

This makes me worry that its a lot worse in Wales than most of the UK. Nearly 900 in hospital at the moment in Wales out of a UK total of about 7000. That's almost 15% when we are less than 5% of the UK population.

What exactly are those 900 people in hospital for? Are they in intensive care? Why have they closed down that field hospital in the Millenium Stadium if things are so bad?

3.5 million people in Wales.

Hotels, bed and breakfasts, campsites, attractions, people who work in them, people who supply them, people who clean them. All being told tough shit as far as your livelihoods are concerned we've decided to keep Wales closed for the rest of the year.

You would think that Wales is the seething hotbed of the universe as far as this virus is concerned and that we must be kept strictly within a five mile radius or we'll all catch it and die.

Somebody please ask Drakeford what he's got against the Welsh people and the Welsh economy that he wants to keep the country in a stricter and longer lockdown than virtually any other country, even those whose deaths per capita are far greater than they are in Wales.

The long term effects of this bumbling prick's actions now are going to be absolutely devastating for so many people in the country he claims to represent. Won't bother him I suppose with his fat pension.

He's Corbyn's mate a right leftie they don't give a feck about economies, just political games, what he's doing will suit his budget (hospitals/health) but to the detriment of Westminsters budget!

No one will listen to him anyway, they can't stop the thousands of cars that will be flying down the motorway from now!

Makes a lot of sense if he’s JC mate....anything to try and piss Boris off and those who will fit the bill for the huge amount of unemployed in west wales

It's ridiculous just when the tourist areas of Wales need us if they allow people to fly abroad, no one will listen he will lose the country, you have to be sensible and have a valid reason.

We need to support our own there is no way people should be supporting countries overseas at a time like this, he needs to get a grip!

It's ridiculous just when the tourist areas of Wales need us if they allow people to fly abroad, no one will listen he will lose the country, you have to be sensible and have a valid reason.

We need to support our own there is no way people should be supporting countries overseas at a time like this, he needs to get a grip!

With Spain opening up now I reckon a lot of people will fancy getting away for a break after all this. I quite fancy a trip to sa coma on Majorca this autumn, kids got 2 weeks off school....why not spend it there if Wales doesn’t want us?

This makes me worry that its a lot worse in Wales than most of the UK. Nearly 900 in hospital at the moment in Wales out of a UK total of about 7000. That's almost 15% when we are less than 5% of the UK population.

What exactly are those 900 people in hospital for? Are they in intensive care? Why have they closed down that field hospital in the Millenium Stadium if things are so bad?

3.5 million people in Wales.

Hotels, bed and breakfasts, campsites, attractions, people who work in them, people who supply them, people who clean them. All being told tough shit as far as your livelihoods are concerned we've decided to keep Wales closed for the rest of the year.

You would think that Wales is the seething hotbed of the universe as far as this virus is concerned and that we must be kept strictly within a five mile radius or we'll all catch it and die.

Somebody please ask Drakeford what he's got against the Welsh people and the Welsh economy that he wants to keep the country in a stricter and longer lockdown than virtually any other country, even those whose deaths per capita are far greater than they are in Wales.

The long term effects of this bumbling prick's actions now are going to be absolutely devastating for so many people in the country he claims to represent. Won't bother him I suppose with his fat pension.

Here in st davids sure people would quite happily meet him for friendly chat as ex AM for pembs! ....... we normally get around 3k visitors a day plus all the BB visitors that use coastal path at moment it's a ghost city and will be until lockdown is ended... no point waiting for drakeford to do anything as he cant decide what to do...

Some of of the west wales locals didn't help mind approaching 2nd homeowners aggressively saying they weren't welcome at the start, I bet they want tourists back now!

Your right never understood their stance as not that many 2nd home owners here... it's more hotels bb or caravans .. and yes they'll want them now but definitely not drakeford!

It's ridiculous just when the tourist areas of Wales need us if they allow people to fly abroad, no one will listen he will lose the country, you have to be sensible and have a valid reason.

We need to support our own there is no way people should be supporting countries overseas at a time like this, he needs to get a grip!

With Spain opening up now I reckon a lot of people will fancy getting away for a break after all this. I quite fancy a trip to sa coma on Majorca this autumn, kids got 2 weeks off school....why not spend it there if Wales doesn’t want us?

Exactly, and going through airports and into an aluminium tube with recycled air, you've got a far greater chance of getting covid 19 and infecting other people?

You can't possibly consider allowing airports to open and Wales tourist areas to remain closed, it's counterproductive?

It's ridiculous just when the tourist areas of Wales need us if they allow people to fly abroad, no one will listen he will lose the country, you have to be sensible and have a valid reason.

We need to support our own there is no way people should be supporting countries overseas at a time like this, he needs to get a grip!

Excellent post, Drakeford is a 3rd rate bureaucrat who has “opted out” of making any difficult decisions because he doesn’t have the bottle or courage

No one is going to listen to him anymore. No one I know actually sticks to the 5 mile rule because it’s ridiculous and just doesn’t make sense

The WAG is a complete waste of time and money

What is totally very wrong is if you live in Cardiff you are subject to different rules to those who live @30 miles east.

Yes I get we are stuck with a poor excuse of an elected Assembly made up of people not competent to make such important decisions. For that I blame the jingoistic one eyed nationalists and the farmers of west wales for voting for a ‘suicidal’ devolution.

Drakeford in particular is unfit for office. The WAG should be ordered by our PM to stand down and abide by UK rules.

I resent the fact that this over paid wannabee has neglected to say caravans not included.

Some of my best holidays in Porthcawl inself-contained accommodation the 70's

Caravans are self-contained accommodation

We won’t be camping this July in Pembroke then...