Our Leader Drakeford

To be fair what a difficult job he has and to an extent I understand his caution. However, some of his measures are barmy, unfair, cruel and so insular. Surely we live in a democracy and yet he seems to have total control over everything we do. He always refers to the science but nowhere does it say we should travel only within 5 miles. Pleasingly, although terribly sad for bereaved families, only 3 deaths were recorded yesterday in a population of over 3 million. He said the next changes would be small and cautious. But there is cautious and cautious and yet the education minister has gone to the opposite extremes. In one of his first moves he said libraries would open. Really - the scientific evidence clearly states that covid 19 liveS on paper. Is the idea that we go there but do not touch? More depressingly because of my job I know there are many people over 70 and live on their own have been in lockdown with little contact with the outside world. Two I know have recently become grandmothers but they cannot see the new born because they live in Cardiff and the new baby is in Swansea. My main angst and to which he seems totally unmovable on and non understanding is that many people are not lucky enough to live within 5 miles of each other. Does he really think this is the case? I know many many people who have close family living in England who they cannot see because of his rules and he has effectively said he will not even begin to look at this until mid August. This is morally wrong and dictact. In addition by the time it possibly changes we could have a second wave and another lockdown!!! In addition whilst it is correct for him to save lives he must also be wary of the collapsing economy in Wales. He has effectively said no to tourism which is bound to kill off business. He has also in effect said you can only go on holiday within 5 miles as long as it is in a caravan, mobile home etc. He said this is because you cannot share washroom and toilet facilities safely in other ways. Really. How do people who work manage then. They can’t go all day without use of the toilet. He clearly wants those people in the west to have their communities to themselves. But the beaches and countryside are for everyone to enjoy. Many people in these areas have businesses which will go bust. To be fair to those who have bought second homes why shouldn’t they go there? They pay the local rates and taxes and without it the Welsh economy would suffer more.
As a big Cardiff city supporter of many years I’m delighted that the Bluebirds will be playing soon. But how can he let opposition teams come across the border to play and yet I cannot go just across the border to see my son and sit in his garden to see him in person? Finally, I live in Cardiff and my sister lives in Barry. I cannot drive to see her because it’s 5 miles away but I can cycle there because it’s within 10 miles?
My main point is this. The WG says it is listening to the people with the implementation of its measures. Who are these people? I know scores of people who think the opposite. We need to relax this silly 5 mile rule, allow more access to our country so that we are not over insular and get the economy moving otherwise come the end of the furlough we will have no businesses and mass unemployment. We will then see if the Drakeford supporters are happy then.

Can’t believe this buffoon doesn’t get much, much more criticism!!

I fully appreciate he has a terribly difficult job at the moment but he is basically useless

The 5 mile rule is absolutely ridiculous and to be fair nobody I know sticks to it

Myself and nearly all my friends and family have pretty much stuck to the rules for the first 2 months but we are all fed up with the WAG dithering and dodgy medical advice they claim to be listening too

The last week I have seen loads more people about, loads of extra traffic and people ignoring some rules

Drakeford lacks any authority and is completely uninspiring. He needs to get the country moving and relax restrictions quicker because if he doesn’t the people of Wales will just do it anyway

I have mixed feeling over Drakeford.

He has made some really ridiculous decisions.

For instance the 5 mile rule is just madness, it shouldn't be about where or how far you are going but what you are going to do when you get there ! If you are going to a specific place, observing social distancing what difference does it make as to how long you have spent getting there in terms of infection/transmission rate ?

Why stop people deciding where they want to spend lockdown ? Right at the start he told people to return to their main homes and move out of any second homes. Why ? Surely it doesn't matter where they stay as long as they observe the guidelines. No logic.

He also risks Wales falling behind economically if he is too cautious in comparison to our neighbours. If England open up their tourism for July and August and we don't then a lot of those people might take a while to return and some of our rural economies will collapse without them.

Also, as a key worker I can spend all day every day since lockdown in an enclosed office environment with 50 odd people from different households (observing social distancing) yet I can only see my daughters (who all live separately) in my back garden one at a time and even that only since last week

The credit I will give Drakeford is that in terms of deaths, infection rates and hospital bed capacity he's done relatively well. Doubling the hospital bed capacity was a huge achievement and well ahead of the rest of the UK, even if we haven't needed it up to now.

I do worry though that in order for us to "catch up" economically with the rest of the UK he will have to accelerate easing of the lockdown too quickly, and that brings it's own risks, or we will fall behind. That cautious approach up to now might have stored up even more headaches for the recovery phase if he's not careful.

Today's announcement is indicative of his response to everything? Rest uk implemented masks in certain situations before w. h.o said anything positive about wearing them, now he comes out 2wks later than rest ok and says he's following W.H.O guidelines, whilst wearing a mask is not a garauntee to stop corvid it is helpful especially on public transport so its another pathetic attempt to act as a great leader doing own thing at expense of welsh economy though

Wales recommends three-layer face coverings

People in Wales are being asked to wear three-layer face coverings in situations where social distancing is not possible - including on public transport.

The recommendation was announced by Health Minister Vaughan Gething at a news conference on Tuesday.

It follows a similar statement by the World Health Organization last week.

The UK government has announced that from 15 June people must wear face coverings while travelling on public transport in England. From the same date, hospital visitors and outpatients in England will also have to wear face coverings and staff must use surgical masks.

I have mixed feeling over Drakeford.

He has made some really ridiculous decisions.

For instance the 5 mile rule is just madness, it shouldn't be about where or how far you are going but what you are going to do when you get there ! If you are going to a specific place, observing social distancing what difference does it make as to how long you have spent getting there in terms of infection/transmission rate ?

Why stop people deciding where they want to spend lockdown ? Right at the start he told people to return to their main homes and move out of any second homes. Why ? Surely it doesn't matter where they stay as long as they observe the guidelines. No logic.

He also risks Wales falling behind economically if he is too cautious in comparison to our neighbours. If England open up their tourism for July and August and we don't then a lot of those people might take a while to return and some of our rural economies will collapse without them.

Also, as a key worker I can spend all day every day since lockdown in an enclosed office environment with 50 odd people from different households (observing social distancing) yet I can only see my daughters (who all live separately) in my back garden one at a time and even that only since last week

The credit I will give Drakeford is that in terms of deaths, infection rates and hospital bed capacity he's done relatively well. Doubling the hospital bed capacity was a huge achievement and well ahead of the rest of the UK, even if we haven't needed it up to now.

I do worry though that in order for us to "catch up" economically with the rest of the UK he will have to accelerate easing of the lockdown too quickly, and that brings it's own risks, or we will fall behind. That cautious approach up to now might have stored up even more headaches for the recovery phase if he's not careful.

My feelings are mixed too. I can’t work out whether he’s stupid or incompetent or a bit of both.

I have mixed feeling over Drakeford.

He has made some really ridiculous decisions.

For instance the 5 mile rule is just madness, it shouldn't be about where or how far you are going but what you are going to do when you get there ! If you are going to a specific place, observing social distancing what difference does it make as to how long you have spent getting there in terms of infection/transmission rate ?

Why stop people deciding where they want to spend lockdown ? Right at the start he told people to return to their main homes and move out of any second homes. Why ? Surely it doesn't matter where they stay as long as they observe the guidelines. No logic.

He also risks Wales falling behind economically if he is too cautious in comparison to our neighbours. If England open up their tourism for July and August and we don't then a lot of those people might take a while to return and some of our rural economies will collapse without them.

Also, as a key worker I can spend all day every day since lockdown in an enclosed office environment with 50 odd people from different households (observing social distancing) yet I can only see my daughters (who all live separately) in my back garden one at a time and even that only since last week

The credit I will give Drakeford is that in terms of deaths, infection rates and hospital bed capacity he's done relatively well. Doubling the hospital bed capacity was a huge achievement and well ahead of the rest of the UK, even if we haven't needed it up to now.

I do worry though that in order for us to "catch up" economically with the rest of the UK he will have to accelerate easing of the lockdown too quickly, and that brings it's own risks, or we will fall behind. That cautious approach up to now might have stored up even more headaches for the recovery phase if he's not careful.

My feelings are mixed too. I can’t work out whether he’s stupid or incompetent or a bit of both.

All ,his two biggest mistakes are the economy and tourism, utter madness not to open non essential shops with social distancing also campsites etc ,they will be moaning in a few months that our economy is fucked

Wales recommends three-layer face coverings

People in Wales are being asked to wear three-layer face coverings in situations where social distancing is not possible - including on public transport.

The recommendation was announced by Health Minister Vaughan Gething at a news conference on Tuesday.

It follows a similar statement by the World Health Organization last week.

The UK government has announced that from 15 June people must wear face coverings while travelling on public transport in England. From the same date, hospital visitors and outpatients in England will also have to wear face coverings and staff must use surgical masks.

Another example of gross incompetence.

Why wait until the level of infections is dropping significantly before bringing in this idea of wearing masks?

Surely that should have happened months ago at the height of infections to be of any use whatsoever?

Not sure how Gething is going to be able to eat his chips with his mask on.

Bunch of clowns.

I have mixed feeling over Drakeford.

He has made some really ridiculous decisions.

For instance the 5 mile rule is just madness, it shouldn't be about where or how far you are going but what you are going to do when you get there ! If you are going to a specific place, observing social distancing what difference does it make as to how long you have spent getting there in terms of infection/transmission rate ?

Why stop people deciding where they want to spend lockdown ? Right at the start he told people to return to their main homes and move out of any second homes. Why ? Surely it doesn't matter where they stay as long as they observe the guidelines. No logic.

He also risks Wales falling behind economically if he is too cautious in comparison to our neighbours. If England open up their tourism for July and August and we don't then a lot of those people might take a while to return and some of our rural economies will collapse without them.

Also, as a key worker I can spend all day every day since lockdown in an enclosed office environment with 50 odd people from different households (observing social distancing) yet I can only see my daughters (who all live separately) in my back garden one at a time and even that only since last week

The credit I will give Drakeford is that in terms of deaths, infection rates and hospital bed capacity he's done relatively well. Doubling the hospital bed capacity was a huge achievement and well ahead of the rest of the UK, even if we haven't needed it up to now.

I do worry though that in order for us to "catch up" economically with the rest of the UK he will have to accelerate easing of the lockdown too quickly, and that brings it's own risks, or we will fall behind. That cautious approach up to now might have stored up even more headaches for the recovery phase if he's not careful.

My feelings are mixed too. I can’t work out whether he’s stupid or incompetent or a bit of both.

All ,his two biggest mistakes are the economy and tourism, utter madness not to open non essential shops with social distancing also campsites etc ,they will be moaning in a few months that our economy is fucked

With all the social and mental health problems that will cause as well.

I have mixed feeling over Drakeford.

He has made some really ridiculous decisions.

For instance the 5 mile rule is just madness, it shouldn't be about where or how far you are going but what you are going to do when you get there ! If you are going to a specific place, observing social distancing what difference does it make as to how long you have spent getting there in terms of infection/transmission rate ?

Why stop people deciding where they want to spend lockdown ? Right at the start he told people to return to their main homes and move out of any second homes. Why ? Surely it doesn't matter where they stay as long as they observe the guidelines. No logic.

He also risks Wales falling behind economically if he is too cautious in comparison to our neighbours. If England open up their tourism for July and August and we don't then a lot of those people might take a while to return and some of our rural economies will collapse without them.

Also, as a key worker I can spend all day every day since lockdown in an enclosed office environment with 50 odd people from different households (observing social distancing) yet I can only see my daughters (who all live separately) in my back garden one at a time and even that only since last week

The credit I will give Drakeford is that in terms of deaths, infection rates and hospital bed capacity he's done relatively well. Doubling the hospital bed capacity was a huge achievement and well ahead of the rest of the UK, even if we haven't needed it up to now.

I do worry though that in order for us to "catch up" economically with the rest of the UK he will have to accelerate easing of the lockdown too quickly, and that brings it's own risks, or we will fall behind. That cautious approach up to now might have stored up even more headaches for the recovery phase if he's not careful.

My feelings are mixed too. I can’t work out whether he’s stupid or incompetent or a bit of both.

All ,his two biggest mistakes are the economy and tourism, utter madness not to open non essential shops with social distancing also campsites etc ,they will be moaning in a few months that our economy is fucked

With all the social and mental health problems that will cause as well.

Agree

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

I have mixed feeling over Drakeford.

He has made some really ridiculous decisions.

For instance the 5 mile rule is just madness, it shouldn't be about where or how far you are going but what you are going to do when you get there ! If you are going to a specific place, observing social distancing what difference does it make as to how long you have spent getting there in terms of infection/transmission rate ?

Why stop people deciding where they want to spend lockdown ? Right at the start he told people to return to their main homes and move out of any second homes. Why ? Surely it doesn't matter where they stay as long as they observe the guidelines. No logic.

He also risks Wales falling behind economically if he is too cautious in comparison to our neighbours. If England open up their tourism for July and August and we don't then a lot of those people might take a while to return and some of our rural economies will collapse without them.

Also, as a key worker I can spend all day every day since lockdown in an enclosed office environment with 50 odd people from different households (observing social distancing) yet I can only see my daughters (who all live separately) in my back garden one at a time and even that only since last week

The credit I will give Drakeford is that in terms of deaths, infection rates and hospital bed capacity he's done relatively well. Doubling the hospital bed capacity was a huge achievement and well ahead of the rest of the UK, even if we haven't needed it up to now.

I do worry though that in order for us to "catch up" economically with the rest of the UK he will have to accelerate easing of the lockdown too quickly, and that brings it's own risks, or we will fall behind. That cautious approach up to now might have stored up even more headaches for the recovery phase if he's not careful.

My feelings are mixed too. I can’t work out whether he’s stupid or incompetent or a bit of both.

All ,his two biggest mistakes are the economy and tourism, utter madness not to open non essential shops with social distancing also campsites etc ,they will be moaning in a few months that our economy is fucked

With all the social and mental health problems that will cause as well.

Chatting to my neighbour who is a cancer surgeon un UHW, he reckons that far more than those who have officially died of/with covid will die because of missed appointments and scans in the last few months. Scandalous

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

He will probably Be run out of town if he doesn’t get the economy going asap

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

He will probably Be run out of town if he doesn’t get the economy going asap

Journalists not doing their jobs during the daily briefings, they don’t ask questions which put him on the spot. He gets away time and time again with his dithering and his “we have taken expert advice” bollux

To be fair what a difficult job he has and to an extent I understand his caution. However, some of his measures are barmy, unfair, cruel and so insular. Surely we live in a democracy and yet he seems to have total control over everything we do. He always refers to the science but nowhere does it say we should travel only within 5 miles. Pleasingly, although terribly sad for bereaved families, only 3 deaths were recorded yesterday in a population of over 3 million. He said the next changes would be small and cautious. But there is cautious and cautious and yet the education minister has gone to the opposite extremes. In one of his first moves he said libraries would open. Really - the scientific evidence clearly states that covid 19 liveS on paper. Is the idea that we go there but do not touch? More depressingly because of my job I know there are many people over 70 and live on their own have been in lockdown with little contact with the outside world. Two I know have recently become grandmothers but they cannot see the new born because they live in Cardiff and the new baby is in Swansea. My main angst and to which he seems totally unmovable on and non understanding is that many people are not lucky enough to live within 5 miles of each other. Does he really think this is the case? I know many many people who have close family living in England who they cannot see because of his rules and he has effectively said he will not even begin to look at this until mid August. This is morally wrong and dictact. In addition by the time it possibly changes we could have a second wave and another lockdown!!! In addition whilst it is correct for him to save lives he must also be wary of the collapsing economy in Wales. He has effectively said no to tourism which is bound to kill off business. He has also in effect said you can only go on holiday within 5 miles as long as it is in a caravan, mobile home etc. He said this is because you cannot share washroom and toilet facilities safely in other ways. Really. How do people who work manage then. They can’t go all day without use of the toilet. He clearly wants those people in the west to have their communities to themselves. But the beaches and countryside are for everyone to enjoy. Many people in these areas have businesses which will go bust. To be fair to those who have bought second homes why shouldn’t they go there? They pay the local rates and taxes and without it the Welsh economy would suffer more.
As a big Cardiff city supporter of many years I’m delighted that the Bluebirds will be playing soon. But how can he let opposition teams come across the border to play and yet I cannot go just across the border to see my son and sit in his garden to see him in person? Finally, I live in Cardiff and my sister lives in Barry. I cannot drive to see her because it’s 5 miles away but I can cycle there because it’s within 10 miles?
My main point is this. The WG says it is listening to the people with the implementation of its measures. Who are these people? I know scores of people who think the opposite. We need to relax this silly 5 mile rule, allow more access to our country so that we are not over insular and get the economy moving otherwise come the end of the furlough we will have no businesses and mass unemployment. We will then see if the Drakeford supporters are happy then.

All my family are in Porthcawl we live in Newport it's a bit of a bugger. As for the City playing
it's all a bit artificial really. I can't get excited about it.

Can’t believe this buffoon doesn’t get much, much more criticism!!

I fully appreciate he has a terribly difficult job at the moment but he is basically useless

The 5 mile rule is absolutely ridiculous and to be fair nobody I know sticks to it

Myself and nearly all my friends and family have pretty much stuck to the rules for the first 2 months but we are all fed up with the WAG dithering and dodgy medical advice they claim to be listening too

The last week I have seen loads more people about, loads of extra traffic and people ignoring some rules

Drakeford lacks any authority and is completely uninspiring. He needs to get the country moving and relax restrictions quicker because if he doesn’t the people of Wales will just do it anyway

You've obviously missed the latest polls

Can’t believe this buffoon doesn’t get much, much more criticism!!

I fully appreciate he has a terribly difficult job at the moment but he is basically useless

The 5 mile rule is absolutely ridiculous and to be fair nobody I know sticks to it

Myself and nearly all my friends and family have pretty much stuck to the rules for the first 2 months but we are all fed up with the WAG dithering and dodgy medical advice they claim to be listening too

The last week I have seen loads more people about, loads of extra traffic and people ignoring some rules

Drakeford lacks any authority and is completely uninspiring. He needs to get the country moving and relax restrictions quicker because if he doesn’t the people of Wales will just do it anyway

You've obviously missed the latest polls

They're suppose to canvass all sections of the public not just labour voters!

Can’t believe this buffoon doesn’t get much, much more criticism!!

I fully appreciate he has a terribly difficult job at the moment but he is basically useless

The 5 mile rule is absolutely ridiculous and to be fair nobody I know sticks to it

Myself and nearly all my friends and family have pretty much stuck to the rules for the first 2 months but we are all fed up with the WAG dithering and dodgy medical advice they claim to be listening too

The last week I have seen loads more people about, loads of extra traffic and people ignoring some rules

Drakeford lacks any authority and is completely uninspiring. He needs to get the country moving and relax restrictions quicker because if he doesn’t the people of Wales will just do it anyway

You've obviously missed the latest polls

They're suppose to canvass all sections of the public not just labour voters!

Nice try

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Nice weather, furlough.. who wants to go to work.

The cautious approach you speak of, is really sloth, lack of vision, and laziness. Because at the end of the day, they all get paid.
If you’re happy with Wales languishing at the bottom of almost every table, your expectations are lower than his. The man is a rag doll.

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

English playing Russian roulette. Wales has a much lower rate of excess deaths despite having an older, poorer and sicker population than England. Tories have no right to gamble with people's lives. Wales pretty much doing it right...vast majority of Welsh citizens behind him.

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

Scots behind Wales with garden centres, libraries and civic amenity centres. Will also be behind on schools, so what you said about them being ahead of us is not true. Also Scots allowing 8 people from 2 households to meet up whereas no limits in Wales, as long as from only 2 households.

I have mixed feeling over Drakeford.

He has made some really ridiculous decisions.

For instance the 5 mile rule is just madness, it shouldn't be about where or how far you are going but what you are going to do when you get there ! If you are going to a specific place, observing social distancing what difference does it make as to how long you have spent getting there in terms of infection/transmission rate ?

Why stop people deciding where they want to spend lockdown ? Right at the start he told people to return to their main homes and move out of any second homes. Why ? Surely it doesn't matter where they stay as long as they observe the guidelines. No logic.

He also risks Wales falling behind economically if he is too cautious in comparison to our neighbours. If England open up their tourism for July and August and we don't then a lot of those people might take a while to return and some of our rural economies will collapse without them.

Also, as a key worker I can spend all day every day since lockdown in an enclosed office environment with 50 odd people from different households (observing social distancing) yet I can only see my daughters (who all live separately) in my back garden one at a time and even that only since last week

The credit I will give Drakeford is that in terms of deaths, infection rates and hospital bed capacity he's done relatively well. Doubling the hospital bed capacity was a huge achievement and well ahead of the rest of the UK, even if we haven't needed it up to now.

I do worry though that in order for us to "catch up" economically with the rest of the UK he will have to accelerate easing of the lockdown too quickly, and that brings it's own risks, or we will fall behind. That cautious approach up to now might have stored up even more headaches for the recovery phase if he's not careful.

My feelings are mixed too. I can’t work out whether he’s stupid or incompetent or a bit of both.

All ,his two biggest mistakes are the economy and tourism, utter madness not to open non essential shops with social distancing also campsites etc ,they will be moaning in a few months that our economy is fucked

With all the social and mental health problems that will cause as well.

Chatting to my neighbour who is a cancer surgeon un UHW, he reckons that far more than those who have officially died of/with covid will die because of missed appointments and scans in the last few months. Scandalous

its been said from day 1 and its not just cancer patients .... shame more doctors were not far more vocal about it because its common sense.... but hey ho drakeford aint got common sense so where England play Russian roulette , Wales have every chamber full and that clown loaded the gun...

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

Currently the only country in Western Europe you cannot play tennis in ffs.....despite the fact you are usually 20 feet apart at least when playing.... fantastic eh

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

Scots behind Wales with garden centres, libraries and civic amenity centres. Will also be behind on schools, so what you said about them being ahead of us is not true. Also Scots allowing 8 people from 2 households to meet up whereas no limits in Wales, as long as from only 2 households.

So you are highlighting good points, all Drakeford is doing is trying to score political points, he aims to ooze caution but is in reality just floating a week or two behind England. The point is though, with the summer holidays looming, he will miss the boat for hundreds of thousands of people to either get away for a week or two or make some much needed cash this summer. There are hundreds of cleaners for example in Pembrokeshire who could do with some cash from turnover of holiday homes......

Moon boots, you keep defending your Messiah but I have to sit here in Ceredigion ( which has very few cases ) and watch folk from anywhere turn up to holiday cottages but I can't go down to Merthyr to visit my I'll mam !!

Yeah mate, yippee for scruffy Drakeford !!

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Never once in my entire life have I ever been asked to participate in an opinion poll so I wonder where they get these opinions from??

The opinion of every single one of the good people of Pontypool whom I speak too is that Drakeford is in fact 100% buffoon

Let’s see how these opinion polls look like I’m 2 months time when the entire Welsh economy is on its arse because of his lack of leadership

P.S are you Mark Drakeford by any chance??

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

Scots behind Wales with garden centres, libraries and civic amenity centres. Will also be behind on schools, so what you said about them being ahead of us is not true. Also Scots allowing 8 people from 2 households to meet up whereas no limits in Wales, as long as from only 2 households.

All above mentioned is going to boost the welsh economy in fact they are as much use to economy as being closed !! As for meeting people wont be that many meetings with more than 8 anyway, but we have a 5 mile limit which means in cardiff you have better chance to meet all your friends all your family ..... rural areas got no chance so thats as much use as being in same building as relatives with 3ft thick wall between them.. and schools well havent Scots made decision to open all schools a week early after school hols? So yes later than Wales but it's a decisive decision, unlike wales with will they wont they open end June so some will open some wont sounds very decisive dont you think ..

Wales recommends three-layer face coverings

People in Wales are being asked to wear three-layer face coverings in situations where social distancing is not possible - including on public transport.

The recommendation was announced by Health Minister Vaughan Gething at a news conference on Tuesday.

It follows a similar statement by the World Health Organization last week.

The UK government has announced that from 15 June people must wear face coverings while travelling on public transport in England. From the same date, hospital visitors and outpatients in England will also have to wear face coverings and staff must use surgical masks.

I wonder if the Welsh Government are going to providing the face masks they're expecting us to wear?

Oh sorry - I forgot. They want us to make our own out of an old t-shirt or similar.

Now. where did I put that old pair of y-fronts the wife was going to throw out?