Officer Shay Mikalonis shot in the back of the head point

Officer Shay Mikalonis shot in the back of the head point blank while working the riots in Las Vegas. Havent seen his face once today on social media or the news, does his life not matter? Hanging onto life support at 29 for the record every life matters, we are all equal

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Completely sums up the one sided media

This guy saying it like it is, pity more around the world do not use their brain to it's full extent

https://dl-mail.ymail.com/ws/download/m ... QqpV2neQsa

As horrific and unacceptable as the killing of George Floyd.

As horrific and unacceptable as the killing of George Floyd.

the ive read a book people and the clapping seal will be along shortly telling us its ok because black lives matter

Well said

Disgusting
#ALL lives matter

Disgusting
#ALL lives matter

Agree, mate but if the anti-political cap of some fits...

#PoliceLivesMatter

Disgusting
#ALL lives matter

Agree, mate but if the anti-political cap of some fits...

#PoliceLivesMatter

Absolutely right mate. Every single person that I’ve spoken to about the issue thinks it’s disgraceful

Disgusting
#ALL lives matter

Agree, mate but if the anti-political cap of some fits...

#PoliceLivesMatter

police lives do matter.. I cant imagine how apprehensive these young men are going out to police these riots { more so the USA } …
I watched a collection of apparent police violence towards protesters clips on another site.. surprising how many started with some dickturd in the cops face mouthing , goading , waving a stick or along with other dickturds rocking the vehicle the cop was in..
yet the fella that posted the clips seemed to miss those bits as if any behaviour is acceptable except the reaction .

As horrific and unacceptable as the killing of George Floyd.

It’s more horrific

Absolutely dreadfull act!!

Absolutely dreadfull act!!

Agree with you mate an unacceptable act

As horrific and unacceptable as the killing of George Floyd.

It’s more horrific

No, it's as horrific; in these cases both were human beings and neither deserved their fate regardless of race, creed, releigions, sexual orientation and/or the bias of any persons agendas...just or not!

As horrific and unacceptable as the killing of George Floyd.

It’s more horrific

well it was pre meditated , and the charges reflect that....

Dont want to sound pedantic but two wrongs do not make a right. The poor policeman is unfortunately fighting for his life for doing his job.

Where the two cases are different is that the perpetrator of the above act was a member of the public whilst the other was a murder by badge wearing police fficers, police officers who's job is to maintain and uphold law and order. These four officers broke that code in no uncertain terms thus not only bringing shame on the badge but possibly leading us into a very dangerous territory. You cannot have the purveyors of law and order committing 2nd (I think that's what the charge is now) degree murder. You cannot have police being law, judge and jury, our civilisation would collapse and anarchy followed by a police state would ensure.

The cop fighting for his life upheld the badge and thoughts go out to his family. The other four cops along with the gunman in los Angeles deserve all they get.

Dont want to sound pedantic but two wrongs do not make a right. The poor policeman is unfortunately fighting for his life for doing his job.

Where the two cases are different is that the perpetrator of the above act was a member of the public whilst the other was a murder by badge wearing police fficers, police officers who's job is to maintain and uphold law and order. These four officers broke that code in no uncertain terms thus not only bringing shame on the badge but possibly leading us into a very dangerous territory. You cannot have the purveyors of law and order committing 2nd (I think that's what the charge is now) degree murder. You cannot have police being law, judge and jury, our civilisation would collapse and anarchy followed by a police state would ensure.

The cop fighting for his life upheld the badge and thoughts go out to his family. The other four cops along with the gunman in los Angeles deserve all they get.

nope 2 wrongs do not make a right let alone 8 thousand wrongs..... and killing police is not ok....
spot on....

Dont want to sound pedantic but two wrongs do not make a right. The poor policeman is unfortunately fighting for his life for doing his job.

Where the two cases are different is that the perpetrator of the above act was a member of the public whilst the other was a murder by badge wearing police fficers, police officers who's job is to maintain and uphold law and order. These four officers broke that code in no uncertain terms thus not only bringing shame on the badge but possibly leading us into a very dangerous territory. You cannot have the purveyors of law and order committing 2nd (I think that's what the charge is now) degree murder. You cannot have police being law, judge and jury, our civilisation would collapse and anarchy followed by a police state would ensure.

The cop fighting for his life upheld the badge and thoughts go out to his family. The other four cops along with the gunman in los Angeles deserve all they get.

Choice between a police state or lawless land I know which one I would choose.

Dont want to sound pedantic but two wrongs do not make a right. The poor policeman is unfortunately fighting for his life for doing his job.

Where the two cases are different is that the perpetrator of the above act was a member of the public whilst the other was a murder by badge wearing police fficers, police officers who's job is to maintain and uphold law and order. These four officers broke that code in no uncertain terms thus not only bringing shame on the badge but possibly leading us into a very dangerous territory. You cannot have the purveyors of law and order committing 2nd (I think that's what the charge is now) degree murder. You cannot have police being law, judge and jury, our civilisation would collapse and anarchy followed by a police state would ensure.

The cop fighting for his life upheld the badge and thoughts go out to his family. The other four cops along with the gunman in los Angeles deserve all they get.

nope 2 wrongs do not make a right let alone 8 thousand wrongs..... and killing police is not ok....
spot on....

Two wrongs certainly don’t make a right and incidents like this weaken the argument.

However, the rascist attitude to police in US has been going on for a century plus and still incidents like Floyd happen regularly.

If people are serious about fairness then watch the documentary on Netflix called “Thirteenth”. It gives a historical perspective and also gives some possible reasons behind why it continues, including the authorities having a vested interest in filling the privately owned prisons (slightly worrying as we now have them in UK too !!).

Whatever your views after watching that you will at least see why the discontent has built up to this crescendo. You may not agree with all of it but even the most right wing of people will agree that much, not all, of the treatment of the black population is simply not right or fair.

Don’t let atrocities such as the shooting of this poor policeman deflect from the big issue.

Dont want to sound pedantic but two wrongs do not make a right. The poor policeman is unfortunately fighting for his life for doing his job.

Where the two cases are different is that the perpetrator of the above act was a member of the public whilst the other was a murder by badge wearing police fficers, police officers who's job is to maintain and uphold law and order. These four officers broke that code in no uncertain terms thus not only bringing shame on the badge but possibly leading us into a very dangerous territory. You cannot have the purveyors of law and order committing 2nd (I think that's what the charge is now) degree murder. You cannot have police being law, judge and jury, our civilisation would collapse and anarchy followed by a police state would ensure.

The cop fighting for his life upheld the badge and thoughts go out to his family. The other four cops along with the gunman in los Angeles deserve all they get.

nope 2 wrongs do not make a right let alone 8 thousand wrongs..... and killing police is not ok....
spot on....

Two wrongs certainly don’t make a right and incidents like this weaken the argument.

However, the rascist attitude to police in US has been going on for a century plus and still incidents like Floyd happen regularly.

If people are serious about fairness then watch the documentary on Netflix called “Thirteenth”. It gives a historical perspective and also gives some possible reasons behind why it continues, including the authorities having a vested interest in filling the privately owned prisons (slightly worrying as we now have them in UK too !!).

Whatever your views after watching that you will at least see why the discontent has built up to this crescendo. You may not agree with all of it but even the most right wing of people will agree that much, not all, of the treatment of the black population is simply not right or fair.

Don’t let atrocities such as the shooting of this poor policeman deflect from the big issue.

Explain to me then why USA is so racist?
They had a black president before a white female president.
Countless high ranked black police officer.
Loads of high level black politicians.
Loads of very highly paid black sports stars movie stars. How did Oprah Winfrey get to where she is like a lot of other high powered successful black people if every it’s so racist?

Two wrongs certainly don’t make a right and incidents like this weaken the argument.

However, the racist attitude to police in US has been going on for a century plus and still incidents like Floyd happen regularly.

If people are serious about fairness then watch the documentary on Netflix called “Thirteenth”. It gives a historical perspective and also gives some possible reasons behind why it continues, including the authorities having a vested interest in filling the privately owned prisons (slightly worrying as we now have them in UK too !!).

Whatever your views after watching that you will at least see why the discontent has built up to this crescendo. You may not agree with all of it but even the most right wing of people will agree that much, not all, of the treatment of the black population is simply not right or fair.

Don’t let atrocities such as the shooting of this poor policeman deflect from the big issue.

I fully support the notion of fairness we should all be treated the same.

The trouble is some people have a warped idea of what 'fairness' is. For example the 'N' word can be used by a black person openly and is included in pop songs by black singers/bands (despite the fact it is highly offensive to black people) but it is a criminal offence for me to use it because of the colour of my skin (I am white)?

Surely the 'fair' thing to do is to have a blanket ban on the word?

But we are told by the diversity industry (which is an industry riddled with self interest) that it wouldn't be 'fair' to ban black people from using the word because of historical injustices

It is nonsense like this which leads Police Officers (on duty and wearing the Uniform) to be pressured to perform political acts like taking the knee and thus appearing to take sides that Black Lives Matter but Police Lives don't.

Explain to me then why USA is so racist?
They had a black president before a white female president.
Countless high ranked black police officer.
Loads of high level black politicians.
Loads of very highly paid black sports stars movie stars. How did Oprah Winfrey get to where she is like a lot of other high powered successful black people if every it’s so racist?

You have made a great point. I would accept that there are individual acts of racism but it is not institutionalised. Many black people have made a hell of a lot of money in the USA and there are millions of poor white people.

It is more of a class thing than a racist thing.

Dont want to sound pedantic but two wrongs do not make a right. The poor policeman is unfortunately fighting for his life for doing his job.

Where the two cases are different is that the perpetrator of the above act was a member of the public whilst the other was a murder by badge wearing police fficers, police officers who's job is to maintain and uphold law and order. These four officers broke that code in no uncertain terms thus not only bringing shame on the badge but possibly leading us into a very dangerous territory. You cannot have the purveyors of law and order committing 2nd (I think that's what the charge is now) degree murder. You cannot have police being law, judge and jury, our civilisation would collapse and anarchy followed by a police state would ensure.

The cop fighting for his life upheld the badge and thoughts go out to his family. The other four cops along with the gunman in los Angeles deserve all they get.

nope 2 wrongs do not make a right let alone 8 thousand wrongs..... and killing police is not ok....
spot on....

Two wrongs certainly don’t make a right and incidents like this weaken the argument.

However, the rascist attitude to police in US has been going on for a century plus and still incidents like Floyd happen regularly.

If people are serious about fairness then watch the documentary on Netflix called “Thirteenth”. It gives a historical perspective and also gives some possible reasons behind why it continues, including the authorities having a vested interest in filling the privately owned prisons (slightly worrying as we now have them in UK too !!).

Whatever your views after watching that you will at least see why the discontent has built up to this crescendo. You may not agree with all of it but even the most right wing of people will agree that much, not all, of the treatment of the black population is simply not right or fair.

Don’t let atrocities such as the shooting of this poor policeman deflect from the big issue.

how about basing your thoughts on something more than a Netflix programme…
as for George Floyds death ..was that racial ?

Dont want to sound pedantic but two wrongs do not make a right. The poor policeman is unfortunately fighting for his life for doing his job.

Where the two cases are different is that the perpetrator of the above act was a member of the public whilst the other was a murder by badge wearing police fficers, police officers who's job is to maintain and uphold law and order. These four officers broke that code in no uncertain terms thus not only bringing shame on the badge but possibly leading us into a very dangerous territory. You cannot have the purveyors of law and order committing 2nd (I think that's what the charge is now) degree murder. You cannot have police being law, judge and jury, our civilisation would collapse and anarchy followed by a police state would ensure.

The cop fighting for his life upheld the badge and thoughts go out to his family. The other four cops along with the gunman in los Angeles deserve all they get.

nope 2 wrongs do not make a right let alone 8 thousand wrongs..... and killing police is not ok....
spot on....

Two wrongs certainly don’t make a right and incidents like this weaken the argument.

However, the rascist attitude to police in US has been going on for a century plus and still incidents like Floyd happen regularly.

If people are serious about fairness then watch the documentary on Netflix called “Thirteenth”. It gives a historical perspective and also gives some possible reasons behind why it continues, including the authorities having a vested interest in filling the privately owned prisons (slightly worrying as we now have them in UK too !!).

Whatever your views after watching that you will at least see why the discontent has built up to this crescendo. You may not agree with all of it but even the most right wing of people will agree that much, not all, of the treatment of the black population is simply not right or fair.

Don’t let atrocities such as the shooting of this poor policeman deflect from the big issue.

how about basing your thoughts on something more than a Netflix programme…
as for George Floyds death ..was that racial ?

Are you seriously suggesting that I base my views solely on a Netflix documentary I won't bother listing the books, articles that are also available because if your opinion is that shallow then I'm wasting my time anyway.

Read what I said. I said it gives "possible" reasons, I said "you may not agree". I just suggest that people look at both sides of the argument educate themselves and then decide for themselves rather than basing their view on just one perspective.

It's a matter for you whether you decide to look at information from other sources but please don't insult me by thinking one Netflix documentary has been the deciding factor on my views.

Dont want to sound pedantic but two wrongs do not make a right. The poor policeman is unfortunately fighting for his life for doing his job.

Where the two cases are different is that the perpetrator of the above act was a member of the public whilst the other was a murder by badge wearing police fficers, police officers who's job is to maintain and uphold law and order. These four officers broke that code in no uncertain terms thus not only bringing shame on the badge but possibly leading us into a very dangerous territory. You cannot have the purveyors of law and order committing 2nd (I think that's what the charge is now) degree murder. You cannot have police being law, judge and jury, our civilisation would collapse and anarchy followed by a police state would ensure.

The cop fighting for his life upheld the badge and thoughts go out to his family. The other four cops along with the gunman in los Angeles deserve all they get.

nope 2 wrongs do not make a right let alone 8 thousand wrongs..... and killing police is not ok....
spot on....

Two wrongs certainly don’t make a right and incidents like this weaken the argument.

However, the rascist attitude to police in US has been going on for a century plus and still incidents like Floyd happen regularly.

If people are serious about fairness then watch the documentary on Netflix called “Thirteenth”. It gives a historical perspective and also gives some possible reasons behind why it continues, including the authorities having a vested interest in filling the privately owned prisons (slightly worrying as we now have them in UK too !!).

Whatever your views after watching that you will at least see why the discontent has built up to this crescendo. You may not agree with all of it but even the most right wing of people will agree that much, not all, of the treatment of the black population is simply not right or fair.

Don’t let atrocities such as the shooting of this poor policeman deflect from the big issue.

how about basing your thoughts on something more than a Netflix programme…
as for George Floyds death ..was that racial ?

Are you seriously suggesting that I base my views solely on a Netflix documentary I won't bother listing the books, articles that are also available because if your opinion is that shallow then I'm wasting my time anyway.

Read what I said. I said it gives "possible" reasons, I said "you may not agree". I just suggest that people look at both sides of the argument educate themselves and then decide for themselves rather than basing their view on just one perspective.

It's a matter for you whether you decide to look at information from other sources but please don't insult me by thinking one Netflix documentary has been the deciding factor on my views.

I noticed you side stepped the question I asked on how such a racists country continually rewards black people with high powered and week paid jobs??

Tricky one for your agenda isn’t it so best ignored.

Dont want to sound pedantic but two wrongs do not make a right. The poor policeman is unfortunately fighting for his life for doing his job.

Where the two cases are different is that the perpetrator of the above act was a member of the public whilst the other was a murder by badge wearing police fficers, police officers who's job is to maintain and uphold law and order. These four officers broke that code in no uncertain terms thus not only bringing shame on the badge but possibly leading us into a very dangerous territory. You cannot have the purveyors of law and order committing 2nd (I think that's what the charge is now) degree murder. You cannot have police being law, judge and jury, our civilisation would collapse and anarchy followed by a police state would ensure.

The cop fighting for his life upheld the badge and thoughts go out to his family. The other four cops along with the gunman in los Angeles deserve all they get.

nope 2 wrongs do not make a right let alone 8 thousand wrongs..... and killing police is not ok....
spot on....

Two wrongs certainly don’t make a right and incidents like this weaken the argument.

However, the rascist attitude to police in US has been going on for a century plus and still incidents like Floyd happen regularly.

If people are serious about fairness then watch the documentary on Netflix called “Thirteenth”. It gives a historical perspective and also gives some possible reasons behind why it continues, including the authorities having a vested interest in filling the privately owned prisons (slightly worrying as we now have them in UK too !!).

Whatever your views after watching that you will at least see why the discontent has built up to this crescendo. You may not agree with all of it but even the most right wing of people will agree that much, not all, of the treatment of the black population is simply not right or fair.

Don’t let atrocities such as the shooting of this poor policeman deflect from the big issue.

how about basing your thoughts on something more than a Netflix programme…
as for George Floyds death ..was that racial ?

Are you seriously suggesting that I base my views solely on a Netflix documentary I won't bother listing the books, articles that are also available because if your opinion is that shallow then I'm wasting my time anyway.

Read what I said. I said it gives "possible" reasons, I said "you may not agree". I just suggest that people look at both sides of the argument educate themselves and then decide for themselves rather than basing their view on just one perspective.

It's a matter for you whether you decide to look at information from other sources but please don't insult me by thinking one Netflix documentary has been the deciding factor on my views.

I noticed you side stepped the question I asked on how such a racists country continually rewards black people with high powered and week paid jobs??

Tricky one for your agenda isn’t it so best ignored.

Not ignoring just can't be bothered with arguing with people on the internet who just refuse to look at the other side or even educate themselves.

However, one short effort at doing so.

This is a link to a simple graph showing average income across race in the US. It's prepared by the Agency set up by the government.

The graph shows Indian (Asian) Americans as top earners but as they represent only 1.5% of the npopulation that isn't a statistically reliable figure.

The black population at the bottom of the pile not only significantly behind the average white household income but also significantly behind the average household income for the whole of the US.

Perhaps you would like to explain the reasons behind that if, as you clearly believe, there is no racism in the US

If you can't see anything wrong with this then we'll have to agree that we are the polar opposite in our views on the subject of racism.

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Cens ... igure1.pdf

Dont want to sound pedantic but two wrongs do not make a right. The poor policeman is unfortunately fighting for his life for doing his job.

Where the two cases are different is that the perpetrator of the above act was a member of the public whilst the other was a murder by badge wearing police fficers, police officers who's job is to maintain and uphold law and order. These four officers broke that code in no uncertain terms thus not only bringing shame on the badge but possibly leading us into a very dangerous territory. You cannot have the purveyors of law and order committing 2nd (I think that's what the charge is now) degree murder. You cannot have police being law, judge and jury, our civilisation would collapse and anarchy followed by a police state would ensure.

The cop fighting for his life upheld the badge and thoughts go out to his family. The other four cops along with the gunman in los Angeles deserve all they get.

nope 2 wrongs do not make a right let alone 8 thousand wrongs..... and killing police is not ok....
spot on....

Two wrongs certainly don’t make a right and incidents like this weaken the argument.

However, the rascist attitude to police in US has been going on for a century plus and still incidents like Floyd happen regularly.

If people are serious about fairness then watch the documentary on Netflix called “Thirteenth”. It gives a historical perspective and also gives some possible reasons behind why it continues, including the authorities having a vested interest in filling the privately owned prisons (slightly worrying as we now have them in UK too !!).

Whatever your views after watching that you will at least see why the discontent has built up to this crescendo. You may not agree with all of it but even the most right wing of people will agree that much, not all, of the treatment of the black population is simply not right or fair.

Don’t let atrocities such as the shooting of this poor policeman deflect from the big issue.

how about basing your thoughts on something more than a Netflix programme…
as for George Floyds death ..was that racial ?

Are you seriously suggesting that I base my views solely on a Netflix documentary I won't bother listing the books, articles that are also available because if your opinion is that shallow then I'm wasting my time anyway.

Read what I said. I said it gives "possible" reasons, I said "you may not agree". I just suggest that people look at both sides of the argument educate themselves and then decide for themselves rather than basing their view on just one perspective.

It's a matter for you whether you decide to look at information from other sources but please don't insult me by thinking one Netflix documentary has been the deciding factor on my views.

I noticed you side stepped the question I asked on how such a racists country continually rewards black people with high powered and week paid jobs??

Tricky one for your agenda isn’t it so best ignored.

Not ignoring just can't be bothered with arguing with people on the internet who just refuse to look at the other side or even educate themselves.

However, one short effort at doing so.

This is a link to a simple graph showing average income across race in the US. It's prepared by the Agency set up by the government.

The graph shows Indian (Asian) Americans as top earners but as they represent only 1.5% of the npopulation that isn't a statistically reliable figure.

The black population at the bottom of the pile not only significantly behind the average white household income but also significantly behind the average household income for the whole of the US.

Perhaps you would like to explain the reasons behind that if, as you clearly believe, there is no racism in the US

If you can't see anything wrong with this then we'll have to agree that we are the polar opposite in our views on the subject of racism.

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Cens ... igure1.pdf

We can. All throw up graphs that fit like the much larger number of whites than blacks killed by police. But like yours that in its self doesn’t prove a thing about racism.

Dont want to sound pedantic but two wrongs do not make a right. The poor policeman is unfortunately fighting for his life for doing his job.

Where the two cases are different is that the perpetrator of the above act was a member of the public whilst the other was a murder by badge wearing police fficers, police officers who's job is to maintain and uphold law and order. These four officers broke that code in no uncertain terms thus not only bringing shame on the badge but possibly leading us into a very dangerous territory. You cannot have the purveyors of law and order committing 2nd (I think that's what the charge is now) degree murder. You cannot have police being law, judge and jury, our civilisation would collapse and anarchy followed by a police state would ensure.

The cop fighting for his life upheld the badge and thoughts go out to his family. The other four cops along with the gunman in los Angeles deserve all they get.

nope 2 wrongs do not make a right let alone 8 thousand wrongs..... and killing police is not ok....
spot on....

Two wrongs certainly don’t make a right and incidents like this weaken the argument.

However, the rascist attitude to police in US has been going on for a century plus and still incidents like Floyd happen regularly.

If people are serious about fairness then watch the documentary on Netflix called “Thirteenth”. It gives a historical perspective and also gives some possible reasons behind why it continues, including the authorities having a vested interest in filling the privately owned prisons (slightly worrying as we now have them in UK too !!).

Whatever your views after watching that you will at least see why the discontent has built up to this crescendo. You may not agree with all of it but even the most right wing of people will agree that much, not all, of the treatment of the black population is simply not right or fair.

Don’t let atrocities such as the shooting of this poor policeman deflect from the big issue.

how about basing your thoughts on something more than a Netflix programme…
as for George Floyds death ..was that racial ?

Are you seriously suggesting that I base my views solely on a Netflix documentary I won't bother listing the books, articles that are also available because if your opinion is that shallow then I'm wasting my time anyway.

Read what I said. I said it gives "possible" reasons, I said "you may not agree". I just suggest that people look at both sides of the argument educate themselves and then decide for themselves rather than basing their view on just one perspective.

It's a matter for you whether you decide to look at information from other sources but please don't insult me by thinking one Netflix documentary has been the deciding factor on my views.

I noticed you side stepped the question I asked on how such a racists country continually rewards black people with high powered and week paid jobs??

Tricky one for your agenda isn’t it so best ignored.

Not ignoring just can't be bothered with arguing with people on the internet who just refuse to look at the other side or even educate themselves.

However, one short effort at doing so.

This is a link to a simple graph showing average income across race in the US. It's prepared by the Agency set up by the government.

The graph shows Indian (Asian) Americans as top earners but as they represent only 1.5% of the npopulation that isn't a statistically reliable figure.

The black population at the bottom of the pile not only significantly behind the average white household income but also significantly behind the average household income for the whole of the US.

Perhaps you would like to explain the reasons behind that if, as you clearly believe, there is no racism in the US

If you can't see anything wrong with this then we'll have to agree that we are the polar opposite in our views on the subject of racism.

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Cens ... igure1.pdf

We can. All throw up graphs that fit like the much larger number of whites than blacks killed by police. But like yours that in its self doesn’t prove a thing about racism.

OK, you're right I'm wrong

I didn't "throw up" the graph, the US Government census did

However, you've raised a point that hardly strengthens your case. You are correct, there are more whites killed by police than blacks, however, whites represent 72.4% of the US population whilst blacks represent just 12.6%. Therefore, if there were equal levels of killings across the races you would expect the number of whites killed by police to be around 6 times that of blacks.

As you can see from the following graph (you clearly love graphs) that is nowhere near the case (it's just over double) !!

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585 ... e-by-race/

https://www.bing.com/search?q=what+perc ... 376f905e90

This difference is even more stark if you include Hispanics in the ethnic minority count.

I'm not even claiming it tells the full story but I would certainly welcome your explanation as to why there is such a divergence .............. then again I'm not really sure I'm that bothered with your view anymore after that last ill thought out response.