Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:35 pm
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Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:42 am
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:32 am
Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:33 am
Chippy82 wrote:Dear god if there wasnt wide spread rioting looting buildings getting burnt down homes etc etc then there wouldnt be a issue but has all of that escaped you're attention aswell what's he supposed to do ???
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:20 am
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:31 am
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:34 am
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:36 am
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:40 am
Ironsgeman wrote:No body is defending rioters or looters they are being dear with by the respective states by use of the police and the national guard in a way governors of each state sees fit. Trump is pouring petrol on these fires for political gain. Last night he decided to break up a peaceful demonstration by use of force for a photo holding a bible outside a church. Moments before the use of rubber bullets and tear gas the police were kneeling on the in a show of unity with the protesters.
Trump fires off statements that are not grounded in fact and threatens to do things he doesn’t have the power to do. Presidents from the past have shown leadership and tried to bring the country together ,this one seems to relish In division. Trump is only interested in himself and and his hold on power
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:42 am
piledriver64 wrote:Chippy82 wrote:Dear god if there wasnt wide spread rioting looting buildings getting burnt down homes etc etc then there wouldnt be a issue but has all of that escaped you're attention aswell what's he supposed to do ???
How about coming out and stating that the police officer was who put his knee into the back of the guy's neck for 9 minutes was wrong cannot be defended in any way (particularly as it wasn't the first time !) ?
How about ensuring that he publicly states that the police officer's assisting were also wrong and should be brought to justice ?
How about taking the same conciliatory approach that a number of other police forces did when accompanying peaceful protestors ?
It was only a matter of time before Trump divided his country to this extent. The man is an imbecile and, frankly, I do wonder whether at the age of 73 some sort of dementia is setting in. His responses are childlike and ill thought out.
This isn't going to end well and it's taking the US race relations back to the 60s. Do people really want to go back to those abhorrent days of the KKK ?
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:50 am
piledriver64 wrote:Chippy82 wrote:Dear god if there wasnt wide spread rioting looting buildings getting burnt down homes etc etc then there wouldnt be a issue but has all of that escaped you're attention aswell what's he supposed to do ???
How about coming out and stating that the police officer was who put his knee into the back of the guy's neck for 9 minutes was wrong cannot be defended in any way (particularly as it wasn't the first time !) ?
How about ensuring that he publicly states that the police officer's assisting were also wrong and should be brought to justice ?
How about taking the same conciliatory approach that a number of other police forces did when accompanying peaceful protestors ?
It was only a matter of time before Trump divided his country to this extent. The man is an imbecile and, frankly, I do wonder whether at the age of 73 some sort of dementia is setting in. His responses are childlike and ill thought out.
This isn't going to end well and it's taking the US race relations back to the 60s. Do people really want to go back to those abhorrent days of the KKK ?
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:57 am
Ironsgeman wrote:2 million more Americans voted for Clinton than voted for Trump.
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:02 am
rumpo kid wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Chippy82 wrote:Dear god if there wasnt wide spread rioting looting buildings getting burnt down homes etc etc then there wouldnt be a issue but has all of that escaped you're attention aswell what's he supposed to do ???
How about coming out and stating that the police officer was who put his knee into the back of the guy's neck for 9 minutes was wrong cannot be defended in any way (particularly as it wasn't the first time !) ?
How about ensuring that he publicly states that the police officer's assisting were also wrong and should be brought to justice ?
How about taking the same conciliatory approach that a number of other police forces did when accompanying peaceful protestors ?
It was only a matter of time before Trump divided his country to this extent. The man is an imbecile and, frankly, I do wonder whether at the age of 73 some sort of dementia is setting in. His responses are childlike and ill thought out.
This isn't going to end well and it's taking the US race relations back to the 60s. Do people really want to go back to those abhorrent days of the KKK ?
Your'e suggesting he overrides the rule of law? If he did he'd end up in court. He can't interfere with the administration of justice.
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:03 am
Ironsgeman wrote:No body is defending rioters or looters they are being dear with by the respective states by use of the police and the national guard in a way governors of each state sees fit. Trump is pouring petrol on these fires for political gain. Last night he decided to break up a peaceful demonstration by use of force for a photo holding a bible outside a church. Moments before the use of rubber bullets and tear gas the police were kneeling on the in a show of unity with the protesters.
Trump fires off statements that are not grounded in fact and threatens to do things he doesn’t have the power to do. Presidents from the past have shown leadership and tried to bring the country together ,this one seems to relish In division. Trump is only interested in himself and and his hold on power
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:04 am
skidemin wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Chippy82 wrote:Dear god if there wasnt wide spread rioting looting buildings getting burnt down homes etc etc then there wouldnt be a issue but has all of that escaped you're attention aswell what's he supposed to do ???
How about coming out and stating that the police officer was who put his knee into the back of the guy's neck for 9 minutes was wrong cannot be defended in any way (particularly as it wasn't the first time !) ?
How about ensuring that he publicly states that the police officer's assisting were also wrong and should be brought to justice ?
How about taking the same conciliatory approach that a number of other police forces did when accompanying peaceful protestors ?
It was only a matter of time before Trump divided his country to this extent. The man is an imbecile and, frankly, I do wonder whether at the age of 73 some sort of dementia is setting in. His responses are childlike and ill thought out.
This isn't going to end well and it's taking the US race relations back to the 60s. Do people really want to go back to those abhorrent days of the KKK ?
try reading the important bit..not just the bit you've coloured red....
im sure your views would be completely different if you owned one of those shops on fire...in hospital trying to defend your shop or had police officer son or daughter being taunted and attacked by scumbags..
as for childlike ill thought out responses.. really not much thought gone into what yours would be..
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:05 am
piledriver64 wrote:rumpo kid wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Chippy82 wrote:Dear god if there wasnt wide spread rioting looting buildings getting burnt down homes etc etc then there wouldnt be a issue but has all of that escaped you're attention aswell what's he supposed to do ???
How about coming out and stating that the police officer was who put his knee into the back of the guy's neck for 9 minutes was wrong cannot be defended in any way (particularly as it wasn't the first time !) ?
How about ensuring that he publicly states that the police officer's assisting were also wrong and should be brought to justice ?
How about taking the same conciliatory approach that a number of other police forces did when accompanying peaceful protestors ?
It was only a matter of time before Trump divided his country to this extent. The man is an imbecile and, frankly, I do wonder whether at the age of 73 some sort of dementia is setting in. His responses are childlike and ill thought out.
This isn't going to end well and it's taking the US race relations back to the 60s. Do people really want to go back to those abhorrent days of the KKK ?
Your'e suggesting he overrides the rule of law? If he did he'd end up in court. He can't interfere with the administration of justice.
No I'm not, but he can still express an opinion, he's not usually shy in expressing one.
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:12 am
absolute nonsenseIronsgeman wrote:Donald Trump is doing his best to start a race war in the states. Telling State governments that he is going deploy the military (which he has no power to do) into their states.In the last few minutes he has got the police and military in Washington DC to break up a peaceful protest outside the Whitehouse so he could walk across to a church and hold up the Bible. This was a planned and considered move to appeal to his base and claim to be a God fearing and upright man. I bet Trump hasn’t been near a Bible since his swearing in. The man is mad and dangerous I hope to f**k he doesn’t get back into power God knows what he’ll do.
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:12 am
Ironsgeman wrote:2 million more Americans voted for Clinton than voted for Trump.
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:19 am
skidemin wrote:piledriver64 wrote:rumpo kid wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Chippy82 wrote:Dear god if there wasnt wide spread rioting looting buildings getting burnt down homes etc etc then there wouldnt be a issue but has all of that escaped you're attention aswell what's he supposed to do ???
How about coming out and stating that the police officer was who put his knee into the back of the guy's neck for 9 minutes was wrong cannot be defended in any way (particularly as it wasn't the first time !) ?
How about ensuring that he publicly states that the police officer's assisting were also wrong and should be brought to justice ?
How about taking the same conciliatory approach that a number of other police forces did when accompanying peaceful protestors ?
It was only a matter of time before Trump divided his country to this extent. The man is an imbecile and, frankly, I do wonder whether at the age of 73 some sort of dementia is setting in. His responses are childlike and ill thought out.
This isn't going to end well and it's taking the US race relations back to the 60s. Do people really want to go back to those abhorrent days of the KKK ?
Your'e suggesting he overrides the rule of law? If he did he'd end up in court. He can't interfere with the administration of justice.
No I'm not, but he can still express an opinion, he's not usually shy in expressing one.
you did suggest that....
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:26 am
Ironsgeman wrote:No body is defending rioters or looters they are being dear with by the respective states by use of the police and the national guard in a way governors of each state sees fit. Trump is pouring petrol on these fires for political gain. Last night he decided to break up a peaceful demonstration by use of force for a photo holding a bible outside a church. Moments before the use of rubber bullets and tear gas the police were kneeling on the in a show of unity with the protesters.
Trump fires off statements that are not grounded in fact and threatens to do things he doesn’t have the power to do. Presidents from the past have shown leadership and tried to bring the country together ,this one seems to relish In division. Trump is only interested in himself and and his hold on power
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:27 am
Jock wrote:Black Nike’s Matter.
A guy killed by police happens to be black so to protest and honour his memory thousands riot loot and steal. George Floyds sister stated he loved Minneapolis and it would have broke his heart to see it ablaze yet it carries on. I watched a video of a white guy with mental health issues killed by NYPD in a very similar way, no marches, no protests, no violence and no looting? This is not down to Trump, though his looting/shooting quote was crass and stupid, it’s down to extreme Leftwing mobs like BLM and Antifa whipping up opportunist criminals and scum like BBC and CNN legitimising their actions.
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:30 am
piledriver64 wrote:skidemin wrote:piledriver64 wrote:rumpo kid wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Chippy82 wrote:Dear god if there wasnt wide spread rioting looting buildings getting burnt down homes etc etc then there wouldnt be a issue but has all of that escaped you're attention aswell what's he supposed to do ???
How about coming out and stating that the police officer was who put his knee into the back of the guy's neck for 9 minutes was wrong cannot be defended in any way (particularly as it wasn't the first time !) ?
How about ensuring that he publicly states that the police officer's assisting were also wrong and should be brought to justice ?
How about taking the same conciliatory approach that a number of other police forces did when accompanying peaceful protestors ?
It was only a matter of time before Trump divided his country to this extent. The man is an imbecile and, frankly, I do wonder whether at the age of 73 some sort of dementia is setting in. His responses are childlike and ill thought out.
This isn't going to end well and it's taking the US race relations back to the 60s. Do people really want to go back to those abhorrent days of the KKK ?
Your'e suggesting he overrides the rule of law? If he did he'd end up in court. He can't interfere with the administration of justice.
No I'm not, but he can still express an opinion, he's not usually shy in expressing one.
you did suggest that....
Where ? Read what I said again.
Nothing wrong with him expressing an opinion on this just like everything else. He can't act on that opinion, that's for the prosecutors, judge and jury.
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:51 am
Ironsgeman wrote:2 million more Americans voted for Clinton than voted for Trump.
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:54 am
piledriver64 wrote:skidemin wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Chippy82 wrote:Dear god if there wasnt wide spread rioting looting buildings getting burnt down homes etc etc then there wouldnt be a issue but has all of that escaped you're attention aswell what's he supposed to do ???
How about coming out and stating that the police officer was who put his knee into the back of the guy's neck for 9 minutes was wrong cannot be defended in any way (particularly as it wasn't the first time !) ?
How about ensuring that he publicly states that the police officer's assisting were also wrong and should be brought to justice ?
How about taking the same conciliatory approach that a number of other police forces did when accompanying peaceful protestors ?
It was only a matter of time before Trump divided his country to this extent. The man is an imbecile and, frankly, I do wonder whether at the age of 73 some sort of dementia is setting in. His responses are childlike and ill thought out.
This isn't going to end well and it's taking the US race relations back to the 60s. Do people really want to go back to those abhorrent days of the KKK ?
try reading the important bit..not just the bit you've coloured red....
im sure your views would be completely different if you owned one of those shops on fire...in hospital trying to defend your shop or had police officer son or daughter being taunted and attacked by scumbags..
as for childlike ill thought out responses.. really not much thought gone into what yours would be..
I'm not defending the looting it actually distracts from the fact that some many blacks are killed by US police every year. Many, if carrying a gun, will have been lawfully shot but many die due to brutality based on their colour, time to change.
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:56 am
skidemin wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Chippy82 wrote:Dear god if there wasnt wide spread rioting looting buildings getting burnt down homes etc etc then there wouldnt be a issue but has all of that escaped you're attention aswell what's he supposed to do ???
How about coming out and stating that the police officer was who put his knee into the back of the guy's neck for 9 minutes was wrong cannot be defended in any way (particularly as it wasn't the first time !) ?
How about ensuring that he publicly states that the police officer's assisting were also wrong and should be brought to justice ?
How about taking the same conciliatory approach that a number of other police forces did when accompanying peaceful protestors ?
It was only a matter of time before Trump divided his country to this extent. The man is an imbecile and, frankly, I do wonder whether at the age of 73 some sort of dementia is setting in. His responses are childlike and ill thought out.
This isn't going to end well and it's taking the US race relations back to the 60s. Do people really want to go back to those abhorrent days of the KKK ?
try reading the important bit..not just the bit you've coloured red....
im sure your views would be completely different if you owned one of those shops on fire...in hospital trying to defend your shop or had police officer son or daughter being taunted and attacked by scumbags..
as for childlike ill thought out responses.. really not much thought gone into what yours would be..
Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:11 am
Chippy82 wrote:skidemin wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Chippy82 wrote:Dear god if there wasnt wide spread rioting looting buildings getting burnt down homes etc etc then there wouldnt be a issue but has all of that escaped you're attention aswell what's he supposed to do ???
How about coming out and stating that the police officer was who put his knee into the back of the guy's neck for 9 minutes was wrong cannot be defended in any way (particularly as it wasn't the first time !) ?
How about ensuring that he publicly states that the police officer's assisting were also wrong and should be brought to justice ?
How about taking the same conciliatory approach that a number of other police forces did when accompanying peaceful protestors ?
It was only a matter of time before Trump divided his country to this extent. The man is an imbecile and, frankly, I do wonder whether at the age of 73 some sort of dementia is setting in. His responses are childlike and ill thought out.
This isn't going to end well and it's taking the US race relations back to the 60s. Do people really want to go back to those abhorrent days of the KKK ?
try reading the important bit..not just the bit you've coloured red....
im sure your views would be completely different if you owned one of those shops on fire...in hospital trying to defend your shop or had police officer son or daughter being taunted and attacked by scumbags..
as for childlike ill thought out responses.. really not much thought gone into what yours would be..
What's sad theres a lot of people who think the vast rioting is correct and the celebs who have rightfully condemned the killing none have pleaded for rioting to stop
Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:18 am
Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:21 am
piledriver64 wrote:skidemin wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Chippy82 wrote:Dear god if there wasnt wide spread rioting looting buildings getting burnt down homes etc etc then there wouldnt be a issue but has all of that escaped you're attention aswell what's he supposed to do ???
How about coming out and stating that the police officer was who put his knee into the back of the guy's neck for 9 minutes was wrong cannot be defended in any way (particularly as it wasn't the first time !) ?
How about ensuring that he publicly states that the police officer's assisting were also wrong and should be brought to justice ?
How about taking the same conciliatory approach that a number of other police forces did when accompanying peaceful protestors ?
It was only a matter of time before Trump divided his country to this extent. The man is an imbecile and, frankly, I do wonder whether at the age of 73 some sort of dementia is setting in. His responses are childlike and ill thought out.
This isn't going to end well and it's taking the US race relations back to the 60s. Do people really want to go back to those abhorrent days of the KKK ?
try reading the important bit..not just the bit you've coloured red....
im sure your views would be completely different if you owned one of those shops on fire...in hospital trying to defend your shop or had police officer son or daughter being taunted and attacked by scumbags..
as for childlike ill thought out responses.. really not much thought gone into what yours would be..
I'm not defending the looting it actually distracts from the fact that some many blacks are killed by US police every year. Many, if carrying a gun, will have been lawfully shot but many die due to brutality based on their colour, time to change.
Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:23 am
G3vans wrote:I rarely post on this board nowadays, but some of the warped views and misinformation on this topic has left me dumfounded and very disappointed.
This isn't about the the left or the right. This isn't purely about Trump(although his handling of this situation, like most things race related has been horrific). This is about minorites being unfairly targeted time and time again. This is about racism. If a certain demographic are shouting this loud, maybe it's time to listen rather than dismiss them like a lot of ignorant people (who quite frankly have NO idea what these people feel like) are doing so in this thread.
Police in America are disproportionately violent against black people. This is shown consistently in facts and figures. This isn't some left wing conspiracy, and this isn't people just playing the race card, this is the reality. Black Americans, criminals or innocent, feel unfairly targeted and victimized by police and they have every right to.
I do not agree with violence and looting, but let's set a few things straight that haven't been mentioned in this thread. It is a minority of people doing the looting, so please don't confuse me them with the many peaceful protesters. The police have been VERY heavy-handed against peaceful protesters and journalists; there is plenty of footage online to showcase this.