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Could the Cheltenham festival have caused Newport

Tue May 26, 2020 7:50 am

I know they aren’t exactly 2 towns next to each other But Cheltenham is close to the South wales border. I just wondered if the fact the festival ent ahead could have been part of the cause of high numbers of cases in Newport early on. Just a thought as Some people would have travelled to Cheltenham and back via or through Newport.

Re: Could the Cheltenham festival have caused Newport

Tue May 26, 2020 8:07 am

YES Is the answer as a mate of mine who i was in school with and lives in Cardiff was shown / spoken too by BBC Wales .

He said he proberby got it from when he went to Cheltenham .

There was also other events going on around that area that week also - But Cheltenham people came from all over the UK .

Re: Could the Cheltenham festival have caused Newport

Tue May 26, 2020 11:19 am

Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:I know they aren’t exactly 2 towns next to each other But Cheltenham is close to the South wales border. I just wondered if the fact the festival ent ahead could have been part of the cause of high numbers of cases in Newport early on. Just a thought as Some people would have travelled to Cheltenham and back via or through Newport.





Possibly, but I suspect that for everyone who goes to the Cheltenham form Gwent there's a hundred or more who go there from Ireland. Maybe a lot working around the hospitality I suppose.

Re: Could the Cheltenham festival have caused Newport

Tue May 26, 2020 11:40 am

Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:I know they aren’t exactly 2 towns next to each other But Cheltenham is close to the South wales border. I just wondered if the fact the festival ent ahead could have been part of the cause of high numbers of cases in Newport early on. Just a thought as Some people would have travelled to Cheltenham and back via or through Newport.



its the same sort of distance to Newport as it is Birmingham, Coventry and Bristol./.. but without cases being traced at the time its just guessing.. I was in Minehead for an adult weekend the following weekend which was rammed..as were city/town centre all over the country.. but people love having something to blame.

Re: Could the Cheltenham festival have caused Newport

Tue May 26, 2020 11:42 am

Newport has a lower cases per 100,000 population than

Denbighshire
Cardiff
RCT
Merthyr


With my Phd in hindsight its obvious that mass sporting events contributed to the spread, I was still going planning to the Cardiff Leeds game though :o We need to dig up that thread.

A genuine question for me is are we all destined to have this virus at some time ? Can a borderless virus ever be stopped ? Does it hit 30% ~ 50% of the population then die down, because it has less hosts. Are the good countries now destined for spike whereas the hardest hit regions less susceptible for the second wave?

Nearly all the threads for the last four days have been about truthfulness and open honesty. Did the government mention "herd immunity" and the media freaked so they rolled it back.

I say all this because Newport and region were initially hit hard, but Denbighshire, miles from Cheltenham surpassed them and to a greater extent Cardiff, RCT and Merthyr.
Are we waiting for the first wave to rock into town and we only delay it. I AM NOT ADVOCATING WE DO THIS before the usual hysteria starts

Re: Could the Cheltenham festival have caused Newport

Tue May 26, 2020 12:10 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Newport has a lower cases per 100,000 population than

Denbighshire
Cardiff
RCT
Merthyr


With my Phd in hindsight its obvious that mass sporting events contributed to the spread, I was still going planning to the Cardiff Leeds game though :o We need to dig up that thread.

A genuine question for me is are we all destined to have this virus at some time ? Can a borderless virus ever be stopped ? Does it hit 30% ~ 50% of the population then die down, because it has less hosts. Are the good countries now destined for spike whereas the hardest hit regions less susceptible for the second wave?

Nearly all the threads for the last four days have been about truthfulness and open honesty. Did the government mention "herd immunity" and the media freaked so they rolled it back.

I say all this because Newport and region were initially hit hard, but Denbighshire, miles from Cheltenham surpassed them and to a greater extent Cardiff, RCT and Merthyr.
Are we waiting for the first wave to rock into town and we only delay it. I AM NOT ADVOCATING WE DO THIS before the usual hysteria starts



some good points/questions.. not sure about the sporting events though.. the point being made at the time about minimum contact despite big numbers and it being more contagious by having people closer together in small areas has been proved correct by the enormous death toll of same premises deaths caused by lock down.... Liverpool was not hit harder than many areas surrounding Liverpool.. as I said above City centres were very busy the weekend after the game at Anfield and Cheltenham with people roaming in groups from one rammed pub to another.. was Cheltenham times a hundred.