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“ Very interesting “

Thu May 14, 2020 11:43 am

Survival Rate

What they are saying:


The panic is only because there is no vaccine or cure and they are worried too many infections will overrun Health Services worldwide.

It wont be any worse than flu for most
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Re: “ Very interesting “

Thu May 14, 2020 12:21 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Survival Rate

What they are saying:


The panic is only because there is no vaccine or cure and they are worried too many infections will overrun Health Services worldwide.

It wont be any worse than flu for most


I think those stats are based on the total citizens in each country Annis vs those that have sadly died, not the number of confirmed cases. I think the true survival rate based on confirmed cases globally with a final outcome is about 85% globally, that number has improved by about 7% in the last fortnight so grounds for optimism. Hope you are staying well.

Re: “ Very interesting “

Thu May 14, 2020 12:25 pm

Annis,

That's very interesting.

I guess many elderly and people who have underlying health issues are also able to survive having the virus.

Yet still millions and millions of people are still absolutely terrified of catching the virus even when their chances of actually dying from it is so tiny and our way of life has been altered seemingly forever.

Many questions to answer in years to come about the way this outbreak has been dealt with around the world I think.

Re: “ Very interesting “

Thu May 14, 2020 12:36 pm

That is not the survival rate thou That is not based on the people who have caught the virus but on whole population.

Re: “ Very interesting “

Thu May 14, 2020 12:36 pm

dorsetblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Survival Rate

What they are saying:


The panic is only because there is no vaccine or cure and they are worried too many infections will overrun Health Services worldwide.

It wont be any worse than flu for most


I think those stats are based on the total citizens in each country Annis vs those that have sadly died, not the number of confirmed cases. I think the true survival rate based on confirmed cases globally with a final outcome is about 85% globally, that number has improved by about 7% in the last fortnight so grounds for optimism. Hope you are staying well.



That's the case, massive majorities in those countries haven't had the disease. Less than 0.5% have had it in the Czech Republic and less than 1% in Hungary for instance. Will be interesting when they start testing to see how many of had it in the UK, Italy, Spain and France and compare that with countries that have faired better. Nobodies dealing with the virus very well, its just likely that some are much better at keeping it out.

Re: “ Very interesting “

Thu May 14, 2020 12:45 pm

Based on worldometer facts that reports in all the countries based on cases that have come to a conclusion Either cured or died

15% of people have died There is still 2.4 million cases still in progress I know no one can be accurate with figures but this is from their figures

Re: “ Very interesting “

Thu May 14, 2020 12:55 pm

Abergavenny wrote:That is not the survival rate thou That is not based on the people who have caught the virus but on whole population.



If that was the case in the UK 65.65Million and 33186 deaths = 0.0005055 have died so the not died from Corona rate would be
99.9994945%. Over 80% are over the age of 75 with serious life-shortening health conditions.

At least 10% of the UK population have had it (my assumption from the various reports) then with 33186 deaths that would be a death rate of 0.00505499 so the not died from corona figure would be 99.9949501%

Basically if your under 40 and not fat as feck, with no underlying health conditions you've got a minimal chance of dying of covid 19%.

Survival figures won't know all the people who have had it, but 230,000 have tested positive, so based on that is would change to 98.56%, but everyone knows that would be a wrong assumption.

Re: “ Very interesting “

Thu May 14, 2020 1:01 pm

epping blue wrote:
dorsetblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Survival Rate

What they are saying:


The panic is only because there is no vaccine or cure and they are worried too many infections will overrun Health Services worldwide.

It wont be any worse than flu for most


I think those stats are based on the total citizens in each country Annis vs those that have sadly died, not the number of confirmed cases. I think the true survival rate based on confirmed cases globally with a final outcome is about 85% globally, that number has improved by about 7% in the last fortnight so grounds for optimism. Hope you are staying well.



That's the case, massive majorities in those countries haven't had the disease. Less than 0.5% have had it in the Czech Republic and less than 1% in Hungary for instance. Will be interesting when they start testing to see how many of had it in the UK, Italy, Spain and France and compare that with countries that have faired better. Nobodies dealing with the virus very well, its just likely that some are much better at keeping it out.


Germany and Greece are apparently doing well, as are Soth Korea, Australie and New Zealand.

Re: “ Very interesting “

Thu May 14, 2020 1:06 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Abergavenny wrote:That is not the survival rate thou That is not based on the people who have caught the virus but on whole population.



If that was the case in the UK 65.65Million and 33186 deaths = 0.0005055 have died so the not died from Corona rate would be
99.9994945%. Over 80% are over the age of 75 with serious life-shortening health conditions.

At least 10% of the UK population have had it (my assumption from the various reports) then with 33186 deaths that would be a death rate of 0.00505499 so the not died from corona figure would be 99.9949501%

Basically if your under 40 and not fat as feck, with no underlying health conditions you've got a minimal chance of dying of covid 19%.

Survival figures won't know all the people who have had it, but 230,000 have tested positive, so based on that is would change to 98.56%, but everyone knows that would be a wrong assumption.



The thing is we have very little idea how many people have had it here. For the 6 weeks around the height of the infection we were only testing those sick enough to end up in hospital. It could well be 10%, hopefully its even higher.

Re: “ Very interesting “

Thu May 14, 2020 1:11 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Abergavenny wrote:That is not the survival rate thou That is not based on the people who have caught the virus but on whole population.



If that was the case in the UK 65.65Million and 33186 deaths = 0.0005055 have died so the not died from Corona rate would be
99.9994945%. Over 80% are over the age of 75 with serious life-shortening health conditions.

At least 10% of the UK population have had it (my assumption from the various reports) then with 33186 deaths that would be a death rate of 0.00505499 so the not died from corona figure would be 99.9949501%

Basically if your under 40 and not fat as feck, with no underlying health conditions you've got a minimal chance of dying of covid 19%.

Survival figures won't know all the people who have had it, but 230,000 have tested positive, so based on that is would change to 98.56%, but everyone knows that would be a wrong assumption.

Based on 10% of population getting as you stated and a 33186 died Is just over 0.5 death rate who have had it not not 0.005

Re: “ Very interesting “

Thu May 14, 2020 1:31 pm

Abergavenny wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Abergavenny wrote:That is not the survival rate thou That is not based on the people who have caught the virus but on whole population.



If that was the case in the UK 65.65Million and 33186 deaths = 0.0005055 have died so the not died from Corona rate would be
99.9994945%. Over 80% are over the age of 75 with serious life-shortening health conditions.

At least 10% of the UK population have had it (my assumption from the various reports) then with 33186 deaths that would be a death rate of 0.00505499 so the not died from corona figure would be 99.9949501%

Basically if your under 40 and not fat as feck, with no underlying health conditions you've got a minimal chance of dying of covid 19%.

Survival figures won't know all the people who have had it, but 230,000 have tested positive, so based on that is would change to 98.56%, but everyone knows that would be a wrong assumption.

Based on 10% of population getting as you stated and a 33186 died Is just over 0.5 death rate who have had it not not 0.005



I stand corrected I definitely can't multitask, we really need to know how many have had it, then we will really know!

Roche has a test which is 99.8 accurate in saying when someone has the virus, and hopefully that will give us all a better idea :thumbup:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52656808

Re: “ Very interesting “

Thu May 14, 2020 1:47 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Abergavenny wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Abergavenny wrote:That is not the survival rate thou That is not based on the people who have caught the virus but on whole population.



If that was the case in the UK 65.65Million and 33186 deaths = 0.0005055 have died so the not died from Corona rate would be
99.9994945%. Over 80% are over the age of 75 with serious life-shortening health conditions.

At least 10% of the UK population have had it (my assumption from the various reports) then with 33186 deaths that would be a death rate of 0.00505499 so the not died from corona figure would be 99.9949501%

Basically if your under 40 and not fat as feck, with no underlying health conditions you've got a minimal chance of dying of covid 19%.

Survival figures won't know all the people who have had it, but 230,000 have tested positive, so based on that is would change to 98.56%, but everyone knows that would be a wrong assumption.

Based on 10% of population getting as you stated and a 33186 died Is just over 0.5 death rate who have had it not not 0.005



I stand corrected I definitely can't multitask, we really need to know how many have had it, then we will really know!

Roche has a test which is 99.8 accurate in saying when someone has the virus, and hopefully that will give us all a better idea :thumbup:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52656808



There's a diagnostic company based in Pencoed that have test that can determine if you've got it and whether you've had it in the same test. They're claiming 100% specificity - dont quite understood the term. Its been in production for a couple of weeks but its an American company and at the moment they're all going across the Atlantic. I understand they are likely to be going into Welsh hospitals soon. We absolutely need to have a better idea of how many have had it. Proper sampling like they do with the election and they'd get a very good idea out of 100k tests.

Re: “ Very interesting “

Thu May 14, 2020 2:09 pm

epping blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Abergavenny wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Abergavenny wrote:That is not the survival rate thou That is not based on the people who have caught the virus but on whole population.



If that was the case in the UK 65.65Million and 33186 deaths = 0.0005055 have died so the not died from Corona rate would be
99.9994945%. Over 80% are over the age of 75 with serious life-shortening health conditions.

At least 10% of the UK population have had it (my assumption from the various reports) then with 33186 deaths that would be a death rate of 0.00505499 so the not died from corona figure would be 99.9949501%

Basically if your under 40 and not fat as feck, with no underlying health conditions you've got a minimal chance of dying of covid 19%.

Survival figures won't know all the people who have had it, but 230,000 have tested positive, so based on that is would change to 98.56%, but everyone knows that would be a wrong assumption.

Based on 10% of population getting as you stated and a 33186 died Is just over 0.5 death rate who have had it not not 0.005



I stand corrected I definitely can't multitask, we really need to know how many have had it, then we will really know!

Roche has a test which is 99.8 accurate in saying when someone has the virus, and hopefully that will give us all a better idea :thumbup:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52656808



There's a diagnostic company based in Pencoed that have test that can determine if you've got it and whether you've had it in the same test. They're claiming 100% specificity - dont quite understood the term. Its been in production for a couple of weeks but its an American company and at the moment they're all going across the Atlantic. I understand they are likely to be going into Welsh hospitals soon. We absolutely need to have a better idea of how many have had it. Proper sampling like they do with the election and they'd get a very good idea out of 100k tests.



Agreed the antibodies test is needed :thumbup: at least we know who's had it and carries the antibodies.

The only problem we still have with this horrible virus is that even if people have had it before and carry the antibodies, we are not sure how long they will last and whether they can be reinfected in the future, I really hope that's not the case or we really are fecked!

Re: “ Very interesting “

Thu May 14, 2020 8:21 pm

In the uk there is a 1 in a million chance of dying from it if you are under 30......