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When would you feel it's safe to ease lockdown?

Sun May 10, 2020 7:52 pm

When would YOU feel that it would be safe to lift lockdown restrictions?

So many different opinions on here of course which is always going to be the case on a forum such as this but I was just wondering when everyone thinks that lockdown restrictions should be lifted in Wales.

Now?
Never?
Only when a cure has been found?
Only when a vaccine has been tested and found to be 100% effective?
When the government stop paying furlough money?
When there are absolutely no deaths from COVID 19 anymore?
When there are absolutely no new infections for say six months in a row?
When everybody has been tested?
When the "R" number is zero?

When would you personally feel safe to leave your house again?

Re: When would you feel it's safe to ease lockdown?

Sun May 10, 2020 7:57 pm

never.

hospitals empty. no more people dying of heart attacks , strokes, cancer, traffic accidents. nobrainer.

I do think 80% should be upped to 90%

Re: When would you feel it's safe to ease lockdown?

Mon May 11, 2020 8:41 am

davids wrote:When would YOU feel that it would be safe to lift lockdown restrictions?

So many different opinions on here of course which is always going to be the case on a forum such as this but I was just wondering when everyone thinks that lockdown restrictions should be lifted in Wales.

Now?
Never?
Only when a cure has been found?
Only when a vaccine has been tested and found to be 100% effective?
When the government stop paying furlough money?
When there are absolutely no deaths from COVID 19 anymore?
When there are absolutely no new infections for say six months in a row?
When everybody has been tested?
When the "R" number is zero?

When would you personally feel safe to leave your house again?


We need restrictions until it's safe, so either full heard immunity or a vaccine, it's a long time off.

Re: When would you feel it's safe to ease lockdown?

Mon May 11, 2020 8:52 am

In England it will be july! in Scotland and wales next year if sturgeon and the idiot running Wales as anything to do with it? No one knows when it be safe enough economic conditions will dictate when things start to open otherwise millions be unemployed for years to come...

Re: When would you feel it's safe to ease lockdown?

Mon May 11, 2020 9:29 am

Bluebina wrote:
davids wrote:When would YOU feel that it would be safe to lift lockdown restrictions?

So many different opinions on here of course which is always going to be the case on a forum such as this but I was just wondering when everyone thinks that lockdown restrictions should be lifted in Wales.

Now?
Never?
Only when a cure has been found?
Only when a vaccine has been tested and found to be 100% effective?
When the government stop paying furlough money?
When there are absolutely no deaths from COVID 19 anymore?
When there are absolutely no new infections for say six months in a row?
When everybody has been tested?
When the "R" number is zero?

When would you personally feel safe to leave your house again?


We need restrictions until it's safe, so either full heard immunity or a vaccine, it's a long time off.


When I say restrictions, I mean some restrictions like distancing, but it's safe to leave my house now :thumbup:

Re: When would you feel it's safe to ease lockdown?

Mon May 11, 2020 9:29 am

Bluebina wrote:
davids wrote:When would YOU feel that it would be safe to lift lockdown restrictions?

So many different opinions on here of course which is always going to be the case on a forum such as this but I was just wondering when everyone thinks that lockdown restrictions should be lifted in Wales.

Now?
Never?
Only when a cure has been found?
Only when a vaccine has been tested and found to be 100% effective?
When the government stop paying furlough money?
When there are absolutely no deaths from COVID 19 anymore?
When there are absolutely no new infections for say six months in a row?
When everybody has been tested?
When the "R" number is zero?

When would you personally feel safe to leave your house again?


We need restrictions until it's safe, so either full heard immunity or a vaccine, it's a long time off.


When I say restrictions, I mean some restrictions like distancing, but it's safe to leave my house now :thumbup:

Re: When would you feel it's safe to ease lockdown?

Mon May 11, 2020 12:44 pm

5yrs time when I retire. :D

Re: When would you feel it's safe to ease lockdown?

Mon May 11, 2020 2:53 pm

I think the lockdown will need to start being, properly, eased at the next 3 week review period but generally I'm in agreement with it remaining in place now.

It's all very well saying we can't risk another peak when the reality is that until there is a vaccine or treatment that works there will always be a risk and it's silly to claim otherwise. That time is months/years away so we just have to learn to manage it and adapt the way with live with it.

What has muddied the water is the inconsistencies. For instance, in Wales, we shouldn't be making non-essential journeys, however if that journey is to a non-essential garden centre that's OK :roll: :banghead:

In England, you can't visit family at their home but you can sit next to a works colleague all day as long as you stay 2m apart despite also having to have travelled in too !!

It's either lockdown or it isn't. If there appear to be inconsistencies/unfairness in the process then the level of non-compliance will increase and become, almost, non-enforceable. Politicians need to be very careful right now.

Re: When would you feel it's safe to ease lockdown?

Mon May 11, 2020 3:53 pm

piledriver64 wrote:I think the lockdown will need to start being, properly, eased at the next 3 week review period but generally I'm in agreement with it remaining in place now.

It's all very well saying we can't risk another peak when the reality is that until there is a vaccine or treatment that works there will always be a risk and it's silly to claim otherwise. That time is months/years away so we just have to learn to manage it and adapt the way with live with it.

What has muddied the water is the inconsistencies. For instance, in Wales, we shouldn't be making non-essential journeys, however if that journey is to a non-essential garden centre that's OK :roll: :banghead:

In England, you can't visit family at their home but you can sit next to a works colleague all day as long as you stay 2m apart despite also having to have travelled in too !!

It's either lockdown or it isn't. If there appear to be inconsistencies/unfairness in the process then the level of non-compliance will increase and become, almost, non-enforceable. Politicians need to be very careful right now.




Not been on in a while. Pretty sure I had it 4 weeks ago and even at that level of sickness it was very unpleasant. Breathing still not fully back to normal but its getting there.

We need to have a significant serology testing programme to see how many in the population have had it. 50k tests would give us a pretty good idea although a 100k would better pick up the regional variations. The countries that have faired better to date are likely to have dodged the infection pretty much completely. The Czech Republic lauded for the way they've dealt with this, have according to testing suffered an infection rate of less than 0.5%. On those figures you'd have to ask whether that's coming out of lock down or still waiting for the first wave ?

I suspect we'll be hugely higher than that but of course at an horrendous cost. Knowing where we are with the past infection levels would be a huge step forward and we seem no nearer the ^ home testing kit " than we were weeks ago. Clearly it wont help with individual knowledge but it would help with planning our way forward.