Sat May 09, 2020 11:25 pm
Sat May 09, 2020 11:50 pm
bluesince62 wrote:Seems social distancing will be with its for the foreseeable future,work going ahead to widen pavements,with well field road being the first,with having all parking on both sides of the road,to widen the pavements! Also castle street is losing one traffic lane by the castle,to allow for the same widening of the pavements, and cycle way! A glimpse of the "new normal "? What's your take on the goings on? Personally, I'm not in favour of it,as it's a way of forcing the will of others on people,but to what ends?? Do you think this will stay in place for good? And if so whats the motive and reasoning for it? Just thought I'd start a topic on the current situation,instead of the plethora of copy and pasted headlines and daily death tolls.![]()
Sun May 10, 2020 12:09 am
pembroke allan wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Seems social distancing will be with its for the foreseeable future,work going ahead to widen pavements,with well field road being the first,with having all parking on both sides of the road,to widen the pavements! Also castle street is losing one traffic lane by the castle,to allow for the same widening of the pavements, and cycle way! A glimpse of the "new normal "? What's your take on the goings on? Personally, I'm not in favour of it,as it's a way of forcing the will of others on people,but to what ends?? Do you think this will stay in place for good? And if so whats the motive and reasoning for it? Just thought I'd start a topic on the current situation,instead of the plethora of copy and pasted headlines and daily death tolls.![]()
Andy! castle st is part of councils get rid of cars in centre of town plan so they're just bringing it forward.. as for welfield rd or any other scheme like it is bullocks as who's going to control amount of people out on street at any one time ? Love to know how come July when furlough ends how the fck are people are going to get to work? Social distances means only 1 in ten people can use public transport! In Perspective this means that only 50k people can access London transport system instead of normal 325k every 15mins at peak time ....... social distancing is fantasy world when people are forced back to work or are the gvmnt going to pay for millions to stay off work until vaccine is found? Which realistically may never happen! Distancing as worked but it's a physical impossibility even when only a fraction of nation go back to work....
Sun May 10, 2020 1:08 am
bluesince62 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Seems social distancing will be with its for the foreseeable future,work going ahead to widen pavements,with well field road being the first,with having all parking on both sides of the road,to widen the pavements! Also castle street is losing one traffic lane by the castle,to allow for the same widening of the pavements, and cycle way! A glimpse of the "new normal "? What's your take on the goings on? Personally, I'm not in favour of it,as it's a way of forcing the will of others on people,but to what ends?? Do you think this will stay in place for good? And if so whats the motive and reasoning for it? Just thought I'd start a topic on the current situation,instead of the plethora of copy and pasted headlines and daily death tolls.![]()
Andy! castle st is part of councils get rid of cars in centre of town plan so they're just bringing it forward.. as for welfield rd or any other scheme like it is bullocks as who's going to control amount of people out on street at any one time ? Love to know how come July when furlough ends how the fck are people are going to get to work? Social distances means only 1 in ten people can use public transport! In Perspective this means that only 50k people can access London transport system instead of normal 325k every 15mins at peak time ....... social distancing is fantasy world when people are forced back to work or are the gvmnt going to pay for millions to stay off work until vaccine is found? Which realistically may never happen! Distancing as worked but it's a physical impossibility even when only a fraction of nation go back to work....
I'm with with you allan,and my name is Paul, not Andy mateand furlough long term is simply not feasible financially ,and those who think it can be sustained indefinitely need to wake up! If the government's plans are to possibly have fans back in attendance by October is true,then if social distancing is still applicable then,the crowd allowed to ccs for example would be around 8/9000!! Even tesco & Asda are expressing concerns over sustainability under the current rules,as their footfall is drastically reduced to conform.my sister is self employed, and is struggling big time,as she has been told to apply for universal credit, as she cannot work from home,but at present has no money coming in,as her claim doesn't go live until next week!
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Sun May 10, 2020 10:22 am
pembroke allan wrote:bluesince62 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Seems social distancing will be with its for the foreseeable future,work going ahead to widen pavements,with well field road being the first,with having all parking on both sides of the road,to widen the pavements! Also castle street is losing one traffic lane by the castle,to allow for the same widening of the pavements, and cycle way! A glimpse of the "new normal "? What's your take on the goings on? Personally, I'm not in favour of it,as it's a way of forcing the will of others on people,but to what ends?? Do you think this will stay in place for good? And if so whats the motive and reasoning for it? Just thought I'd start a topic on the current situation,instead of the plethora of copy and pasted headlines and daily death tolls.![]()
Andy! castle st is part of councils get rid of cars in centre of town plan so they're just bringing it forward.. as for welfield rd or any other scheme like it is bullocks as who's going to control amount of people out on street at any one time ? Love to know how come July when furlough ends how the fck are people are going to get to work? Social distances means only 1 in ten people can use public transport! In Perspective this means that only 50k people can access London transport system instead of normal 325k every 15mins at peak time ....... social distancing is fantasy world when people are forced back to work or are the gvmnt going to pay for millions to stay off work until vaccine is found? Which realistically may never happen! Distancing as worked but it's a physical impossibility even when only a fraction of nation go back to work....
I'm with with you allan,and my name is Paul, not Andy mateand furlough long term is simply not feasible financially ,and those who think it can be sustained indefinitely need to wake up! If the government's plans are to possibly have fans back in attendance by October is true,then if social distancing is still applicable then,the crowd allowed to ccs for example would be around 8/9000!! Even tesco & Asda are expressing concerns over sustainability under the current rules,as their footfall is drastically reduced to conform.my sister is self employed, and is struggling big time,as she has been told to apply for universal credit, as she cannot work from home,but at present has no money coming in,as her claim doesn't go live until next week!
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Ooops sorry Paul! The problem is so called experts and politicians are all saying need to keep social distancing without having a clue how it can be implimented other than need to walk or use bikes to get to work? The truth is none of them have a fcking clue what to do when people start back to work even teachers want full ppe before they teach again as cannot make 6yr olds conform to social distancing at school... and another obvious problem is people have been scared whitless about corvid and reports indicate that there will be a 30% increase in cars being used in preference to public transport so no car areas being proposed will work well for pollution figures in traffic jams created by councils...
Sun May 10, 2020 10:28 am
TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .
Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .
The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.
Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .
Sun May 10, 2020 10:38 am
pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .
Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .
The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.
Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .
Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..
Sun May 10, 2020 10:49 am
pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .
Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .
The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.
Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .
Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..
Sun May 10, 2020 10:51 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .
Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .
The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.
Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .
Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..
Was talking to a mate who has his own business last night about it all and he pretty much agreed.
There won’t be an economy left after July unless it gets moving again. Those were his words.
He also said that he’d read / heard that up to 8 million people in the uk may well have had the virus - the vast majority with little or no symptoms.
Will it be a case of waiting for the ‘R’ to get to around 0.5 and then bite the bullet as you say? People will be infected and sadly some will die, but as a vaccine is months away at best I can’t see another option.
Sun May 10, 2020 11:33 am
dogfound wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .
Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .
The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.
Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .
Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..
Was talking to a mate who has his own business last night about it all and he pretty much agreed.
There won’t be an economy left after July unless it gets moving again. Those were his words.
He also said that he’d read / heard that up to 8 million people in the uk may well have had the virus - the vast majority with little or no symptoms.
Will it be a case of waiting for the ‘R’ to get to around 0.5 and then bite the bullet as you say? People will be infected and sadly some will die, but as a vaccine is months away at best I can’t see another option.
isn't this R figure just a guess ? its based on how many people catch it off someone who has it...how does anyone know how many people are infected .? ..ive read lots of figures like your mates 8 mill some from pretty prominent scientists....always a different number...
surely to know this R figure you need to have a pretty accurate number for those infected...and also a pretty accurate figure for those who then get infected by them ...with so many apparently with mild or no symptoms how can anyone know either..?
Sun May 10, 2020 1:44 pm
TopCat CCFC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .
Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .
The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.
Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .
Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..
I am not saying we stay home until a cure for this is found - we might as well all go back next week/ month and keep 2mts.
The point i am making is social distancing is in for good and we should not go back with people not doing this .
If there was no cure/vaccine or whatever medical term we use to be found - why is so much money going into this ?
As for furloghed - Plan is to get it down to under the Gov target of 3M and then we might see 60% paid after June -
Or as you say and i agree business open or go bust .
Sun May 10, 2020 1:59 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .
Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .
The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.
Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .
Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..
Was talking to a mate who has his own business last night about it all and he pretty much agreed.
There won’t be an economy left after July unless it gets moving again. Those were his words.
He also said that he’d read / heard that up to 8 million people in the uk may well have had the virus - the vast majority with little or no symptoms.
Will it be a case of waiting for the ‘R’ to get to around 0.5 and then bite the bullet as you say? People will be infected and sadly some will die, but as a vaccine is months away at best I can’t see another option.
Sun May 10, 2020 2:05 pm
Sun May 10, 2020 2:27 pm
pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .
Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .
The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.
Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .
Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..
I am not saying we stay home until a cure for this is found - we might as well all go back next week/ month and keep 2mts.
The point i am making is social distancing is in for good and we should not go back with people not doing this .
If there was no cure/vaccine or whatever medical term we use to be found - why is so much money going into this ?
As for furloghed - Plan is to get it down to under the Gov target of 3M and then we might see 60% paid after June -
Or as you say and i agree business open or go bust .
What kind social distancing can we have or sustain and for how long? If stick to 2mtrs there be no pubs or cafes ect ect as having only couple patrons at a time is not viable for even a couple of months after furlough same with public transport
One great answer for bubs was only 2 or 3 pints per customer and set time to to be there? Just no common sense from the people who are advising public or politicians.
Sun May 10, 2020 3:58 pm
dogfound wrote:personally I just don't see social distancing working without lockdown.. ive seen loads of pictures of the hours exercise in Spain.. no social distancing at all.. same will happen here.
Sun May 10, 2020 4:10 pm
bluesince62 wrote:dogfound wrote:personally I just don't see social distancing working without lockdown.. ive seen loads of pictures of the hours exercise in Spain.. no social distancing at all.. same will happen here.
100% agree dogfound,without lockdown, lack of control by the police unable to police everywhere, these things make social distancing outside impossible to implement. I had mentioned spain example also,but it was misread as me having a go at spain for some reason,when all I did was report on war was happening there,regarding social distance law? As I think it is there? Whereas here it's only guidance.![]()
Sun May 10, 2020 4:19 pm
dogfound wrote:personally I just don't see social distancing working without lockdown.. ive seen loads of pictures of the hours exercise in Spain.. no social distancing at all.. same will happen here.
Sun May 10, 2020 4:22 pm
pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .
Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .
The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.
Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .
Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..
Sun May 10, 2020 4:35 pm
Sun May 10, 2020 4:36 pm
Sun May 10, 2020 4:43 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluesince62 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Seems social distancing will be with its for the foreseeable future,work going ahead to widen pavements,with well field road being the first,with having all parking on both sides of the road,to widen the pavements! Also castle street is losing one traffic lane by the castle,to allow for the same widening of the pavements, and cycle way! A glimpse of the "new normal "? What's your take on the goings on? Personally, I'm not in favour of it,as it's a way of forcing the will of others on people,but to what ends?? Do you think this will stay in place for good? And if so whats the motive and reasoning for it? Just thought I'd start a topic on the current situation,instead of the plethora of copy and pasted headlines and daily death tolls.![]()
Andy! castle st is part of councils get rid of cars in centre of town plan so they're just bringing it forward.. as for welfield rd or any other scheme like it is bullocks as who's going to control amount of people out on street at any one time ? Love to know how come July when furlough ends how the fck are people are going to get to work? Social distances means only 1 in ten people can use public transport! In Perspective this means that only 50k people can access London transport system instead of normal 325k every 15mins at peak time ....... social distancing is fantasy world when people are forced back to work or are the gvmnt going to pay for millions to stay off work until vaccine is found? Which realistically may never happen! Distancing as worked but it's a physical impossibility even when only a fraction of nation go back to work....
I'm with with you allan,and my name is Paul, not Andy mateand furlough long term is simply not feasible financially ,and those who think it can be sustained indefinitely need to wake up! If the government's plans are to possibly have fans back in attendance by October is true,then if social distancing is still applicable then,the crowd allowed to ccs for example would be around 8/9000!! Even tesco & Asda are expressing concerns over sustainability under the current rules,as their footfall is drastically reduced to conform.my sister is self employed, and is struggling big time,as she has been told to apply for universal credit, as she cannot work from home,but at present has no money coming in,as her claim doesn't go live until next week!
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Ooops sorry Paul! The problem is so called experts and politicians are all saying need to keep social distancing without having a clue how it can be implimented other than need to walk or use bikes to get to work? The truth is none of them have a fcking clue what to do when people start back to work even teachers want full ppe before they teach again as cannot make 6yr olds conform to social distancing at school... and another obvious problem is people have been scared whitless about corvid and reports indicate that there will be a 30% increase in cars being used in preference to public transport so no car areas being proposed will work well for pollution figures in traffic jams created by councils...
62 was a vintage year!! How you doing All.
Sun May 10, 2020 5:15 pm
bluesince62 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluesince62 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Seems social distancing will be with its for the foreseeable future,work going ahead to widen pavements,with well field road being the first,with having all parking on both sides of the road,to widen the pavements! Also castle street is losing one traffic lane by the castle,to allow for the same widening of the pavements, and cycle way! A glimpse of the "new normal "? What's your take on the goings on? Personally, I'm not in favour of it,as it's a way of forcing the will of others on people,but to what ends?? Do you think this will stay in place for good? And if so whats the motive and reasoning for it? Just thought I'd start a topic on the current situation,instead of the plethora of copy and pasted headlines and daily death tolls.![]()
Andy! castle st is part of councils get rid of cars in centre of town plan so they're just bringing it forward.. as for welfield rd or any other scheme like it is bullocks as who's going to control amount of people out on street at any one time ? Love to know how come July when furlough ends how the fck are people are going to get to work? Social distances means only 1 in ten people can use public transport! In Perspective this means that only 50k people can access London transport system instead of normal 325k every 15mins at peak time ....... social distancing is fantasy world when people are forced back to work or are the gvmnt going to pay for millions to stay off work until vaccine is found? Which realistically may never happen! Distancing as worked but it's a physical impossibility even when only a fraction of nation go back to work....
I'm with with you allan,and my name is Paul, not Andy mateand furlough long term is simply not feasible financially ,and those who think it can be sustained indefinitely need to wake up! If the government's plans are to possibly have fans back in attendance by October is true,then if social distancing is still applicable then,the crowd allowed to ccs for example would be around 8/9000!! Even tesco & Asda are expressing concerns over sustainability under the current rules,as their footfall is drastically reduced to conform.my sister is self employed, and is struggling big time,as she has been told to apply for universal credit, as she cannot work from home,but at present has no money coming in,as her claim doesn't go live until next week!
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Ooops sorry Paul! The problem is so called experts and politicians are all saying need to keep social distancing without having a clue how it can be implimented other than need to walk or use bikes to get to work? The truth is none of them have a fcking clue what to do when people start back to work even teachers want full ppe before they teach again as cannot make 6yr olds conform to social distancing at school... and another obvious problem is people have been scared whitless about corvid and reports indicate that there will be a 30% increase in cars being used in preference to public transport so no car areas being proposed will work well for pollution figures in traffic jams created by councils...
62 was a vintage year!! How you doing All.
Alive and kicking you old farthow are you mate?
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Sun May 10, 2020 5:30 pm
Forever Blue wrote:All over the country the Police are saying they are losing the battle.
Sun May 10, 2020 7:14 pm
thomasblue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:All over the country the Police are saying they are losing the battle.
90% of the pictures in newspapers and online are of london. 5% are south east seaside towns and the other 5% random pictures across the country.
London is acting like the rules do not apply and dragging the rest of the country down with them.
Most people are adhering to the rules but like Spain on the first day the rules are too open and if everyone chooses to go out after lunch places look packed and the tabloids jump on it.
People have tried really hard to stay home and are getting treated the same as the idiots in london is not fair
Sun May 10, 2020 7:43 pm
llan bluebird wrote:thomasblue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:All over the country the Police are saying they are losing the battle.
90% of the pictures in newspapers and online are of london. 5% are south east seaside towns and the other 5% random pictures across the country.
London is acting like the rules do not apply and dragging the rest of the country down with them.
Most people are adhering to the rules but like Spain on the first day the rules are too open and if everyone chooses to go out after lunch places look packed and the tabloids jump on it.
People have tried really hard to stay home and are getting treated the same as the idiots in london is not fair
For the newspapers and sky news its a pretty boring "everyone switch over to Netflix" story if 99.9% of people adhere to the lockdown. There are 9 million in London with the fastest dropping of the death rate. I guess if i wait in one bottleneck for several hours to get the perfect photo of news report I will get what i want.
I am currently waiting for the uproar when Joe Public realised Bojo just took their 2 weeks overseas summer holiday from them unless you have very understanding bosses and they can accept another two weeks of government self isolation after your 2 weeks in Benidorm.