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' Social distancing! !

Sat May 09, 2020 11:25 pm

' Social distancing! !





Seems social distancing will be with its for the foreseeable future,work going ahead to widen pavements,with well field road being the first,with having all parking on both sides of the road,to widen the pavements! Also castle street is losing one traffic lane by the castle,to allow for the same widening of the pavements, and cycle way!


A glimpse of the "new normal "?


What's your take on the goings on? Personally, I'm not in favour of it,as it's a way of forcing the will of others on people,but to what ends??

Do you think this will stay in place for good? And if so whats the motive and reasoning for it? Just thought I'd start a topic on the current situation,instead of the plethora of copy and pasted headlines and daily death tolls. :old: :bluebird:

Re: Social distancing! !

Sat May 09, 2020 11:50 pm

bluesince62 wrote:Seems social distancing will be with its for the foreseeable future,work going ahead to widen pavements,with well field road being the first,with having all parking on both sides of the road,to widen the pavements! Also castle street is losing one traffic lane by the castle,to allow for the same widening of the pavements, and cycle way! A glimpse of the "new normal "? What's your take on the goings on? Personally, I'm not in favour of it,as it's a way of forcing the will of others on people,but to what ends?? Do you think this will stay in place for good? And if so whats the motive and reasoning for it? Just thought I'd start a topic on the current situation,instead of the plethora of copy and pasted headlines and daily death tolls. :old: :bluebird:




Andy! castle st is part of councils get rid of cars in centre of town plan so they're just bringing it forward.. as for welfield rd or any other scheme like it is bullocks as who's going to control amount of people out on street at any one time ? Love to know how come July when furlough ends how the fck are people are going to get to work? Social distances means only 1 in ten people can use public transport! In Perspective this means that only 50k people can access London transport system instead of normal 325k every 15mins at peak time ....... social distancing is fantasy world when people are forced back to work or are the gvmnt going to pay for millions to stay off work until vaccine is found? Which realistically may never happen! Distancing as worked but it's a physical impossibility even when only a fraction of nation go back to work.... :old:

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 12:09 am

pembroke allan wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:Seems social distancing will be with its for the foreseeable future,work going ahead to widen pavements,with well field road being the first,with having all parking on both sides of the road,to widen the pavements! Also castle street is losing one traffic lane by the castle,to allow for the same widening of the pavements, and cycle way! A glimpse of the "new normal "? What's your take on the goings on? Personally, I'm not in favour of it,as it's a way of forcing the will of others on people,but to what ends?? Do you think this will stay in place for good? And if so whats the motive and reasoning for it? Just thought I'd start a topic on the current situation,instead of the plethora of copy and pasted headlines and daily death tolls. :old: :bluebird:




Andy! castle st is part of councils get rid of cars in centre of town plan so they're just bringing it forward.. as for welfield rd or any other scheme like it is bullocks as who's going to control amount of people out on street at any one time ? Love to know how come July when furlough ends how the fck are people are going to get to work? Social distances means only 1 in ten people can use public transport! In Perspective this means that only 50k people can access London transport system instead of normal 325k every 15mins at peak time ....... social distancing is fantasy world when people are forced back to work or are the gvmnt going to pay for millions to stay off work until vaccine is found? Which realistically may never happen! Distancing as worked but it's a physical impossibility even when only a fraction of nation go back to work.... :old:



I'm with with you allan,and my name is Paul, not Andy mate :thumbup: and furlough long term is simply not feasible financially ,and those who think it can be sustained indefinitely need to wake up! If the government's plans are to possibly have fans back in attendance by October is true,then if social distancing is still applicable then,the crowd allowed to ccs for example would be around 8/9000!! Even tesco & Asda are expressing concerns over sustainability under the current rules,as their footfall is drastically reduced to conform.my sister is self employed, and is struggling big time,as she has been told to apply for universal credit, as she cannot work from home,but at present has no money coming in,as her claim doesn't go live until next week! :old: :bluebird:

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 1:08 am

bluesince62 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:Seems social distancing will be with its for the foreseeable future,work going ahead to widen pavements,with well field road being the first,with having all parking on both sides of the road,to widen the pavements! Also castle street is losing one traffic lane by the castle,to allow for the same widening of the pavements, and cycle way! A glimpse of the "new normal "? What's your take on the goings on? Personally, I'm not in favour of it,as it's a way of forcing the will of others on people,but to what ends?? Do you think this will stay in place for good? And if so whats the motive and reasoning for it? Just thought I'd start a topic on the current situation,instead of the plethora of copy and pasted headlines and daily death tolls. :old: :bluebird:




Andy! castle st is part of councils get rid of cars in centre of town plan so they're just bringing it forward.. as for welfield rd or any other scheme like it is bullocks as who's going to control amount of people out on street at any one time ? Love to know how come July when furlough ends how the fck are people are going to get to work? Social distances means only 1 in ten people can use public transport! In Perspective this means that only 50k people can access London transport system instead of normal 325k every 15mins at peak time ....... social distancing is fantasy world when people are forced back to work or are the gvmnt going to pay for millions to stay off work until vaccine is found? Which realistically may never happen! Distancing as worked but it's a physical impossibility even when only a fraction of nation go back to work.... :old:



I'm with with you allan,and my name is Paul, not Andy mate :thumbup: and furlough long term is simply not feasible financially ,and those who think it can be sustained indefinitely need to wake up! If the government's plans are to possibly have fans back in attendance by October is true,then if social distancing is still applicable then,the crowd allowed to ccs for example would be around 8/9000!! Even tesco & Asda are expressing concerns over sustainability under the current rules,as their footfall is drastically reduced to conform.my sister is self employed, and is struggling big time,as she has been told to apply for universal credit, as she cannot work from home,but at present has no money coming in,as her claim doesn't go live until next week! :old: :bluebird:



Ooops sorry Paul! The problem is so called experts and politicians are all saying need to keep social distancing without having a clue how it can be implimented other than need to walk or use bikes to get to work? The truth is none of them have a fcking clue what to do when people start back to work even teachers want full ppe before they teach again as cannot make 6yr olds conform to social distancing at school... and another obvious problem is people have been scared whitless about corvid and reports indicate that there will be a 30% increase in cars being used in preference to public transport so no car areas being proposed will work well for pollution figures in traffic jams created by councils...

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 2:46 am

personally I just don't see social distancing working without lockdown.. ive seen loads of pictures of the hours exercise in Spain.. no social distancing at all.. same will happen here.

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 6:29 am

Every problem has a solution
The biggest issue is getting people to abide by the rules to implement those solutions safely.

I actually like some of the social distancing and if done properly we could see a massive reduction in seasonal illnesses like flu and the common cold.

At the end of the day it will come down to people being sensible and honest if they have symptoms or not

Staggered work hours will be needed which would mean most companies going 24hours

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 8:09 am

You're correct in that it's going to be hard to enforce. But what I think it has done well is to educate. Especially children.

I think It's planted a seed. People will think twice before doing certain things.

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 9:01 am

Its going to be about perspective and your circumstances.

The country and 99% of people can not afford to sit this out in your home for another 3 months. Kudos if you can.

There is a difference in situations. Walking past someone in the street or park is a different situation from going to Tesco's, Next or B & Q, both are entirely different from entering the London tube system, buses or aeroplanes where there is very close contact in a closed areas.

The most international densely populated area are greatest affected. I'd fancy my chances of not catching the virus on the the 7.55 Pontyclun to Cardiff central more than the circle line.

Open up the pubs and restaurants if you like, i won't be putting anything in my mouth be it pint glasses or cutlery until this is easily treatable or we have a vaccine. I also won't be going to the theatre, cinema, concerts, aeroplanes or pubs. I am really unsure if I would go to an open stadium.

215,000 people have tested positive for Covid, that's 1 person out of 300 has it. For me in the outskirts of Cardiff my general risk assessment of the risk to me in my health condition is negligible with what i do. I go to work with good social distancing, have daily walks in the country lanes and weekly shops in Tesco's but would feel comfortable in B&Q, screwfix or Next.

If i was a 25 year old fit lad in London I doubt i'd worry about the tube, so i am really not going to worry about a kickabout or BBQ with my fellow 25 year old mates .

Its all about perspective and your circumstances.

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 10:11 am

I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .

Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .

The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.

Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 10:22 am

pembroke allan wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:Seems social distancing will be with its for the foreseeable future,work going ahead to widen pavements,with well field road being the first,with having all parking on both sides of the road,to widen the pavements! Also castle street is losing one traffic lane by the castle,to allow for the same widening of the pavements, and cycle way! A glimpse of the "new normal "? What's your take on the goings on? Personally, I'm not in favour of it,as it's a way of forcing the will of others on people,but to what ends?? Do you think this will stay in place for good? And if so whats the motive and reasoning for it? Just thought I'd start a topic on the current situation,instead of the plethora of copy and pasted headlines and daily death tolls. :old: :bluebird:




Andy! castle st is part of councils get rid of cars in centre of town plan so they're just bringing it forward.. as for welfield rd or any other scheme like it is bullocks as who's going to control amount of people out on street at any one time ? Love to know how come July when furlough ends how the fck are people are going to get to work? Social distances means only 1 in ten people can use public transport! In Perspective this means that only 50k people can access London transport system instead of normal 325k every 15mins at peak time ....... social distancing is fantasy world when people are forced back to work or are the gvmnt going to pay for millions to stay off work until vaccine is found? Which realistically may never happen! Distancing as worked but it's a physical impossibility even when only a fraction of nation go back to work.... :old:



I'm with with you allan,and my name is Paul, not Andy mate :thumbup: and furlough long term is simply not feasible financially ,and those who think it can be sustained indefinitely need to wake up! If the government's plans are to possibly have fans back in attendance by October is true,then if social distancing is still applicable then,the crowd allowed to ccs for example would be around 8/9000!! Even tesco & Asda are expressing concerns over sustainability under the current rules,as their footfall is drastically reduced to conform.my sister is self employed, and is struggling big time,as she has been told to apply for universal credit, as she cannot work from home,but at present has no money coming in,as her claim doesn't go live until next week! :old: :bluebird:



Ooops sorry Paul! The problem is so called experts and politicians are all saying need to keep social distancing without having a clue how it can be implimented other than need to walk or use bikes to get to work? The truth is none of them have a fcking clue what to do when people start back to work even teachers want full ppe before they teach again as cannot make 6yr olds conform to social distancing at school... and another obvious problem is people have been scared whitless about corvid and reports indicate that there will be a 30% increase in cars being used in preference to public transport so no car areas being proposed will work well for pollution figures in traffic jams created by councils...

62 was a vintage year!! How you doing All.

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 10:28 am

TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .

Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .

The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.

Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .



Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 10:38 am

pembroke allan wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .

Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .

The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.

Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .



Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..

Was talking to a mate who has his own business last night about it all and he pretty much agreed.
There won’t be an economy left after July unless it gets moving again. Those were his words.
He also said that he’d read / heard that up to 8 million people in the uk may well have had the virus - the vast majority with little or no symptoms.
Will it be a case of waiting for the ‘R’ to get to around 0.5 and then bite the bullet as you say? People will be infected and sadly some will die, but as a vaccine is months away at best I can’t see another option.

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 10:49 am

pembroke allan wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .

Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .

The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.

Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .



Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..


I am not saying we stay home until a cure for this is found - we might as well all go back next week/ month and keep 2mts.
The point i am making is social distancing is in for good and we should not go back with people not doing this .
If there was no cure/vaccine or whatever medical term we use to be found - why is so much money going into this ?
As for furloghed - Plan is to get it down to under the Gov target of 3M and then we might see 60% paid after June -
Or as you say and i agree business open or go bust .

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 10:51 am

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .

Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .

The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.

Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .



Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..

Was talking to a mate who has his own business last night about it all and he pretty much agreed.
There won’t be an economy left after July unless it gets moving again. Those were his words.
He also said that he’d read / heard that up to 8 million people in the uk may well have had the virus - the vast majority with little or no symptoms.
Will it be a case of waiting for the ‘R’ to get to around 0.5 and then bite the bullet as you say? People will be infected and sadly some will die, but as a vaccine is months away at best I can’t see another option.



isn't this R figure just a guess ? its based on how many people catch it off someone who has it...how does anyone know how many people are infected .? ..ive read lots of figures like your mates 8 mill some from pretty prominent scientists....always a different number...
surely to know this R figure you need to have a pretty accurate number for those infected...and also a pretty accurate figure for those who then get infected by them ...with so many apparently with mild or no symptoms how can anyone know either..?

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 11:33 am

dogfound wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .

Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .

The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.

Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .



Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..

Was talking to a mate who has his own business last night about it all and he pretty much agreed.
There won’t be an economy left after July unless it gets moving again. Those were his words.
He also said that he’d read / heard that up to 8 million people in the uk may well have had the virus - the vast majority with little or no symptoms.
Will it be a case of waiting for the ‘R’ to get to around 0.5 and then bite the bullet as you say? People will be infected and sadly some will die, but as a vaccine is months away at best I can’t see another option.



isn't this R figure just a guess ? its based on how many people catch it off someone who has it...how does anyone know how many people are infected .? ..ive read lots of figures like your mates 8 mill some from pretty prominent scientists....always a different number...
surely to know this R figure you need to have a pretty accurate number for those infected...and also a pretty accurate figure for those who then get infected by them ...with so many apparently with mild or no symptoms how can anyone know either..?

I’ve no idea mate, and I’m pretty sure nobody else does.

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 1:44 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .

Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .

The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.

Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .



Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..


I am not saying we stay home until a cure for this is found - we might as well all go back next week/ month and keep 2mts.
The point i am making is social distancing is in for good and we should not go back with people not doing this .
If there was no cure/vaccine or whatever medical term we use to be found - why is so much money going into this ?
As for furloghed - Plan is to get it down to under the Gov target of 3M and then we might see 60% paid after June -
Or as you say and i agree business open or go bust .



What kind social distancing can we have or sustain and for how long? If stick to 2mtrs there be no pubs or cafes ect ect as having only couple patrons at a time is not viable for even a couple of months after furlough same with public transport
One great answer for bubs was only 2 or 3 pints per customer and set time to to be there? Just no common sense from the people who are advising public or politicians.

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 1:59 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .

Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .

The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.

Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .



Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..

Was talking to a mate who has his own business last night about it all and he pretty much agreed.
There won’t be an economy left after July unless it gets moving again. Those were his words.
He also said that he’d read / heard that up to 8 million people in the uk may well have had the virus - the vast majority with little or no symptoms.
Will it be a case of waiting for the ‘R’ to get to around 0.5 and then bite the bullet as you say? People will be infected and sadly some will die, but as a vaccine is months away at best I can’t see another option.



At some point the gvmnt will have to say no more paying workers and it wont be that far away and when that happens how can they stop people going to work? The idea of social distancing on public transport is madness as few live within a mile of their employment to be able to cycle there as being suggested and even less people can walk to work this is the answer to social distancing from environmental people, as I've said car use is expected to rise 30% and councils answer to this is to block rds and reduce width for people to walk to shops that they cannot go in unless they que!! So blocking pavements and doorways whilst trying to keep 2mtrs apart ? :(
Needs common sense not knee jerk reactions to appease environmentalists.

Re: ' Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 2:05 pm

Social distancing has gone down a storm in Belarus.

Serious questions have to be asked here as the numbers there are minimal at best

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 2:27 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .

Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .

The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.

Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .



Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..


I am not saying we stay home until a cure for this is found - we might as well all go back next week/ month and keep 2mts.
The point i am making is social distancing is in for good and we should not go back with people not doing this .
If there was no cure/vaccine or whatever medical term we use to be found - why is so much money going into this ?
As for furloghed - Plan is to get it down to under the Gov target of 3M and then we might see 60% paid after June -
Or as you say and i agree business open or go bust .



What kind social distancing can we have or sustain and for how long? If stick to 2mtrs there be no pubs or cafes ect ect as having only couple patrons at a time is not viable for even a couple of months after furlough same with public transport
One great answer for bubs was only 2 or 3 pints per customer and set time to to be there? Just no common sense from the people who are advising public or politicians.


The message of the last few days is to get some people back to work - The Gov have said to walk or cycle in !!??
Now we know what effect that will have on transport jobs - Likewise the airlines with holidays.
Pubs Bars Restaurants - They say will be the last to open - Therefore as my point before with furloghed .
Why some pubs with beer gardens can't open and trail this as fast foods have done - i don't know ??
I can see both sides to this and the answer to when will this end - I say again until the cure is found .
Until then does anyone know the correct actions are to take ?
Staying Safe and people respecting others space is important .

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 3:58 pm

dogfound wrote:personally I just don't see social distancing working without lockdown.. ive seen loads of pictures of the hours exercise in Spain.. no social distancing at all.. same will happen here.



100% agree dogfound,without lockdown, lack of control by the police unable to police everywhere, these things make social distancing outside impossible to implement. I had mentioned spain example also,but it was misread as me having a go at spain for some reason,when all I did was report on war was happening there,regarding social distance law? As I think it is there? Whereas here it's only guidance. :old: :bluebird:

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 4:10 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
dogfound wrote:personally I just don't see social distancing working without lockdown.. ive seen loads of pictures of the hours exercise in Spain.. no social distancing at all.. same will happen here.



100% agree dogfound,without lockdown, lack of control by the police unable to police everywhere, these things make social distancing outside impossible to implement. I had mentioned spain example also,but it was misread as me having a go at spain for some reason,when all I did was report on war was happening there,regarding social distance law? As I think it is there? Whereas here it's only guidance. :old: :bluebird:


The only way to properly police a lockdown is to have the army on the streets to help them
People have no respect for police but seeing the army patrolling would have a totally different effect on people and make them think twice

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 4:19 pm

dogfound wrote:personally I just don't see social distancing working without lockdown.. ive seen loads of pictures of the hours exercise in Spain.. no social distancing at all.. same will happen here.


Yes youve dragged me in, comedian / YOUR A WIND UP MERCHANT


Show me 50 days of photos of Spain out partying please???

I can show you from day one dozens of Uk photos and still happening.



For 50 days the Uk virtually partied / at least there was TOTAL respect in Spain for 50 days, really hard/tough, but wanted to save life's.

After 50 days of a total / proper lockdown and not socialising at all, yes letting everyone out finally on a Sunday morning was possibly wrong by the Spanish Govt, who then changed things and learn by their mistakes unlike the UK, who partied for 50 days ,idiots & still doing it as people die.

AFTER 50 DAYS OF A REAL LOCKDOWN THEY FINALLY ALLOWED THIS


Spanish Govt:

6am -10am Adults exercise
12pm--2pm over 65's
2pm-6pm under 14's
8pm-11pm Adults

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 4:22 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:I Agree with each and everyone of you who has posted with your views/opinions/visions on this thread to date .

Social distancing will stay in place until they find a cure / vaccine which will be many months away .

The mixed messages which are coming out are not helping some out there to help the rest of us - get this under control.

Tonight we might go from Stay Home : Save The NHS : Save Lives ...To - Stay Alert : Control The Virus : Save Lives .



Waiting for a vaccine is daft as firstly it can be a 1yr away ut also there is a strong possibility there wont be an effective vaccine as corvid 19 is same group as common cold and 3 other viruses in family and not one as a vaccine! No easy answer but at some point in near future just got bite bullet and try return to some sort of normality whatever that is? And july is looking like the start as furlough due to end then and cannot see gvmnt extension to far behond that date so necessity will make businesses open up or go bust..



No one cared about a vaccine for a cold though, over 3000 labs around the world are looking into this one I read.....
The antibody one might be start, if you can get that into the vulnerable the virus will think the person has already had it and possibly have immunity.....

Re: ' Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 4:35 pm

All over the country the Police are saying they are losing the battle.
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Re: ' Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 4:36 pm

Police 'fighting losing battle' over lockdown as 'hundreds' gather for picnics in east London sunshine


BY STEPHANIE COCKROFT

The Evening Standard

Sunday 10th May 2020



Police say they are "fighting a losing battle" over enforcing the lockdown after "hundreds" turned out in parks across east London to enjoy picnics in the sunshine.

Officers in Hackney said groups were gathering in the borough's parks to have "pizzas, beers, wines", despite social distancing rules and calls from the Government for people to stay at home this weekend .

It comes after the Coastguard said that Friday had been its busiest day since lockdown began , with 97 call-outs, compared to the average for April of 63.



Boris Johnson is due to outline potential changes to the lockdown rules on Sunday, but has insisted any alterations will be "limited".
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Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 4:43 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:Seems social distancing will be with its for the foreseeable future,work going ahead to widen pavements,with well field road being the first,with having all parking on both sides of the road,to widen the pavements! Also castle street is losing one traffic lane by the castle,to allow for the same widening of the pavements, and cycle way! A glimpse of the "new normal "? What's your take on the goings on? Personally, I'm not in favour of it,as it's a way of forcing the will of others on people,but to what ends?? Do you think this will stay in place for good? And if so whats the motive and reasoning for it? Just thought I'd start a topic on the current situation,instead of the plethora of copy and pasted headlines and daily death tolls. :old: :bluebird:




Andy! castle st is part of councils get rid of cars in centre of town plan so they're just bringing it forward.. as for welfield rd or any other scheme like it is bullocks as who's going to control amount of people out on street at any one time ? Love to know how come July when furlough ends how the fck are people are going to get to work? Social distances means only 1 in ten people can use public transport! In Perspective this means that only 50k people can access London transport system instead of normal 325k every 15mins at peak time ....... social distancing is fantasy world when people are forced back to work or are the gvmnt going to pay for millions to stay off work until vaccine is found? Which realistically may never happen! Distancing as worked but it's a physical impossibility even when only a fraction of nation go back to work.... :old:



I'm with with you allan,and my name is Paul, not Andy mate :thumbup: and furlough long term is simply not feasible financially ,and those who think it can be sustained indefinitely need to wake up! If the government's plans are to possibly have fans back in attendance by October is true,then if social distancing is still applicable then,the crowd allowed to ccs for example would be around 8/9000!! Even tesco & Asda are expressing concerns over sustainability under the current rules,as their footfall is drastically reduced to conform.my sister is self employed, and is struggling big time,as she has been told to apply for universal credit, as she cannot work from home,but at present has no money coming in,as her claim doesn't go live until next week! :old: :bluebird:



Ooops sorry Paul! The problem is so called experts and politicians are all saying need to keep social distancing without having a clue how it can be implimented other than need to walk or use bikes to get to work? The truth is none of them have a fcking clue what to do when people start back to work even teachers want full ppe before they teach again as cannot make 6yr olds conform to social distancing at school... and another obvious problem is people have been scared whitless about corvid and reports indicate that there will be a 30% increase in cars being used in preference to public transport so no car areas being proposed will work well for pollution figures in traffic jams created by councils...

62 was a vintage year!! How you doing All.



Alive and kicking you old fart :laughing5: how are you mate? :old: :bluebird:

Re: Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 5:15 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:Seems social distancing will be with its for the foreseeable future,work going ahead to widen pavements,with well field road being the first,with having all parking on both sides of the road,to widen the pavements! Also castle street is losing one traffic lane by the castle,to allow for the same widening of the pavements, and cycle way! A glimpse of the "new normal "? What's your take on the goings on? Personally, I'm not in favour of it,as it's a way of forcing the will of others on people,but to what ends?? Do you think this will stay in place for good? And if so whats the motive and reasoning for it? Just thought I'd start a topic on the current situation,instead of the plethora of copy and pasted headlines and daily death tolls. :old: :bluebird:




Andy! castle st is part of councils get rid of cars in centre of town plan so they're just bringing it forward.. as for welfield rd or any other scheme like it is bullocks as who's going to control amount of people out on street at any one time ? Love to know how come July when furlough ends how the fck are people are going to get to work? Social distances means only 1 in ten people can use public transport! In Perspective this means that only 50k people can access London transport system instead of normal 325k every 15mins at peak time ....... social distancing is fantasy world when people are forced back to work or are the gvmnt going to pay for millions to stay off work until vaccine is found? Which realistically may never happen! Distancing as worked but it's a physical impossibility even when only a fraction of nation go back to work.... :old:



I'm with with you allan,and my name is Paul, not Andy mate :thumbup: and furlough long term is simply not feasible financially ,and those who think it can be sustained indefinitely need to wake up! If the government's plans are to possibly have fans back in attendance by October is true,then if social distancing is still applicable then,the crowd allowed to ccs for example would be around 8/9000!! Even tesco & Asda are expressing concerns over sustainability under the current rules,as their footfall is drastically reduced to conform.my sister is self employed, and is struggling big time,as she has been told to apply for universal credit, as she cannot work from home,but at present has no money coming in,as her claim doesn't go live until next week! :old: :bluebird:



Ooops sorry Paul! The problem is so called experts and politicians are all saying need to keep social distancing without having a clue how it can be implimented other than need to walk or use bikes to get to work? The truth is none of them have a fcking clue what to do when people start back to work even teachers want full ppe before they teach again as cannot make 6yr olds conform to social distancing at school... and another obvious problem is people have been scared whitless about corvid and reports indicate that there will be a 30% increase in cars being used in preference to public transport so no car areas being proposed will work well for pollution figures in traffic jams created by councils...

62 was a vintage year!! How you doing All.



Alive and kicking you old fart :laughing5: how are you mate? :old: :bluebird:

:thumbup:

Re: ' Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 5:30 pm

Forever Blue wrote:All over the country the Police are saying they are losing the battle.


90% of the pictures in newspapers and online are of london. 5% are south east seaside towns and the other 5% random pictures across the country.

London is acting like the rules do not apply and dragging the rest of the country down with them.

Most people are adhering to the rules but like Spain on the first day the rules are too open and if everyone chooses to go out after lunch places look packed and the tabloids jump on it.

People have tried really hard to stay home and are getting treated the same as the idiots in london is not fair

Re: ' Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 7:14 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:All over the country the Police are saying they are losing the battle.


90% of the pictures in newspapers and online are of london. 5% are south east seaside towns and the other 5% random pictures across the country.

London is acting like the rules do not apply and dragging the rest of the country down with them.

Most people are adhering to the rules but like Spain on the first day the rules are too open and if everyone chooses to go out after lunch places look packed and the tabloids jump on it.

People have tried really hard to stay home and are getting treated the same as the idiots in london is not fair



For the newspapers and sky news its a pretty boring "everyone switch over to Netflix" story if 99.9% of people adhere to the lockdown. There are 9 million in London with the fastest dropping of the death rate. I guess if i wait in one bottleneck for several hours to get the perfect photo of news report I will get what i want.

I am currently waiting for the uproar when Joe Public realised Bojo just took their 2 weeks overseas summer holiday from them unless you have very understanding bosses and they can accept another two weeks of government self isolation after your 2 weeks in Benidorm.

Re: ' Social distancing! !

Sun May 10, 2020 7:43 pm

llan bluebird wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:All over the country the Police are saying they are losing the battle.


90% of the pictures in newspapers and online are of london. 5% are south east seaside towns and the other 5% random pictures across the country.

London is acting like the rules do not apply and dragging the rest of the country down with them.

Most people are adhering to the rules but like Spain on the first day the rules are too open and if everyone chooses to go out after lunch places look packed and the tabloids jump on it.

People have tried really hard to stay home and are getting treated the same as the idiots in london is not fair



For the newspapers and sky news its a pretty boring "everyone switch over to Netflix" story if 99.9% of people adhere to the lockdown. There are 9 million in London with the fastest dropping of the death rate. I guess if i wait in one bottleneck for several hours to get the perfect photo of news report I will get what i want.

I am currently waiting for the uproar when Joe Public realised Bojo just took their 2 weeks overseas summer holiday from them unless you have very understanding bosses and they can accept another two weeks of government self isolation after your 2 weeks in Benidorm.


Well if your planning on going to France it's even more now - Happy Holidays !!!

Sounds like Emmanuel Macron not best pleased with Boris's plans for 14-day quarantine for people coming to the UK. Tells Boris in a phone call that France will introduce 'reciprocal' measures. So a day trip to Calais = 28 days in quarantine either side of the Channel