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“ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 10:27 am

UK has the highest death rate in the world behind America and has one of the softest lockdowns and yet

LOOK AT THIS


More Morons to make the UK look even more stupid around the world when this happens .

The UK never has really ever had a proper lockdown and yet this now

OPINION?


viewtopic.php?f=2&t=213752 :cry: :cry:




LETS HOPE NOT MANY TURN UP & THE MEDIA ARE NOT ABLE TO SHOW IT AROUND THE WORLD
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Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 10:38 am

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Wed May 06, 2020 10:38 am

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Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 10:43 am

Forever Blue wrote::cry: :cry:

Absolute bunch of morons really thicker than two short planks, they should be locked up. get the army there and arrest them all, then put them in psychiatric hospitals and keep them there until they realize how utterly stupid they are. I guess that would mean for life :banghead:

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 10:45 am

Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote::cry: :cry:

Absolute bunch of morons really thicker than two short planks, they should be locked up. get the army there and arrest them all, then put them in psychiatric hospitals and keep them there until they realize how utterly stupid they are. I guess that would mean for life :banghead:



Roger,

100% agree with you :thumbright:


Everyone of them should be locked up that attends.


Let’s see Boris the Govt show they are totally in control :thumbright:

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 10:56 am

My wife and I are currently in Complete lockdown the wife a nurse has tested positive and passed it on to me I wouldn’t mind attending this gathering to explain how this virus works it’s like a sledgehammer hitting you
Words fail me with these idiots :banghead: :twisted:

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 10:56 am

I take it they are also saying “no” to receiving any treatment and support from NHS if they contract the virus ???

The government has a real dilemma trying to balance getting the economy working and reducing lockdown and sadly getting some to realise it will be just relaxing SOME rules NOT removing all !

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 10:58 am

Pembroke bluebird wrote:My wife and I are currently in Complete lockdown the wife a nurse has tested positive and passed it on to me I wouldn’t mind attending this gathering to explain how this virus works it’s like a sledgehammer hitting you
Words fail me with these idiots :banghead: :twisted:



Sorry to hear Gerald and stay strong :cry:

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 10:59 am

billy ronson wrote:I take it they are also saying “no” to receiving any treatment and support from NHS if they contract the virus ???

The government has a real dilemma trying to balance getting the economy working and reducing lockdown and sadly getting some to realise it will be just relaxing SOME rules NOT removing all !



Andy,

Everyone of them don’t deserve anything from the NHS if they become ill.

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 11:00 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Pembroke bluebird wrote:My wife and I are currently in Complete lockdown the wife a nurse has tested positive and passed it on to me I wouldn’t mind attending this gathering to explain how this virus works it’s like a sledgehammer hitting you
Words fail me with these idiots :banghead: :twisted:



Sorry to hear Gerald and stay strong :cry:

Thank you Annis you and your family keep safe as well :thumbright:

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 11:04 am

Pembroke bluebird wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Pembroke bluebird wrote:My wife and I are currently in Complete lockdown the wife a nurse has tested positive and passed it on to me I wouldn’t mind attending this gathering to explain how this virus works it’s like a sledgehammer hitting you
Words fail me with these idiots :banghead: :twisted:



Sorry to hear Gerald and stay strong :cry:

Thank you Annis you and your family keep safe as well :thumbright:


Gerald :thumbright: :thumbright:

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 11:38 am

Its a poster, let see how many turn up.

In the land of the free, there wasn't many, just the media with clever camera angles and shots made it look bigger than it actually was, but heavy machine guns and CS gas always play well for the gallery.

Its the same old crackpots. I bet Corbyns brother will be there

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 12:00 pm

Problem is that we don't know if this is a twisted wind-up, purely malicious or some kind of rebellion from an individual/group that are hell bent on causing problems

Whichever it is, the Government need to get a hold of it quickly and (a) stop it going ahead, and (b) seek out the perpetrator(s) and explain the errors and consequences of their thinking in a way they'll understand

Sadly, we all know too well there are people out there just itching for something like this to occur as an 'excuse' to jump on an anti-establishment/anti-rule (albeit currently sensible) agenda

Stupid thing to do...just plain stupid! :banghead:

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 12:01 pm

I am all for getting this lockdown eased ASAP

However, it’s got to be done in the safest way possible, hopefully this is just a poster produced by a few morons and nobody turns up.

Any idiot who does turn up should be arrested and fined

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 12:41 pm

this is what's been happening in Glastonbury over last few days, small scale but just goes to show groups are stirring things up - https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/som ... ve-4100523 ( apologies if link doesn't work)

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 1:35 pm

Complete bellends who could well kill their grandparents :roll:

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 1:35 pm

Something like this happened a week or so ago in England - Just a hand full of people turned up on that day .
Looks like from some posts above that small groups are starting to form - also this has happened aboard already .

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 1:37 pm

oohahhPaulMillar wrote:I am all for getting this lockdown eased ASAP

However, it’s got to be done in the safest way possible, hopefully this is just a poster produced by a few morons and nobody turns up.

Any idiot who does turn up should be arrested and fined



Watercannon's let's not feck about, if they are out to cause trouble give them some :thumbup:

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 1:39 pm

Bluebina wrote:
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:I am all for getting this lockdown eased ASAP

However, it’s got to be done in the safest way possible, hopefully this is just a poster produced by a few morons and nobody turns up.

Any idiot who does turn up should be arrested and fined



Watercannon's let's not feck about, if they are out to cause trouble give them some :thumbup:


f**k their liberties there are people lives at stake!

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 1:55 pm

The answer really is quite simple

Whoever attends gets arrested and fined 25k plus a year prison sentence which is suspended for the first offence and activated on the second. All furlough money or benefits stopped straight away and access to the NHS denied.
People wouldnt go then, at the moment it's a £60 fine

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 2:13 pm

Please let them all die before they leave party

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 2:31 pm

Stupidity at its most extreme but at least they don't carry guns. Some of the pictures from over here are ridiculous and scary.

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 2:38 pm

I know its terrible but you cant simply force the public to do what is required unless there is simply a stricter lockdown and now that we passed the peak of this deadly virus i fear that more people will just think we past the peak now lets do what we want. Instead of the UK Government giving tough love, they have just been calm about the lockdown.

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 3:08 pm

The first sentence of this thread: 'UK has the highest death rate in the world,' is simply wrong whilst the Guardian heading is misleading.

Though figures show that in Britain sadly 29,400 have died; Italy the total is 29,300 and Spain witnessed 25,600 deaths the raw figures are misleading. When you factor in the populations of these countries the death rates are: Spain (pop: 47m) has seen 0.054% of her population die. In Italy (pop: 60m) deaths amount for 0.048% and in Britain (68m) 0.043%.

However, the total of deaths as a percentage of the population would be even higher in Spain and Italy as this morning on BBCtv Matt Hancock (Heath Secretary) stated that the GB totals are for deaths in hospitals AND Care Homes whilst the figures for Spain and Italy only include those who died in hospitals.

If deaths in care homes were also included in their statistics then the percentage of deaths per population in Spain and Italy would have been even worse.

On the second issue of this thread, if true, the planned mass meeting defies logic. Clearly authorities would never allow it to go ahead, though.

StT.
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Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 3:18 pm

Bluebina wrote:
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:I am all for getting this lockdown eased ASAP

However, it’s got to be done in the safest way possible, hopefully this is just a poster produced by a few morons and nobody turns up.

Any idiot who does turn up should be arrested and fined



Watercannon's let's not feck about, if they are out to cause trouble give them some :thumbup:


Ok fair enough I am swayed by your persuasive argument water cannon it is then :clap:

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 3:19 pm

Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:The first sentence of this thread: 'UK has the highest death rate in the world,' is simply wrong whilst the Guardian heading is misleading.

Though figures show that in Britain sadly 29,400 have died; Italy the total is 29,300 and Spain witnessed 25,600 deaths the raw figures are misleading. When you factor in the populations of these countries the death rates are: Spain (pop: 47m) has seen 0.054% of her population die. In Italy (pop: 60m) deaths amount for 0.048% and in Britain (68m) 0.043%.

However, the total of deaths as a percentage of the population would be even higher in Spain and Italy as this morning on BBCtv Matt Hancock (Heath Secretary) stated that the GB totals are for deaths in hospitals AND Care Homes whilst the figures for Spain and Italy only include those who died in hospitals.

If deaths in care homes were also included in their statistics then the percentage of deaths per population in Spain and Italy would have been even worse.

On the second issue of this thread, if true, the planned mass meeting defies logic. Clearly authorities would never allow it to go ahead, though.

StT.
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Hancock the health Secretary Hmmmmmmmm?

Has talked bullshit for weeks
He has no clue about his own country never mind other countries.

Where I live in the Balearic Islands all private care homes / care homes etc are included in the daily death toll.


Also don’t forget the UK Govt said itself it was looking at worst 20,000 deaths .

Of course it’s right to compare other countries if the UK was the least they would be saying it as well.


The first week of the UK lockdown was DONT go out, yet the pubs / cinemas/ theatres were still open , madness .


For weeks and still Now happening 105,000 people arrive in the UK with not one question asked to them.



I won’t go on but from day one the Govt were way to slow and soft .


POPULATIONS:


Germany 83mill
France 67 mill
UK 66mill
Italy 60mill
Spain 47mill

UK is at least two weeks behind on the virus.


AND THUS IS FACTS BELOW / NOT FAKE NEWS




At least 15,000 people a day are flying into the UK without checks on their medical condition, the health secretary admitted yesterday.

Matt Hancock said that the equivalent of 105,000 passengers a week were entering the UK from countries including those with serious coronavirus outbreaks such as the US, China, Spain and Italy. Criticism has mounted over the failure to impose health checks or a compulsory period in quarantine for people arriving at UK airports. The US has banned entry for people from Britain and elsewhere in Europe.



Sky News:

The UK got in this position after 45 days / Italy took 60 days to get in this position




The UK has Europe's HIGHEST fatality count as data suggests the TRUE number of victims could be at least 40,000


Data counting people who weren't tested is adding thousands of previously uncounted victims to death toll

Italy has so far recorded around 29,000 victims, and Spain and France have around 25,000 each

US has by far the largest death toll, with almost 70,000 victims, but this is diluted in an enormous population

UK's Office for National Statistics counts anyone with COVID-19 on death certificate, whether tested or not

It counted 29,710 deaths by April 24 in England and Wales. A further 2,612 in Scotland and Northern Ireland
Here’s how to help people impacted by Covid-19



By SAM BLANCHARD SENIOR HEALTH REPORTER FOR MAILONLINE

5 May 2020


Another 693 people were today confirmed to have died of COVID-19 in England, Scotland and Wales, taking the number of victims to 29,427 and making Britain the worst-hit nation in Europe.

And separate backdated figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show the figure appears to have already been higher than 32,000 by April 24 - 10 days ago.

That number is 42 per cent higher than the count announced by the Department of Health at the time, suggesting the current total could be higher than 40,000 - this would mean COVID-19 has killed more Britons in eight weeks than died over seven months during the Blitz bombings in World War Two.

Today's data confirms that more people have died of the coronavirus in the UK than in Italy, still considered to be the worst-hit country in Europe and had suffered 29,079 fatalities by this morning. Only the US has had more deaths than Britain - almost 70,000 - while there have been 25,600 in Spain and 25,200 in France.





WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE FACTS?


The latest figures on European housing reveal that two out of three Spaniards live in a flat, while in countries such as Britain, Croatia and Norway, more than 80 percent of people live in houses.


Spanish people live in over populated areas in the City’s and they are far more condensed than any other European countries which is mainly the reason why Covid-19 spread so fiercely in the first few weeks.

Italy was also in a similar position with many areas of Italy over populated with the population living in flats.





LOOK I WANT THE UK TO BE THE LEAST IN THE WORLD.







Labour leader Keir Starmer:

Highest number of deaths in Europe & 2nd highest in the world


Deaths in care homes still rising


UK GOVT


Last to lockdown

Last for PPI

last last or even slowest to do anything
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Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 3:19 pm

Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:The first sentence of this thread: 'UK has the highest death rate in the world,' is simply wrong whilst the Guardian heading is misleading.

Though figures show that in Britain sadly 29,400 have died; Italy the total is 29,300 and Spain witnessed 25,600 deaths the raw figures are misleading. When you factor in the populations of these countries the death rates are: Spain (pop: 47m) has seen 0.054% of her population die. In Italy (pop: 60m) deaths amount for 0.048% and in Britain (68m) 0.043%.

However, the total of deaths as a percentage of the population would be even higher in Spain and Italy as this morning on BBCtv Matt Hancock (Heath Secretary) stated that the GB totals are for deaths in hospitals AND Care Homes whilst the figures for Spain and Italy only include those who died in hospitals.

If deaths in care homes were also included in their statistics then the percentage of deaths per population in Spain and Italy would have been even worse.

On the second issue of this thread, if true, the planned mass meeting defies logic. Clearly authorities would never allow it to go ahead, though.

StT.
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UK has the highest death rate in the world behind America and has one of the softest lockdowns and yet

NB: 'UK has the highest death rate in the world BEHIND AMERICA,'

The relevant data for the USA: Pop: 323m
Deaths: 62,000
Deaths as Percentage of Population: 0.019%

StT.
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Hancock the health Secretary Hmmmmmmmm?

Has talked bullshit for weeks
He has no clue about his own country never mind other countries.

Where I live in the Balearic Islands all private care homes / care homes etc are included in the daily death toll.


Also don’t forget the UK Govt said itself it was looking at worst 20,000 deaths .

Of course it’s right to compare other countries if the UK was the least they would be saying it as well.


The first week of the UK lockdown was DONT go out, yet the pubs / cinemas/ theatres were still open , madness .


For weeks and still Now happening 105,000 people arrive in the UK with not one question asked to them.



I won’t go on but from day one the Govt were way to slow and soft .


soft .


POPULATIONS:


Germany 83mill
France 67 mill
UK 66mill
Italy 60mill
Spain 47mill

UK is at least two weeks behind on the virus.


AND THUS IS FACTS BELOW / NOT FAKE NEWS




At least 15,000 people a day are flying into the UK without checks on their medical condition, the health secretary admitted yesterday.

Matt Hancock said that the equivalent of 105,000 passengers a week were entering the UK from countries including those with serious coronavirus outbreaks such as the US, China, Spain and Italy. Criticism has mounted over the failure to impose health checks or a compulsory period in quarantine for people arriving at UK airports. The US has banned entry for people from Britain and elsewhere in Europe.



Sky News:

The UK got in this position after 45 days / Italy took 60 days to get in this position




The UK has Europe's HIGHEST fatality count as data suggests the TRUE number of victims could be at least 40,000


Data counting people who weren't tested is adding thousands of previously uncounted victims to death toll

Italy has so far recorded around 29,000 victims, and Spain and France have around 25,000 each

US has by far the largest death toll, with almost 70,000 victims, but this is diluted in an enormous population

UK's Office for National Statistics counts anyone with COVID-19 on death certificate, whether tested or not

It counted 29,710 deaths by April 24 in England and Wales. A further 2,612 in Scotland and Northern Ireland
Here’s how to help people impacted by Covid-19



By SAM BLANCHARD SENIOR HEALTH REPORTER FOR MAILONLINE

5 May 2020


Another 693 people were today confirmed to have died of COVID-19 in England, Scotland and Wales, taking the number of victims to 29,427 and making Britain the worst-hit nation in Europe.

And separate backdated figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show the figure appears to have already been higher than 32,000 by April 24 - 10 days ago.

That number is 42 per cent higher than the count announced by the Department of Health at the time, suggesting the current total could be higher than 40,000 - this would mean COVID-19 has killed more Britons in eight weeks than died over seven months during the Blitz bombings in World War Two.

Today's data confirms that more people have died of the coronavirus in the UK than in Italy, still considered to be the worst-hit country in Europe and had suffered 29,079 fatalities by this morning. Only the US has had more deaths than Britain - almost 70,000 - while there have been 25,600 in Spain and 25,200 in France.





WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE FACTS?


The latest figures on European housing reveal that two out of three Spaniards live in a flat, while in countries such as Britain, Croatia and Norway, more than 80 percent of people live in houses.


Spanish people live in over populated areas in the City’s and they are far more condensed than any other European countries which is mainly the reason why Covid-19 spread so fiercely in the first few weeks.

Italy was also in a similar position with many areas of Italy over populated with the population living in flats.





LOOK I WANT THE UK TO BE THE LEAST IN THE WORLD.

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 5:58 pm

People can call them idiots on here but would you have the vaccine or more importantly would you let your children have the vaccine, which is untested and driven by the WHO.
The WHO vaccination for Ebola killed more people than the disease, and is funded by Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. If this doesn't make alarm bells in your heads go off then go ahead and take the vaccine.
There are so many people who have spoken out about this virus so dont believe all you read and hear in the mainstream news and be brainwashed into thinking you have to have the vaccine.
Take care of your immune system and it will take care of you.

And by the way, I'm not saying this gathering is right, I'm saying that I wont be told I have to do as I'm told here and take this vaccine.

Fire away as it seems most posters are following what they are told by the government and not thinking for themselves.

Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 6:27 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:The first sentence of this thread: 'UK has the highest death rate in the world,' is simply wrong whilst the Guardian heading is misleading.

Though figures show that in Britain sadly 29,400 have died; Italy the total is 29,300 and Spain witnessed 25,600 deaths the raw figures are misleading. When you factor in the populations of these countries the death rates are: Spain (pop: 47m) has seen 0.054% of her population die. In Italy (pop: 60m) deaths amount for 0.048% and in Britain (68m) 0.043%.

However, the total of deaths as a percentage of the population would be even higher in Spain and Italy as this morning on BBCtv Matt Hancock (Heath Secretary) stated that the GB totals are for deaths in hospitals AND Care Homes whilst the figures for Spain and Italy only include those who died in hospitals.

If deaths in care homes were also included in their statistics then the percentage of deaths per population in Spain and Italy would have been even worse.

On the second issue of this thread, if true, the planned mass meeting defies logic. Clearly authorities would never allow it to go ahead, though.

StT.
<><




Hancock the health Secretary Hmmmmmmmm?

Has talked bullshit for weeks
He has no clue about his own country never mind other countries.

Where I live in the Balearic Islands all private care homes / care homes etc are included in the daily death toll.


Also don’t forget the UK Govt said itself it was looking at worst 20,000 deaths .

Of course it’s right to compare other countries if the UK was the least they would be saying it as well.


The first week of the UK lockdown was DONT go out, yet the pubs / cinemas/ theatres were still open , madness .


For weeks and still Now happening 105,000 people arrive in the UK with not one question asked to them.



I won’t go on but from day one the Govt were way to slow and soft .


POPULATIONS:


Germany 83mill
France 67 mill
UK 66mill
Italy 60mill
Spain 47mill

UK is at least two weeks behind on the virus.


AND THUS IS FACTS BELOW / NOT FAKE NEWS




At least 15,000 people a day are flying into the UK without checks on their medical condition, the health secretary admitted yesterday.

Matt Hancock said that the equivalent of 105,000 passengers a week were entering the UK from countries including those with serious coronavirus outbreaks such as the US, China, Spain and Italy. Criticism has mounted over the failure to impose health checks or a compulsory period in quarantine for people arriving at UK airports. The US has banned entry for people from Britain and elsewhere in Europe.



Sky News:

The UK got in this position after 45 days / Italy took 60 days to get in this position




The UK has Europe's HIGHEST fatality count as data suggests the TRUE number of victims could be at least 40,000


Data counting people who weren't tested is adding thousands of previously uncounted victims to death toll

Italy has so far recorded around 29,000 victims, and Spain and France have around 25,000 each

US has by far the largest death toll, with almost 70,000 victims, but this is diluted in an enormous population

UK's Office for National Statistics counts anyone with COVID-19 on death certificate, whether tested or not

It counted 29,710 deaths by April 24 in England and Wales. A further 2,612 in Scotland and Northern Ireland
Here’s how to help people impacted by Covid-19



By SAM BLANCHARD SENIOR HEALTH REPORTER FOR MAILONLINE

5 May 2020


Another 693 people were today confirmed to have died of COVID-19 in England, Scotland and Wales, taking the number of victims to 29,427 and making Britain the worst-hit nation in Europe.

And separate backdated figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show the figure appears to have already been higher than 32,000 by April 24 - 10 days ago.

That number is 42 per cent higher than the count announced by the Department of Health at the time, suggesting the current total could be higher than 40,000 - this would mean COVID-19 has killed more Britons in eight weeks than died over seven months during the Blitz bombings in World War Two.

Today's data confirms that more people have died of the coronavirus in the UK than in Italy, still considered to be the worst-hit country in Europe and had suffered 29,079 fatalities by this morning. Only the US has had more deaths than Britain - almost 70,000 - while there have been 25,600 in Spain and 25,200 in France.





WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE FACTS?


The latest figures on European housing reveal that two out of three Spaniards live in a flat, while in countries such as Britain, Croatia and Norway, more than 80 percent of people live in houses.


Spanish people live in over populated areas in the City’s and they are far more condensed than any other European countries which is mainly the reason why Covid-19 spread so fiercely in the first few weeks.

Italy was also in a similar position with many areas of Italy over populated with the population living in flats.





LOOK I WANT THE UK TO BE THE LEAST IN THE WORLD.







Labour leader Keir Starmer:

Highest number of deaths in Europe & 2nd highest in the world


Deaths in care homes still rising


UK GOVT


Last to lockdown

Last for PPI

last last or even slowest to do anything


I am not doubting that the UK govt has been slow to act nor that some of the decisions they have made I think are wrong. We agree on that.

However, the facts I posted above (percentage death rates) are correct as is the fact that British death totals include those who died in care and nursing homes. Spain and Italy only include those who died in hospitals.

StT.
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Re: “ WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE IDIOTS? “

Wed May 06, 2020 6:33 pm

Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:The first sentence of this thread: 'UK has the highest death rate in the world,' is simply wrong whilst the Guardian heading is misleading.

Though figures show that in Britain sadly 29,400 have died; Italy the total is 29,300 and Spain witnessed 25,600 deaths the raw figures are misleading. When you factor in the populations of these countries the death rates are: Spain (pop: 47m) has seen 0.054% of her population die. In Italy (pop: 60m) deaths amount for 0.048% and in Britain (68m) 0.043%.

However, the total of deaths as a percentage of the population would be even higher in Spain and Italy as this morning on BBCtv Matt Hancock (Heath Secretary) stated that the GB totals are for deaths in hospitals AND Care Homes whilst the figures for Spain and Italy only include those who died in hospitals.

If deaths in care homes were also included in their statistics then the percentage of deaths per population in Spain and Italy would have been even worse.

On the second issue of this thread, if true, the planned mass meeting defies logic. Clearly authorities would never allow it to go ahead, though.

StT.
<><




Hancock the health Secretary Hmmmmmmmm?

Has talked bullshit for weeks
He has no clue about his own country never mind other countries.

Where I live in the Balearic Islands all private care homes / care homes etc are included in the daily death toll.


Also don’t forget the UK Govt said itself it was looking at worst 20,000 deaths .

Of course it’s right to compare other countries if the UK was the least they would be saying it as well.


The first week of the UK lockdown was DONT go out, yet the pubs / cinemas/ theatres were still open , madness .


For weeks and still Now happening 105,000 people arrive in the UK with not one question asked to them.



I won’t go on but from day one the Govt were way to slow and soft .


POPULATIONS:


Germany 83mill
France 67 mill
UK 66mill
Italy 60mill
Spain 47mill

UK is at least two weeks behind on the virus.


AND THUS IS FACTS BELOW / NOT FAKE NEWS




At least 15,000 people a day are flying into the UK without checks on their medical condition, the health secretary admitted yesterday.

Matt Hancock said that the equivalent of 105,000 passengers a week were entering the UK from countries including those with serious coronavirus outbreaks such as the US, China, Spain and Italy. Criticism has mounted over the failure to impose health checks or a compulsory period in quarantine for people arriving at UK airports. The US has banned entry for people from Britain and elsewhere in Europe.



Sky News:

The UK got in this position after 45 days / Italy took 60 days to get in this position




The UK has Europe's HIGHEST fatality count as data suggests the TRUE number of victims could be at least 40,000


Data counting people who weren't tested is adding thousands of previously uncounted victims to death toll

Italy has so far recorded around 29,000 victims, and Spain and France have around 25,000 each

US has by far the largest death toll, with almost 70,000 victims, but this is diluted in an enormous population

UK's Office for National Statistics counts anyone with COVID-19 on death certificate, whether tested or not

It counted 29,710 deaths by April 24 in England and Wales. A further 2,612 in Scotland and Northern Ireland
Here’s how to help people impacted by Covid-19



By SAM BLANCHARD SENIOR HEALTH REPORTER FOR MAILONLINE

5 May 2020


Another 693 people were today confirmed to have died of COVID-19 in England, Scotland and Wales, taking the number of victims to 29,427 and making Britain the worst-hit nation in Europe.

And separate backdated figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show the figure appears to have already been higher than 32,000 by April 24 - 10 days ago.

That number is 42 per cent higher than the count announced by the Department of Health at the time, suggesting the current total could be higher than 40,000 - this would mean COVID-19 has killed more Britons in eight weeks than died over seven months during the Blitz bombings in World War Two.

Today's data confirms that more people have died of the coronavirus in the UK than in Italy, still considered to be the worst-hit country in Europe and had suffered 29,079 fatalities by this morning. Only the US has had more deaths than Britain - almost 70,000 - while there have been 25,600 in Spain and 25,200 in France.





WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE FACTS?


The latest figures on European housing reveal that two out of three Spaniards live in a flat, while in countries such as Britain, Croatia and Norway, more than 80 percent of people live in houses.


Spanish people live in over populated areas in the City’s and they are far more condensed than any other European countries which is mainly the reason why Covid-19 spread so fiercely in the first few weeks.

Italy was also in a similar position with many areas of Italy over populated with the population living in flats.





LOOK I WANT THE UK TO BE THE LEAST IN THE WORLD.







Labour leader Keir Starmer:

Highest number of deaths in Europe & 2nd highest in the world


Deaths in care homes still rising


UK GOVT


Last to lockdown

Last for PPI

last last or even slowest to do anything


I am not doubting that the UK govt has been slow to act nor that some of the decisions they have made I think are wrong. We agree on that.

However, the facts I posted above (percentage death rates) are correct as is the fact that British death totals include those who died in care and nursing homes. Spain and Italy only include those who died in hospitals.

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Spain who told you that ?


Hancock :x :lol:

I live in the Balearics and have told you we include all our care home deaths etc and we are part of Spain.


I can’t answer for Italy.


Plus as you changed what the topic was about
Plus if you look at my replies there is plenty for you to answer :thumbright: :thumbright: