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Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:14 am
To lockdown
Europe struggles to exit lockdown: Germany sees rise in infections amid fears it may have to restrict freedoms again, France warns of 'knife edge' between saving lives and the economy and Spain reveals strategy amid rising deaths
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:34 am
Annis there should be no easing of lockdowns until they can be as sure as they can that it will not start up again. The uk should look at Germany and say " See they eased the restrictions and look what is happening, infections are rising again" politicians should stop trying to score points, telling the government to tell them an exit strategy, there should only be one when it is the right time to produce one, and then implement it. All the people calling for the lockdown to end are absolutely selfish thoughtless idiots. Lives before money!
Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:40 am
Igovernor wrote:Annis there should be no easing of lockdowns until they can be as sure as they can that it will not start up again. The uk should look at Germany and say " See they eased the restrictions and look what is happening, infections are rising again" politicians should stop trying to score points, telling the government to tell them an exit strategy, there should only be one when it is the right time to produce one, and then implement it. All the people calling for the lockdown to end are absolutely selfish thoughtless idiots. Lives before money!

Totally agree with you Roger.
We in Spain are still in lockdown other than the 1 hr a day exercise for children only that started last Sunday.
Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:41 am
No lockdown U-turn for Germany… yet: Merkel advisor says it is too early for the effects of easing restrictions to show in the data as Covid-19 cases rise AGAIN today
Germany recorded 1,478 new cases of coronavirus Thursday - up from 1,304 on Wednesday, meaning the number has increased every day this week
Comes a week after country began easing lockdown by allowing shops to reopen
But German expert said apparent rise is not down to easing restrictions
He signalled there will be no change in policy until at least next week
Here’s how to help people impacted by Covid-19
Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:42 am
Lockdown until JUNE: Boris Johnson is set to dash hopes of an early end to coronavirus curbs as he gathers Cabinet for 'exit plan' talks with Nicola Sturgeon ALREADY ruling out loosening and ministers saying a second spike would be a 'disaster'
Boris Johnson is chairing the Cabinet meeting before heading the daily Downing Street briefing this evening
The Prime Minister is expected to dash any hopes of an early loosening of coronavirus lockdown measures
Nicola Sturgeon has dismissed the idea that there will be major changes in the next review due on May 7
Justice Secretary Robert Buckland insisted mood among government ministers is one of 'extreme caution'
Work on 'exit strategy' is being carried out with island communities potentially being used to test an easing
Here’s how to help people impacted by Covid-19
Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:42 am
During the Spanish flu pandemic in the USA those states that continued their restrictions the longest were the states that recovered the quickest financially So maybe we should look at history and not lift restrictions too quickly You need a healthy workforce to bounce back
Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:44 am
Here you go... Like with ever other artical using data, there is a counter one saying the opposite.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/uk.news.ya ... 57903.html
Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:45 am
Abergavenny wrote:During the Spanish flu pandemic in the USA those states that continued their restrictions the longest were the states that recovered the quickest financially So maybe we should look at history and not lift restrictions too quickly You need a healthy workforce to bounce back
Agreed
Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:49 am
Abergavenny wrote:During the Spanish flu pandemic in the USA those states that continued their restrictions the longest were the states that recovered the quickest financially So maybe we should look at history and not lift restrictions too quickly You need a healthy workforce to bounce back
I still don't get the comparisons with Spanish flu from nearly 100 years ago! This is nothing like it, the world has change a little bit in 100 years too
Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:55 am
Who is this idiot? Even the German government has said that, they recorded
1,478 new cases of coronavirus Thursday - up from 1,304 on Wednesday, No need to be an expert to see, that before last week the infection rates were constantly going down, and since the ease of restrictions has gone up rapidly daily
Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:01 am
My office is now shut until the end of July with a few small exceptions.
There's no point rushing this,we all need to accept that it is what it is now until serious medical progress is made.
Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:02 am
langstoneBlue wrote:Abergavenny wrote:During the Spanish flu pandemic in the USA those states that continued their restrictions the longest were the states that recovered the quickest financially So maybe we should look at history and not lift restrictions too quickly You need a healthy workforce to bounce back
I still don't get the comparisons with Spanish flu from nearly 100 years ago! This is nothing like it, the world has change a little bit in 100 years too
The world has changed agreed but the need for a healthy workforce to recover financially has not i would believe All the worlds top economic areas tend to be the healthiest for many reasons I suppose the comparisons is that we did not have any cure from Spanish flu either But we do have a better health system right across the world
Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:48 pm
Igovernor wrote:Annis there should be no easing of lockdowns until they can be as sure as they can that it will not start up again. The uk should look at Germany and say " See they eased the restrictions and look what is happening, infections are rising again" politicians should stop trying to score points, telling the government to tell them an exit strategy, there should only be one when it is the right time to produce one, and then implement it. All the people calling for the lockdown to end are absolutely selfish thoughtless idiots. Lives before money!

Absolutely 100% agree. Hopefully the politicians that are asking will now keep quiet.
Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:51 pm
More details on German lockdown lifting
This just in from Justin Huggler in Germany:
Germany is to reopen playgrounds, zoos and museums in a clear sign it intends to press ahead with lifting its coronavirus lockdown.
Churches and other places of worship will also be allowed to resume religious services, but singing will not be permitted.
Large public gatherings have been banned until August 31 and Angela Merkel warned it was too early to consider reopening European borders to travel.
There has been speculation in recent days over whether Germany would stick to its plan to ease restrictions amid fears of a second wave of infections.
But as a key measurement of the outbreak fell to its lowest level in a week Mrs Merkel and regional leaders agreed to press ahead.
Germany began to lift its lockdown last week when shops reopened, but government sources have stressed reliable data on the effects will not be available until next week.
There was concern over a possible second wave on Monday when the reproduction number — the average number of people each person with the virus infects — briefly rose to 1.
But after it fell back to 0.75 on Wednesday Mrs Merkel and the regional leaders appeared keen to send a signal.
Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:41 pm
Igovernor wrote:Who is this idiot? Even the German government has said that, they recorded
1,478 new cases of coronavirus Thursday - up from 1,304 on Wednesday, No need to be an expert to see, that before last week the infection rates were constantly going down, and since the ease of restrictions has gone up rapidly daily

right... numbers up strategy isn't working..?
Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:11 pm
Also possible that as testing increases so will the case numbers..could go on for some time like this.
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:50 pm
Panic over....? Cases drop below 1k today?
Or nahhhh let's lockdown everything again.
Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:08 pm
Abergavenny wrote:langstoneBlue wrote:Abergavenny wrote:During the Spanish flu pandemic in the USA those states that continued their restrictions the longest were the states that recovered the quickest financially So maybe we should look at history and not lift restrictions too quickly You need a healthy workforce to bounce back
I still don't get the comparisons with Spanish flu from nearly 100 years ago! This is nothing like it, the world has change a little bit in 100 years too
The world has changed agreed but the need for a healthy workforce to recover financially has not i would believe All the worlds top economic areas tend to be the healthiest for many reasons I suppose the comparisons is that we did not have any cure from Spanish flu either But we do have a better health system right across the world
no comparison..
Sat May 02, 2020 2:23 pm
Abergavenny wrote:During the Spanish flu pandemic in the USA those states that continued their restrictions the longest were the states that recovered the quickest financially So maybe we should look at history and not lift restrictions too quickly You need a healthy workforce to bounce back
Interesting. I was not aware of this, but it makes sense.
Sat May 02, 2020 2:35 pm
103 Barmy Army wrote:Abergavenny wrote:During the Spanish flu pandemic in the USA those states that continued their restrictions the longest were the states that recovered the quickest financially So maybe we should look at history and not lift restrictions too quickly You need a healthy workforce to bounce back
Interesting. I was not aware of this, but it makes sense.
the Spanish flu not only killed far more but who the 2 viruses kill is massively different as well...
where 9 out of ten covid deaths are of people over 60 with at least one underlying illness { the average is between 2 and 3 underlying } who are not our workforce...
the Spanish flu was killing men in their prime..in fact life expectancy back then wasn't even reaching the 60 years and upwards group where covid is most lethal..
the world has changed and these 2 viruses really shouldn't be compared in any way..
Wed May 06, 2020 2:06 pm
Merkel 'very pleased' by drop in infections
Angela Merkel has also said the latest figures from Germany's Robert Koch Institute, which has been reporting on confirmed cases and deaths, have been "very good news".
"The figures are still low [after lifting measures] so that's something I'm very pleased about," she said.
But restrictions will be put back in place if those infections rise again.German football cleared for May return
Germany's top football league - the Bundesliga - can return this month behind closed doors after Angela Merkel confirmed it had been given government approval.
The league will decide the exact return date tomorrow, with the weekend of 16-17 May a possibility.
Wed May 06, 2020 2:19 pm
More on Germany's announcements
More now on the announcements by German Chancellor Angela Merkel after her discussions with the heads of the country's 16 states:
Large shops will be able to reopen, those in residential care homes will be allowed to have visitors, and two households will be able to meet together in public
German's Bundesliga football league will also be allowed to return later this month
The states will decide how to reopen things like cinemas, restaurants and theatres
Social distancing rules will stay in place until 5 June, such as maintaining a distance of 1.5m (5ft)
The chancellor stressed that if infections begin to rise, restrictions will be brought back swiftly. But she was optimistic, and thanked the German people for listening to the rules - in particular the public health authority.
"The first phase of the pandemic is behind us," she said, but added that Germany is "still very much in the early phases of the pandemic and will be in it for the long haul."
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