CARDIFF CITY FANS WARNED NO MONEY FOR NEW TRANSFERS SAYS

They had already made it quite clear they had No intentions to spend way before the Crisis.
And this season nothing was really spent, so no really new news.



Numerous players will be leaving.


Cardiff City chief reveals major hit to summer transfer funds and says players should have taken pay cuts not deferrals

Mehmet Dalman warned that Cardiff City's summer transfer kitty has taken a huge hit owing to the impact of coronavirus, with owner Vincent Tan's business suffering in the Far East

By Glen Williams


Sunday 26th April 2020


Ken Choo, Vincent Tan and Mehmet Dalman



Cardiff City chairman Mehmet Dalman has warned the club will not have the funds to spend big this summer owing to the devastating financial effects of the coronavirus outbreak.

In a glaringly honest appraisal of the club's financial situation, Dalman said in no uncertain terms that manager Neil Harris will be hamstrung when it comes to dipping his toe in the water in the next transfer market.

The Bluebirds' financial accounts from the last financial year revealed rather starkly that the club are still heavily reliant on the financial clout of owner Vincent Tan.

However, Dalman said Tan's business, the Berjaya Group, is understandably suffering and, consequently, so will the Bluebirds' spending power this summer and short-term ambitions.

"Cardiff City financially is going to take quite a lot of pain," Dalman told BBC Sport Wales. "We do have a wealthy owner whose business isn't doing great because it is leisure and retail back in the Far East.

"So there has to be a knock-on effect, it will have to change our attitude what our spending power will be like in the next season. These are just realities of finance.

"I don't think he (Neil Harris) should worry about spending, he should worry about what he is going to have to raise because we will not have the financial ability to go out there and buy four or five new players.

"That's not just Cardiff that is across the board. Other teams are no different to us, they are facing the same challenge as we do.

"I think the impact will be quite considerable if things remain equal... I would not want to lose any clubs.

"I don't think Cardiff will be distressed. I think financially we will be viable. Maybe our ambitions will be curtailed but we will be fine.

"But I do feel for my colleagues in the league that the pain will be quite difficult."

Football, as well as most other industries, is currently being gripped by the financial fallout of coronavirus.

And Cardiff, along with many other clubs, have had to implement stringent financial measures to ensure they weather the storm over the next few months.

The club today announced all first-team players have agreed to partial wage deferrals for the next three months, which comes after it was revealed manager Harris and chief executive Ken Choo had already taken voluntary wage cuts and some non-playing were placed on furlough.

But Dalman believes football, in particular the Premier League, could do more and even suggested players should have taken wage cuts instead of deferrals, but lay no blame at their door.


Bluebirds players have agreed to wage deferrals but Mehmet Dalman says cuts might have been more beneficial
"In any other firm a factory worker not working for four or six weeks is not continuing to be paid at full wages," he said.

"So unless you are cutting wages it is not going to have a significant effect on the state of the financial strength or health of itself.

He added: "We as a body should have stepped up to the plate. The Government has made the position very clear that football has to do play its part.

"We didn't do the right thing in my opinion. We haven't done anything yet.

"Deferrals are not going to help the NHS, deferrals are not going to help the club. That is just simple facts because sooner or later all the books will be squared.

"I don't want to say players in particular (are to blame) because I think that would be unfair. I think players are looking for leadership, are looking for direction and I don't feel they have got it."

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We as football fans expected this news really and we are not the only club that will have no transfers if the season ever returns. PLUS as Cardiff fans we are use to not having a huge amount of money to spend.

We're not going to be the only club. If we don't make any signings but retain most of our squad. That'll be a success this summer I think.

Everyone is in the same boat. So maybe prices will drop massively and wages for new contracts. Because let’s face it a player on 5k a week who now might only get offered 1.5k a week max by any new club is still gonna sign rather than go work in a normal job for £400 a week.

Similar may happen to players values. Who knows.

Surely what this proves is a salary cap is needed in Football.

Even if we did have money to spend on a player in the summer these wage deferrals will have to be paid back which will put us in a bad place with FFP.

Say just four players take a 5k a week payout now , that only means that in three months our wage bill goes up by 20k a week to pay it back meaning less room for new player wages.

Dalman is right the players have done nothing to really help the club it should be a paycut .

Having said that I doubt we will see hardly any movement this year other than free agents and loans of young players right across all leagues

Hardly news.
What we will see is massively varying contracts for those who will be out of contract this summer compared to those still in a contract.
There will still be some with more money than others and I doubt a salary cap will come about. Salaries are obviously going to be massively reduced which is no bad thing at all. The top of the game will set the tone as one top PL players salary would pay a lower league clubs wage bill for a season or more. There will be more games on TV and various streaming services for sure in the meantime.

Deferrals are a complete waste of time and Dalman is correct the players have done f**k all to help the club

All they have agreed to do is to get their full salaries a few months late

Pretty much all ceo and directors of most big business have agreed to temporary pay cuts some of them substantial cuts

Once again highly paid footballers are leaving themselves wide open to criticism with their greedy attitude

What I do know is future salaries are going to be much reduced as all clubs have been hit hard by this lockdown and even billionaire owners will have taken huge hits to the massed fortunes

Deferrals are a complete waste of time and Dalman is correct the players have done f**k all to help the club

All they have agreed to do is to get their full salaries a few months late

Pretty much all ceo and directors of most big business have agreed to temporary pay cuts some of them substantial cuts

Once again highly paid footballers are leaving themselves wide open to criticism with their greedy attitude

What I do know is future salaries are going to be much reduced as all clubs have been hit hard by this lockdown and even billionaire owners will have taken huge hits to the massed fortunes

Spot on mate a deferral helps nobody but the person who has agreed to take it!! Football is going to be changed after all this is over,with a lot of clubs facing a precipice of debt,and some even going bust completely. A salary cap will have to come into effect surely?

Absolutely no difference to how it would have been if coronavirus had never existed.

All we've heard since Warnock left was that there was no money available this season and there was going to be no money available next season either and undoubtedly that was part of the reason Harris was appointed.

I think the players will have a bit of a shock coming to them when their contracts are coming to an end as most will certainly be offered lower terms I would imagine whether they choose to stay or look elsewhere.

Hardly surprising going to be a lot of clubs going bust, thank god we got parachute payments

I’ll settle for that,be just glad to keep going in these trouble times.

Deferrals are a complete waste of time and Dalman is correct the players have done f**k all to help the club

All they have agreed to do is to get their full salaries a few months late

Pretty much all ceo and directors of most big business have agreed to temporary pay cuts some of them substantial cuts

Once again highly paid footballers are leaving themselves wide open to criticism with their greedy attitude

What I do know is future salaries are going to be much reduced as all clubs have been hit hard by this lockdown and even billionaire owners will have taken huge hits to the massed fortunes

Spot on mate a deferral helps nobody but the person who has agreed to take it!! Football is going to be changed after all this is over,with a lot of clubs facing a precipice of debt,and some even going bust completely. A salary cap will have to come into effect surely?

Yep, very hard to disagree with the above...

Hardly surprising going to be a lot of clubs going bust, thank god we got parachute payments

I don't know the answer but if the PL season isn't finished and Sky have no need to pay the PL £750m then does that have a knock on effect on parachute payments?

Deferrals are a complete waste of time and Dalman is correct the players have done f**k all to help the club

All they have agreed to do is to get their full salaries a few months late

Pretty much all ceo and directors of most big business have agreed to temporary pay cuts some of them substantial cuts

Once again highly paid footballers are leaving themselves wide open to criticism with their greedy attitude

What I do know is future salaries are going to be much reduced as all clubs have been hit hard by this lockdown and even billionaire owners will have taken huge hits to the massed fortunes

Dalman claims the defferals are not the fault of the players due to the fact they haven't been shown 'leadership'.

I would disagree players always follow the advice of their agents and you can bet the leadership there wants to screw clubs for every penny because ultimately a large percentage of that money ends up in the agents pocket.

Deferrals are a complete waste of time and Dalman is correct the players have done f**k all to help the club

All they have agreed to do is to get their full salaries a few months late

Pretty much all ceo and directors of most big business have agreed to temporary pay cuts some of them substantial cuts

Once again highly paid footballers are leaving themselves wide open to criticism with their greedy attitude

What I do know is future salaries are going to be much reduced as all clubs have been hit hard by this lockdown and even billionaire owners will have taken huge hits to the massed fortunes

Dalman claims the defferals are not the fault of the players due to the fact they haven't been shown 'leadership'.

I would disagree players always follow the advice of their agents and you can bet the leadership there want to screw clubs for every penny because ultimately a large percentage of that money ends up in the agents pocket.

Deferrals are a complete waste of time and Dalman is correct the players have done f**k all to help the club

All they have agreed to do is to get their full salaries a few months late

Pretty much all ceo and directors of most big business have agreed to temporary pay cuts some of them substantial cuts

Once again highly paid footballers are leaving themselves wide open to criticism with their greedy attitude

What I do know is future salaries are going to be much reduced as all clubs have been hit hard by this lockdown and even billionaire owners will have taken huge hits to the massed fortunes

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Dalman claims the defferals are not the fault of the players due to the fact they haven't been shown 'leadership'.

I would disagree players always follow the advice of their agents and you can bet the leadership there want to screw clubs for every penny because ultimately a large percentage of that money ends up in the agents pocket.

Has our owner taken a pay cut?

Oh no he has never taken a penny from the club has he?

Thankfully moving forward we will be in a better position than most.

I can live with that, I'm just glad we will have a club left

Deferrals are a complete waste of time and Dalman is correct the players have done f**k all to help the club

All they have agreed to do is to get their full salaries a few months late

Pretty much all ceo and directors of most big business have agreed to temporary pay cuts some of them substantial cuts

Once again highly paid footballers are leaving themselves wide open to criticism with their greedy attitude

What I do know is future salaries are going to be much reduced as all clubs have been hit hard by this lockdown and even billionaire owners will have taken huge hits to the massed fortunes

Dalman claims the defferals are not the fault of the players due to the fact they haven't been shown 'leadership'.

I would disagree players always follow the advice of their agents and you can bet the leadership there want to screw clubs for every penny because ultimately a large percentage of that money ends up in the agents pocket.[/quote]

The 'leadership' needs to come from the PFA, with percentage reduction in salaries for every player IMHO. It won't happen as they've been treated like gods for far too long. However, when the transfer market collapses because there's no money available and when players out of contract can't find a club, it will start to sink in. Clubs will have to resort to bringing through homegrown talent from academies earlier than they have in the past.
Another way the situation could be improved, would be a cap on the amount agents can have for transfers preferably through a fixed fee. Solicitors used to have a percentage of monies obtained from cases like whiplash from RTA's, until a fixed fee system was started. Plus start putting clauses in contracts for players to only receive half their salary if they're injured and can't play. The players could take out insurance to cover the loss in salary, plus they would place more emphasis on mobility, stretching etc to reduce the chance of injury.However, if a player is injured through a dangerous tackle, make the player who committed the foul pay the half salary. Outside of football, if someone is injured and they lose money from time off work, regardless of whether it was an accident, they can sue those responsible. If a player pushes another off the ball and they get injured, nothing much happens. If a fan pushed another fan and they get injured, they can expect a possible prison sentence and at the very least a lengthy ban. I won't hold my breath for any of this happening, but it does show possible solutions to the problems.

I think depending on how long the lockdown last and how soon we have matches in front of crowds again many football clubs are going to go bankrupt paticularly in league on and two. There may even be some good frees from clubs that have gone bankrupt. Most clubs in league one and two rely heavily on income from attendances and will not survive for much longer without them. This could well change the face of British football. We will probably get a league two north and south too and no league three.

I think depending on how long the lockdown last and how soon we have matches in front of crowds again many football clubs are going to go bankrupt paticularly in league on and two. There may even be some good frees from clubs that have gone bankrupt. Most clubs in league one and two rely heavily on income from attendances and will not survive for much longer without them. This could well change the face of British football. We will probably get a league two north and south too and no league three.

don't see the north /south thing... savings would be minimal..

Deferrals are a complete waste of time and Dalman is correct the players have done f**k all to help the club

All they have agreed to do is to get their full salaries a few months late

Pretty much all ceo and directors of most big business have agreed to temporary pay cuts some of them substantial cuts

Once again highly paid footballers are leaving themselves wide open to criticism with their greedy attitude

What I do know is future salaries are going to be much reduced as all clubs have been hit hard by this lockdown and even billionaire owners will have taken huge hits to the massed fortunes

Dalman claims the defferals are not the fault of the players due to the fact they haven't been shown 'leadership'.

I would disagree players always follow the advice of their agents and you can bet the leadership there want to screw clubs for every penny because ultimately a large percentage of that money ends up in the agents pocket.

The 'leadership' needs to come from the PFA, with percentage reduction in salaries for every player IMHO. It won't happen as they've been treated like gods for far too long. However, when the transfer market collapses because there's no money available and when players out of contract can't find a club, it will start to sink in. Clubs will have to resort to bringing through homegrown talent from academies earlier than they have in the past.
Another way the situation could be improved, would be a cap on the amount agents can have for transfers preferably through a fixed fee. Solicitors used to have a percentage of monies obtained from cases like whiplash from RTA's, until a fixed fee system was started. Plus start putting clauses in contracts for players to only receive half their salary if they're injured and can't play. The players could take out insurance to cover the loss in salary, plus they would place more emphasis on mobility, stretching etc to reduce the chance of injury.However, if a player is injured through a dangerous tackle, make the player who committed the foul pay the half salary. Outside of football, if someone is injured and they lose money from time off work, regardless of whether it was an accident, they can sue those responsible. If a player pushes another off the ball and they get injured, nothing much happens. If a fan pushed another fan and they get injured, they can expect a possible prison sentence and at the very least a lengthy ban. I won't hold my breath for any of this happening, but it does show possible solutions to the problems.[/quote]


emphasis on mobility ...they are professional athletes

Absolutely no difference to how it would have been if coronavirus had never existed.

All we've heard since Warnock left was that there was no money available this season and there was going to be no money available next season either and undoubtedly that was part of the reason Harris was appointed.

I think the players will have a bit of a shock coming to them when their contracts are coming to an end as most will certainly be offered lower terms I would imagine whether they choose to stay or look elsewhere.

yep your correct, all we have heard id no more spending and cut backs...where there might be a difference is other clubs will now all be doing likewise..

Time for a BIG change in the game as we know it.
The bubble has finally burst.

Many clubs will fold without games.
It will take years to recover if fans don’t return.

As an oldie myself I am unsure about renewing my ST as I am not in good health.
Until there is a vaccine I don’t want to put myself in danger.

Most players will be unable to demand high wages in their next contract.
Younger players on lower contracts will be the way forward.
On the plus side it will be great to see young local players developing.

The leaders of the game need to put a limit on earnings below the top tier so clubs can survive.
The money from TV should be spread out more evenly NOT JUST THE PREMIER if they want a future.

Stay safe everyone.

Absolutely no difference to how it would have been if coronavirus had never existed.

All we've heard since Warnock left was that there was no money available this season and there was going to be no money available next season either and undoubtedly that was part of the reason Harris was appointed.

I think the players will have a bit of a shock coming to them when their contracts are coming to an end as most will certainly be offered lower terms I would imagine whether they choose to stay or look elsewhere.

Spot on David

Absolutely no difference to how it would have been if coronavirus had never existed.

All we've heard since Warnock left was that there was no money available this season and there was going to be no money available next season either and undoubtedly that was part of the reason Harris was appointed.

I think the players will have a bit of a shock coming to them when their contracts are coming to an end as most will certainly be offered lower terms I would imagine whether they choose to stay or look elsewhere.

Spot on David

£90 million in parachute money Over 100 million last season.
Something doesn't add up.

Absolutely no difference to how it would have been if coronavirus had never existed.

All we've heard since Warnock left was that there was no money available this season and there was going to be no money available next season either and undoubtedly that was part of the reason Harris was appointed.

I think the players will have a bit of a shock coming to them when their contracts are coming to an end as most will certainly be offered lower terms I would imagine whether they choose to stay or look elsewhere.

Spot on David

£90 million in parachute money Over 100 million last season.
Something doesn't add up.

no mate it doesn't...everyone and their tortoise has blamed players for not immediately rushing to take wage cuts..
how about clubs run themselves properly. including ours.

The financial bubble has/will burst that cocoons the footballing world.

The rightful high reward recipients for a day's work are not those strutting around the football pitches BUT the nurses, carers and those still sacrificing their time during this current mega crisis.

Hopefully everyone's perspective and opinions of the truly life saving work they do will finally be recognised.

Absolutely no difference to how it would have been if coronavirus had never existed.

All we've heard since Warnock left was that there was no money available this season and there was going to be no money available next season either and undoubtedly that was part of the reason Harris was appointed.

I think the players will have a bit of a shock coming to them when their contracts are coming to an end as most will certainly be offered lower terms I would imagine whether they choose to stay or look elsewhere.

Spot on David

£90 million in parachute money Over 100 million last season.
Something doesn't add up.

100% it does not add up and I for one never have and never will trust the so called Committee Tan/Dalman & Chooo Hmmmmmm?