Very touching and Sad to read
Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:34 pm
One of the SPANISH ministers presented this to the SPANISH President Sánchez, signed by over 5mill people 
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After more than 40 days without going out, where our children have been undervalued in all their rights and still have accepted the situation.
Situation with many social differences ... because a small house with land - which most of our leaders will have - is not the same as a shared room in subhuman conditions or an apartment with patio views 24 hours a day.
We are told that on the 27th the children will be able to go outside. Imagine the illusion of children to take a race and notice the wind on their faces.
And they go now and rectify that they can only go shopping ... But let's see, gentlemen leaders of this country full of intelligent people who cannot plan an organization of 30-minute walks from 5 to 6, the peer portals and 6 to 7 odd ones.
Sure that EVERYONE CAN find the solution !! But of course what is not feasible is to take a child to a supermarket to touch the products, the shelves or even suck the cart as we have seen in some WhatsApp.
Therefore, I encourage you all to sign this petition. So that the Government realizes that it is playing with us and cannot afford it !!
For the children who are the great forgotten ones !!!
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=214316
Because children need a WALK !!
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=214316
After more than 40 days without going out, where our children have been undervalued in all their rights and still have accepted the situation.
Situation with many social differences ... because a small house with land - which most of our leaders will have - is not the same as a shared room in subhuman conditions or an apartment with patio views 24 hours a day.
We are told that on the 27th the children will be able to go outside. Imagine the illusion of children to take a race and notice the wind on their faces.
And they go now and rectify that they can only go shopping ... But let's see, gentlemen leaders of this country full of intelligent people who cannot plan an organization of 30-minute walks from 5 to 6, the peer portals and 6 to 7 odd ones.
Sure that EVERYONE CAN find the solution !! But of course what is not feasible is to take a child to a supermarket to touch the products, the shelves or even suck the cart as we have seen in some WhatsApp.
Therefore, I encourage you all to sign this petition. So that the Government realizes that it is playing with us and cannot afford it !!
For the children who are the great forgotten ones !!!
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=214316
Because children need a WALK !!
Re: Very touching and Sad to read
Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:56 pm
It's strange how governments seem to be so out of touch with the people they govern.
From your own reports over the past few months Annis it seems as if the Spanish people have been exemplary in dealing with a much stricter lockdown than the one we have in the UK and yet their government are still unwilling to listen to the people.
Eventually things will have to start getting back to normal no matter how slowly but human nature is such that a long period of enforce incarceration will inevitably lead to unrest as people's health and livelihoods come under threat.
From your own reports over the past few months Annis it seems as if the Spanish people have been exemplary in dealing with a much stricter lockdown than the one we have in the UK and yet their government are still unwilling to listen to the people.
Eventually things will have to start getting back to normal no matter how slowly but human nature is such that a long period of enforce incarceration will inevitably lead to unrest as people's health and livelihoods come under threat.
Re: Very touching and Sad to read
Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:06 pm
davids wrote:It's strange how governments seem to be so out of touch with the people they govern.
From your own reports over the past few months Annis it seems as if the Spanish people have been exemplary in dealing with a much stricter lockdown than the one we have in the UK and yet their government are still unwilling to listen to the people.
Eventually things will have to start getting back to normal no matter how slowly but human nature is such that a long period of enforce incarceration will inevitably lead to unrest as people's health and livelihoods come under threat.
Thank you David
Yes honestly I can say how proud I am to live among the Spanish and see them listen and abide by the very strict lockdown and every night go on their balconies and clap and sing for the frontline, 7 nights a week at 8pm.
Never ever seen an under 18 out of their house.
Only ever seen one person walk down my road in all these days.
The President is well out of touch with the real people and thankfully the working class have ministers there who are now rising up for them, you can’t expect everyone to lie down and be locked away like they have been and just let it go on and on .
People will rise and it’s actually happening and thankfully we have been given a little bit of light
Re: Very touching and Sad to read
Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:14 pm
Spanish government does U-turn, will allow children aged 14 and under out for walks
Earlier in the day, the Cabinet had decided that minors would only be able to leave the house to go to the supermarket, pharmacy or bank with a parent or guardian
El País
Health Minister Salvador Illa during Tuesday's press conference.
Health Minister Salvador Illa during Tuesday's press conference.Moncloa / EFE
Health Minister Salvador Illa announced on Tuesday evening that children aged 14 and under will, in the end, be allowed to leave their homes for accompanied walks from April 26 onward, after plans announced by the Cabinet earlier in the day to restrict such trips outside for youngsters to just visits to the supermarket, pharmacies or banks were widely criticized. The minister made clear that these latter activities will still be permitted for those aged 14 and under, while those aged 15 to 17 will be able to carry them out alone according to a statement made earlier in the day by the government spokesperson, María Jesús Montero.
After its weekly meeting today, the Cabinet announced that children aged 14 and under will be allowed out of the home accompanied by an adult under the same conditions that currently apply according to coronavirus confinement measures introduced on March 14 when a state of alarm was implemented by the Spanish government.
Speaking at a press conference earlier today, Montero said: “We are proposing that from April 27, minors aged 14 and under can accompany an adult on a trip outside of the house, such as going to the supermarket or the pharmacy.” That meant that minors would not have been able to leave the house with adults to go for a walk in the open air.
The Socialist Party (PSOE)-Unidas Podemos coalition government has imposed the strictest coronavirus confinement measures in the world, and the country’s 8.3 million minors have been shut away in their homes for more than five weeks now, with very few exceptions to the confinement rules that allow them to get out onto the streets – such as if there is no one in the household who could take care of a minor when the parent or guardian has to go to buy essential items.
The ongoing confinement of children had already prompted criticism among the political opposition and experts alike, who have been warning of the possible adverse effects the situation is having on the health – both physical and mental – of youngsters.
The government’s announcement earlier today about the relaxation of confinement measures for children was widely rejected by political parties – including those on the left – and members of the public alike on social media, many of whom pointed out that there was a much greater chance of infection for children in a closed space such as a supermarket than in the open air.
“This government listens,” said Health Minister Salvador Illa on Tuesday night about the U-turn. “This weekend I will issue an order so that children aged 14 and under can go out for walks.” He added that the conditions under which minors would be able to leave the house for walks would be “announced soon,” and went on to call for the public “to allow us to finish the details” of the plan, including "maximum time, distance and safety. This is going for a walk, and not going out to shop, which they will also be able to do,” he clarified.
Asked by reporters as to why the Cabinet had changed course on the issue of minors, if, as he had earlier stated, it had taken into account the opinion of experts before reaching its original decision, he said that “the government is going to continue acting with maximum caution, and being very conscious of the tough measures” that are currently in place.
The extension to the current state of alarm will be debated on Wednesday in Congress, and will need the support of other parties if, as Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has already announced, it is to be extended from April 27 until May 9.
Earlier in the day, the Cabinet had decided that minors would only be able to leave the house to go to the supermarket, pharmacy or bank with a parent or guardian
El País
Health Minister Salvador Illa during Tuesday's press conference.
Health Minister Salvador Illa during Tuesday's press conference.Moncloa / EFE
Health Minister Salvador Illa announced on Tuesday evening that children aged 14 and under will, in the end, be allowed to leave their homes for accompanied walks from April 26 onward, after plans announced by the Cabinet earlier in the day to restrict such trips outside for youngsters to just visits to the supermarket, pharmacies or banks were widely criticized. The minister made clear that these latter activities will still be permitted for those aged 14 and under, while those aged 15 to 17 will be able to carry them out alone according to a statement made earlier in the day by the government spokesperson, María Jesús Montero.
After its weekly meeting today, the Cabinet announced that children aged 14 and under will be allowed out of the home accompanied by an adult under the same conditions that currently apply according to coronavirus confinement measures introduced on March 14 when a state of alarm was implemented by the Spanish government.
Speaking at a press conference earlier today, Montero said: “We are proposing that from April 27, minors aged 14 and under can accompany an adult on a trip outside of the house, such as going to the supermarket or the pharmacy.” That meant that minors would not have been able to leave the house with adults to go for a walk in the open air.
The Socialist Party (PSOE)-Unidas Podemos coalition government has imposed the strictest coronavirus confinement measures in the world, and the country’s 8.3 million minors have been shut away in their homes for more than five weeks now, with very few exceptions to the confinement rules that allow them to get out onto the streets – such as if there is no one in the household who could take care of a minor when the parent or guardian has to go to buy essential items.
The ongoing confinement of children had already prompted criticism among the political opposition and experts alike, who have been warning of the possible adverse effects the situation is having on the health – both physical and mental – of youngsters.
The government’s announcement earlier today about the relaxation of confinement measures for children was widely rejected by political parties – including those on the left – and members of the public alike on social media, many of whom pointed out that there was a much greater chance of infection for children in a closed space such as a supermarket than in the open air.
“This government listens,” said Health Minister Salvador Illa on Tuesday night about the U-turn. “This weekend I will issue an order so that children aged 14 and under can go out for walks.” He added that the conditions under which minors would be able to leave the house for walks would be “announced soon,” and went on to call for the public “to allow us to finish the details” of the plan, including "maximum time, distance and safety. This is going for a walk, and not going out to shop, which they will also be able to do,” he clarified.
Asked by reporters as to why the Cabinet had changed course on the issue of minors, if, as he had earlier stated, it had taken into account the opinion of experts before reaching its original decision, he said that “the government is going to continue acting with maximum caution, and being very conscious of the tough measures” that are currently in place.
The extension to the current state of alarm will be debated on Wednesday in Congress, and will need the support of other parties if, as Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has already announced, it is to be extended from April 27 until May 9.
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