Breaking news tonight Johnson missed 5 COBRA MEETINGS.

The first on January 24,and then 4 more as the virus became a massive threat.
His first appearance was on March 2.

Awful by Boris and in all honesty disgraceful.


PM Boris never took this virus seriously and that’s been part of the problem I have argued with for weeks with people including Wez.

I hate to admit this ,My honest view the Govt on this have been a shambles .

The first on January 24,and then 4 more as the virus became a massive threat.
His first appearance was on March 2.

but it wasn't being seen as a massive threat prior to March the 2nd anywhere …
Macron visited the hospital where the 1 French person had died... and had also just visited Italy ..
and Spain... well look at this lot on March the 8th..
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic ... irus-fears.

there had been no deaths here, spain , germany, holand, Belgium and just a small sprinkling of cases...

I think the government have done quite well to be fair.
Nobody knows really how to deal with this and I'm just relieved that we do not have Corbyn in charge now because that would have been a disaster.

The biggest mistake they have made is not being tough on London and people flouting the rules.

Other than than that I cant see what they have done wrong really

I think the government have done quite well to be fair.
Nobody knows really how to deal with this and I'm just relieved that we do not have Corbyn in charge now because that would have been a disaster.

The biggest mistake they have made is not being tough on London and people flouting the rules.

Other than than that I cant see what they have done wrong really

The hypothetical question about Corbyn is completely irrelevant. The Tories are in power and have been for a decade. Everything that happens in this crisis and beyond is down to them. It is their funding of the NHS, it's their policies on social care and its their decisions in the crisis. They have failed to respond with the necessary urgency throughout this period. As the thread states Johnson missed 5 COBRA meetings. The failed to stop inbound flights to this county early enough, failed to lockdown the country early enough, failed to secure PPE and ventilators early enough and the list goes on. A quick look at the Sunday papers shows you the mood the country is heading with the government's handling of all this. Even the Daily Mail is beginning to seriously question them.

More political point scoring. Yawn

Did anyone really think that the virus was not going to cross borders was living in cloud cuckoo land.

For Boris to miss 5 meetings is indefensible.

Matt Hancock in January stated on question time that availability of PPE was no issue and sitting in warehouses.

A shocking lie.

I think the government have done quite well to be fair.
Nobody knows really how to deal with this and I'm just relieved that we do not have Corbyn in charge now because that would have been a disaster.

The biggest mistake they have made is not being tough on London and people flouting the rules.

Other than than that I cant see what they have done wrong really

The hypothetical question about Corbyn is completely irrelevant. The Tories are in power and have been for a decade. Everything that happens in this crisis and beyond is down to them. It is their funding of the NHS, it's their policies on social care and its their decisions in the crisis. They have failed to respond with the necessary urgency throughout this period. As the thread states Johnson missed 5 COBRA meetings. The failed to stop inbound flights to this county early enough, failed to lockdown the country early enough, failed to secure PPE and ventilators early enough and the list goes on. A quick look at the Sunday papers shows you the mood the country is heading with the government's handling of all this. Even the Daily Mail is beginning to seriously question them.

The NHS is not poorly funded it's the way the money is spent that is the problem.
Hindsite is a great thing but if they closed the country down early and we had no cases people would say they were wrong to do it so early. You can't just close a country at the drop of a hat it has cost billions of pounds and millions of jobs. We will be paying this off for 50 years it was not a easy decision.
Regarding ventilators and PPE , nobody saw this coming and nobody had any idea all these ventilators would be needed so why would they stockpile thousands at nearly 20k each ? They would be ridiculed for wasting money again.

Flights from China should have been stopped earlier yes but again you have to way IP the financial impact of doing that.

They can't win either way and to be fair they have not done a bad job

Did anyone really think that the virus was not going to cross borders was living in cloud cuckoo land.

For Boris to miss 5 meetings is indefensible.

Matt Hancock in January stated on question time that availability of PPE was no issue and sitting in warehouses.

A shocking lie.

Stop political point scoring, Boris missed the cobra meetings because he was ill, and then in hospital, did you miss that,unbelievable!

I think the government have done quite well to be fair.
Nobody knows really how to deal with this and I'm just relieved that we do not have Corbyn in charge now because that would have been a disaster.

The biggest mistake they have made is not being tough on London and people flouting the rules.

Other than than that I cant see what they have done wrong really

The hypothetical question about Corbyn is completely irrelevant. The Tories are in power and have been for a decade. Everything that happens in this crisis and beyond is down to them. It is their funding of the NHS, it's their policies on social care and its their decisions in the crisis. They have failed to respond with the necessary urgency throughout this period. As the thread states Johnson missed 5 COBRA meetings. The failed to stop inbound flights to this county early enough, failed to lockdown the country early enough, failed to secure PPE and ventilators early enough and the list goes on. A quick look at the Sunday papers shows you the mood the country is heading with the government's handling of all this. Even the Daily Mail is beginning to seriously question them.

The NHS is not poorly funded it's the way the money is spent that is the problem.
Hindsite is a great thing but if they closed the country down early and we had no cases people would say they were wrong to do it so early. You can't just close a country at the drop of a hat it has cost billions of pounds and millions of jobs. We will be paying this off for 50 years it was not a easy decision.
Regarding ventilators and PPE , nobody saw this coming and nobody had any idea all these ventilators would be needed so why would they stockpile thousands at nearly 20k each ? They would be ridiculed for wasting money again.

Flights from China should have been stopped earlier yes but again you have to way IP the financial impact of doing that.

They can't win either way and to be fair they have not done a bad job

Jesus Christ,if Carlsberg did factual ignorance and disinformation.

I think the government have done quite well to be fair.
Nobody knows really how to deal with this and I'm just relieved that we do not have Corbyn in charge now because that would have been a disaster.

The biggest mistake they have made is not being tough on London and people flouting the rules.

Other than than that I cant see what they have done wrong really

The hypothetical question about Corbyn is completely irrelevant. The Tories are in power and have been for a decade. Everything that happens in this crisis and beyond is down to them. It is their funding of the NHS, it's their policies on social care and its their decisions in the crisis. They have failed to respond with the necessary urgency throughout this period. As the thread states Johnson missed 5 COBRA meetings. The failed to stop inbound flights to this county early enough, failed to lockdown the country early enough, failed to secure PPE and ventilators early enough and the list goes on. A quick look at the Sunday papers shows you the mood the country is heading with the government's handling of all this. Even the Daily Mail is beginning to seriously question them.

The NHS is not poorly funded it's the way the money is spent that is the problem.
Hindsite is a great thing but if they closed the country down early and we had no cases people would say they were wrong to do it so early. You can't just close a country at the drop of a hat it has cost billions of pounds and millions of jobs. We will be paying this off for 50 years it was not a easy decision.
Regarding ventilators and PPE , nobody saw this coming and nobody had any idea all these ventilators would be needed so why would they stockpile thousands at nearly 20k each ? They would be ridiculed for wasting money again.

Flights from China should have been stopped earlier yes but again you have to way IP the financial impact of doing that.

They can't win either way and to be fair they have not done a bad job

Jesus Christ,if Carlsberg did factual ignorance and disinformation.

Show me a fact that proves differently other than it being your opinion

One fact is that the Government are not responsible for procurement of PPE for the NHS. It is the role of the CE.
Blaming Hancock is wrong, but some people seem confused.

One fact is that the Government are not responsible for procurement of PPE for the NHS. It is the role of the CE.
Blaming Hancock is wrong, but some people seem confused.

No but as a government we hold a national stockpile of equipment, medical and otherwise for disaster situations.
How People can blame the government
For mishandling this baffles me.
They are not to blame for a worldwide shortage of PPE in a pandemic.
People say the NHS is underfunded but the fact is they have been brilliant in this situation and have coped relatively easily with huge numbers of patients so far.
No matter who was in charge the PPE issue would still be a problem.

Did anyone really think that the virus was not going to cross borders was living in cloud cuckoo land.

For Boris to miss 5 meetings is indefensible.

Matt Hancock in January stated on question time that availability of PPE was no issue and sitting in warehouses.

A shocking lie.

Stop political point scoring, Boris missed the cobra meetings because he was ill, and then in hospital, did you miss that,unbelievable!

These meetings were in February!

'And what you learn about Boris was he didn't chair any meetings. He liked his country breaks. He didn't work weekends.

'It was like working for an old-fashioned chief executive in a local authority 20 years ago. There was a real sense that he didn't do urgent crisis planning. It was exactly like people feared he would be.'

UK government under fire for 'missed opportunities'

The UK government has been accused of missing a number of opportunities to lessen the impact of the coronavirus.

The Sunday Times reports that Boris Johnson missed five meetings of the emergency Cobra committee as the health crisis was looming and the government is accused of losing weeks in the fight against Covid-19.

The government is facing criticism over its preparedness for the crisis, over testing, the timing of the lockdown and personal protective equipment.

Cabinet Office Minister Michael Gove told Sky there were aspects of the newspaper report that were "slightly off", and would not be drawn on accusations that the UK sent 266,000 pieces of protective equipment to China.

Shadow health secretary, Jonathan Ashworth, was damning of the senior minister's comments.

Mr Ashworth told Sky: "Michael Gove's line that one or two aspects of this story are off beam is possibly the weakest rebuttal of a detailed expose in British political history."

Awful by Boris and in all honesty disgraceful.


PM Boris never took this virus seriously and that’s been part of the problem I have argued with for weeks with people including Wez.

I hate to admit this ,My honest view the Govt on this have been a shambles .

Absolutely agree with you Annis

The way the government (and previous governments) have treated the NHS has been nothing short of scandalous for many many years and now these constant cuts in funding are coming home to roost.

It's ironic that we're all being told to Protect the NHS by a government that has spent years doing anything but.

They've caused far more problems for the NHS in the current climate than a few knobheads sitting on a bench social distancing.

One fact is that the Government are not responsible for procurement of PPE for the NHS. It is the role of the CE.
Blaming Hancock is wrong, but some people seem confused.

Well guess what ?? All this stock due to come in today from Turkey - AS PROMISED TO NHS .... Is not coming in today !!!!

One fact is that the Government are not responsible for procurement of PPE for the NHS. It is the role of the CE.
Blaming Hancock is wrong, but some people seem confused.

Well guess what ?? All this stock due to come in today from Turkey - AS PROMISED TO NHS .... Is not coming in today !!!!

If its so easy to get these supplies why dont you offer your services to the government and order them for us ?
Every country in the world is scrapping round for PPE they are not just going to sell us the supplies when they need them themselves.

One fact is that the Government are not responsible for procurement of PPE for the NHS. It is the role of the CE.
Blaming Hancock is wrong, but some people seem confused.

Well guess what ?? All this stock due to come in today from Turkey - AS PROMISED TO NHS .... Is not coming in today !!!!

If its so easy to get these supplies why dont you offer your services to the government and order them for us ?
Every country in the world is scrapping round for PPE they are not just going to sell us the supplies when they need them themselves.

Are you keeping up with the news - there are companies out there in the UK who have emailed the Gov to provide the PPE .

There was an 8 year old out there making the stuff yesterday - covered on Breakfast TV .

Jenerick - asked yesterday for these companies to email them again after a reporter made him aware of the problem .

They have had over 2 months to sort this out - there are people put in charge of these departments -
That's how business works - so there is NO NEED FOR ME TO OFFER MY SERVICES - (Just needs people to take up the offers)

From a business on twitter

I have 200,000 medical Gowns 25g 35g. Protective suits, ICU suits googles face shields. gloves. masks etc. I'm being ignored by UK & Welsh Gov. NHS England & Wales. others countries buying whatever I can offer. it doesnt make sense, why
@MattHancock

is ignoring smaller business

UK sent 273,000 pieces of PPE to China

The UK sent 273,000 piece of personnel protection equipment (PPE) to China during the peak of their outbreak in February, according to Micheal Gove.

Mr Gove said: "We did send protective equipment to China. But, I think it's important to stress two things there as well. The first thing is that the personal protection equipment that we sent to China was to help with the most extreme outbreak in Wuhan.

"That personal protection equipment was not from our pandemic stock. And, also we have received far more from China in personal protective equipment than we have given."

Controversy has raged over the lack of PPE for NHS staff amid fears that some hospitals could run out of certain types this weekend.

Do you still want me to make that phone call and ask for our stuff back !!!! ????
A British Medical Association (BMA) survey of more than 6,000 doctors across the country said a significant amount of them remain without the protection they need to guard against Covid-19.

One fact is that the Government are not responsible for procurement of PPE for the NHS. It is the role of the CE.
Blaming Hancock is wrong, but some people seem confused.

Well guess what ?? All this stock due to come in today from Turkey - AS PROMISED TO NHS .... Is not coming in today !!!!

If its so easy to get these supplies why dont you offer your services to the government and order them for us ?
Every country in the world is scrapping round for PPE they are not just going to sell us the supplies when they need them themselves.

Are you keeping up with the news - there are companies out there in the UK who have emailed the Gov to provide the PPE .

There was an 8 year old out there making the stuff yesterday - covered on Breakfast TV .

Jenerick - asked yesterday for these companies to email them again after a reporter made him aware of the problem .

They have had over 2 months to sort this out - there are people put in charge of these departments -
That's how business works - so there is NO NEED FOR ME TO OFFER MY SERVICES - (Just needs people to take up the offers)

I think you are underestimating the size of the problem. Most of these so called companies are talking hundreds or thousands of items of PPE and nearly all we are not able to be used as they have not been tested. You cant just give nurses and doctors PPE that is unproven to be effective against virus and other diseases. The law suits would be hugeif people died because they used unchecked equipment.

The government are talking millions of items, the same items the whole world is looking for from the same companies.

Pretty funny though you are comparing it to a 8 year old in his bedroom as if he that is the answer.

That 8 year old was not in her bedroom - she had all the high tec stuff in the house - watch the video and give the girl some credit .

UK sent 273,000 pieces of PPE to China

The UK sent 273,000 piece of personnel protection equipment (PPE) to China during the peak of their outbreak in February, according to Micheal Gove.

Mr Gove said: "We did send protective equipment to China. But, I think it's important to stress two things there as well. The first thing is that the personal protection equipment that we sent to China was to help with the most extreme outbreak in Wuhan.

"That personal protection equipment was not from our pandemic stock. And, also we have received far more from China in personal protective equipment than we have given."

Controversy has raged over the lack of PPE for NHS staff amid fears that some hospitals could run out of certain types this weekend.

Do you still want me to make that phone call and ask for our stuff back !!!! ????
A British Medical Association (BMA) survey of more than 6,000 doctors across the country said a significant amount of them remain without the protection they need to guard against Covid-19.

So we do what everybody says at the time would be the right thing and help another country out when they have a major issue , then moan 2 months later about it when we need it. Hindsite is a great thing!

If the supermarkets collapse and we run out of food are you also going to moan that we've been sending food and medical supplies to other countries for years and now we need it back ?

That 8 year old was not in her bedroom - she had all the high tec stuff in the house - watch the video and give the girl some credit .

Well that's it then
Problem solved !

Give the girl a medal for single handedly fixing the problem

That 8 year old was not in her bedroom - she had all the high tec stuff in the house - watch the video and give the girl some credit .

Well that's it then
Problem solved !

Give the girl a medal for single handedly fixing the problem

UK sent 273,000 pieces of PPE to China

The UK sent 273,000 piece of personnel protection equipment (PPE) to China during the peak of their outbreak in February, according to Micheal Gove.

Mr Gove said: "We did send protective equipment to China. But, I think it's important to stress two things there as well. The first thing is that the personal protection equipment that we sent to China was to help with the most extreme outbreak in Wuhan.

"That personal protection equipment was not from our pandemic stock. And, also we have received far more from China in personal protective equipment than we have given."

Controversy has raged over the lack of PPE for NHS staff amid fears that some hospitals could run out of certain types this weekend.

A British Medical Association (BMA) survey of more than 6,000 doctors across the country said a significant amount of them remain without the protection they need to guard against Covid-19.

Did anyone really think that the virus was not going to cross borders was living in cloud cuckoo land.

For Boris to miss 5 meetings is indefensible.

Matt Hancock in January stated on question time that availability of PPE was no issue and sitting in warehouses.

A shocking lie.

Stop political point scoring, Boris missed the cobra meetings because he was ill, and then in hospital, did you miss that,unbelievable!

He wasn't ill in January mate. We are entitled to criticize this is not China.
If there was n criticism Chamberlain would have been PM for the whole of world war 2

Did anyone really think that the virus was not going to cross borders was living in cloud cuckoo land.

For Boris to miss 5 meetings is indefensible.

Matt Hancock in January stated on question time that availability of PPE was no issue and sitting in warehouses.

A shocking lie.

Stop political point scoring, Boris missed the cobra meetings because he was ill, and then in hospital, did you miss that,unbelievable!

Erm, the meetings were in February! Was he still on holiday possibly?

Did anyone really think that the virus was not going to cross borders was living in cloud cuckoo land.

For Boris to miss 5 meetings is indefensible.

Matt Hancock in January stated on question time that availability of PPE was no issue and sitting in warehouses.

A shocking lie.

Stop political point scoring, Boris missed the cobra meetings because he was ill, and then in hospital, did you miss that,unbelievable!

He wasn't ill in January mate. We are entitled to criticize this is not China.
If there was n criticism Chamberlain would have been PM for the whole of world war 2

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Did anyone really think that the virus was not going to cross borders was living in cloud cuckoo land.

For Boris to miss 5 meetings is indefensible.

Matt Hancock in January stated on question time that availability of PPE was no issue and sitting in warehouses.

A shocking lie.

Stop political point scoring, Boris missed the cobra meetings because he was ill, and then in hospital, did you miss that,unbelievable!

He wasn't ill in January mate. We are entitled to criticize this is not China.
If there was n criticism Chamberlain would have been PM for the whole of world war 2

One word....AGENDA!