“ VERY VERY INTERESTING / GENUINE “

This is very very interesting and 100% Genuine.

Yes there are less people out so way less chance of accidents leading to deaths but wow these figures

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Interesting indeed.

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

As long as he ain't talking extra terrestrial lizards again...

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

They die due to complications brought on because of the virus, they wouldn't have died if they didn't catch the virus so yes they do die because of it, your comment is stupid.
Anyone with more than one brain cell wouldn't agree with anything that nut job says

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

They die due to complications brought on because of the virus, they wouldn't have died if they didn't catch the virus so yes they do die because of it, your comment is stupid.
Anyone with more than one brain cell wouldn't agree with anything that nut job says

It's called opinion mate and btw I have more than one brain cell.
It's hard to see if you got your eyes shut

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

They die due to complications brought on because of the virus, they wouldn't have died if they didn't catch the virus so yes they do die because of it, your comment is stupid.
Anyone with more than one brain cell wouldn't agree with anything that nut job says

It's called opinion mate and btw I have more than one brain cell.
It's hard to see if you got your eyes shut

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

They die due to complications brought on because of the virus, they wouldn't have died if they didn't catch the virus so yes they do die because of it, your comment is stupid.
Anyone with more than one brain cell wouldn't agree with anything that nut job says

I think that what the figures are suggesting is that there would have been many deaths which would have sadly occurred even if coronavirus had never appeared.

There must be many people whose death has sadly been hastened by catching the virus but there must have been many people who were likely to die in any event in that time scale.

What has not been mentioned as far as I'm aware is how many people have died purely from the virus itself and no other cause.

I was surprised at those figures. But week 14 is a bit different.

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Hit the weekly tab.

This is like VT saying Marshall should score goals if he plays all the games or that Isaac Vassel should score without knowing he's always injured.

Week 11 finished on March 20th.

That was before "it" had taken effect here.

On average 1600 die in the UK every single day. We are now seeing over half that number perish each day just from Covid 19.

The statiscians can pick holes in data and recorded cases, those in hospitals, those at home etc all they like. Reality is hospitals are at breaking point and other treatments being effected as a result which will further add to mortalities and suffering.

The Government has and is throwing unprecedented levels of money at both the medical effort but also the welfare and business side of things. It only does that when its shitting itself.

The capacity of the various field hospitals is enormous in terms of beds. But who on earth is going to staff them? Health boards are already coping with staff shortages across the country.

At some point, lockdown is going to have to end or be reshaped and softened. We are all going to have to be exposed to "risk" at some level or another. At that stage, infections will increase all over again though at that point the Govt will be able to point to an increased capacity but that will not look like the NHS we are used to.

I don't think there are many, but for the few that pedal any form of line that this isnt as serious as being made out, I hope you're proved right!

We don't know if the Government was ever committed to the 'Herd Immunity' strategy but apparently a side affect was a predicted 250,000 deaths with people diagnosed with COVID-19.

If the Government had pursued a herd immunity strategy and 250,000 deaths had occurred then it would have blown out of the water the weekly death rates. With the lock down deaths should be around 20,000 or 8% of what it would have been with a non lock down.

Looking at it that way COVID-19 must be far more valiant than the above figures indicate.

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

They die due to complications brought on because of the virus, they wouldn't have died if they didn't catch the virus so yes they do die because of it, your comment is stupid.
Anyone with more than one brain cell wouldn't agree with anything that nut job says

Then please explain why only 12% of death certificates in Italy state covid 19 as the cause of death?? This was from a report from Italy, went on to say that the other 88% had 2,sometimes three serious underlying conditions, like heart disese,kidney disease,diabetes,cancers etc,so they would have died relatively soon anyway,thus they died,and had tested for covid 19 also, people need to realise,this country lost 14,000 in the last year,to complications from normal flu strain,ie pneumonia. Whilst covid is killing some without underlying conditions,it's certainly the case in most people who were in bad shape that this virus will unfortunately bring death for these people,a little sooner than expected,if my poor dad were alive,with the three conditions that he already had,which were triple bypass,a triple A (abdominal aortic anurism ) plus stage 2 lung cancer and dementia,he wouldn't have stood a chance if he had caught it.the figures are slightly up on a normal year,as this is a bitch of a virus,but not by huge numbers by comparison to last 12 months.understand I am not doubting the seriousness of this,I'm not listening too much to tv,or radio,as that's all it is,is coronavirus overload constantly.I am doing as requested in staying at home,except for my 3 day a week prescription deliveries voluntary work,Our freezer is full,we have what we need for the next 2 weeks,so it's stay home,and keep ourselves entertained,as per last month,and probably the next one too.if you listen hard enough,a lot of reports say " x amount of people have died,with coronavirus " not from coronavirus! Anyway,stay safe everyone,stay home,and save the NHS, this will be overcome in time.I've been practicing art!! F@ck me I'm shit at it

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

See my post above concerning recorded cause of death,on birth certificates in Italy! ! I'm not with anyone in particular, but do read stuff,outside the main media outlets,especially the bbc, 14000 deaths in this country from normal flu season in past year,before covid,figures are slightly up,but the virus takes hold in people with underlying serious condition/s in the main.

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

See my post above concerning recorded cause of death,on birth certificates in Italy! ! I'm not with anyone in particular, but do read stuff,outside the main media outlets,especially the bbc, 14000 deaths in this country from normal flu season in past year,before covid,figures are slightly up,but the virus takes hold in people with underlying serious condition/s in the main.

https://thewell.northwell.edu/well-info ... avirus-flu
Also underlying health conditions doesn't automatically mean they're terminal, many of those people could well have lived for many more years

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

See my post above concerning recorded cause of death,on birth certificates in Italy! ! I'm not with anyone in particular, but do read stuff,outside the main media outlets,especially the bbc, 14000 deaths in this country from normal flu season in past year,before covid,figures are slightly up,but the virus takes hold in people with underlying serious condition/s in the main.

I totally agree and the interview was eye opening. The figures are manipulated to scare us and I dont believe it for one minute that it's true.
Another good source is Gravitas and it's on YouTube. The lady asks so many questions

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

See my post above concerning recorded cause of death,on birth certificates in Italy! ! I'm not with anyone in particular, but do read stuff,outside the main media outlets,especially the bbc, 14000 deaths in this country from normal flu season in past year,before covid,figures are slightly up,but the virus takes hold in people with underlying serious condition/s in the main.

https://thewell.northwell.edu/well-info ... avirus-flu
Also underlying health conditions doesn't automatically mean they're terminal, many of those people could well have lived for many more years

the word SERIOUS is missing in that article compared to all the others ive read...and Drs do not write minor illnesses on death certificates .

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

See my post above concerning recorded cause of death,on birth certificates in Italy! ! I'm not with anyone in particular, but do read stuff,outside the main media outlets,especially the bbc, 14000 deaths in this country from normal flu season in past year,before covid,figures are slightly up,but the virus takes hold in people with underlying serious condition/s in the main.

https://thewell.northwell.edu/well-info ... avirus-flu
Also underlying health conditions doesn't automatically mean they're terminal, many of those people could well have lived for many more years

the word SERIOUS is missing in that article compared to all the others ive read...and Drs do not write minor illnesses on death certificates .

I did say in my post ,if he had read it,"with underlying SERIOUS conditions" because as you rightly point out dogfound,minor Ilnessess,are not recorded, as they are not deemed serious enough to be.in the Italy report 88% or thereabouts had covid,but that wasn't cause of death.recorded on death certificate,in most cases,it was reported a lot of patients had 2 sometimes three serious underlying illnesses, serious enough to cause death alone.

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

See my post above concerning recorded cause of death,on birth certificates in Italy! ! I'm not with anyone in particular, but do read stuff,outside the main media outlets,especially the bbc, 14000 deaths in this country from normal flu season in past year,before covid,figures are slightly up,but the virus takes hold in people with underlying serious condition/s in the main.

https://thewell.northwell.edu/well-info ... avirus-flu
Also underlying health conditions doesn't automatically mean they're terminal, many of those people could well have lived for many more years

the word SERIOUS is missing in that article compared to all the others ive read...and Drs do not write minor illnesses on death certificates .

I did say in my post ,if he had read it,"with underlying SERIOUS conditions" because as you rightly point out dogfound,minor Ilnessess,are not recorded, as they are not deemed serious enough to be.in the Italy report 88% or thereabouts had covid,but that wasn't cause of death.recorded on death certificate,in most cases,it was reported a lot of patients had 2 sometimes three serious underlying illnesses, serious enough to cause death alone.

not sure why he put the link in there mate... yes younger people can get it and its not the flu...
but the Italy report , compliled by Italys national health institute , sounds like the one I read.. its 99% one underlying , 75% 2 underlying and 49% 3 underlying conditions..average age of cases 63 years..average age of deaths 79 years ..
I also read the prof who is advisor to Italys health minister said 12% of deaths down to CV19.. but it was present in the other 88% ,was a couple of weeks ago though...

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

See my post above concerning recorded cause of death,on birth certificates in Italy! ! I'm not with anyone in particular, but do read stuff,outside the main media outlets,especially the bbc, 14000 deaths in this country from normal flu season in past year,before covid,figures are slightly up,but the virus takes hold in people with underlying serious condition/s in the main.

https://thewell.northwell.edu/well-info ... avirus-flu
Also underlying health conditions doesn't automatically mean they're terminal, many of those people could well have lived for many more years

the word SERIOUS is missing in that article compared to all the others ive read...and Drs do not write minor illnesses on death certificates .

I did say in my post ,if he had read it,"with underlying SERIOUS conditions" because as you rightly point out dogfound,minor Ilnessess,are not recorded, as they are not deemed serious enough to be.in the Italy report 88% or thereabouts had covid,but that wasn't cause of death.recorded on death certificate,in most cases,it was reported a lot of patients had 2 sometimes three serious underlying illnesses, serious enough to cause death alone.

not sure why he put the link in there mate... yes younger people can get it and its not the flu...
but the Italy report , compliled by Italys national health institute , sounds like the one I read.. its 99% one underlying , 75% 2 underlying and 49% 3 underlying conditions..average age of cases 63 years..average age of deaths 79 years ..
I also read the prof who is advisor to Italys health minister said 12% of deaths down to CV19.. but it was present in the other 88% ,was a couple of weeks ago though...

No,it (link)confused me a bit?,but yes it was present in 88%,but not attributed as cause of death,and 12% were direct result of covid 19.I doubt in this country we will never have the true figures though? And yes it was a couple of weeks ago,but doubt there has been any massive swing either way.

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

See my post above concerning recorded cause of death,on birth certificates in Italy! ! I'm not with anyone in particular, but do read stuff,outside the main media outlets,especially the bbc, 14000 deaths in this country from normal flu season in past year,before covid,figures are slightly up,but the virus takes hold in people with underlying serious condition/s in the main.

https://thewell.northwell.edu/well-info ... avirus-flu
Also underlying health conditions doesn't automatically mean they're terminal, many of those people could well have lived for many more years

the word SERIOUS is missing in that article compared to all the others ive read...and Drs do not write minor illnesses on death certificates .

I did say in my post ,if he had read it,"with underlying SERIOUS conditions" because as you rightly point out dogfound,minor Ilnessess,are not recorded, as they are not deemed serious enough to be.in the Italy report 88% or thereabouts had covid,but that wasn't cause of death.recorded on death certificate,in most cases,it was reported a lot of patients had 2 sometimes three serious underlying illnesses, serious enough to cause death alone.

not sure why he put the link in there mate... yes younger people can get it and its not the flu...
but the Italy report , compliled by Italys national health institute , sounds like the one I read.. its 99% one underlying , 75% 2 underlying and 49% 3 underlying conditions..average age of cases 63 years..average age of deaths 79 years ..
I also read the prof who is advisor to Italys health minister said 12% of deaths down to CV19.. but it was present in the other 88% ,was a couple of weeks ago though...

The link is for the brain dead idiots that are still comparing it to the flu

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

See my post above concerning recorded cause of death,on birth certificates in Italy! ! I'm not with anyone in particular, but do read stuff,outside the main media outlets,especially the bbc, 14000 deaths in this country from normal flu season in past year,before covid,figures are slightly up,but the virus takes hold in people with underlying serious condition/s in the main.

https://thewell.northwell.edu/well-info ... avirus-flu
Also underlying health conditions doesn't automatically mean they're terminal, many of those people could well have lived for many more years

the word SERIOUS is missing in that article compared to all the others ive read...and Drs do not write minor illnesses on death certificates .

I did say in my post ,if he had read it,"with underlying SERIOUS conditions" because as you rightly point out dogfound,minor Ilnessess,are not recorded, as they are not deemed serious enough to be.in the Italy report 88% or thereabouts had covid,but that wasn't cause of death.recorded on death certificate,in most cases,it was reported a lot of patients had 2 sometimes three serious underlying illnesses, serious enough to cause death alone.

not sure why he put the link in there mate... yes younger people can get it and its not the flu...
but the Italy report , compliled by Italys national health institute , sounds like the one I read.. its 99% one underlying , 75% 2 underlying and 49% 3 underlying conditions..average age of cases 63 years..average age of deaths 79 years ..
I also read the prof who is advisor to Italys health minister said 12% of deaths down to CV19.. but it was present in the other 88% ,was a couple of weeks ago though...

The link is for the brain dead idiots that are still comparing it to the flu

only flu ive seen it compared to on here is the Spanish flu...which this really really aint.

The figures are driven up by those who want us to be in fear. People dont die of Covid 19, they die after testing positive.

I'm with David Icke on this and if you've not seen his interview I suggest you have a look, it's very interesting and makes a load of sense.

See my post above concerning recorded cause of death,on birth certificates in Italy! ! I'm not with anyone in particular, but do read stuff,outside the main media outlets,especially the bbc, 14000 deaths in this country from normal flu season in past year,before covid,figures are slightly up,but the virus takes hold in people with underlying serious condition/s in the main.

https://thewell.northwell.edu/well-info ... avirus-flu
Also underlying health conditions doesn't automatically mean they're terminal, many of those people could well have lived for many more years

the word SERIOUS is missing in that article compared to all the others ive read...and Drs do not write minor illnesses on death certificates .

I did say in my post ,if he had read it,"with underlying SERIOUS conditions" because as you rightly point out dogfound,minor Ilnessess,are not recorded, as they are not deemed serious enough to be.in the Italy report 88% or thereabouts had covid,but that wasn't cause of death.recorded on death certificate,in most cases,it was reported a lot of patients had 2 sometimes three serious underlying illnesses, serious enough to cause death alone.

not sure why he put the link in there mate... yes younger people can get it and its not the flu...
but the Italy report , compliled by Italys national health institute , sounds like the one I read.. its 99% one underlying , 75% 2 underlying and 49% 3 underlying conditions..average age of cases 63 years..average age of deaths 79 years ..
I also read the prof who is advisor to Italys health minister said 12% of deaths down to CV19.. but it was present in the other 88% ,was a couple of weeks ago though...

The link is for the brain dead idiots that are still comparing it to the flu

Well for your information ,if you think I am foolish enough to compare it to flu,wrong! I had simply said that last year 14000+ had died in what is described as "the flu season" not compare covid with flu directly,and no need to call people brain dead,especially when you seem to be confused by my post? Which I believe to be the case, the comparison was put there to highlight,that although covid is bad,we lose 14/16000 anually to normal flu,and it's complications,ie pneumonia. I and others have read the report from Italy, and dogfound has even published the figures quoted by Italys health ministers advisor,covid is claiming the lives of people who are in the main,in poor health,plus their ages.plus a few unexpected cases.I respect your opinion,whilst I think we differ on the "scare level" of covid 19,fair enough,but name calling isn't needed