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Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, why

Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:51 pm

Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, why pick on them?

Updated:

Sunday 5th April 2020

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Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, why pick on them?

"Suddenly the whole profession has been put on the spot with a demand for 30 per cent pay cuts across the board. Why are footballers suddenly the scapegoats?"

"Why has it been made public Rooney asked?"
“It seemed strange to me because every other decision in this process has been kept behind closed doors, but this had to be announced publicly,” he added. “Why? It feels as if it’s to shame the players – to force them into a corner where they have to pick up the bill for lost revenue. In my opinion it is now a no-win situation. Whatever way you look at it, we’re easy targets.”

'Remember, players’ careers are short so they have to make investments or have savings, with most facing retirement at 35 but — unlike a previous generation — unable to draw a pension until much later.'

The 34-year-old said he could afford to help but others in his team might not be able to do so, we have houses and families as well as everyone else."



Players attack the Premier League over pay-cut proposal in damning new PFA statement

The union has criticised the proposals made by the Premier League in a strongly-worded statement

By Glen Williams

Sunday 5th April 2020



The PFA have written a strongly-worded statement after the Premier League's wage-cut proposal


The Professional Footballers' Association have taken aim at the Premier League, questioning the benefits of a league-wide 30 percent pay cut.

The union has also warned that players are mindful that, as PAYE employees, they make a big contribution to funding essential public services, which are critical at this moment in time.

The PFA says a 30 percent pay cut over a 12-month period would equate to a £500m saving and has questioned whether the loss in tax on those earnings means it is the best course of action.

The statement called for "solidarity between all clubs" - and addressed the financial impact the Covid-19 pandemic was having on clubs like Cardiff City and Swansea City in the EFL.

"All Premier League players want to, and will, play their part in making significant financial contributions in these unprecedented times," said the PFA.

"All Premier League players fully appreciate their role and responsibilities in society during this current crisis. They care deeply for those who are suffering with loss, health and hardship at the moment.

"Discussions about how players can best financially contribute have been ongoing during the current crisis, and prior to yesterday’s announcement by the Premier League.

"The Premier League players want to take the lead and ensure their financial contributions will support:

Our clubs that we play for will obviously need our support, particularly if this crisis goes beyond June.

Non-playing staff at our Premier League clubs – guaranteeing they receive 100% of their wages.


The NHS - whose workers - many of whom are football fans - are doing so much for us all. They are the real heroes.
"We cannot stress enough that football is in this together. Solidarity and putting aside any self-interest is paramount."

The Premier League announced on Friday that it would be advancing £125million to EFL and National League clubs to help them cope in the short-term - and making a £20million donation to charitable causes.

And while the PFA welcomed the donations, they pleaded for greater funding to be made available to the EFL and below in the long term.

"The £20m is welcome, but we believe it could be far bigger," the PFA statement added.

"The EFL money is an advance. Importantly, it will aid cashflow in the immediate, but football needs to find a way to increase funding to the EFL and non-league clubs in the long term.

"Many clubs require an increase in funding just to survive. We believe in our football pyramid and again stress the need for solidarity between all clubs.

"Going forward, we are working together to find a solution which will be continually reviewed in order to assess the circumstance of the Covid-19 crisis.

"The players are mindful that as PAYE employees, the combined tax on their salaries is a significant contribution to funding essential public services - which are especially critical at this time. Taking a 30% salary deduction will cost the Exchequer substantial sums. This would be detrimental to our NHS and other government-funded services.

"The proposed 30% salary deduction over a 12-month period equates to over £500m in wage reductions and a loss in tax contributions of over £200m to the government. What effect does this loss of earning to the government mean for the NHS? Was this considered in the Premier League proposal and did the Health Secretary, Matt Hancock, factor this in when asking players to take a salary cut?

"We welcomed the opportunity to discuss this with the Premier League today and we are happy to continue talks.

"It is our priority to finalise the precise details of our commitment as soon as possible. However, to achieve a collective position for all Premier League players - of which there are many different financial and contractual circumstances from club-to-club - will take a bit more time.

"The PFA Charity has also agreed to make a substantial contribution to a player-led initiative once the details are finalised.

"There should be no doubting the players and captains are committed to achieving this as soon as possible. They recognise their role in wider society and what they need to do, as a group, to help and support others."
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Re: PLAYERS ATTACK PREMIER LEAGUE OVER A 30% PAY CUT

Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:03 pm

Their excuse
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Re: PLAYERS ATTACK PREMIER LEAGUE OVER A 30% PAY CUT

Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:44 pm

Dont these player care about the country they live in??? Seriously taking a pay cut will mean so much for those who are desperate for funds in and around the NHS and all the players care about is the money. Terrible.

Re: PLAYERS ATTACK PREMIER LEAGUE OVER A 30% PAY CUT

Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:07 pm

I would like to remind 'Professional Footballers' that back here on planet Earth we also make tax contributions and more importantly for them us football fans make a massive contribution towards their multi-million £ wages by buying Sky/BT subscriptions, season tickets, merchandise and stuff they benefit from having image rights.

If they can't do the right thing now and act humbly when doing it then wait for the backlash you selfish over hyped wankers.

Re: PLAYERS ATTACK PREMIER LEAGUE OVER A 30% PAY CUT

Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:23 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:I would like to remind 'Professional Footballers' that back here on planet Earth we also make tax contributions and more importantly for them us football fans make a massive contribution towards their multi-million £ wages by buying Sky/BT subscriptions, season tickets, merchandise and stuff they benefit from having image rights.

If they can't do the right thing now and act humbly when doing it then wait for the backlash you selfish over hyped wankers.



well at the moment like millions of people im not paying any tax because im not working so im on this 80% of previous earnings thing...
where as that 200 million pound is a real figure that will help the government and therefore the health service ?

haven't read anywhere in these anti footballer threads why people want the pay cut other than they are well paid...nobody seems to care where the 30% goes.. well it would benefit the club...and not benefit directly the country unless the club decides to pass it on. there is no guarantee here that clubs would then not furlough staff either . or use that saving for good causes...

Re: UPDATED:ROONEY JOINS OTHER PLAYERS IN ATTACKING A 30% WA

Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:45 pm

Updated:

Sunday 5th April 2020

ITV

Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, why pick on them?
"Suddenly the whole profession has been put on the spot with a demand for 30 per cent pay cuts across the board. Why are footballers suddenly the scapegoats?"

"Why has it been made public Rooney asked?"
“It seemed strange to me because every other decision in this process has been kept behind closed doors, but this had to be announced publicly,” he added. “Why? It feels as if it’s to shame the players – to force them into a corner where they have to pick up the bill for lost revenue. In my opinion it is now a no-win situation. Whatever way you look at it, we’re easy targets.”

'Remember, players’ careers are short so they have to make investments or have savings, with most facing retirement at 35 but — unlike a previous generation — unable to draw a pension until much later.'

The 34-year-old said he could afford to help but others in his team might not be able to do so, we have houses and families as well as everyone else."
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Re: UPDATED:ROONEY JOINS OTHER PLAYERS IN ATTACKING A 30% WA

Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:45 pm

The government here and others were very quick to call out the top footballers (and so they should) but what about the 'fat cat' bankers, top company chairmen, multi millionaire businessmen, hedge fund gamblers, top golfers and the tax dodgers who put their money in the Caymans or Panama, to name but a few. We've all got our part to play.

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:45 pm

Rooney's comments about footballers having a short career is fair enough until you realise that very many of the PL players earn more in one year than your average worker will earn in a lifetime. Plus, when they retire, they can do what the rest of us do, that is look for a proper job. Even then, they will because of their previous career be able to use their name as a tool to maximise future earnings. This is less evident the further down the leagues you go but with sound economic management there is no reason why they should suffer unduly when they give up the game.

Re: UPDATED:ROONEY JOINS OTHER PLAYERS IN ATTACKING A 30% WA

Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:59 pm

stentona wrote:The government here and others were very quick to call out the top footballers (and so they should) but what about the 'fat cat' bankers, top company chairmen, multi millionaire businessmen, hedge fund gamblers, top golfers and the tax dodgers who put their money in the Caymans or Panama, to name but a few. We've all got our part to play.


Fair enough if those bankers etc are putting staff on a furlough, but banks aren't, whereas the football clubs are because they don't have the money to pay the wages of the backroom staff. If the 30% is used to keep paying those backroom staff the government will get tax from their wages, plus not have to pay them benefits until they get their jobs back, assuming all of them will get their jobs back.Furthermore, other sectors that need to do their bit can be targeted after sorting out this problem with the footballer's pay.

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:47 pm

This is so gonna come back and bite these primadonnas in the ballocks, I salute the REAL heroes on the front line, the NHS.

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:23 pm

Why is this greedy prick even commenting? He keeps saying we! Since when has he or Derby county been premier league?

Re: UPDATED:ROONEY JOINS OTHER PLAYERS IN ATTACKING A 30% WA

Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:27 pm

stentona wrote:The government here and others were very quick to call out the top footballers (and so they should) but what about the 'fat cat' bankers, top company chairmen, multi millionaire businessmen, hedge fund gamblers, top golfers and the tax dodgers who put their money in the Caymans or Panama, to name but a few. We've all got our part to play.



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Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:30 pm

Is this little brat for f*cking real???

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:21 am

Rooney should never be allowed to speak for any other footballer because he is too stupid!!

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:35 am

You can sing their names and buy their names on your shirts. But just be in no doubt 99% of footballers and owners and big business couldn't give a fu... about you or your family. We are just cash cows, I hope football goes bust. Stay safe everyone!!

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:14 am

The money he’s been on the last 20+ years he should be able to retire. They earn a lot more than most of us football fans.

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:35 am

I doubt if Rooney actually came up with this argument on his own. I imagine a Sunday Times journalist helped him with the wording as I can’t see him putting thins article together himself.

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:49 am

Am I missing something here? The rest of the country is on fulough @ 80% of salary up to £2,500 a month. Why should footballers be any different?

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:57 am

If a business is not trading can it not put ALL its staff on furlough? Its a nuclear option for sure, but that what i think the premier league should suggest it will do.

Then players (who are not training or playing football) will get zero money from their clubs and fall into the government 80% scheme.

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:08 am

brettski wrote:Am I missing something here? The rest of the country is on fulough @ 80% of salary up to £2,500 a month. Why should footballers be any different?


The footballers are self employed so are tied by contracts.It isn't their fault that there isn't any football at the moment but It's a double edged sword and I expect record numbers to be unemployed soon especially from the championship downwards.It'll be interesting to see how many players will forgo their contracts if it saves any clubs going to the wall.

So much for players being working class hero's eh? :roll:

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:23 am

Every player above League one should offer to go to 80% or less, name and shame those that don't so that the fans can boo them when they return!

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:25 am

Bluebina wrote:Every player above League one should offer to go to 80% or less by donating the 20% to their community, name and shame those that don't so that the fans can boo them when they return!

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:59 am

As with eye watering salaries footballers pay eye watering taxes too,people forget that.
Go after google amazon coffee companies etc who pay bugger all.

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:09 pm

Well I've had a 66% paycut Wayne. Fancy that instead??

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:32 pm

How terrible, they have to make investments to survive! :oops:

The whole game needs a wage cap, we've been saying it for years. Stop milking the fans you ungrateful pricks.

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:50 pm

Some players really don't get it do they! It will be park/welsh league football for me from now on!

Neil Etheridge Mrs has been banging on about how we all have to do our bit etc.. and defending this stance. If she cannot understand that there are people working at our club that won't earn in a year what her future husband earns in a week, she needs to get back to the real world!

Its the same with the likes of Richard Branson! Requesting a government bail out for Virgin when he is worth 4billion! 4 BILLION! And he wants the TAX payer to help him out! I read somewhere that if he were to pay alll his staff at virgin for the next 6 months it would be like giving 73pence out of £20!

The amount of friends and family I know who are struggling to get money together at the moment, who look like they'll be out of work when this blows over, that their busniess is on the verge of going under despite the governemtn help!

This is not about having a go at footballers because of the money they earn, it's about the club screwing over the little man when the players and management, who earn obscene amount of money, could take a little cut to help the little man out.

Re: Wayne Rooney asks why should they take a 30% wage cut, w

Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:39 pm

ROONEY why are you worried. It said top premier footballers you Scouse fat boy.
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