Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:49 pm
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Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:12 pm
Forever Blue wrote:The Labour members finally chose a good leader .
Anyone else on the list and they would never get a chance of getting back in.
Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:19 pm
Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:21 pm
Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:40 pm
Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:35 am
Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:54 am
Forever Blue wrote:The Labour members finally chose a good leader .
Anyone else on the list and they would never get a chance of getting back in.
Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:03 am
castleblue wrote:In my opinion Sir Keir Starmer was the best of a poor lot, Rebecca Long-Bailey made the final 3 and still got 25% of the votes, but there is no getting away from the fact that Keir Starmer is totally pro-european, never accepted the result of the referendum, always supported a 2nd referendum and was the architect of Labours disastrous policy during the last General Election campaign.
No doubt he is a very decent and honourable man but I bet he has Ed Davey on speed dial and has been already talking about pro european alliances in Parliament with a single aim, returning the UK to the EU.
I don't think Boris Johnson will be losing much sleep over his victory.
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Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:21 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:castleblue wrote:In my opinion Sir Keir Starmer was the best of a poor lot, Rebecca Long-Bailey made the final 3 and still got 25% of the votes, but there is no getting away from the fact that Keir Starmer is totally pro-european, never accepted the result of the referendum, always supported a 2nd referendum and was the architect of Labours disastrous policy during the last General Election campaign.
No doubt he is a very decent and honourable man but I bet he has Ed Davey on speed dial and has been already talking about pro european alliances in Parliament with a single aim, returning the UK to the EU.
I don't think Boris Johnson will be losing much sleep over his victory.
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I agree he totally blotted his copybook with his disastrous election policy on BREXIT.
However, like most politicians he will have to be pragmatic. Labour have no chance of regaining power if they don't appeal again to the 'red wall' seats they lost to the Tories due their pro-European stance.
If he is as clever as he thinks he is BREXIT will never be an issue for Labour and he will quietly accept the 2016 referendum and the implication of the General Election in 2019.
If he doesn't then Labour will lose the next election and in 5 years time there will be another leadership contest.
Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:32 am
Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:38 am
llan bluebird wrote:Labour have simply jumped two decades from the 70's to the 90's.
Until proved otherwise i consider him to be a metropolitan middle class globalist without a finger on the pulse of the nation.
This pandemic has proved that the offshoring of the last 30 years have left the west but especially the uber globalist UK (all parties) very dependant on foreign cooperation. As soon as it got tasty all countries pulled up the drawbridges and said "us first f**k everyone else"
The US redirected a 3M shipment of masks from China destined for Germany. Germany and France stopped exporting medical equipment even to EU countries.
Boris is a clown, but he is a clown with a better feel for the country than Starmer. (How bad is that?)
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:11 am
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:16 am
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:53 am
Forever Blue wrote:The Labour members finally chose a good leader .
Anyone else on the list and they would never get a chance of getting back in.
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:54 am
castleblue wrote:In my opinion Sir Keir Starmer was the best of a poor lot, Rebecca Long-Bailey made the final 3 and still got 25% of the votes, but there is no getting away from the fact that Keir Starmer is totally pro-european, never accepted the result of the referendum, always supported a 2nd referendum and was the architect of Labours disastrous policy during the last General Election campaign.
No doubt he is a very decent and honourable man but I bet he has Ed Davey on speed dial and has been already talking about pro european alliances in Parliament with a single aim, returning the UK to the EU.
I don't think Boris Johnson will be losing much sleep over his victory.
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Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:18 pm
Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:The Labour members finally chose a good leader .
Anyone else on the list and they would never get a chance of getting back in.
Annis, it seems the Labour Party have finally seen sense...
Now they have an opportunity to pull together and give the broader electorate a real choice
I think he was the one Labour candidate that Boris and the Tory Troupe will respect. I see a concerted attempt to tone down the personalities moving forward (Gove has already said positive things) and that can only be good for 'proper' politics to occur in the UK
Thumbs up from me...but time alone will be the judge of that!
Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:27 pm
Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:40 pm
Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:13 pm
Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:13 pm
Sven wrote:I'm not a particular follower of any single political party; I prefer instead to judge individuals by their actions/deeds
However, after what I consider to the the 'dead' years of Corbyn and the pushing of his disciple, Rebecca Long-Bailey, I find it refreshing that the vast majority of the Labour Party have united behind a sensible, pragmatic leadership candidate in Sir Keir Starmer
Not a career politician, Sir Keir made his name as a lawyer and specialised in human rights before becoming Director of Public prosecutions (DPP)
His entry into politics in 2015 saw a fast rise to the top of his Party and he earned the respect of members from both sides of the House with his non-partisan views and wish to engage with people on all sides who could 'make a difference and take this country forward'
Time will tell but I see a potential return of the Labour Party under his stewardship
Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:56 pm
MOZZER1 wrote:day 2 into the job and I see the press/twitter are linking him to saville Saville helping him evade justice so they say
looks like the press have found someone else to destroy before they he's even began
Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:04 pm
rumpo kid wrote:Congrats Sir Kier.. but I’m not so sure. He masterminded the recent disastrous election campaign, and on Andrew Neil recently he wilted.
Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:20 pm
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