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“ Stan Collymore

Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:13 am

Not a fan of his but he is right :thumbright:

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Re: “ Stan Collymore

Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:17 am

Spot On :thumbup:

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:26 am

100% correct :cry: :bluebird:

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:32 am

How right is he. Our own Hero, Sol Bamber was on the telly the other day saying that players should be happily take a pay cut.

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:06 am

Crazy Monopoly money to us mere mortals BUT any footie star unable to survive a few months on suggested £6k a week and redirect rest of their wages needs a reality check

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:45 pm

What more can you say.

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:37 am

So not one City player has taken a pay cut yet? f*cking disgusting. Can’t see how they can be keep on full wages.

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:07 pm

I do agree but it’s not just footballers. There are 2.5 million millionaires in the UK what are they doing?

Not fair to single out footballers they are a small proportion.

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:35 pm

Never a truer statement made...

Well said, Stan Collymore! :clap: :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:08 pm

piledriver64 wrote:I do agree but it’s not just footballers. There are 2.5 million millionaires in the UK what are they doing?

Not fair to single out footballers they are a small proportion.



easy target

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:53 pm

dogfound wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:I do agree but it’s not just footballers. There are 2.5 million millionaires in the UK what are they doing?

Not fair to single out footballers they are a small proportion.



easy target


It's not because they are a a easy target . It's because they are millionaires blatently taking thousands even hundreds of thousands of pounds per week out of there club whilst normal staff who have nothing either have there pay cut or are released from jobs with no savings whatsoever.

It's disgusting and will be remembered once this is over by many

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:56 pm

Liverpool have just 'Furloughed' their non playing staff..

That's a disgrace isn't it or am I being harsh?

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:58 pm

thomasblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:I do agree but it’s not just footballers. There are 2.5 million millionaires in the UK what are they doing?

Not fair to single out footballers they are a small proportion.



easy target


It's not because they are a a easy target . It's because they are millionaires blatently taking thousands even hundreds of thousands of pounds per week out of there club whilst normal staff who have nothing either have there pay cut or are released from jobs with no savings whatsoever.

It's disgusting and will be remembered once this is over by many


To an extent I agree. But if you call out one group of millionaires you have to call them all out ! Josh Murphy is delivering groceries to the vulnerable, what's Mike Ashley or the owner of Wetherspoons doing ?

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:58 pm

RV Casual wrote:Liverpool have just 'Furloughed' their non playing staff..

That's a disgrace isn't it or am I being harsh?


Its shocking
They have 40 professional players.
If they took 2k a month out of each of there 100k a WEEK wages they could keep 40 staff on full time pay and in a job. Without those full time employees those players dont have a job to go to and they should be supporting them.

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:00 pm

thomasblue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Liverpool have just 'Furloughed' their non playing staff..

That's a disgrace isn't it or am I being harsh?


Its shocking
They have 40 professional players.
If they took 2k a month out of each of there 100k a WEEK wages they could keep 40 staff on full time pay and in a job. Without those full time employees those players dont have a job to go to and they should be supporting them.


How are they being allowed to only do it to certain staff I don't understand, should be all or nothing surely?

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:01 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:I do agree but it’s not just footballers. There are 2.5 million millionaires in the UK what are they doing?

Not fair to single out footballers they are a small proportion.



easy target


It's not because they are a a easy target . It's because they are millionaires blatently taking thousands even hundreds of thousands of pounds per week out of there club whilst normal staff who have nothing either have there pay cut or are released from jobs with no savings whatsoever.

It's disgusting and will be remembered once this is over by many


To an extent I agree. But if you call out one group of millionaires you have to call them all out ! Josh Murphy is delivering groceries to the vulnerable, what's Mike Ashley or the owner of Wetherspoons doing ?


Mike ashley is a totally different subject . He has 30 thousand employees wages to pay . Most will have to be furloughed otherwise they wont have a job to go back to as he will go bust.
Footballers are different . They dont have to pay people wages. They are taking huge amounts from clubs when everybody else is struggling

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:05 pm

RV Casual wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Liverpool have just 'Furloughed' their non playing staff..

That's a disgrace isn't it or am I being harsh?


Its shocking
They have 40 professional players.
If they took 2k a month out of each of there 100k a WEEK wages they could keep 40 staff on full time pay and in a job. Without those full time employees those players dont have a job to go to and they should be supporting them.


How are they being allowed to only do it to certain staff I don't understand, should be all or nothing surely?


I think there is a cap of £2500 to furlough someone. I cant see any players taking that a month even if it is to help the rest of the country fight against this virus.

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:35 pm

There are man big businesses not taking pay cuts etc

I think football is being harshly singled out I'm honest. Clubs generally run above their income and now they have no income just like most businesses.

Clubs have to protect their assets which are usually the players and they cant just chop and change contacts easily with voiding a contract and potentially losing a huge asset.

That's not to say this isn't being looked at behind the scenes buts its just not as easy. From what I've read premier league players are more concerned about taking a pay cut and it just going back to the club and instead want it to go to key areas like nhs and key works etc.

The premier league have already pledged a minimum of 20m I believe.

I thought it was a poor comment from Hancock, there are many fat cats earning millions and millions who havent done anything as well.

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:51 pm

thomasblue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:I do agree but it’s not just footballers. There are 2.5 million millionaires in the UK what are they doing?

Not fair to single out footballers they are a small proportion.



easy target


It's not because they are a a easy target . It's because they are millionaires blatently taking thousands even hundreds of thousands of pounds per week out of there club whilst normal staff who have nothing either have there pay cut or are released from jobs with no savings whatsoever.

It's disgusting and will be remembered once this is over by many


To an extent I agree. But if you call out one group of millionaires you have to call them all out ! Josh Murphy is delivering groceries to the vulnerable, what's Mike Ashley or the owner of Wetherspoons doing ?


Mike ashley is a totally different subject . He has 30 thousand employees wages to pay . Most will have to be furloughed otherwise they wont have a job to go back to as he will go bust.
Footballers are different . They dont have to pay people wages. They are taking huge amounts from clubs when everybody else is struggling



no mike Ashley is not different...stop cherry picking

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:02 pm

dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:I do agree but it’s not just footballers. There are 2.5 million millionaires in the UK what are they doing?

Not fair to single out footballers they are a small proportion.



easy target


It's not because they are a a easy target . It's because they are millionaires blatently taking thousands even hundreds of thousands of pounds per week out of there club whilst normal staff who have nothing either have there pay cut or are released from jobs with no savings whatsoever.

It's disgusting and will be remembered once this is over by many


To an extent I agree. But if you call out one group of millionaires you have to call them all out ! Josh Murphy is delivering groceries to the vulnerable, what's Mike Ashley or the owner of Wetherspoons doing ?


Mike ashley is a totally different subject . He has 30 thousand employees wages to pay . Most will have to be furloughed otherwise they wont have a job to go back to as he will go bust.
Footballers are different . They dont have to pay people wages. They are taking huge amounts from clubs when everybody else is struggling



no mike Ashley is not different...stop cherry picking


Mike Ashley is a man who is trying to support over 30000 employees and wages .
Name me one footballer who is doing that ?
Footballers are taking wages , Ashley is paying wages . It's hardly the same thing is it.

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:09 pm

thomasblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:I do agree but it’s not just footballers. There are 2.5 million millionaires in the UK what are they doing?

Not fair to single out footballers they are a small proportion.



easy target


It's not because they are a a easy target . It's because they are millionaires blatently taking thousands even hundreds of thousands of pounds per week out of there club whilst normal staff who have nothing either have there pay cut or are released from jobs with no savings whatsoever.

It's disgusting and will be remembered once this is over by many


To an extent I agree. But if you call out one group of millionaires you have to call them all out ! Josh Murphy is delivering groceries to the vulnerable, what's Mike Ashley or the owner of Wetherspoons doing ?


Mike ashley is a totally different subject . He has 30 thousand employees wages to pay . Most will have to be furloughed otherwise they wont have a job to go back to as he will go bust.
Footballers are different . They dont have to pay people wages. They are taking huge amounts from clubs when everybody else is struggling



no mike Ashley is not different...stop cherry picking


Mike Ashley is a man who is trying to support over 30000 employees and wages .
Name me one footballer who is doing that ?
Footballers are taking wages , Ashley is paying wages . It's hardly the same thing is it.



and he is not taking a wage ?
I 100% agree that Ashley is singled out and gets slaughtered often unfairly
but you've done exactly the same thing...all this fingerpointing is awful..

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:16 pm

dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:I do agree but it’s not just footballers. There are 2.5 million millionaires in the UK what are they doing?

Not fair to single out footballers they are a small proportion.



easy target


It's not because they are a a easy target . It's because they are millionaires blatently taking thousands even hundreds of thousands of pounds per week out of there club whilst normal staff who have nothing either have there pay cut or are released from jobs with no savings whatsoever.

It's disgusting and will be remembered once this is over by many


To an extent I agree. But if you call out one group of millionaires you have to call them all out ! Josh Murphy is delivering groceries to the vulnerable, what's Mike Ashley or the owner of Wetherspoons doing ?


Mike ashley is a totally different subject . He has 30 thousand employees wages to pay . Most will have to be furloughed otherwise they wont have a job to go back to as he will go bust.
Footballers are different . They dont have to pay people wages. They are taking huge amounts from clubs when everybody else is struggling



no mike Ashley is not different...stop cherry picking


Mike Ashley is a man who is trying to support over 30000 employees and wages .
Name me one footballer who is doing that ?
Footballers are taking wages , Ashley is paying wages . It's hardly the same thing is it.



and he is not taking a wage ?
I 100% agree that Ashley is singled out and gets slaughtered often unfairly
but you've done exactly the same thing...all this fingerpointing is awful..


Mike Ashley will lose enough money over this don't worry. He is doing a fine job and has actually made all directors of his companies take a 40% pay cut so they can keep all staff on full wages for April.
A lot more than Branson or the others are doing as they are asking the government for money even though they are billionaires

What have footballers done. The wages they earn are obscene and at the moment nearly all are sitting watching low paid colleagues at there clubs being laid off or furloughed whilst they sit pretty on there contract raking in thousands from clubs who are staring down bankruptcy.
How can you even defend me baffles me it's disgusting. And I agree it's not only them but this discussion is about them not other millionaires

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:36 pm

thomasblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:I do agree but it’s not just footballers. There are 2.5 million millionaires in the UK what are they doing?

Not fair to single out footballers they are a small proportion.



easy target


It's not because they are a a easy target . It's because they are millionaires blatently taking thousands even hundreds of thousands of pounds per week out of there club whilst normal staff who have nothing either have there pay cut or are released from jobs with no savings whatsoever.

It's disgusting and will be remembered once this is over by many


To an extent I agree. But if you call out one group of millionaires you have to call them all out ! Josh Murphy is delivering groceries to the vulnerable, what's Mike Ashley or the owner of Wetherspoons doing ?


Mike ashley is a totally different subject . He has 30 thousand employees wages to pay . Most will have to be furloughed otherwise they wont have a job to go back to as he will go bust.
Footballers are different . They dont have to pay people wages. They are taking huge amounts from clubs when everybody else is struggling



no mike Ashley is not different...stop cherry picking


Mike Ashley is a man who is trying to support over 30000 employees and wages .
Name me one footballer who is doing that ?
Footballers are taking wages , Ashley is paying wages . It's hardly the same thing is it.



and he is not taking a wage ?
I 100% agree that Ashley is singled out and gets slaughtered often unfairly
but you've done exactly the same thing...all this fingerpointing is awful..


Mike Ashley will lose enough money over this don't worry. He is doing a fine job and has actually made all directors of his companies take a 40% pay cut so they can keep all staff on full wages for April.
A lot more than Branson or the others are doing as they are asking the government for money even though they are billionaires

What have footballers done. The wages they earn are obscene and at the moment nearly all are sitting watching low paid colleagues at there clubs being laid off or furloughed whilst they sit pretty on there contract raking in thousands from clubs who are staring down bankruptcy.
How can you even defend me baffles me it's disgusting. And I agree it's not only them but this discussion is about them not other millionaires



whats disgusting and very distasteful is the amount of singling certain groups out for criticism.. doing this all while defending someone who like minded people to yourself have singled out as another easy target …
footballers will undoubtedly accept whatever reductions the PFA advise..
as for those still in full time employment making those furloughed up to full pay.. is this whats happened nationwide across all businesses... no its not... all businesses including football clubs and MA have had to do whats best for them. and tbh part of whats best for them is trying to ensure best they can be in a position to continue employing these people at all when the crisis is over...there will be many on 80% now who wont be lucky enough to have work when we return to normality..

Re: “ Stan Collymore

Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:34 pm

dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:I do agree but it’s not just footballers. There are 2.5 million millionaires in the UK what are they doing?

Not fair to single out footballers they are a small proportion.



easy target


It's not because they are a a easy target . It's because they are millionaires blatently taking thousands even hundreds of thousands of pounds per week out of there club whilst normal staff who have nothing either have there pay cut or are released from jobs with no savings whatsoever.

It's disgusting and will be remembered once this is over by many


To an extent I agree. But if you call out one group of millionaires you have to call them all out ! Josh Murphy is delivering groceries to the vulnerable, what's Mike Ashley or the owner of Wetherspoons doing ?


Mike ashley is a totally different subject . He has 30 thousand employees wages to pay . Most will have to be furloughed otherwise they wont have a job to go back to as he will go bust.
Footballers are different . They dont have to pay people wages. They are taking huge amounts from clubs when everybody else is struggling



no mike Ashley is not different...stop cherry picking


Mike Ashley is a man who is trying to support over 30000 employees and wages .
Name me one footballer who is doing that ?
Footballers are taking wages , Ashley is paying wages . It's hardly the same thing is it.



and he is not taking a wage ?
I 100% agree that Ashley is singled out and gets slaughtered often unfairly
but you've done exactly the same thing...all this fingerpointing is awful..


Mike Ashley will lose enough money over this don't worry. He is doing a fine job and has actually made all directors of his companies take a 40% pay cut so they can keep all staff on full wages for April.
A lot more than Branson or the others are doing as they are asking the government for money even though they are billionaires

What have footballers done. The wages they earn are obscene and at the moment nearly all are sitting watching low paid colleagues at there clubs being laid off or furloughed whilst they sit pretty on there contract raking in thousands from clubs who are staring down bankruptcy.
How can you even defend me baffles me it's disgusting. And I agree it's not only them but this discussion is about them not other millionaires



whats disgusting and very distasteful is the amount of singling certain groups out for criticism.. doing this all while defending someone who like minded people to yourself have singled out as another easy target …
footballers will undoubtedly accept whatever reductions the PFA advise..
as for those still in full time employment making those furloughed up to full pay.. is this whats happened nationwide across all businesses... no its not... all businesses including football clubs and MA have had to do whats best for them. and tbh part of whats best for them is trying to ensure best they can be in a position to continue employing these people at all when the crisis is over...there will be many on 80% now who wont be lucky enough to have work when we return to normality..


But you think it is acceptable to single out lower paid employees and reduce there wages or lay them off but leave the high earners who do not need the money to be able to feed there family on a day to day basis being paid in full ?

Footballers do not need to follow the PFA they can act for themselves they are not sheep. Some bigger names have done it the vast majority have done nothing at all.



I'm not singling out anybody either. I have this opinion on a few different groups but this thread was made about footballers so I am commenting on them.