Interesting study done by Oxford University, they have done

Interesting study done by Oxford University, they have done their model on Coronavirus and believe their theory suggests that half of the UK population have had the virus, which if true is massive and encouraging.

However, the imperial college of London, which is the theoretical model the UK government are going with, suggests that only a small percentage of the UK population has had it. I hope the boffins at Oxford Uni are correct

Interesting study done by Oxford University, they have done their model on Coronavirus and believe their theory suggests that half of the UK population have had the virus, which if true is massive and encouraging.

However, the imperial college of London, which is the theoretical model the UK government are going with, suggests that only a small percentage of the UK population has had it. I hope the boffins at Oxford Uni are correct

God yes. That would be great news.
I’d even be pleased with a figure in between. 30 million ?

I've said it all along. So many people have already had it, so mild they probably didn't even realise.

Wouldn't go as far as saying half the population, but meet in the middle and I'll take that.

I hope that’s right also. But what I don’t get is why is it now only killing people? First 30 million and nhs don’t notice but next 15,000 get it and suddenly 759 sadly pass away.

I think everyone would love that to be true but they've now tested over 100k in hospital with the symptoms and 90% didn't have the disease. Clearly we know people who think they are passing though this without little effect but I doubt the general population differs significantly from a sample of 100 k. I wish the OU hypothesis was right, it would be the beginning of the end.

Postby popeye21 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:45 pm

Also of interest:-

Posted by TheFarEnd on the LLOY bb yesterday :-

Status of COVID-19
Apologies if posted before, but this maybe relevant to the discussion.

As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.

The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.

The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-conseq ... eases-hcid

Posted by BoomerBower on the LLOY bb yesterday :-

https://amp.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd ... ssion=true

New model from Oxford university suggest Corona had already infected half of UK and it's as fatal as a cold. Only 1 in 1000 need hospitalisation. Mortality probably 0.05%.

Posted by BoomerBower on the LLOY bb yesterday :-

I'd hate to see anyone vulnerable dying next year when we have no money to fund health care. And 10s thousand are dying, plus a mental health crisis created through isolating the most vulnerable. Think man think! I thought you weren't responding to me. Listen to some sense rather than your emotional dogma. You aren't a professor nor do you have any publications. I'm sure you know more than him though lol, or think you do. https://youtu.be/JBB9bA-gXL4

A very interesting video.

Annis I posted this earlier. There are other very interesting artilces listed and the whole approach by Taiwan is worth reading about.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=213789

I think everyone would love that to be true but they've now tested over 100k in hospital with the symptoms and 90% didn't have the disease. Clearly we know people who think they are passing though this without little effect but I doubt the general population differs significantly from a sample of 100 k. I wish the OU hypothesis was right, it would be the beginning of the end.

the tests to show whether you have previously had corona virus are being tested now...

Why has Germany has had very low levels of Coronavirus deaths compared to Wuhan,Italy and Spain?

53,340 Germans had tested positive for the coronavirus as of March 28, with 397 deaths. That gives a death rate of 0.74%. Spain's rate is 7.6% and Italy's is 10.2%.

This is because Germany is testing as many as 120,000 people a week, identifying many milder cases that don't end in death.
Germany is also in an early stage of its outbreak, has excellent intensive care facilities, a young average age of infection, and a severe lockdown in place.

https://www.businessinsider.com/germany ... ?r=US&IR=T

Northern Italy has very high levels of air pollution from industrial sources, similar to Wuhan.

“For Italy, especially the northern part of Italy, the air pollution comes from emissions of the industry and transport. In the winter season, the weather conditions are very unfavorable due to temperature inversion that prevents the air pollution from dispersing in the higher layers of the atmosphere.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/emanuelaba ... 71c3358fde

Spain is also seeing a higher level of mortality with COVID-19, which could be explained by the higher levels of air pollution.

15 million Spaniards are breathing air the EU considers polluted
https://english.elpais.com/elpais/2018/ ... 14634.html

The posts below from lse highlight the importance of Zinc in the diet regarding the Coronavirus.

Posted by Theosus on the LLOY bb :-

John46
Nivqueen is not an antibiotic its a quinine analogue medication.
If you look up chloroquinine its now being trailed against Covid -19. In nut shell it allows zinc to cross over the lipid membrane of the RNA virus and stop it replicating. This guy explains it better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CF_W0XX_Kw

jl5006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CF_W0XX_Kw

Zinc is thought to stop RNA viruses from replicating. In order to get into the cell it needs something like chloroquinine. The video explains it better. It looks an option at least and it won't need to go through extensive drug trials because its already I believe a licence.
In winter I always up my zinc and vit d.

jl5006

This is a bit more info on Zinc..https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/263176
There is a book by the American pharmacist Suzy Cohen which is very useful ( drug Muggers ).. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Drug-Muggers-S ... 1605294160
People don't realise that a lot of prescribed medication can strip out minerals like zinc...
Its a very important mineral for men...

I hope that’s right also. But what I don’t get is why is it now only killing people? First 30 million and nhs don’t notice but next 15,000 get it and suddenly 759 sadly pass away.

I think its always been killing people but the doctors had until recently probably thought it was flu which also kills thousands every year.I went to the doctors in Jan with all the symptoms but the instruction was paracetamol and bed rest which eventually worked and I haven't missed my flu jab for the last 20yrs.II'm not gonna put it to the test though and as a high risk person I'm remaining indoors.