Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:17 am
dogfound wrote:
yes...what seems to be passing everyone by is the fact that corona virus itself is being prioritised over pretty much all other illnesses and procedures... our hospitals are empty of people that should be in hospital in preparation for the epidemic.. and people are 100% going to die because what illness they have is being trumped...
as an example of volume there are 165,000 cancer deaths every year in the UK, that's 450 a day..yet 50% of those diagnosed with cancer survive through treatment so an equal number who would once have died no longer do....god only knows how many possible diagnosis, treatments, procedures will be missed/not happen...
keeping this virus manageable and keeping things like above in place is one hell of a balancing act..
Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:13 am
Xenonbluebird wrote:Some positive news here with regards to ventilators: https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-03- ... -patients/
Worth a read.
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:04 pm
dogfound wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Bluebina wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Italy for the 4th day in a row deaths and catching the virus have dropped
But it’s still horrendous
Spain is also actually falling But again it is horrendous
BUT THIS HAS ONLY COME DOWN BY TOTAL LOCKDOWNS & ZERO TOLERANCE BY THE AUTHORITIES
Not continually playing happy families and friends going for walks and having their ice creams Sadly some of you will regret this big time .
I was chatting to a Nurse, she is very calm normally but pretty worried about the next three weeks, they have been deep in discussion on ethics, and who will be given the ventilator!
Mate I’m not sure a nurse should have made that info public in a discussion with you.
Not trying to be an arse mate just thinking if I was 35 with health problems - which I’m not - it would be upsetting to hear this info...,particularly if they’ve been following all government safety advice.
isn't this what doctors/ paramedics have always done in these circumstances
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:10 pm
skidemin wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:dogfound wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:dogfound wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Bluebina wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Italy for the 4th day in a row deaths and catching the virus have dropped
But it’s still horrendous
Spain is also actually falling But again it is horrendous
BUT THIS HAS ONLY COME DOWN BY TOTAL LOCKDOWNS & ZERO TOLERANCE BY THE AUTHORITIES
Not continually playing happy families and friends going for walks and having their ice creams Sadly some of you will regret this big time .
I was chatting to a Nurse, she is very calm normally but pretty worried about the next three weeks, they have been deep in discussion on ethics, and who will be given the ventilator!
Mate I’m not sure a nurse should have made that info public in a discussion with you.
Not trying to be an arse mate just thinking if I was 35 with health problems - which I’m not - it would be upsetting to hear this info...,particularly if they’ve been following all government safety advice.
isn't this what doctors/ paramedics have always done in these circumstances
They certainly do and I’m positive that some difficult decisions may well be made during this awful time.
I was just making the point that the talk of nurses discussing the potential decisions to be made (saving a fit 50 year old as opposed to a 35 year old with medical problems) shouldn’t be discussed / mentioned on this forum as it could be potentially upsetting or worrying to its users.
My opinion, that’s all
yes...what seems to be passing everyone by is the fact that corona virus itself is being prioritised over pretty much all other illnesses and procedures... our hospitals are empty of people that should be in hospital in preparation for the epidemic.. and people are 100% going to die because what illness they have is being trumped...
as an example of volume there are 165,000 cancer deaths every year in the UK, that's 450 a day..yet 50% of those diagnosed with cancer survive through treatment so an equal number who would once have died no longer do....god only knows how many possible diagnosis, treatments, procedures will be missed/not happen...
keeping this virus manageable and keeping things like above in place is one hell of a balancing act..
It certainly is.
Very sobering thoughts there.
yes, and its not even the biggest killer, heart disease is..
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:17 pm
Xenonbluebird wrote:Some positive news here with regards to ventilators: https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-03- ... -patients/
Worth a read.
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:21 pm