Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:02 pm
Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:31 pm
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:06 am
Sven wrote:This is all very true; sadly, the better news doesn't suit the negative, scaremongering media
Have to say that the people in these parts seem to (finally) be heeding the advice and staying at home for the majority of the time
As one of those 'jey workers', I travel the short distance to my place of work each morning and I have to say the roads are quieter, not so many people walking around, shops quieter and no more congregation of groups (youngsters or otherwise)
Hopefully, the actions of the majority will see this horrid time pass more quickly and we can return to some kind of normal sooner rather than later
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:24 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Sven wrote:This is all very true; sadly, the better news doesn't suit the negative, scaremongering media
Have to say that the people in these parts seem to (finally) be heeding the advice and staying at home for the majority of the time
As one of those 'jey workers', I travel the short distance to my place of work each morning and I have to say the roads are quieter, not so many people walking around, shops quieter and no more congregation of groups (youngsters or otherwise)
Hopefully, the actions of the majority will see this horrid time pass more quickly and we can return to some kind of normal sooner rather than later
Agree mate.
My mate said earlier to me ‘assuming the fixtures carry on, can you even begin to imagine what the atmosphere for the Leeds game will be like?’
Not priority atm obviously but it did make me think.
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:43 am
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:21 am
Pennydarrenblue wrote:I’m confused as 468000 have had the bug but only 114000 recovered. What about the other 350000? Are the numbers fiddled and they died or is it the 350000 are still on going cases?
Just I thought/hoped a lot more would have survived.
Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:26 am
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:01 am
Fijiblue wrote:31%*
Correction to above outside China death rate.
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:09 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Fijiblue wrote:31%*
Correction to above outside China death rate.
Truth is all these figures are wildly inaccurate. Would you trust any figures coming from places like China or Iran??
The number of people who have had the virus could be 10 maybe 20 times higher?? About 3 weeks ago I myself had a cough and felt ill and drained for a few days but felt fine since. Was that the virus?? Probably not but without being tested I will never know!!
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:57 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Fijiblue wrote:31%*
Correction to above outside China death rate.
Truth is all these figures are wildly inaccurate. Would you trust any figures coming from places like China or Iran??
The number of people who have had the virus could be 10 maybe 20 times higher?? About 3 weeks ago I myself had a cough and felt ill and drained for a few days but felt fine since. Was that the virus?? Probably not but without being tested I will never know!!
Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:43 am
Fijiblue wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Fijiblue wrote:31%*
Correction to above outside China death rate.
Truth is all these figures are wildly inaccurate. Would you trust any figures coming from places like China or Iran??
The number of people who have had the virus could be 10 maybe 20 times higher?? About 3 weeks ago I myself had a cough and felt ill and drained for a few days but felt fine since. Was that the virus?? Probably not but without being tested I will never know!!
Most of those figures are accurate. One country was off by 1 in their official reporting and they had to clarify.
Maybe you mean they aren’t representing the full picture? As you are obviously correct in the fact that many people have the virus that we don’t know about, or have indeed had it without knowing. That’s without doubt true.
But for the cases we DO know about, this is the rate.
I do agree however that figures from the likes of China are not reliable, they recently threw out US journalists from the country as some were reporting it was far worse than being reported. China started this so they are obviously less forthcoming with their true figures, especially when their economy was crashing quicker than everyone else.
Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:51 am
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:17 am
Bluebina wrote:Fijiblue wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Fijiblue wrote:31%*
Correction to above outside China death rate.
Truth is all these figures are wildly inaccurate. Would you trust any figures coming from places like China or Iran??
The number of people who have had the virus could be 10 maybe 20 times higher?? About 3 weeks ago I myself had a cough and felt ill and drained for a few days but felt fine since. Was that the virus?? Probably not but without being tested I will never know!!
Most of those figures are accurate. One country was off by 1 in their official reporting and they had to clarify.
Maybe you mean they aren’t representing the full picture? As you are obviously correct in the fact that many people have the virus that we don’t know about, or have indeed had it without knowing. That’s without doubt true.
But for the cases we DO know about, this is the rate.
I do agree however that figures from the likes of China are not reliable, they recently threw out US journalists from the country as some were reporting it was far worse than being reported. China started this so they are obviously less forthcoming with their true figures, especially when their economy was crashing quicker than everyone else.
I hope we will find that the vast majority of people get the virus with no issues, the figures you quoted are the small percentage that has noticeable reactions, of those a percentage will be fatal.
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:08 pm
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:27 pm
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Fijiblue wrote:31%*
Correction to above outside China death rate.
Truth is all these figures are wildly inaccurate. Would you trust any figures coming from places like China or Iran??
The number of people who have had the virus could be 10 maybe 20 times higher?? About 3 weeks ago I myself had a cough and felt ill and drained for a few days but felt fine since. Was that the virus?? Probably not but without being tested I will never know!!
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:30 pm
dogfound wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Fijiblue wrote:31%*
Correction to above outside China death rate.
Truth is all these figures are wildly inaccurate. Would you trust any figures coming from places like China or Iran??
The number of people who have had the virus could be 10 maybe 20 times higher?? About 3 weeks ago I myself had a cough and felt ill and drained for a few days but felt fine since. Was that the virus?? Probably not but without being tested I will never know!!
confirmed cases...deaths...recoveries are all accurate ...how many cases not confirmed is anyones guess..
but deaths v recoveries is no method of calculating this percentage. ...I think the scaremonger knows that too...
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:08 am
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:37 am
Fijiblue wrote:dogfound wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Fijiblue wrote:31%*
Correction to above outside China death rate.
Truth is all these figures are wildly inaccurate. Would you trust any figures coming from places like China or Iran??
The number of people who have had the virus could be 10 maybe 20 times higher?? About 3 weeks ago I myself had a cough and felt ill and drained for a few days but felt fine since. Was that the virus?? Probably not but without being tested I will never know!!
confirmed cases...deaths...recoveries are all accurate ...how many cases not confirmed is anyones guess..
but deaths v recoveries is no method of calculating this percentage. ...I think the scaremonger knows that too...
Of course you do deaths vs recoveries. You cannot count a death vs all cases as most of those cases have not yet had an outcome. You also can’t do deaths vs a guess of how many may have it but not tested as that will be wrong before you start.
This is for confirmed cases only. Anything else would be a prediction and a guess based on nothing.
Happy to look at a better method than taking every single person we know to have it, and arriving at a figure of how many survive and how many die.
Of course there is a caveat that the actual figure may well be lower due to others having it and not reporting it who have recovered, I have said that many times. But we don’t know what that figure is. This is the figure for confirmed cases globally.
The death rate is readily available on every statistical website; it’s not my method, not me scaremongering - it is the method and it’s using deaths vs recoveries which is of course the best stats there is for that.
Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:44 am
dogfound wrote:Fijiblue wrote:dogfound wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:Fijiblue wrote:31%*
Correction to above outside China death rate.
Truth is all these figures are wildly inaccurate. Would you trust any figures coming from places like China or Iran??
The number of people who have had the virus could be 10 maybe 20 times higher?? About 3 weeks ago I myself had a cough and felt ill and drained for a few days but felt fine since. Was that the virus?? Probably not but without being tested I will never know!!
confirmed cases...deaths...recoveries are all accurate ...how many cases not confirmed is anyones guess..
but deaths v recoveries is no method of calculating this percentage. ...I think the scaremonger knows that too...
Of course you do deaths vs recoveries. You cannot count a death vs all cases as most of those cases have not yet had an outcome. You also can’t do deaths vs a guess of how many may have it but not tested as that will be wrong before you start.
This is for confirmed cases only. Anything else would be a prediction and a guess based on nothing.
Happy to look at a better method than taking every single person we know to have it, and arriving at a figure of how many survive and how many die.
Of course there is a caveat that the actual figure may well be lower due to others having it and not reporting it who have recovered, I have said that many times. But we don’t know what that figure is. This is the figure for confirmed cases globally.
The death rate is readily available on every statistical website; it’s not my method, not me scaremongering - it is the method and it’s using deaths vs recoveries which is of course the best stats there is for that.
ill humour you, but im pretty sure you know and your deliberately scaremongering....
you and I are the first people to get CV.. the nxt day I die and you do not but your not fully recovered and will not be for maybe a month.... 1 death zero recoveries equals 100% death rate according to your calculations.... now that's rubbish, and most 4 year olds can figure that out..
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:35 am
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:47 am
rumpo kid wrote:You’re figures are grossly so misleading, and your insistence so brainless, there’s little point in anyone replying.
I can only hope not too many impressionable people read this, and you should show some responsibility.
Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:15 pm
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:38 pm
rumpo kid wrote:No, I didn’t peddle a stat at all. As stated it’s an American estimate. The figure you’re indicating is the case fatality rate, and is usually known as a biased figure, being only a snapshot of a moment. Anyone presenting that figure at seminar would have rotten tomatoes thrown at them..
But hey, carry on mate, I couldn’t give a f**k. But you are misleading people unnecessarily. Don’t bother with any links, they’re incorrect way before you ever see them and consequently have no use.