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Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:23 pm
just seen Ancheloti getting a red card from the referee for discussing points in the game against Man U. Who do these knobs think they are. If any referee can't discus why they made certain decisions then they should pack up and give up refereeing. Wouldn't it be good if we could somehow play without pricks for referees. Sadly we need the pricks.
Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:38 am
Referees should be made to face the press after games the same as the managers have to, although I guess the majority of them would claim they didn't see any of the poor decisions they made during the game. Could you imagine how Hooper and Martin would have explained away their appalling refereeing in the last three home games at the CCFC stadium.
Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:24 am
To answer both points, I've officiated for the last 12 years up here and at a decent level if I say so myself.
Even the most calm looking manager can still be the most horrible to deal with. At times, there can be no talking to a manager when they don't agree with what you have done or not done. You try and explain and they dismiss you, more often than not in a way that none of you would accept in your workplace so why should a referee?
In terms of facing the media, it was trialled up here many years ago and it failed. Nobody really cared, they wanted another excuse to have a pop at referees and that was all they used it for. Technology is much better these days and VAR could be used in a much better way, hopefully they can find a way to implement it properly. Regardless, there will still be controversy due to human error.
As I've said before, mistakes by players change more games than the decisions of a referee. Shall we have players face the media to explain why they made a bad pass or why a goalkeeper dropped a ball that led to a goal?
Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:57 am
PtB wrote:To answer both points, I've officiated for the last 12 years up here and at a decent level if I say so myself.
Even the most calm looking manager can still be the most horrible to deal with. At times, there can be no talking to a manager when they don't agree with what you have done or not done. You try and explain and they dismiss you, more often than not in a way that none of you would accept in your workplace so why should a referee?
In terms of facing the media, it was trialled up here many years ago and it failed. Nobody really cared, they wanted another excuse to have a pop at referees and that was all they used it for. Technology is much better these days and VAR could be used in a much better way, hopefully they can find a way to implement it properly. Regardless, there will still be controversy due to human error.
As I've said before, mistakes by players change more games than the decisions of a referee. Shall we have players face the media to explain why they made a bad pass or why a goalkeeper dropped a ball that led to a goal?
personally id much prefer an honest mistake { which 99.9999% of mistakes are } by a ref.. than some bloke in a caravan watching it from 10 angles in mega slow motion deciding. half the time its still controversial/ wrong and kills spontaneity..
Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:02 am
I still think the best way forward ,is for the referee to go and look at a pitch side monitor, to check on any close decisions. At least the referee himself, can change the decision and not rely on somebody sat miles away.
Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:12 pm
noisycat wrote:I still think the best way forward ,is for the referee to go and look at a pitch side monitor, to check on any close decisions. At least the referee himself, can change the decision and not rely on somebody sat miles away.
Just have them miked up like Rugby and how it’s done in football in Australia. Everyone can hear what’s going on then. The ref goes and takes a look if the VAR thinks they should. If it’s so obvious they do t have to he just tells the ref what to do. It’s so simple ridiculous how backwards English football is. The fact we dont even have a multi ball system shows how pathetic the people running the FA are.
Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:16 pm
I take your point PtB but surely the referee should be made accountable for the sort of howlers that have been made in our last 3 home games and quite frankly for Simon Hooper to be appointed to referee the Brentford game after his abysmal performance in the Wigan game beggars belief. That seems to me to be taking the mickey.
Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:40 pm
noisycat wrote:I still think the best way forward ,is for the referee to go and look at a pitch side monitor, to check on any close decisions. At least the referee himself, can change the decision and not rely on somebody sat miles away.
I think we are out of step with everyone else who uses VAR on the pitch monitor use.. think it might change next season..
Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:44 pm
Bluebird1949 wrote:I take your point PtB but surely the referee should be made accountable for the sort of howlers that have been made in our last 3 home games and quite frankly for Simon Hooper to be appointed to referee the Brentford game after his abysmal performance in the Wigan game beggars belief. That seems to me to be taking the mickey.
I can't speak for the English systems but up the road we are certainly held accountable albeit it stays indoors. I've seen guys pulled from games and ether left off the list or put to a lower division on the back of poor performances.
Loads of good points in the other replies as well. Referees are damned if they do and damned if they don't in most cases - how often do they get praise? Not often - because they are just doing their job when it goes well. I always recall Neil Warnock praising Jon Moss for his superb advantage vs Southampton at home last season when CP scored. I had a game earlier this season in which I awarded three [penalties(stonewall I may add, and reports back it up!!) only to see some madman on Facebook having a pop at me for awarding three penalties in one match
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