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Updated: ' Cameron Coxe & 7 others City players released '

Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:11 pm

UPDATED:

It’s true all been released.

His dad is saying city blocked him going out on loan 4 times and now have released him.



Cameron Coxe released.....

Bit of a shocker but unfortunately yesterday and today 8 Under 23 players have been released by the club.

Cameron being the most high profile of the youngsters.

Steve Morrisons brush is sweeping clean.

Paid up until the end of the season but all eight are clubless having been told they’re not good enough and shown the door. :mrgreen:


Looks like Harris and Morison ain’t messing about.






Cardiff City wield the axe as Cameron Coxe one of eight youngsters told they have no future at the club


The Bluebirds have told eight young players they will not be offered fresh terms when their current contracts end and we can confirm once-highly-rated prospect Cameron Coxe is the highest-profile casualty

By Glen Williams

22 FEB 2020


Cameron Coxe is one of eight youngsters who Cardiff City are set to release at the end of their contracts (Image: Ben
Cardiff City have told eight academy prospects their contracts will not be renewed, with Cameron Coxe set to be the highest-profile casualty.

WalesOnline can confirm Coxe, who has been widely-regard as one of the more promising players in Cardiff's academy in recent years, is one of a clutch of youngsters who have been told that they are not in the Bluebirds' future plans.

Shamar Moore, Jake Evans and Lawrence Wooton are thought to be other players who will leave, while there are a further four, whose identities are as yet unknown, who are also likely to leave upon completion of their current deals.

Coxe, a Wales under-21 international, has been tipped by many fans and ardent followers of the club's under-23s to go on and have a successful career and that might well be the case.

However, it appears his days at Cardiff City are numbered.

The 21-year-old right back was given two senior outings by Neil Harris in the FA Cup games against Carlisle United, but failed to really grab his opportunity with both hands.


It prompted Harris to say repeatedly that Coxe needs to go out on loan to gain some experience of senior football elsewhere, whether that be League One or Two during the transfer window or in the National League thereafter.

It was telling, too, that on transfer deadline day, Harris recruited young Dion Sanderson, a year Coxe's junior, from Wolves to provide back-up to Jazz Richards following the exit of Lee Peltier.

It will come as a shock to many, especially as it was reported Manchester City were once interested in signing the young Bluebird.


"Unfortunately it's true lads," Coxe's father Neil said on Twitter when responding to the rumours.

"It's a shame but it wasn't to be, hopefully he can kick on somewhere else now."



The concerning contract situations of two key Cardiff City stars in limbo and the transfer decision Neil Harris has to make
While reports and rumours on social media claim the players have been released immediately, we can confirm that is in fact not the case and all players will be allowed to run down their contracts.

This does mean, however, the players affected can begin to plan for their futures and other clubs are now free to talk with them and take them on trial.

While Steve Morison took over as Cardiff City's under-23s coach almost a fortnight ago, it is understood this is a decision that was made by the academy management.
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Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:24 pm

The type of decision that will come back to bite us like many before him

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:30 pm

If they aren’t deemed good enough in their opinion then there’s no point in holding onto them. Hopefully they have a plan B.

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:40 pm

Hopefully they’ll get fixed up at other clubs. City got slaughtered when our ex Academy player, Regan Poole went to Man U after playing for Newport. Poole was released by Man U and is now at MK. Maybe City were right about Poole all along?

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:51 pm

Ray Bishop wrote:Hopefully they’ll get fixed up at other clubs. City got slaughtered when our ex Academy player, Regan Poole went to Man U after playing for Newport. Poole was released by Man U and is now at MK. Maybe City were right about Poole all along?

I think it’s always a bit of a gamble when releasing g kids mate. Some you end up kicking yourself as they do so well and others seem to find a lower level.
One think I think is certain is that our whole youth / academy / U23 / scouting system needs a shake up.

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:54 pm

Doubt this will come back to bite us

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:59 pm

BarryWelsh88 wrote:Doubt this will come back to bite us

I wish all of the released lads the very best of luck but I have a feeling it won’t either mate.

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:10 pm

About time.

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:11 pm

I've had a look (including Coxe's Twitter account) and theres nothing to confirm or deny these stories

WalesOnline not reporting either and the only internet reference leads back to this Forum; so maybe WalesOnline will pick the story up later... ;) :laughing6:

Guess time will tell whether this story is correct or not and I'm not a reader of any other City Forums

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:37 pm

thomasblue wrote:The type of decision that will come back to bite us like many before him


Name one.

Re: Cameron Coxe (and other U23's) released?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:55 pm

Never saw him play but in the three league games he played against poor opposition two of them a league two club and the other bottom of the table Luton we conceded 8 goals and no one thought he had a good game in any of the matches so I would be surprised if this one came back to haunt us. Bearing in mind he was one of the more highly regarded players in the youth set up it doesn't suggest the others will be capable of making it at this level either. Maybe one or two will go on to league one or national league but most will end up in the league of Wales.

Our youth set up has been crap for a at least a decade so it's good that someone like Morrison has come in to shake things up a bit God knows we need it.

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:49 pm

maccydee wrote:
thomasblue wrote:The type of decision that will come back to bite us like many before him


Name one.


I'll name 3 just for you that are recent rather than go into detail and past stupid decisions by our board , managers and academy.

Sami Ajayi
He was never given a chance here and would walk into our defence at the moment. Will be a premier league defender next season.

Tom Lockyer
Now a welsh international and solid championship defender doing very well.

Rabie Matondo
Never made a appearance for us and ended up at Schalke

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:50 am

thomasblue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
thomasblue wrote:The type of decision that will come back to bite us like many before him


Name one.


I'll name 3 just for you that are recent rather than go into detail and past stupid decisions by our board , managers and academy.

Sami Ajayi
He was never given a chance here and would walk into our defence at the moment. Will be a premier league defender next season.

Tom Lockyer
Now a welsh international and solid championship defender doing very well.

Rabie Matondo
Never made a appearance for us and ended up at Schalke


Semi Ajayi wasn't a product of our youth system, he was signed as a senior player, did nothing here so was sold on. Doing well yes, but not really biting us in the arse.

Tom Lockyer is playing for a side lower in the table than us. Again not exactly biting us.

Rabbi Matondo we had no say in. Without a cat 1 academy we have no retention powers with these players when the big boys come and take them away. Hence the reason we are discussing the possibility of upgrading our academy to a cat 1 to stop this happening.

None of these really justify your statement.

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:01 am

thomasblue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
thomasblue wrote:The type of decision that will come back to bite us like many before him


Name one.


I'll name 3 just for you that are recent rather than go into detail and past stupid decisions by our board , managers and academy.

Sami Ajayi
He was never given a chance here and would walk into our defence at the moment. Will be a premier league defender next season.

Tom Lockyer
Now a welsh international and solid championship defender doing very well.

Rabie Matondo
Never made a appearance for us and ended up at Schalke



Ajayi has stuck at it and good luck to him.. but he was a product of Charltons academy not ours, pinched by and then released by Arsenal and then released by ourselves. wasn't exactly a queue of championship or prem teams wanting to sugn him either...
Lockyer ? its taken him 9 years to get anywhere near the level we are at.. any idea how many academy players have come during those 9 years ?
and matondo . we had no choice..

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:01 am

thomasblue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
thomasblue wrote:The type of decision that will come back to bite us like many before him


Name one.


I'll name 3 just for you that are recent rather than go into detail and past stupid decisions by our board , managers and academy.

Sami Ajayi
He was never given a chance here and would walk into our defence at the moment. Will be a premier league defender next season.

Tom Lockyer
Now a welsh international and solid championship defender doing very well.

Rabie Matondo
Never made a appearance for us and ended up at Schalke



Ajayi has stuck at it and good luck to him.. but he was a product of Charltons academy not ours, pinched by and then released by Arsenal and then released by ourselves. wasn't exactly a queue of championship or prem teams wanting to sugn him either...
Lockyer ? its taken him 9 years to get anywhere near the level we are at.. any idea how many academy players have come during those 9 years ?
and matondo . we had no choice..

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:02 am

Sven wrote:I've had a look (including Coxe's Twitter account) and theres nothing to confirm or deny these stories

WalesOnline not reporting either and the only internet reference leads back to this Forum; so maybe WalesOnline will pick the story up later... ;) :laughing6:

Guess time will tell whether this story is correct or not and I'm not a reader of any other City Forums


100% true, coxe and 6 others, Harris and Waite and Brown survive as i think they have another year remaining on their contracts

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:33 am

dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
thomasblue wrote:The type of decision that will come back to bite us like many before him


Name one.


I'll name 3 just for you that are recent rather than go into detail and past stupid decisions by our board , managers and academy.

Sami Ajayi
He was never given a chance here and would walk into our defence at the moment. Will be a premier league defender next season.

Tom Lockyer
Now a welsh international and solid championship defender doing very well.

Rabie Matondo
Never made a appearance for us and ended up at Schalke



Ajayi has stuck at it and good luck to him.. but he was a product of Charltons academy not ours, pinched by and then released by Arsenal and then released by ourselves. wasn't exactly a queue of championship or prem teams wanting to sugn him either...
Lockyer ? its taken him 9 years to get anywhere near the level we are at.. any idea how many academy players have come during those 9 years ?
and matondo . we had no choice..

Also, I don’t remember anyone screaming out that the club should keep him at the time he was released. Hindsight and all that.

Re: Cameron Coxe (and other U23's) released?

Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:09 am

sincere apologies, should of read board index more thoroughly before posting topic as I now see you had this covered :roll:

Re: Cameron Coxe (and other U23's) released?

Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:21 am

For me it just once again shows, another clear out and we produce once again virtually nothing.

I remember the same old posters on here back the last clear out and the last one saying they know what they are doing as we have more talent coming through.

Where is this talent in the last 10 years?

Re: ' Cameron Coxe & 7 others City players released '

Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:46 am

Can’t believe people think that they’re good enough to play for us. Have some ambition, 90% of our youth product (or more) play the vast majority of their careers below the Championship

Re: ' Cameron Coxe & 7 others City players released '

Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:46 am

NH shouldnt be the one hiring the academy guys. i think its a bad move, if lets say, he moves on or gets the sack, he could take morrison with him, which will mean a new coach comes in, and then will release the players he doesnt seem to be good enough, it happened with Bellamy, then Legg, and now Morrison, it seems they keep releasing loads of academy players. i am not bothered about coxe being released as i think he's past the age now where he should of been a regular

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:48 am

BarryWelsh88 wrote:Doubt this will come back to bite us


Agree. Many were saying try him try him. Then when they did hes not good enough so remember what u type

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:53 am

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
thomasblue wrote:The type of decision that will come back to bite us like many before him


Name one.


I'll name 3 just for you that are recent rather than go into detail and past stupid decisions by our board , managers and academy.

Sami Ajayi
He was never given a chance here and would walk into our defence at the moment. Will be a premier league defender next season.

Tom Lockyer
Now a welsh international and solid championship defender doing very well.

Rabie Matondo
Never made a appearance for us and ended up at Schalke



Ajayi has stuck at it and good luck to him.. but he was a product of Charltons academy not ours, pinched by and then released by Arsenal and then released by ourselves. wasn't exactly a queue of championship or prem teams wanting to sugn him either...
Lockyer ? its taken him 9 years to get anywhere near the level we are at.. any idea how many academy players have come during those 9 years ?
and matondo . we had no choice..

Also, I don’t remember anyone screaming out that the club should keep him at the time he was released. Hindsight a



some players are bound to not just give up after leaving, that's life. but decisions have to be ongoing and based on the here and now. the time to be concerned is when we release someone that goes straight into another top half championship / premier academy and is playing for that clubs 1st team shortly afterwards..
most fans take it for what it is.

Re: ' Cameron Coxe & 7 others City players released '

Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:09 am

About time some of them got released been playing under 23s for past 3 seasons and getting nowhere near the 1st team waste of wages. If u ain't making an impression by time u r 19/20 years old theres a problem. If the club think u got potential they'll loan u out if not bye bye.

Coxe obviously seen as not up to it and if he wasn't Welsh we wouldn't care as much and that man city link was prob bullshit too

Re: ' Cameron Coxe & 7 others City players released '

Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:12 am

If this is right then let's hope its because Harris and Morrison believe there are u18s who are worth developing.

An u23 age has always struck me as strange. surely by then anyone likely to be good enough to make it has shown enough to be playing first team football somewhere?

I wonder how many more "professional" players there are now compared to years gone by? And how many never get near a first team?

Re: ' Cameron Coxe & 7 others City players released '

Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:22 am

Simple fact is we have not lost one player ( that we released ) gone on to better things Lockyer who was in the same age group as my son was playing right back At 16 there was not clue that he would have a career in football we simply had better players at the time He had gone on and developed but only after 8 years is he playing in the championship You could argue that Jarrod Bowen had a trial with us and look where he is now
The fact is we don’t have a great deal of talent in South Wales People would struggle to name 20 players from South Wales who have made a major impact in football in the last 10 years Player between 16 and 26

Re: Cameron Coxe (and other U23's) released?

Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:28 am

Forever Blue wrote:For me it just once again shows, another clear out and we produce once again virtually nothing.

I remember the same old posters on here back the last clear out and the last one saying they know what they are doing as we have more talent coming through.

Where is this talent in the last 10 years?

I agree that something needs to be sorted re our whole youth scouting / coaching / academy etc. But I don’t necessarily agree that getting rid of players who in their opinion are not up to the required standard is the wrong thing to do.
I’d love us to produce our home grown players on a far more regular basis - we’ve not done enough of this for a whole now - but the current crop may not be good enough and if that’s the case, it’s the right decision to let them go now.
All opinions though, and that’s mine. :thumbup:

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:36 am

Mr Shed wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
thomasblue wrote:The type of decision that will come back to bite us like many before him


Name one.


I'll name 3 just for you that are recent rather than go into detail and past stupid decisions by our board , managers and academy.

Sami Ajayi
He was never given a chance here and would walk into our defence at the moment. Will be a premier league defender next season.

Tom Lockyer
Now a welsh international and solid championship defender doing very well.

Rabie Matondo
Never made a appearance for us and ended up at Schalke


Semi Ajayi wasn't a product of our youth system, he was signed as a senior player, did nothing here so was sold on. Doing well yes, but not really biting us in the arse.

Tom Lockyer is playing for a side lower in the table than us. Again not exactly biting us.

Rabbi Matondo we had no say in. Without a cat 1 academy we have no retention powers with these players when the big boys come and take them away. Hence the reason we are discussing the possibility of upgrading our academy to a cat 1 to stop this happening.

None of these really justify your statement.


Drops mic and walks out.

Re: Cameron Coxe (and other U23's) released?

Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:46 am

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:For me it just once again shows, another clear out and we produce once again virtually nothing.

I remember the same old posters on here back the last clear out and the last one saying they know what they are doing as we have more talent coming through.

Where is this talent in the last 10 years?

I agree that something needs to be sorted re our whole youth scouting / coaching / academy etc. But I don’t necessarily agree that getting rid of players who in their opinion are not up to the required standard is the wrong thing to do.
I’d love us to produce our home grown players on a far more regular basis - we’ve not done enough of this for a whole now - but the current crop may not be good enough and if that’s the case, it’s the right decision to let them go now.
All opinions though, and that’s mine. :thumbup:


I thought Coxe did really well when we played Luton in the cup. Didn’t do that badly v Carlisle at home but was awful away. It’s such a shame that we have stopped producing good players. Nothing like a home grown youngster playing for my team.
What have we produced in the last 10yrs that have made it?

Re: Cameron Coxe released!

Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:46 am

dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
thomasblue wrote:The type of decision that will come back to bite us like many before him


Name one.


I'll name 3 just for you that are recent rather than go into detail and past stupid decisions by our board , managers and academy.

Sami Ajayi
He was never given a chance here and would walk into our defence at the moment. Will be a premier league defender next season.

Tom Lockyer
Now a welsh international and solid championship defender doing very well.

Rabie Matondo
Never made a appearance for us and ended up at Schalke



Ajayi has stuck at it and good luck to him.. but he was a product of Charltons academy not ours, pinched by and then released by Arsenal and then released by ourselves. wasn't exactly a queue of championship or prem teams wanting to sugn him either...
Lockyer ? its taken him 9 years to get anywhere near the level we are at.. any idea how many academy players have come during those 9 years ?
and matondo . we had no choice..


Absolutely correct. How can anyone say it will come back and bite us is beyond me and that's not another dig at you Thomas as I couldn't name one player who left our club and gone onto bigger and better things although maybe someone has.

This club needs a good overhaul from the youth up to the first team :bluebird: