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Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:43 am

FOR ME DAVE WAS THE RACIST ONE THE OTHER NIGHT & SHOULD OF BEEN THROWN OF STAGE & THE NATIONAL NEWS SHOULD THE FOLLOWING DAY OF SLATED HIM.

For me we are all equal, colour should not matter and 99% of the UK is not racist, The UK is a multicultural country and we should be proud of that and not have people like Dave try to divide us.







Daily Mail


Have I skimmed, have I missed something?

Oh yes, racism. We are all racist now, apparently.

At the Brit Awards this week, award-winning rapper Dave accused Boris Johnson of being a racist.

His argument? 'It is racist, whether or not it feels racist, the truth is our Prime Minister's a real racist,' he rapped. And it must be tru cuz he said it.

Dave accepts the Mastercard Album of The Year during The BRIT Awards 2020


It's so exhausting, isn't it, being guilty of everything all the time?

Being such a perma-disappointment to the woke generation with their burnished morals and burning zeal to expose any instance of modern oppression and right every historical wrong in the dankest corners of society.

Yet there is one area of widespread persecution and criminality in the UK on which they all remain silent — the abuse of white working-class girls by Asian grooming gangs.

Over recent years, hundreds of vulnerable girls have been traumatised, broken, abused, raped, left unable to get on with their lives — but no high-profile crusader speaks for them, do they?

No actor dedicates his or her trophy to them, no duchess pops a concerned head over the parapet of their anguish.

No one is starting a hashtag or opening a pop-up shop or pleading for justice for them.

In fact, few celebrities have anything of note to say on the subject, even though this week saw more convictions of Asian men of mainly Pakistani descent for what have become known as grooming gang offences.

Usman Ali, Banaras Hussain, Abdul Majid, Gul Riaz and two other men were jailed for a total of 55 years for what the judge called 'vile and wicked' repeated sexual assault and the multiple rape of two under-aged white girls.

These offences took place in Huddersfield, but we have been here before — in Rochdale, Bradford, Rotherham, Oldham, Halifax, Nottingham, Telford, Newcastle, Derby, Bristol, Birmingham, Peterborough and elsewhere.

It is a contagion, a disgrace — yet don't expect the ongoing trauma suffered by these girls to get a mention when there are far more fashionable causes to get angry about.

Such as the transgender social justice initiative currently tearing the Labour Party apart or the continued insistence by some that the Grenfell tragedy is a race issue.

If you really want a race issue, consider a report published last month into a grooming scandal in Manchester, which concluded that 57 young girls were thought to have been exploited by up to 100 Asian members of a gang, despite the fact police and social workers knew what was happening.

Or note that in Oxford this month, three Asian men were jailed for a total of 49 years for raping and sexually abusing a schoolgirl, the third trial in a series of linked cases going back years.

Naim Khan, Mohammed Nazir and Raheem Ahmed — all in their 40s — were found guilty of 35 offences against the girl when she was aged between 13 and 15.

'My life has been destroyed,' she said in her victim statement. In many of these cases, the victims were not believed at first, only to be later left with shattered lives freighted with eating disorders, depression, PTSD and drug dependence.

It is not helpful, some say, to think of this national scandal in terms of race because white men are abusers, too. Indeed they are, but on this scale? Operating with such impunity in so many cities?

We all know what we can see, which is that these girls and their families have been let down and that there is still little evidence of efforts in British Pakistani communities to confront the problem.
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Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:24 am

I wonder if Dave thinks the murder of Lee Rigby was racist,if the killing of kriss Donald was racist,I doubt he's ever heard of the lad who was tortured and burned alive or if the genocide if white farmers in south Africa is racist?
The likes of Dave and the liberal left believe racism is only a white crime when in fact,isn't Dave calling people racist for no reason racist?

Keep up the good work Dave and you'll start a divide that in the present era is virtually non existent
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Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:37 am

Isn't his real name 'Rodney' or am I just getting confused like my old mate, Trigger?

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:40 am

What was racist about the song?

He is an artist who wrote a song about 1) Being proud of his ethnicity and culture and 2) the oppression and struggles of black people.
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Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:56 am

JasonFowler1991 wrote:What was racist about the song?

He is an artist who wrote a song about 1) Being proud of his ethnicity and culture and 2) the oppression and struggles of black people.


Your having a laugh mate, the only person here is racist, is Dave.
Imagine if a white singer sang this the other way around?
What would the media do, this Dave is causing problems for the sake of it.
Why is he continually attacking white people, The Uk is now more equal than ever and we are all the same, no need for colour to be mentioned at all.

So you think its right to keep calling out white people?


So you think there is nothing wrong in Daves song?

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:28 pm

grange_end1927 wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:What was racist about the song?

He is an artist who wrote a song about 1) Being proud of his ethnicity and culture and 2) the oppression and struggles of black people.


Your having a laugh mate, the only person here is racist, is Dave.
Imagine if a white singer sang this the other way around?
What would the media do, this Dave is causing problems for the sake of it.

Why is he continually attacking white people, The Uk is now more equal than ever and we are all the same, no need for colour to be mentioned at all.

So you think its right to keep calling out white people?

So you think there is nothing wrong in Daves song?



Can you explain to me what was racist?
He wasn't anti white, he actually praised the work and actions of a white activist. He simply highlighted the struggles of Black people, which are true.

The irony here is the posters calling it racist, are the same posters who throw about the term snowflake.

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:36 pm

I’m not going to entertain you guys with an attempt or a debate because there’s just no reasoning with lack of common sense. No, Dave was not racist, and it’s a reflection of your character if you took what he said as racist.

The fact is he got it spot on. If you think otherwise then good luck to you, you can can call it your generation, but I call it ignorance.
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Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:40 pm

For you to sit there and pretend that if a white person making a song about the struggles of being white in this society you would look a fool. There is no struggle for whites people in the UK, that’s the difference, that’s why a white song is NOT the same. You’re a fool to think so.
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Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:41 pm

Jasonfowler1991. Have you actually thought before typing?

God ( am I allowed to say that?) Help us, as the Leftie do- gooders, pc brigade, Liberal loons have taken over the planet!!!

Hope the two minute wonder that is Dave fails in the record sales :old: / downloads as to spout that C rap will be forgotten soon enough.


Even black friends I speak to wish the likes of Dave , Stormzy etc would shut the f**k up with their " look at me, down trodden and victimised all my life" nonsense.

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:44 pm

JulesK wrote:Jasonfowler1991. Have you actually thought before typing?

God ( am I allowed to say that?) Help us, as the Leftie do- gooders, pc brigade, Liberal loons have taken over the planet!!!

Hope the two minute wonder that is Dave fails in the record sales :old: / downloads as to spout that C rap will be forgotten soon enough.


Even black friends I speak to wish the likes of Dave , Stormzy etc would shut the f**k up with their " look at me, down trodden and victimised all my life" nonsense.


Mate, spot on, I live in Grange and which is very much multicultural and many are shocked by this Daves outburst, we all get on well, this racist is dividing people, no need for it at all.

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:46 pm

LeonSDC wrote:I’m not going to entertain you guys with an attempt or a debate because there’s just no reasoning with lack of common sense. No, Dave was not racist, and it’s a reflection of your character if you took what he said as racist.

The fact is he got it spot on. If you think otherwise then good luck to you, you can can call it your generation, but I call it ignorance.


Same to you mate, your not worth discussing it with, you need to open your eyes

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:48 pm

JulesK wrote:Jasonfowler1991. Have you actually thought before typing?

God ( am I allowed to say that?) Help us, as the Leftie do- gooders, pc brigade, Liberal loons have taken over the planet!!!

Hope the two minute wonder that is Dave fails in the record sales :old: / downloads as to spout that C rap will be forgotten soon enough.


Even black friends I speak to wish the likes of Dave , Stormzy etc would shut the f**k up with their " look at me, down trodden and victimised all my life" nonsense.


1) I am not left.
2) If you listened to his music, you would know thats not what he is about.
3) I'll ask again, what was racist about the song, in which he praises a white man?
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Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:49 pm

grange_end1927 wrote:
LeonSDC wrote:I’m not going to entertain you guys with an attempt or a debate because there’s just no reasoning with lack of common sense. No, Dave was not racist, and it’s a reflection of your character if you took what he said as racist.

The fact is he got it spot on. If you think otherwise then good luck to you, you can can call it your generation, but I call it ignorance.


Same to you mate, your not worth discussing it with, you need to open your eyes


I'll ask again, what was racist?

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:51 pm

JasonFowler1991 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:What was racist about the song?

He is an artist who wrote a song about 1) Being proud of his ethnicity and culture and 2) the oppression and struggles of black people.


Your having a laugh mate, the only person here is racist, is Dave.
Imagine if a white singer sang this the other way around?
What would the media do, this Dave is causing problems for the sake of it.

Why is he continually attacking white people, The Uk is now more equal than ever and we are all the same, no need for colour to be mentioned at all.

So you think its right to keep calling out white people?

So you think there is nothing wrong in Daves song?



Can you explain to me what was racist?
He wasn't anti white, he actually praised the work and actions of a white activist. He simply highlighted the struggles of Black people, which are true.

The irony here is the posters calling it racist, are the same posters who throw about the term snowflake.


Mate, how about answering my questions first, instead of brushing them under the carpet :roll:

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:56 pm

grange_end1927 wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:What was racist about the song?

He is an artist who wrote a song about 1) Being proud of his ethnicity and culture and 2) the oppression and struggles of black people.


Your having a laugh mate, the only person here is racist, is Dave.
Imagine if a white singer sang this the other way around?
What would the media do, this Dave is causing problems for the sake of it.

Why is he continually attacking white people, The Uk is now more equal than ever and we are all the same, no need for colour to be mentioned at all.

So you think its right to keep calling out white people?

So you think there is nothing wrong in Daves song?



Can you explain to me what was racist?
He wasn't anti white, he actually praised the work and actions of a white activist. He simply highlighted the struggles of Black people, which are true.

The irony here is the posters calling it racist, are the same posters who throw about the term snowflake.


Mate, how about answering my questions first, instead of brushing them under the carpet :roll:


Happy to answer, although you were replying to my post, where I asked a question first. Anyway, it's unlikely a white person in The UK would make such a song as their lives are not made harder by the colour of their skin alone. We're also not victims of institutional racism, from the Police for example.

That isn't to say though, that white people don't face any types of discrimination or not.
Dave doesn't say that either, just that Blacks have to work harder, which in most cases is true.

Now tell me, what was racist?

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:01 pm

JasonFowler1991 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:What was racist about the song?

He is an artist who wrote a song about 1) Being proud of his ethnicity and culture and 2) the oppression and struggles of black people.


Your having a laugh mate, the only person here is racist, is Dave.
Imagine if a white singer sang this the other way around?
What would the media do, this Dave is causing problems for the sake of it.

Why is he continually attacking white people, The Uk is now more equal than ever and we are all the same, no need for colour to be mentioned at all.

So you think its right to keep calling out white people?

So you think there is nothing wrong in Daves song?



Can you explain to me what was racist?
He wasn't anti white, he actually praised the work and actions of a white activist. He simply highlighted the struggles of Black people, which are true.

The irony here is the posters calling it racist, are the same posters who throw about the term snowflake.


Mate, how about answering my questions first, instead of brushing them under the carpet :roll:


Happy to answer, although you were replying to my post, where I asked a question first. Anyway, it's unlikely a white person in The UK would make such a song as their lives are not made harder by the colour of their skin alone. We're also not victims of institutional racism, from the Police for example.

That isn't to say though, that white people don't face any types of discrimination or not.
Dave doesn't say that either, just that Blacks have to work harder, which in most cases is true.

Now tell me, what was racist?



Disagree mate, in todays world if you are ethnic for example your more likely to get a Council job.
Tv news, shows,sports are now far more diverse.
Why are there black awards, music, films? black police federation, imagine the other way around?
UK goes out of its way to give ethnics,black jobs on tv first to show we are not a racist country.
Dave's song is racist from beginning to end


Answer if a white person had sung it what would of happened?

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:39 pm

Fine. I’ll entertain the debate because I’ve just read the absolute disgustingly misleading out of context bull crap I’ve ever read with that tweet you’ve attached to my posts.

90% of that tweet is completely misleading. Let me go through it one by one with you people.

The screenshot of that post this pleb has tries to mislead by wrongly summarising what was said.

It shows “Blacks are victimised by Whites”.
Bare in mind he’s rapping and talking generally, he’s not saying most white people are victimising white people. In context of everything he says, he is talking about certain examples. He also at any point doesn’t say “Blacks are victimised by Whites”.

It shows “Blacks are better than Whites” (“we have to work twice as hard than the people we’re better than”).
Again, he doesn’t say “Blacks are better than Whites”. He is giving an example that WHEN a black person is the hardest worker at a job, the white person who doesn’t put as much effort in, or isn’t as qualified as the black person, seems to get the promotion or the credit. That’s all. He’s giving an example that Black people aren’t treated the same as White people, and the only way to get treated the same is if the Black person works harder. But even then he only gets the same attention.

He is NOT saying White people are better than Black people oh my god people. You look so pathetic right now honestly. Everything that Guy has misquoted and mislead out of context bulletpoints is complete and utter bull. And I have a feeling even if you realise “oh wait maybe he meant it this way”, you still wouldn’t admit it because you’ve made your post and decision now and you think you’d look weak by admitting you were wrong.

The fact is you‘d earn so much more respect from me in particular if you take a second look at it again, listen to what he says, and change your stance on it.

If not, then like I said, you are completely ignorant and seeing things that aren’t there.

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:49 pm

grange_end1927 wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:
JasonFowler1991 wrote:What was racist about the song?

He is an artist who wrote a song about 1) Being proud of his ethnicity and culture and 2) the oppression and struggles of black people.


Your having a laugh mate, the only person here is racist, is Dave.
Imagine if a white singer sang this the other way around?
What would the media do, this Dave is causing problems for the sake of it.

Why is he continually attacking white people, The Uk is now more equal than ever and we are all the same, no need for colour to be mentioned at all.

So you think its right to keep calling out white people?

So you think there is nothing wrong in Daves song?



Can you explain to me what was racist?
He wasn't anti white, he actually praised the work and actions of a white activist. He simply highlighted the struggles of Black people, which are true.

The irony here is the posters calling it racist, are the same posters who throw about the term snowflake.


Mate, how about answering my questions first, instead of brushing them under the carpet :roll:


Happy to answer, although you were replying to my post, where I asked a question first. Anyway, it's unlikely a white person in The UK would make such a song as their lives are not made harder by the colour of their skin alone. We're also not victims of institutional racism, from the Police for example.

That isn't to say though, that white people don't face any types of discrimination or not.
Dave doesn't say that either, just that Blacks have to work harder, which in most cases is true.

Now tell me, what was racist?



Disagree mate, in todays world if you are ethnic for example your more likely to get a Council job.
Tv news, shows,sports are now far more diverse.
Why are there black awards, music, films? black police federation, imagine the other way around?
UK goes out of its way to give ethnics,black jobs on tv first to show we are not a racist country.
Dave's song is racist from beginning to end


Answer if a white person had sung it what would of happened?


If a white person rapped the exact same song I would respect the hell out of that white person because a white person admitting there’s still racism out there would very powerful

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:49 pm

Who do these so called stars think they are. I am sure the majority of people in the uk are fed up to the back teeth of the racist card bring played at every opportunity. Dave, best you dissappear up your own arse.

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:11 pm

Only one thing to say here quote " Blacks are better than whites" If a white person had said "Whites are better than blacks" that would be called racist! Did not an Adviser who was going to join the goverment been quoted as saying the same sort of thing that this Dave was saying only he did not say it in a song, there was such an uproar that he had to stand down from the job he was just going to start!
Jason fowler and LeonSDC, you are just seeing what you want to see! You cannot have it both ways!

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:14 pm

Don’t bother to watch any of that shite any more,the oscars,the brits etc can all go and F themselves,tired of listening to their virtue signaling messages.
Just have an announcement on TV who won what and send their award in the post,or better still like the bbc,scrap it altogether.

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:28 pm

Igovernor wrote:Only one thing to say here quote " Blacks are better than whites" If a white person had said "Whites are better than blacks" that would be called racist! Did not an Adviser who was going to join the goverment been quoted as saying the same sort of thing that this Dave was saying only he did not say it in a song, there was such an uproar that he had to stand down from the job he was just going to start!
Jason fowler and LeonSDC, you are just seeing what you want to see! You cannot have it both ways!


Mate!!! He didn’t say “Blacks are better than Whites”!!! That’s our point! The person calling Dave racist is misquoting him. He didn’t AT ALL say Blacks are better than Whites FFS. Do you see our frustration when trying to say our side of the arguement, and everyone is replying to us using fake quotes as if it’s a valid arguement and expect us to reply to “Blacks are better than Whites”.

Instead of using this guys screenshot of fake quotes, how about watching the damn video and quoting us word for word something he says so we can have a proper discussion.

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:47 pm

LeonSDC wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Only one thing to say here quote " Blacks are better than whites" If a white person had said "Whites are better than blacks" that would be called racist! Did not an Adviser who was going to join the goverment been quoted as saying the same sort of thing that this Dave was saying only he did not say it in a song, there was such an uproar that he had to stand down from the job he was just going to start!
Jason fowler and LeonSDC, you are just seeing what you want to see! You cannot have it both ways!


Mate!!! He didn’t say “Blacks are better than Whites”!!! That’s our point! The person calling Dave racist is misquoting him. He didn’t AT ALL say Blacks are better than Whites FFS. Do you see our frustration when trying to say our side of the arguement, and everyone is replying to us using fake quotes as if it’s a valid arguement and expect us to reply to “Blacks are better than Whites”.

Instead of using this guys screenshot of fake quotes, how about watching the damn video and quoting us word for word something he says so we can have a proper discussion.


Ok where is the video :thumbup:

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:52 pm

Quote "Black is working harder than the people you know you are better than" from the video I just watched, so that means better than anyone who is not black does it not?

Re: Who is the Racist?

Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:56 pm

Leon firstly, do you even know me? If not, well I'm not your mate ok.

Secondly and much more importantly, whether you are white, black, yellow who cares? It is only the likes of Dave ( and you ) shoving this race envelope.

Folk always got along just fine until someone thought " oh I can make a name for myself and get compensated "

Try getting off the soapbox and see why racism is happening as much as you say, it's because folk are getting sick to the back teeth of every time you open a newspaper or switch on the TV there is someone harping on about equality!!