Madine v Zohore

There was a lot of people on this board desperate for Madine to start ahead of Zohore 2 seasons ago.

Now compare them. I don’t want to insult the fans who had the opinion that playing Madine would make us better than playing Zohore. But I don’t know what you were watching. Same thing is happening with “certain players” Warnock has signed this season, mark my words those “certain players” will be dropping a division in a season or two. It’s a shame because it’s so obvious to some fans including myself how bad some of our players are. It’s like being an atheist and trying to convince a religious person that they’re wrong. It’s obvious, and it’s pointless trying.

Comparing Zohore with Madine is like comparing Harry Kane with Fred Gounongbe!

There was a lot of people on this board desperate for Madine to start ahead of Zohore 2 seasons ago.

Now compare them. I don’t want to insult the fans who had the opinion that playing Madine would make us better than playing Zohore. But I don’t know what you were watching. Same thing is happening with “certain players” Warnock has signed this season, mark my words those “certain players” will be dropping a division in a season or two. It’s a shame because it’s so obvious to some fans including myself how bad some of our players are. It’s like being an atheist and trying to convince a religious person that they’re wrong. It’s obvious, and it’s pointless trying.

Are you going name those 'certain players' then?

Well the players signed in the summer were Flint, Day, Nelson, Whyte, Pack, Vassell and Glatzel. Just £15m of talent there.

There was a lot of people on this board desperate for Madine to start ahead of Zohore 2 seasons ago.

Now compare them. I don’t want to insult the fans who had the opinion that playing Madine would make us better than playing Zohore. But I don’t know what you were watching. Same thing is happening with “certain players” Warnock has signed this season, mark my words those “certain players” will be dropping a division in a season or two. It’s a shame because it’s so obvious to some fans including myself how bad some of our players are. It’s like being an atheist and trying to convince a religious person that they’re wrong. It’s obvious, and it’s pointless trying.

Are you going name those 'certain players' then?

Pack, he will be going the road of Whittingham, lack of pace and simply doesn’t make up for it with any other quality he is supposed to have.

Flint, it’s evident we are fragile at the back when he plays. I can’t really say much else more at this point having stressed my feelings about him for months.

Glatzel, he’s clearly good with the ball in spells but his finishing is appalling, and doesn’t offer enough of anything else for an 5-8m striker (I can’t remember how much we paid) considering we’ve essentially swapped Zohore for him it’s appalling business.

Joe Day was a backup keeper for Newport, and about 3 pre season games and that 1 appearances he made against Wigan (I watched every game live on Cardiff tv and i watched the taffs well game in person, I can categorically say he is not a championship goalkeeper. The fact he was signed originally to replace Smithies is a joke.

I’m still hopeful of Whyte as he has shown a bit of willingness and desire to play, just needs something to click for him I think and he’ll be flying, hopefully. Possibly a dud though, I’m not ruling that out.

There was a lot of people on this board desperate for Madine to start ahead of Zohore 2 seasons ago.

Now compare them. I don’t want to insult the fans who had the opinion that playing Madine would make us better than playing Zohore. But I don’t know what you were watching. Same thing is happening with “certain players” Warnock has signed this season, mark my words those “certain players” will be dropping a division in a season or two. It’s a shame because it’s so obvious to some fans including myself how bad some of our players are. It’s like being an atheist and trying to convince a religious person that they’re wrong. It’s obvious, and it’s pointless trying.

in the last 7 games we got smashed at QPR and took points in the other 6 games all against teams above us...
just doesn't happen if you have as many league one/ poor players as you are making out...
has nothing to do with if your an atheist ,religious or an amoeba

There was a lot of people on this board desperate for Madine to start ahead of Zohore 2 seasons ago.

Now compare them. I don’t want to insult the fans who had the opinion that playing Madine would make us better than playing Zohore. But I don’t know what you were watching. Same thing is happening with “certain players” Warnock has signed this season, mark my words those “certain players” will be dropping a division in a season or two. It’s a shame because it’s so obvious to some fans including myself how bad some of our players are. It’s like being an atheist and trying to convince a religious person that they’re wrong. It’s obvious, and it’s pointless trying.

Are you going name those 'certain players' then?

Pack, he will be going the road of Whittingham, lack of pace and simply doesn’t make up for it with any other quality he is supposed to have.

Flint, it’s evident we are fragile at the back when he plays. I can’t really say much else more at this point having stressed my feelings about him for months.

Glatzel, he’s clearly good with the ball in spells but his finishing is appalling, and doesn’t offer enough of anything else for an 5-8m striker (I can’t remember how much we paid) considering we’ve essentially swapped Zohore for him it’s appalling business.

Joe Day was a backup keeper for Newport, and about 3 pre season games and that 1 appearances he made against Wigan (I watched every game live on Cardiff tv and i watched the taffs well game in person, I can categorically say he is not a championship goalkeeper. The fact he was signed originally to replace Smithies is a joke.

I’m still hopeful of Whyte as he has shown a bit of willingness and desire to play, just needs something to click for him I think and he’ll be flying, hopefully. Possibly a dud though, I’m not ruling that out.

I agree with a lot of what you said but Pack is nothing like Whittingham whatsoever. One is a defensive player, the other has been the Championship top scorer and in the top 3-5 top scorer list a handful of times. Also, Whittingham’s lack of pace/physicality was most certainly compensated with his technicality. The bloke’s left foot was the best this division’s ever seen. There’s a reason why he was one of the first names on the team sheet for almost a decade.

Not Me - Madine

There was a lot of people on this board desperate for Madine to start ahead of Zohore 2 seasons ago.

Now compare them. I don’t want to insult the fans who had the opinion that playing Madine would make us better than playing Zohore. But I don’t know what you were watching. Same thing is happening with “certain players” Warnock has signed this season, mark my words those “certain players” will be dropping a division in a season or two. It’s a shame because it’s so obvious to some fans including myself how bad some of our players are. It’s like being an atheist and trying to convince a religious person that they’re wrong. It’s obvious, and it’s pointless trying.

Are you going name those 'certain players' then?

Pack, he will be going the road of Whittingham, lack of pace and simply doesn’t make up for it with any other quality he is supposed to have.

Flint, it’s evident we are fragile at the back when he plays. I can’t really say much else more at this point having stressed my feelings about him for months.

Glatzel, he’s clearly good with the ball in spells but his finishing is appalling, and doesn’t offer enough of anything else for an 5-8m striker (I can’t remember how much we paid) considering we’ve essentially swapped Zohore for him it’s appalling business.

Joe Day was a backup keeper for Newport, and about 3 pre season games and that 1 appearances he made against Wigan (I watched every game live on Cardiff tv and i watched the taffs well game in person, I can categorically say he is not a championship goalkeeper. The fact he was signed originally to replace Smithies is a joke.

I’m still hopeful of Whyte as he has shown a bit of willingness and desire to play, just needs something to click for him I think and he’ll be flying, hopefully. Possibly a dud though, I’m not ruling that out.

£5.5m for Glatzel, £8m for Zohore, so not really accurate as for a straight swap,and for the time Glatzel has been here (1/2 season )he has the same amount of goals,that zohore managed in his last 2 seasons with us So even as poor as his finishing can be,he is no worse as a striker than Zohore was for us.same goals scored, and a £2.5m gain I still believe with the service being poor to Glatzel, he looks lost,has come from,in his words,a more technical league,and is still adjusting to the toughness and brutish at times championship.lastly was day bought to replace Smithies? I believed he was bought as back up to Smithies, if etheridge was sold.all opinion of course.

There was a lot of people on this board desperate for Madine to start ahead of Zohore 2 seasons ago.

Now compare them. I don’t want to insult the fans who had the opinion that playing Madine would make us better than playing Zohore. But I don’t know what you were watching. Same thing is happening with “certain players” Warnock has signed this season, mark my words those “certain players” will be dropping a division in a season or two. It’s a shame because it’s so obvious to some fans including myself how bad some of our players are. It’s like being an atheist and trying to convince a religious person that they’re wrong. It’s obvious, and it’s pointless trying.

Are you going name those 'certain players' then?

Pack, he will be going the road of Whittingham, lack of pace and simply doesn’t make up for it with any other quality he is supposed to have.

Flint, it’s evident we are fragile at the back when he plays. I can’t really say much else more at this point having stressed my feelings about him for months.

Glatzel, he’s clearly good with the ball in spells but his finishing is appalling, and doesn’t offer enough of anything else for an 5-8m striker (I can’t remember how much we paid) considering we’ve essentially swapped Zohore for him it’s appalling business.

Joe Day was a backup keeper for Newport, and about 3 pre season games and that 1 appearances he made against Wigan (I watched every game live on Cardiff tv and i watched the taffs well game in person, I can categorically say he is not a championship goalkeeper. The fact he was signed originally to replace Smithies is a joke.

I’m still hopeful of Whyte as he has shown a bit of willingness and desire to play, just needs something to click for him I think and he’ll be flying, hopefully. Possibly a dud though, I’m not ruling that out.

£5.5m for Glatzel, £8m for Zohore, so not really accurate as for a straight swap,and for the time Glatzel has been here (1/2 season )he has the same amount of goals,that zohore managed in his last 2 seasons with us So even as poor as his finishing can be,he is no worse as a striker than Zohore was for us.same goals scored, and a £2.5m gain I still believe with the service being poor to Glatzel, he looks lost,has come from,in his words,a more technical league,and is still adjusting to the toughness and brutish at times championship.lastly was day bought to replace Smithies? I believed he was bought as back up to Smithies, if etheridge was sold.all opinion of course.

its only my opinion..i think Smithies was all but gone, he was absent from the tour with no explanation given and then was not on the bench against Wigan. Day came on and really didn't impress..
as for Ken. its not all about how many goals you score but he scored more than 4 in his last 2 seasons.
he scored 9 in the promotion season .

You do realise Zohore has been a massive flop for West Brom and is third in their pecking order behind Ronson-Kanu and Charlie Austin?

There was a lot of people on this board desperate for Madine to start ahead of Zohore 2 seasons ago.

Now compare them. I don’t want to insult the fans who had the opinion that playing Madine would make us better than playing Zohore. But I don’t know what you were watching. Same thing is happening with “certain players” Warnock has signed this season, mark my words those “certain players” will be dropping a division in a season or two. It’s a shame because it’s so obvious to some fans including myself how bad some of our players are. It’s like being an atheist and trying to convince a religious person that they’re wrong. It’s obvious, and it’s pointless trying.

Are you going name those 'certain players' then?

Pack, he will be going the road of Whittingham, lack of pace and simply doesn’t make up for it with any other quality he is supposed to have.

Flint, it’s evident we are fragile at the back when he plays. I can’t really say much else more at this point having stressed my feelings about him for months.

Glatzel, he’s clearly good with the ball in spells but his finishing is appalling, and doesn’t offer enough of anything else for an 5-8m striker (I can’t remember how much we paid) considering we’ve essentially swapped Zohore for him it’s appalling business.

Joe Day was a backup keeper for Newport, and about 3 pre season games and that 1 appearances he made against Wigan (I watched every game live on Cardiff tv and i watched the taffs well game in person, I can categorically say he is not a championship goalkeeper. The fact he was signed originally to replace Smithies is a joke.

I’m still hopeful of Whyte as he has shown a bit of willingness and desire to play, just needs something to click for him I think and he’ll be flying, hopefully. Possibly a dud though, I’m not ruling that out.

Just out of interest who would you have replaced them all with then. Stick with the same money that was used on those assuming that is the only money we had and tell us who you would have brought into the side instead

I loved big ken zohore over madine all day long but this is a wrong caparison, its Zohore And Glatzel you need to compare. And at the moment i would prefer Zohore over Glatzel.

You do realise Zohore has been a massive flop for West Brom and is third in their pecking order behind Ronson-Kanu and Charlie Austin?

No I don't realize that because it's not true. Zohore is picking up form, he has scored in both his last games (He scored in a 1-0 victory 2 weeks ago so basically won his side the game with all 3 points). He has scored 4 goals this season, and yes earlier in the season he was dropped, but since coming back into the team he has performed exceptionally and is getting the goals his performances deserve too. You wanna pretend that Zohore is 2nd or third choice when he's was injured for about a month, and since his return to fitness has played every game. You're talking nonsense.

There was a lot of people on this board desperate for Madine to start ahead of Zohore 2 seasons ago.

Now compare them. I don’t want to insult the fans who had the opinion that playing Madine would make us better than playing Zohore. But I don’t know what you were watching. Same thing is happening with “certain players” Warnock has signed this season, mark my words those “certain players” will be dropping a division in a season or two. It’s a shame because it’s so obvious to some fans including myself how bad some of our players are. It’s like being an atheist and trying to convince a religious person that they’re wrong. It’s obvious, and it’s pointless trying.

Are you going name those 'certain players' then?

Pack, he will be going the road of Whittingham, lack of pace and simply doesn’t make up for it with any other quality he is supposed to have.

Flint, it’s evident we are fragile at the back when he plays. I can’t really say much else more at this point having stressed my feelings about him for months.

Glatzel, he’s clearly good with the ball in spells but his finishing is appalling, and doesn’t offer enough of anything else for an 5-8m striker (I can’t remember how much we paid) considering we’ve essentially swapped Zohore for him it’s appalling business.

Joe Day was a backup keeper for Newport, and about 3 pre season games and that 1 appearances he made against Wigan (I watched every game live on Cardiff tv and i watched the taffs well game in person, I can categorically say he is not a championship goalkeeper. The fact he was signed originally to replace Smithies is a joke.

I’m still hopeful of Whyte as he has shown a bit of willingness and desire to play, just needs something to click for him I think and he’ll be flying, hopefully. Possibly a dud though, I’m not ruling that out.

Just out of interest who would you have replaced them all with then. Stick with the same money that was used on those assuming that is the only money we had and tell us who you would have brought into the side instead

Why would I know who to sign? I'm not a scout and I'm not undermining the clubs current or former scouting set up. All I know is if I was the one making the decisions I wouldn't have signed those players. But to answer your question, I would replace Pack with either Ralls or Vaulks. I would replace Joe Day with our young player of the season George Radcliffe, or if we wanna loan him out for some gametime fine, in that case Brian Murphy shouldn've been enough, no need for Day. Absolutely no need for Flint when we had Morrison, Nelson & Cunningham who could play center back. What we needed was a ball playing center half who could be an acceptable replacement for Bruno, not better or the same quality, that would be difficult, but atleast try and find someone and make an effort, not just settle for the one center half who's available and sign him just because he's tall. Strange transfer policy that.
Glatzel was a gamble and I accept it for what it is, a gamble, that's what happens with strikers. I'm not having a go, he's probably the most useful out of the ones I mentioned, however as I see Glatzel as Zohore's direct replacement, in that context I have to admit it is an awfully disappointing signing. Zohore didn't want to go, Warnock just lost faith in him because he couldn't do what Warnock wanted him to do, and no it's not as simple as scoring goals as every striker under Warnock has found out. Imagine Tomlin/Zohore partnership, it would be thriving right now. Shame really.