Do we struggle to attract players?

do you think Cardiff struggle to attract players?

you look at Swansea who have signed 3 decent players this window and just about to complete the signing of the chelsea youngster who was on loan to charlton whose done very well this season, it seems we never seem to go for young exciting prem players on loan or we try and go for them but just cant get them to sign?

whats your thoughts?

I suppose that’s why their acquisition of Steve Cooper is now paying dividends. He’s worked with most of these players before in the England youth setup. Gallagher is probably one of the better players I’ve seen all season in this league when he was at Charlton. They seem to really be going for the promotion push.

With regards to us being able to attract players, unless we know who we’re trying to get we’ll never know. Warnock would never have gone for the players Swans are getting in, as he likes experienced older players. And only time will tell what sort of player Harris intends to get. So it’s not easy to answer the question you’ve asked without knowing who our targets are.

I suppose that’s why their acquisition of Steve Cooper is now paying dividends. He’s worked with most of these players before in the England youth setup. Gallagher is probably one of the better players I’ve seen all season in this league when he was at Charlton. They seem to really be going for the promotion push.

With regards to us being able to attract players, unless we know who we’re trying to get we’ll never know. Warnock would never have gone for the players Swans are getting in, as he likes experienced older players. And only time will tell what sort of player Harris intends to get. So it’s not easy to answer the question you’ve asked without knowing who our targets are.

Got it in one,although its his first senior appointment the man is well connected.

I suppose that’s why their acquisition of Steve Cooper is now paying dividends. He’s worked with most of these players before in the England youth setup. Gallagher is probably one of the better players I’ve seen all season in this league when he was at Charlton. They seem to really be going for the promotion push.

With regards to us being able to attract players, unless we know who we’re trying to get we’ll never know. Warnock would never have gone for the players Swans are getting in, as he likes experienced older players. And only time will tell what sort of player Harris intends to get. So it’s not easy to answer the question you’ve asked without knowing who our targets are.

Got it in one,although its his first senior appointment the man is well connected.

Would he have got them on permanent basis doubt it connections or not! As for us we dont appear to have the best set up to get players in it always seems to be to do with money? Which is strange considering the multi millions we wasted on players who either never played for us or played few games, time will tell if NH as the ability to bring in decent players in the summer

do you think Cardiff struggle to attract players?

you look at Swansea who have signed 3 decent players this window and just about to complete the signing of the chelsea youngster who was on loan to charlton whose done very well this season, it seems we never seem to go for young exciting prem players on loan or we try and go for them but just cant get them to sign?

whats your thoughts?

think its more a case of Cooper knowing these boys personally..
only time will tell if it works out.

do you think Cardiff struggle to attract players?

you look at Swansea who have signed 3 decent players this window and just about to complete the signing of the chelsea youngster who was on loan to charlton whose done very well this season, it seems we never seem to go for young exciting prem players on loan or we try and go for them but just cant get them to sign?

whats your thoughts?

think its more a case of Cooper knowing these boys personally..
only time will tell if it works out.

not just necessarily swansea but if you look Huddersfield who signed arsenal youngster emile smith rowe and bristol who look to be signing nkeita from arsenal.. so many youngsters we could be targeting

I have said before a really top quality scout is worth his weight in gold i would have rather attracted the best scout we could get for the money we spent on 11 million on murphy I would have rather have spent a chunk of that on a scout and we qoyld have a better return for our money spent

I have asked this a number of times to people involved in the game at Player, agent and those involved with clubs My cousins is very good friends with and agent an ex wales international and his words are not much different to what has been said on here many times

1 He would not recommend youngster to come here over Swansea for development purposes
2 our academy is not rated anymore
3 The lack of opportunities given to young players
4 During Warnock times the style of football


If you think to the Dave Jones period we attracted so many good players Thou they never got us promoted but still some of the best football I watched at city

For foreign players Cardiff is not a great draw as it is not seen as a big club and the most important of all for most is salary levels Players will generally go to the higher payers and we are not one of the high payers
My biggest concern is why we can’t attract the young players on loan or are we just not enquiring

I have said before a really top quality scout is worth his weight in gold i would have rather attracted the best scout we could get for the money we spent on 11 million on murphy I would have rather have spent a chunk of that on a scout and we qoyld have a better return for our money spent

If we ever paid a scout £11m then we would be paying £500m for players. I don’t think you quite understand that part of football, a scout wouldn’t earn anywhere near that sort of money in their whole career especially at our level.

Sorry just noticed I misread your comment. You did say a ‘chunk of that money’

I have asked this a number of times to people involved in the game at Player, agent and those involved with clubs My cousins is very good friends with and agent an ex wales international and his words are not much different to what has been said on here many times

1 He would not recommend youngster to come here over Swansea for development purposes
2 our academy is not rated anymore
3 The lack of opportunities given to young players
4 During Warnock times the style of football


If you think to the Dave Jones period we attracted so many good players Thou they never got us promoted but still some of the best football I watched at city

For foreign players Cardiff is not a great draw as it is not seen as a big club and the most important of all for most is salary levels Players will generally go to the higher payers and we are not one of the high payers
My biggest concern is why we can’t attract the young players on loan or are we just not enquiring

Agree with all of that. But I would say it is more to do with the development of a player and the tactics we play. The teams these youngsters play for do not play long ball tactics like we do, so there is no appeal for them to be loaned here - unless they play in certain position ie Grujic as a DM. This isnt a case of loaning out a player to anyone just to save on wages, these youngsters are loaned out to develop them to potentially step up into the first team or to sell them on for a profit. The parent club will therefore loan them out to a club that they think will help their development the most, which isn't going to be us in most cases.

do you think Cardiff struggle to attract players?

you look at Swansea who have signed 3 decent players this window and just about to complete the signing of the chelsea youngster who was on loan to charlton whose done very well this season, it seems we never seem to go for young exciting prem players on loan or we try and go for them but just cant get them to sign?

whats your thoughts?

Swansea have signed 3 unknown youth players

do you think Cardiff struggle to attract players?

you look at Swansea who have signed 3 decent players this window and just about to complete the signing of the chelsea youngster who was on loan to charlton whose done very well this season, it seems we never seem to go for young exciting prem players on loan or we try and go for them but just cant get them to sign?

whats your thoughts?

Swansea have signed 3 unknown youth players

well there not unknown are they.. the lad from charlton has been very impressive this season.

rather go for these type of players who are highly rated instead of kieffer moore

The heading of this post is a question which no-one seems to be answering. The answer is yes, we do struggle to attract players, but I, like others, don't know the reason - possibly the way we play?

The heading of this post is a question which no-one seems to be answering. The answer is yes, we do struggle to attract players, but I, like others, don't know the reason - possibly the way we play?

I think the OP was mostly talking about signing young fringe players from the top 6 which I think has been answered tbh..
clubs are particular in where they send these youngsters for their development and we just do not fit the criteria with our more direct style ..
how this all works out for them down the road is another matter.. haven't they already got loads of young inexperienced kids in their 1st team ?

I think we struggle to attract players at a decent price. just my opinion, but our club has gained a reputation for paying over the top prices, & over the top wages, to players many of which were, quite frankly average. This situation has gone on for the last twenty years. The transfer "committee" at Cardiff City FC leaves a lot to be desired, IMO.

One of the reasons that used to be put forward for our inability to attract players was the city's geographical location. By and large I no longer believe that to be a major factor although the pull of London and surrounding areas is still undeniably strong. Certainly if the major London-based clubs are looking to offload players, teams such as Brentford and Reading are ideally placed to benefit from their location. Going back a few years, James Harper preferred Reading to the City, even though he played a few games for us whilst on loan from Arsenal.

Like others have stipulated on here, there are multiple reasons why we are way down in the pecking order when it comes to being an attractive proposition. However, if and when we eventually get the structure of the club right...director of football, knowledgeable football men on the board and a commitment to develop young players, that would be a major step forward in attracting the type of players who would take the club forward and more importantly help to sustain our success.

The heading of this post is a question which no-one seems to be answering. The answer is yes, we do struggle to attract players, but I, like others, don't know the reason - possibly the way we play?

I think the OP was mostly talking about signing young fringe players from the top 6 which I think has been answered tbh..
clubs are particular in where they send these youngsters for their development and we just do not fit the criteria with our more direct style ..
how this all works out for them down the road is another matter.. haven't they already got loads of young inexperienced kids in their 1st team ?

Your right clubs are particular where they send players, as for them down rd besides youngsters signed for them they do have around 4 on loan as well! Short term gain possibly! But That is not what we appear to be looking for at moment maybe the summer be different..