Why no money

Can anybody explain adjust got relegated 3or 4 points off too 6 and we got no money unless we sell don't know we're we going seems no ambishon

Can anybody explain adjust got relegated 3or 4 points off too 6 and we got no money unless we sell don't know we're we going seems no ambishon

Because we have a squad that is too big.

But unfortunately it’s a big squad of squad players

And we have spent 15 million this season already .
People think because it's a new window that money spent 6 months ago doesnt count

Flint, Glatzel, Pack, Whyte. Sir Neil heavily backed.

If we don't invest now weve got a squad of good players and sky money it's a long road back of we dont

If we don't invest now weve got a squad of good players and sky money it's a long road back of we dont

Totally agree

Crowds will be a lot less next season .

We have spent nothing really this season, we received far more money than we spent out .

Can anybody explain adjust got relegated 3or 4 points off too 6 and we got no money unless we sell don't know we're we going seems no ambishon

We have been here before with Sell before we Buy ... and that was before a ball was kicked a few seasons ago !

New training grounds don’t come cheap.

Flint, Glatzel, Pack, Whyte. Sir Neil heavily backed.

is this a joke ?
we lost 3 loanees...Gunnerson , reid..zohore..manga and knew Sol would be months if at all...
and the manager had 15 million which was less than the incoming fees to spread across all the gaps...
yes flint glatzel etc..who the hell did you expect for that budget ? and to be honest the new manager is playing them so they cant be awful just not the top end players ..THAT COST MORE..

I’m comfortable in trying to reduce the wage bill, whatever it takes to make our club sensibly sustainable. Also if the direction is investing in the academy, scouting, facilities etc, I am all for that instead of big wage packets for loanees and journeymen. This window, I would look to find another club for both our keepers particularly the high earner Smithies, also Connolly, Vassell, Bogle. Then Try and bring in some fresh talent from League 1 , Scotland or Europe on sensible contracts, get them to put pressure on players to hold on to the shirt, also try out some young players, in the summer find clubs for Flint, Peltier, Pack, Murphy, Hoilett, Ward. That might see Tan provide a more generous and ambitious transfer kitty to replace them . All easier said than done of course, as the current window proves, I think wheeling and dealing has become more difficult than ever for clubs and agents.

I do see the temptation of offering a juicy package for Dwight Gayle etc, but I just feel next season is the year to go for it, and lay foundations for that now, next time we get to the prem I want to stay there.

I’m comfortable in trying to reduce the wage bill, whatever it takes to make our club sensibly sustainable. Also if the direction is investing in the academy, scouting, facilities etc, I am all for that instead of big wage packets for loanees and journeymen. This window, I would look to find another club for both our keepers particularly the high earner Smithies, also Connolly, Vassell, Bogle. Then Try and bring in some fresh talent from League 1 , Scotland or Europe on sensible contracts, get them to put pressure on players to hold on to the shirt, also try out some young players, in the summer find clubs for Flint, Peltier, Pack, Murphy, Hoilett, Ward. That might see Tan provide a more generous and ambitious transfer kitty to replace them . All easier said than done of course, as the current window proves, I think wheeling and dealing has become more difficult than ever for clubs and agents.

I do see the temptation of offering a juicy package for Dwight Gayle etc, but I just feel next season is the year to go for it, and lay foundations for that now, next time we get to the prem I want to stay there.

I think that if we got rid of both of our keepers and relied on Joe Day we could end up in League 1 next season

We also don't seem to have any scouting system in place which is able to identify the fresh talent that you mention.

As far as going for it next year is concerned I just can't see it happening. I think I'm right in saying that we have no parachute payments next season so if the club are not willing to spend any money when the parachute payments are coming in I can't see any significant investment in the playing squad next season.

Assuming the club becomes self sustaining where will the money come from then to invest in players?

I’m comfortable in trying to reduce the wage bill, whatever it takes to make our club sensibly sustainable. Also if the direction is investing in the academy, scouting, facilities etc, I am all for that instead of big wage packets for loanees and journeymen. This window, I would look to find another club for both our keepers particularly the high earner Smithies, also Connolly, Vassell, Bogle. Then Try and bring in some fresh talent from League 1 , Scotland or Europe on sensible contracts, get them to put pressure on players to hold on to the shirt, also try out some young players, in the summer find clubs for Flint, Peltier, Pack, Murphy, Hoilett, Ward. That might see Tan provide a more generous and ambitious transfer kitty to replace them . All easier said than done of course, as the current window proves, I think wheeling and dealing has become more difficult than ever for clubs and agents.

I do see the temptation of offering a juicy package for Dwight Gayle etc, but I just feel next season is the year to go for it, and lay foundations for that now, next time we get to the prem I want to stay there.

I think that if we got rid of both of our keepers and relied on Joe Day we could end up in League 1 next season

We also don't seem to have any scouting system in place which is able to identify the fresh talent that you mention.

As far as going for it next year is concerned I just can't see it happening. I think I'm right in saying that we have no parachute payments next season so if the club are not willing to spend any money when the parachute payments are coming in I can't see any significant investment in the playing squad next season.

Assuming the club becomes self sustaining where will the money come from then to invest in players?

No I wouldn’t rely on Joe Day, 8 million for Etheridge, saving 1.5 million pa on Smithies. We could use half that to buy a decent keeper with better distribution, on half of Smithies wage. I’m sure we could come close to that. Yes I think we could go for it next season, we are not far away from play offs now, I think the money we could generate on saved wages and transfer fees on the mentioned players , around half that to bring in some fresh affordable talent and good loan packages. Getting that elusive 15 goal plus a season striker will always be a problem for every club. I want more money used on scouting and the academy. Maybe if that happens and there’s a year or two of a settled playing squad on sensible wages, improvements in our scouting and academy, maybe Tan will feel tempted to put his hand in his pocket again, or find someone else who can. I mean Brentford haven’t spent loads, somethings going right there. Just think we should cap contract wages at 20k for a season or two, allow a bit more to spend on good loanees who can make a difference. It sounds so easy doesn’t it ! Finding clubs for players who have families just settling in the area etc

Flint, Glatzel, Pack, Whyte. Sir Neil heavily backed.

All the incomings were offset by the sale of Zohore, etc. Would guess that the 15m parachute payment has been barely touched.

Flint, Glatzel, Pack, Whyte. Sir Neil heavily backed.

All the incomings were offset by the sale of Zohore, etc. Would guess that the 15m parachute payment has been barely touched.

The Sala case has definitely affected spending this season. We have potentially got a £15mill bill to pay. The sooner it is settled, whether we are ordered to pay or not, the better for the club.

How much tv money did we get for premier games ? i think that would cover a bit of dabling in this window.

I’m comfortable in trying to reduce the wage bill, whatever it takes to make our club sensibly sustainable. Also if the direction is investing in the academy, scouting, facilities etc, I am all for that instead of big wage packets for loanees and journeymen. This window, I would look to find another club for both our keepers particularly the high earner Smithies, also Connolly, Vassell, Bogle. Then Try and bring in some fresh talent from League 1 , Scotland or Europe on sensible contracts, get them to put pressure on players to hold on to the shirt, also try out some young players, in the summer find clubs for Flint, Peltier, Pack, Murphy, Hoilett, Ward. That might see Tan provide a more generous and ambitious transfer kitty to replace them . All easier said than done of course, as the current window proves, I think wheeling and dealing has become more difficult than ever for clubs and agents.

I do see the temptation of offering a juicy package for Dwight Gayle etc, but I just feel next season is the year to go for it, and lay foundations for that now, next time we get to the prem I want to stay there.

I think that if we got rid of both of our keepers and relied on Joe Day we could end up in League 1 next season

We also don't seem to have any scouting system in place which is able to identify the fresh talent that you mention.

As far as going for it next year is concerned I just can't see it happening. I think I'm right in saying that we have no parachute payments next season so if the club are not willing to spend any money when the parachute payments are coming in I can't see any significant investment in the playing squad next season.

Assuming the club becomes self sustaining where will the money come from then to invest in players?

No I wouldn’t rely on Joe Day, 8 million for Etheridge, saving 1.5 million pa on Smithies. We could use half that to buy a decent keeper with better distribution, on half of Smithies wage. I’m sure we could come close to that. Yes I think we could go for it next season, we are not far away from play offs now, I think the money we could generate on saved wages and transfer fees on the mentioned players , around half that to bring in some fresh affordable talent and good loan packages. Getting that elusive 15 goal plus a season striker will always be a problem for every club. I want more money used on scouting and the academy. Maybe if that happens and there’s a year or two of a settled playing squad on sensible wages, improvements in our scouting and academy, maybe Tan will feel tempted to put his hand in his pocket again, or find someone else who can. I mean Brentford haven’t spent loads, somethings going right there. Just think we should cap contract wages at 20k for a season or two, allow a bit more to spend on good loanees who can make a difference. It sounds so easy doesn’t it ! Finding clubs for players who have families just settling in the area etc

So you want the club to operate in a sustainable way but still expect them to improve the scouting and youth set up, improve the training facilities as well as replacing 11 players you've named as well as buying a 15+ goal scoring striker?

Brentford have been building for quite a few seasons now and have done well with buying players, selling them on for profit and reinvesting the money. Whilst I agree we should be aiming for a lot you have said, but you are looking at a 3-5 year plan, not an over the summer fix.

I’m comfortable in trying to reduce the wage bill, whatever it takes to make our club sensibly sustainable. Also if the direction is investing in the academy, scouting, facilities etc, I am all for that instead of big wage packets for loanees and journeymen. This window, I would look to find another club for both our keepers particularly the high earner Smithies, also Connolly, Vassell, Bogle. Then Try and bring in some fresh talent from League 1 , Scotland or Europe on sensible contracts, get them to put pressure on players to hold on to the shirt, also try out some young players, in the summer find clubs for Flint, Peltier, Pack, Murphy, Hoilett, Ward. That might see Tan provide a more generous and ambitious transfer kitty to replace them . All easier said than done of course, as the current window proves, I think wheeling and dealing has become more difficult than ever for clubs and agents.

I do see the temptation of offering a juicy package for Dwight Gayle etc, but I just feel next season is the year to go for it, and lay foundations for that now, next time we get to the prem I want to stay there.

I think that if we got rid of both of our keepers and relied on Joe Day we could end up in League 1 next season

We also don't seem to have any scouting system in place which is able to identify the fresh talent that you mention.

As far as going for it next year is concerned I just can't see it happening. I think I'm right in saying that we have no parachute payments next season so if the club are not willing to spend any money when the parachute payments are coming in I can't see any significant investment in the playing squad next season.

Assuming the club becomes self sustaining where will the money come from then to invest in players?

No I wouldn’t rely on Joe Day, 8 million for Etheridge, saving 1.5 million pa on Smithies. We could use half that to buy a decent keeper with better distribution, on half of Smithies wage. I’m sure we could come close to that. Yes I think we could go for it next season, we are not far away from play offs now, I think the money we could generate on saved wages and transfer fees on the mentioned players , around half that to bring in some fresh affordable talent and good loan packages. Getting that elusive 15 goal plus a season striker will always be a problem for every club. I want more money used on scouting and the academy. Maybe if that happens and there’s a year or two of a settled playing squad on sensible wages, improvements in our scouting and academy, maybe Tan will feel tempted to put his hand in his pocket again, or find someone else who can. I mean Brentford haven’t spent loads, somethings going right there. Just think we should cap contract wages at 20k for a season or two, allow a bit more to spend on good loanees who can make a difference. It sounds so easy doesn’t it ! Finding clubs for players who have families just settling in the area etc

if Carlsburg played FIFA 2020.

Flint, Glatzel, Pack, Whyte. Sir Neil heavily backed.

All the incomings were offset by the sale of Zohore, etc. Would guess that the 15m parachute payment has been barely touched.

Have to take into consideration we did not start out with a zero figure on the balance sheets. The last set of accounts showed an unhealthy figure of many millions with a minus sign before it. Don't know what the current debt is, be interesting to see the next set of published accounts.

Have to take into consideration we did not start out with a zero figure on the balance sheets. The last set of accounts showed an unhealthy figure of many millions with a minus sign before it. Don't know what the current debt is, be interesting to see the next set of published accounts.

Steve according to Companies House the next set of accounts (which will include the PL year) are due to be filed no later than 29 February 2020. So in just over a month we should no how much we made out of the PL.

Flint, Glatzel, Pack, Whyte. Sir Neil heavily backed.

All the incomings were offset by the sale of Zohore, etc. Would guess that the 15m parachute payment has been barely touched.

Have to take into consideration we did not start out with a zero figure on the balance sheets. The last set of accounts showed an unhealthy figure of many millions with a minus sign before it. Don't know what the current debt is, be interesting to see the next set of published accounts.

god knows where the money goes, I know what the accounts say but its difficult to see that enormous wage bill { its been huge now for years and years } when watching from the stands.. and that's not just this manager or the previous one..

god knows where the money goes, I know what the accounts say but its difficult to see that enormous wage bill { its been huge now for years and years } when watching from the stands.. and that's not just this manager or the previous one..

According to the last set of accounts the wage bill was £31.2m for 2018 (the promotion season). The previous season (2017) it was £20.6m. The increase of £10.6m was due to player bonuses for reaching the PL.

I can remember the Ridsdale years where the wage bill was also around £20m and we were paying out in wages more than we were receiving in income! No wonder we were in so much shit. So for 10 years these players have received a total of around £200m in wages and for 8 of those seasons you have to question what did we get in return?

Have to take into consideration we did not start out with a zero figure on the balance sheets. The last set of accounts showed an unhealthy figure of many millions with a minus sign before it. Don't know what the current debt is, be interesting to see the next set of published accounts.

Steve according to Companies House the next set of accounts (which will include the PL year) are due to be filed no later than 29 February 2020. So in just over a month we should no how much we made out of the PL.

Cheers Tony. Be interesting to see where the club stands.

Flint, Glatzel, Pack, Whyte. Sir Neil heavily backed.

All the incomings were offset by the sale of Zohore, etc. Would guess that the 15m parachute payment has been barely touched.

Have to take into consideration we did not start out with a zero figure on the balance sheets. The last set of accounts showed an unhealthy figure of many millions with a minus sign before it. Don't know what the current debt is, be interesting to see the next set of published accounts.

god knows where the money goes, I know what the accounts say but its difficult to see that enormous wage bill { its been huge now for years and years } when watching from the stands.. and that's not just this manager or the previous one..

Tan wants out, and has been trying to sell up for the last few years .
The problem City have is, Tan & Co got us in to a near £200mill debt and 10 yrs later we are still quite big in debt.

Ken Choo & Dalman live in London and City pay for everything .

City’s outgoings need to be reduced drastically off the pitch as well.

And we have spent 15 million this season already .
People think because it's a new window that money spent 6 months ago doesnt count

Not spent that well either, flint and glatzel? Hmmmm...could have maybe bought a decent midfielder for that like cam, between him Tomlin and ralls surely any c**t could knock in a few

Flint, Glatzel, Pack, Whyte. Sir Neil heavily backed.

All the incomings were offset by the sale of Zohore, etc. Would guess that the 15m parachute payment has been barely touched.

Have to take into consideration we did not start out with a zero figure on the balance sheets. The last set of accounts showed an unhealthy figure of many millions with a minus sign before it. Don't know what the current debt is, be interesting to see the next set of published accounts.

god knows where the money goes, I know what the accounts say but its difficult to see that enormous wage bill { its been huge now for years and years } when watching from the stands.. and that's not just this manager or the previous one..

Tan wants out, and has been trying to sell up for the last few years .
The problem City have is, Tan & Co got us in to a near £200mill debt and 10 yrs later we are still quite big in debt.

Ken Choo & Dalman live in London and City pay for everything .

City’s outgoings need to be reduced drastically off the pitch as well.

to be fair mate the biggest chunk of debt came with our first promotion.. was what the majority of fans initially accepted as part of the whole red fiasco...he was of the opinion that red could work long term when the reality was people wanted both investment and BLUE and the minute we hit a bump he would be in trouble over the colour...poorly advised
fully agree that money is being spent that's going on things other than the first team and its been my opinion for years that the first team should come first....everything else ?..well it should follow if we became a Premier league club properly..