Ambition

If we had ambition we would be going wor Gayle or even billy sharpe would fire us into the playoffs 2 proven goal scorers at championship level

If we had ambition we would be going wor Gayle or even billy sharpe would fire us into the playoffs 2 proven goal scorers at championship level

Gayle is on 60k a week at Newcastle....

Plus Newcastle want £20m if the club he goes to gets promoted. Loan club has to pay his wages in full

This thread just about sums up what I put in earlier thread? People don't want this player that player because hes a reject or not good enough! But ask why are we not going for Gayle Sharpe ect ect? Simple really to expensive and not going to happen ! We will not sign anyone of note fans either except that or they will be disappointed waiting for messi bale or Ronaldo to sign for us...

PEMBROKE ALLAN

We have not spent on anyone of note since we came back down from the prem,
the 5 million we spent on glatzel was that the best that was around for that money i am sure there was a quick young striker we could have got for that sort of money from abroad, our transfers have been diabolical since we came down.

PEMBROKE ALLAN

We have not spent on anyone of note since we came back down from the prem,
the 5 million we spent on glatzel was that the best that was around for that money i am sure there was a quick young striker we could have got for that sort of money from abroad, our transfers have been diabolical since we came down.

diabolical ffs..we have had decent value for money the players bought pretty much all play. you get what you pay for
all this, that sort of money nonsense..5million really isn't a big fee ,especially for a striker , what you get for that is a massive gamble.

PEMBROKE ALLAN

We have not spent on anyone of note since we came back down from the prem,
the 5 million we spent on glatzel was that the best that was around for that money i am sure there was a quick young striker we could have got for that sort of money from abroad, our transfers have been diabolical since we came down.

diabolical ffs..we have had decent value for money the players bought pretty much all play. you get what you pay for
all this, that sort of money nonsense..5million really isn't a big fee ,especially for a striker , what you get for that is a massive gamble.

Just because they play doesn't mean they are good enough or we did good business. Recruitment over the summer was shocking. Which is why we have a large and unbalanced squad that has little pace or real quality in it.

Tan's ambition is to see the club debt free and running within it's means. He stepped in to save us from going into administration, and has pumped a lot of his money into the club. Unless there is some rich billionaire out there who is prepared to pump millions more into the club, we just have to accept that Tan is not going to take a gamble which could well fail, adding millions more to the debt. Hopefully, there will be something available to strengthen the squad, but I doubt if we will see any big name signings during the next two weeks.
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PEMBROKE ALLAN

We have not spent on anyone of note since we came back down from the prem,
the 5 million we spent on glatzel was that the best that was around for that money i am sure there was a quick young striker we could have got for that sort of money from abroad, our transfers have been diabolical since we came down.

diabolical ffs..we have had decent value for money the players bought pretty much all play. you get what you pay for
all this, that sort of money nonsense..5million really isn't a big fee ,especially for a striker , what you get for that is a massive gamble.

Just because they play doesn't mean they are good enough or we did good business. Recruitment over the summer was shocking. Which is why we have a large and unbalanced squad that has little pace or real quality in it.

well good enough .. they arnt good enough to be top end championship I agree
but no mate, the budget was shocking.. we had holes to fill pretty much everywhere and had 15 mill to spend.. it aint enough to bring in top championship players
I don't get this large unbalanced squad thing either.. large, yes if your counting the likes of b murphy and traore who were emergency short term cover.. and Brown who hasn't even made his debut..
in the league we have used 26 {3 keepers which is rare } and that's very much everyone ..randomly looking..leeds have used 23, Fulham 24 ,Brentford 26.. stoke 27..ours is hardly out of sinc ? balance of squad ? that's a manager choice an opinion. different managers/ people will have different opinions ,you see that on here, we need a striker some will say, who will also say its unbalanced and we have too many. ..a manager is no different, if you need one and cant shift one ,what exactly do you do... most would get the extra ?

Tan's ambition is to see the club debt free and running within it's means. He stepped in to save us from going into administration, and has pumped a lot of his money into the club. Unless there is some rich billionaire out there who is prepared to pump millions more into the club, we just have to accept that Tan is not going to take a gamble which could well fail, adding millions more to the debt. Hopefully, there will be something available to strengthen the squad, but I doubt if we will see any big name signings during the next two weeks.
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This is a far too sensible post Steve.
Seriously, this should be a constant sticky so that we can direct any threads like this to 'Look at the stcky at top of page'.

Tan's ambition is to see the club debt free and running within it's means. He stepped in to save us from going into administration, and has pumped a lot of his money into the club. Unless there is some rich billionaire out there who is prepared to pump millions more into the club, we just have to accept that Tan is not going to take a gamble which could well fail, adding millions more to the debt. Hopefully, there will be something available to strengthen the squad, but I doubt if we will see any big name signings during the next two weeks.
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I do agree
which does mean from a purely football perspective there is little ambition..
its seems to be enough to keep us away from danger but not enough to be serious contenders.

If we had ambition we would be going wor Gayle or even billy sharpe would fire us into the playoffs 2 proven goal scorers at championship level

You've really thought about this haven't you.

PEMBROKE ALLAN

We have not spent on anyone of note since we came back down from the prem,
the 5 million we spent on glatzel was that the best that was around for that money i am sure there was a quick young striker we could have got for that sort of money from abroad, our transfers have been diabolical since we came down.

diabolical ffs..we have had decent value for money the players bought pretty much all play. you get what you pay for
all this, that sort of money nonsense..5million really isn't a big fee ,especially for a striker , what you get for that is a massive gamble.

I fully agree £5m is nothing in the transfer market. Indeed the way the TM works it is perfectly possible to pick up a much better striker for nothing or very little in cash terms depending on their contract length or club they play for.

Being able to spot those bargains is the holy grail of scouting and recruitment. Whilst we have showed some improvement with NML & NE recently our record hasn't been very good once fees become involved. If we are to progress as a club we must improve in this area.

PEMBROKE ALLAN

We have not spent on anyone of note since we came back down from the prem,
the 5 million we spent on glatzel was that the best that was around for that money i am sure there was a quick young striker we could have got for that sort of money from abroad, our transfers have been diabolical since we came down.

diabolical ffs..we have had decent value for money the players bought pretty much all play. you get what you pay for
all this, that sort of money nonsense..5million really isn't a big fee ,especially for a striker , what you get for that is a massive gamble.

I fully agree £5m is nothing in the transfer market. Indeed the way the TM works it is perfectly possible to pick up a much better striker for nothing or very little in cash terms depending on their contract length or club they play for.

Being able to spot those bargains is the holy grail of scouting and recruitment. Whilst we have showed some improvement with NML & NE recently our record hasn't been very good once fees become involved. If we are to progress as a club we must improve in this area.

yes you can pick players up on free transfers but they are often not what they seem and are not really free at all..
the one that's always stuck with me was when we failed to sign bafitinbi gomis for 10 mill.. 18 months later and out of contract he signs for Swansea for free { £8 million signing on fee }.
anyway , my 5 mill remark was about normal transfers where the player still has a decent contract to see out..

Tan's ambition is to see the club debt free and running within it's means. He stepped in to save us from going into administration, and has pumped a lot of his money into the club. Unless there is some rich billionaire out there who is prepared to pump millions more into the club, we just have to accept that Tan is not going to take a gamble which could well fail, adding millions more to the debt. Hopefully, there will be something available to strengthen the squad, but I doubt if we will see any big name signings during the next two weeks.
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I do agree
which does mean from a purely football perspective there is little ambition..
its seems to be enough to keep us away from danger but not enough to be serious contenders.

It appears that way. I suppose on the plus side it could be worse, we could be Bolton.

Tan's ambition is to see the club debt free and running within it's means. He stepped in to save us from going into administration, and has pumped a lot of his money into the club. Unless there is some rich billionaire out there who is prepared to pump millions more into the club, we just have to accept that Tan is not going to take a gamble which could well fail, adding millions more to the debt. Hopefully, there will be something available to strengthen the squad, but I doubt if we will see any big name signings during the next two weeks.
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I do agree
which does mean from a purely football perspective there is little ambition..
its seems to be enough to keep us away from danger but not enough to be serious contenders.

It appears that way. I suppose on the plus side it could be worse, we could be Bolton.

im old enough to realise that and lets be honest if Tan left ,then what ? .. I do understand the frustrations of our younger/ newer fans though .

Tan's ambition is to see the club debt free and running within it's means. He stepped in to save us from going into administration, and has pumped a lot of his money into the club. Unless there is some rich billionaire out there who is prepared to pump millions more into the club, we just have to accept that Tan is not going to take a gamble which could well fail, adding millions more to the debt. Hopefully, there will be something available to strengthen the squad, but I doubt if we will see any big name signings during the next two weeks.
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I do agree
which does mean from a purely football perspective there is little ambition..
its seems to be enough to keep us away from danger but not enough to be serious contenders.

And there you have it. Two posts which sum up exactly the way I see things at the club.

I also believe that if Tan could get out tomorrow he would but to give him his due he is an n honourable man who would not walk out and just leave us in the shit.

We have to accept I think that the club will only really move forward in a footballing sense when the current regime comes to an end - and that's assuming we get decent owners next time which is by no means certain!

Tan's ambition is to see the club debt free and running within it's means. He stepped in to save us from going into administration, and has pumped a lot of his money into the club. Unless there is some rich billionaire out there who is prepared to pump millions more into the club, we just have to accept that Tan is not going to take a gamble which could well fail, adding millions more to the debt. Hopefully, there will be something available to strengthen the squad, but I doubt if we will see any big name signings during the next two weeks.
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Steve,

Tan made most of the near £200 mill debt by bad management.

After 10 years in total charge and 2 seasons in the Premier League, we should be debt free by now.

For me the club is spending not on the right things and many debts are occurring not to do with players.

Tan's ambition is to see the club debt free and running within it's means. He stepped in to save us from going into administration, and has pumped a lot of his money into the club. Unless there is some rich billionaire out there who is prepared to pump millions more into the club, we just have to accept that Tan is not going to take a gamble which could well fail, adding millions more to the debt. Hopefully, there will be something available to strengthen the squad, but I doubt if we will see any big name signings during the next two weeks.
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Steve,

Tan made most of the near £200 mill debt by bad management.

After 10 years in total charge and 2 seasons in the Premier League, we should be debt free by now.

For me the club is spending not on the right things and many debts are occurring not to do with players.

He has certainly made mistakes, the biggest one was the red kit fiasco. I think to be fair, he was persuaded to come here when the club desperately needed some financial backing, when administration looked a possibility. I think Tan would be the first to admit that his knowledge of football was limited, and he was reliant on help and advice from others. It looks as if he trusted Malky and later Warnock to use his cash sensibly, and that may have been an error of judgement. There were not many complaints from fans when our managers were spending money as if it was going out of fashion. At least you and me had the opportunity to watch top flight football for the first time since we began following the club, and for both of us, that goes back a long way. I have been one of his biggest critics over the years, but have said that sometimes you can only judge an owner by the state of the club when he arrives compared to how it is when he leaves. I suppose that still stands for me, but for now it looks as if cash will be tight because of mistakes made by various people since Tan took over. I guess the buck stops with the man at the top.