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Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:04 pm

Bluedodo wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Orgz wrote:Basically your observations were correct

On tv & radio the Jacks appeared louder for the reasons I stated. Thats how we work in live broadcast.

But in the ground not very loud at all, very poor compared to most away supports that come to CCS.


And in the ground by many accounts. I’m afraid your explanation isn’t stacking up.

25,000+ fans vs 2,000 and your excuse is the positioning of a microphone.

Nah.


Feck me he's now arguing with a guy who is clearly a specialist in the field.

Roathie gets better and bettet ha ha

He's a huge tool that thinks everything he says is right and twists everything to suit his narrative.
He's nothing but a little loser that spends all his time on a rivals forum because his parents didnt love him growing up so he needs to find attention elsewhere.
Its kinda sad really and i genuinely pity him.

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:04 pm

welshcasual wrote:
Orgz wrote:Basically you get self gratification from trying to wind up others. Its really negative. And borderline mental illness


Which part of what I said is winding you up then?

I have stated common sense throughout.




No. You haven't. Common sense would be answering the op question. You still have not

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:05 pm

103 Barmy Army wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
103 Barmy Army wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
103 Barmy Army wrote:I was quite happy with my “England, England give us a song” chant taking off in the Canton after witnessing the UJ. :lol:

Thought the Jacks were the loudest away fans to visit this season prior to kick off, the first 5 minutes and after the game had ended. The remainder, they were generally quiet, but credit where credit is due for their behaviour during the minutes applause. :thumbright:

Good vocal support from the Canton Stand today, however the Ninian Park days of all four stands singing are a long distant memory.


It is a British flag not an English one.


Genuine question. As someone who for personal reasons has the utmost respect for the UJ (despite it having zero representation of Wales), why do Swansea choose it over a Welsh flag?


“Swansea” don’t as such. There are a few supporters that are proud to be British and have a couple of flags.

You will see more Welsh flags than anything else at Swansea home games.



You didn't answer his question. They are at Swansea games only in wales and not cardiff games. So why at swansea?


I’m intrigued to know if Swansea fans supporting a Welsh club also take the UJ - which has an English representation, but as we’ve established not a Welsh one - to away games against English opposition? I’m confident they do.

For what it’s worth, I am fiercely proud of being British, but if the answer to the aforementioned question is yes, I can’t get my head around that from a sporting spectators perspective.


Some do I’m sure. But again it isn’t an English flag.

Flags aren’t designed to be the opposite of the team you play, they are a representation of personal identity. Those that own union jacks are proud of their British identity.

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:05 pm

Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Orgz wrote:Basically you get self gratification from trying to wind up others. Its really negative. And borderline mental illness


Which part of what I said is winding you up then?

I have stated common sense throughout.




No. You haven't. Common sense would be answering the op question. You still have not


Which I did, twice. Your are just confused by it, like you are with lyrics :laughing6:

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:06 pm

Bluebird1990 wrote:
Bluedodo wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Orgz wrote:Basically your observations were correct

On tv & radio the Jacks appeared louder for the reasons I stated. Thats how we work in live broadcast.

But in the ground not very loud at all, very poor compared to most away supports that come to CCS.


And in the ground by many accounts. I’m afraid your explanation isn’t stacking up.

25,000+ fans vs 2,000 and your excuse is the positioning of a microphone.

Nah.


Feck me he's now arguing with a guy who is clearly a specialist in the field.

Roathie gets better and bettet ha ha

He's a huge tool that thinks everything he says is right and twists everything to suit his narrative.
He's nothing but a little loser that spends all his time on a rivals forum because his parents didnt love him growing up so he needs to find attention elsewhere.
Its kinda sad really and i genuinely pity him.


...Says the furious emotional sap. :laughing6:

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:07 pm

I didnt say you were winding me
I said Others

Look you know what you are TRYING to do
But now its really boring
Negative and very sad
And like I said a borderline mental issue
Grow up mate ffs... please

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:07 pm

welshcasual wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Orgz wrote:Basically you get self gratification from trying to wind up others. Its really negative. And borderline mental illness


Which part of what I said is winding you up then?

I have stated common sense throughout.




No. You haven't. Common sense would be answering the op question. You still have not


Which I did, twice. Your are just confused by it, like you are with lyrics :laughing6:




You still haven't answered it though let's be honest.

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:07 pm

Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Orgz wrote:Basically you get self gratification from trying to wind up others. Its really negative. And borderline mental illness


Which part of what I said is winding you up then?

I have stated common sense throughout.




No. You haven't. Common sense would be answering the op question. You still have not


Which I did, twice. Your are just confused by it, like you are with lyrics :laughing6:




You still haven't answered it though let's be honest.


Have too.

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:09 pm

Orgz wrote:I didnt say you were winding me
I said Others

Look you know what you are TRYING to do
But now its really boring
Negative and very sad
And like I said a borderline mental issue
Grow up mate ffs... please


Ok so what have I said that is winding others up then?

The rest of your post is just regurgitated noise.

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:09 pm

welshcasual wrote:
Bluebird1990 wrote:
Bluedodo wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Orgz wrote:Basically your observations were correct

On tv & radio the Jacks appeared louder for the reasons I stated. Thats how we work in live broadcast.

But in the ground not very loud at all, very poor compared to most away supports that come to CCS.


And in the ground by many accounts. I’m afraid your explanation isn’t stacking up.

25,000+ fans vs 2,000 and your excuse is the positioning of a microphone.

Nah.


Feck me he's now arguing with a guy who is clearly a specialist in the field.

Roathie gets better and bettet ha ha

He's a huge tool that thinks everything he says is right and twists everything to suit his narrative.
He's nothing but a little loser that spends all his time on a rivals forum because his parents didnt love him growing up so he needs to find attention elsewhere.
Its kinda sad really and i genuinely pity him.


...Says the furious emotional sap. :laughing6:

Don't worry, im sure someone will love you one day.

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:09 pm

welshcasual wrote:
103 Barmy Army wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
103 Barmy Army wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
103 Barmy Army wrote:I was quite happy with my “England, England give us a song” chant taking off in the Canton after witnessing the UJ. :lol:

Thought the Jacks were the loudest away fans to visit this season prior to kick off, the first 5 minutes and after the game had ended. The remainder, they were generally quiet, but credit where credit is due for their behaviour during the minutes applause. :thumbright:

Good vocal support from the Canton Stand today, however the Ninian Park days of all four stands singing are a long distant memory.


It is a British flag not an English one.


Genuine question. As someone who for personal reasons has the utmost respect for the UJ (despite it having zero representation of Wales), why do Swansea choose it over a Welsh flag?


“Swansea” don’t as such. There are a few supporters that are proud to be British and have a couple of flags.

You will see more Welsh flags than anything else at Swansea home games.



You didn't answer his question. They are at Swansea games only in wales and not cardiff games. So why at swansea?


I’m intrigued to know if Swansea fans supporting a Welsh club also take the UJ - which has an English representation, but as we’ve established not a Welsh one - to away games against English opposition? I’m confident they do.

For what it’s worth, I am fiercely proud of being British, but if the answer to the aforementioned question is yes, I can’t get my head around that from a sporting spectators perspective.


Some do I’m sure. But again it isn’t an English flag.

Flags aren’t designed to be the opposite of the team you play, they are a representation of personal identity. Those that own union jacks are proud of their British identity.




One of those manipulation things here again. No one said it was an english flag. Like all other posts I suggest you go back. Take a deep breath and read again

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:10 pm

welshcasual wrote:
Orgz wrote:I didnt say you were winding me
I said Others

Look you know what you are TRYING to do
But now its really boring
Negative and very sad
And like I said a borderline mental issue
Grow up mate ffs... please


Ok so what have I said that is winding others up then?

The rest of your post is just regurgitated noise.




Yes. And it comes from you my little fishy

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:11 pm

Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
103 Barmy Army wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
103 Barmy Army wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
103 Barmy Army wrote:I was quite happy with my “England, England give us a song” chant taking off in the Canton after witnessing the UJ. :lol:

Thought the Jacks were the loudest away fans to visit this season prior to kick off, the first 5 minutes and after the game had ended. The remainder, they were generally quiet, but credit where credit is due for their behaviour during the minutes applause. :thumbright:

Good vocal support from the Canton Stand today, however the Ninian Park days of all four stands singing are a long distant memory.


It is a British flag not an English one.


Genuine question. As someone who for personal reasons has the utmost respect for the UJ (despite it having zero representation of Wales), why do Swansea choose it over a Welsh flag?


“Swansea” don’t as such. There are a few supporters that are proud to be British and have a couple of flags.

You will see more Welsh flags than anything else at Swansea home games.



You didn't answer his question. They are at Swansea games only in wales and not cardiff games. So why at swansea?


I’m intrigued to know if Swansea fans supporting a Welsh club also take the UJ - which has an English representation, but as we’ve established not a Welsh one - to away games against English opposition? I’m confident they do.

For what it’s worth, I am fiercely proud of being British, but if the answer to the aforementioned question is yes, I can’t get my head around that from a sporting spectators perspective.


Some do I’m sure. But again it isn’t an English flag.

Flags aren’t designed to be the opposite of the team you play, they are a representation of personal identity. Those that own union jacks are proud of their British identity.




One of those manipulation things here again. No one said it was an english flag. Like all other posts I suggest you go back. Take a deep breath and read again


Perfect, then we can all agree chanting England at it is senseless. :thumbright:

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:11 pm

Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Orgz wrote:I didnt say you were winding me
I said Others

Look you know what you are TRYING to do
But now its really boring
Negative and very sad
And like I said a borderline mental issue
Grow up mate ffs... please


Ok so what have I said that is winding others up then?

The rest of your post is just regurgitated noise.



Yes. And it comes from you my little fishy


What comes from me?

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:12 pm

Bluebird1990 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Bluebird1990 wrote:
Bluedodo wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Orgz wrote:Basically your observations were correct

On tv & radio the Jacks appeared louder for the reasons I stated. Thats how we work in live broadcast.

But in the ground not very loud at all, very poor compared to most away supports that come to CCS.


And in the ground by many accounts. I’m afraid your explanation isn’t stacking up.

25,000+ fans vs 2,000 and your excuse is the positioning of a microphone.

Nah.


Feck me he's now arguing with a guy who is clearly a specialist in the field.

Roathie gets better and bettet ha ha

He's a huge tool that thinks everything he says is right and twists everything to suit his narrative.
He's nothing but a little loser that spends all his time on a rivals forum because his parents didnt love him growing up so he needs to find attention elsewhere.
Its kinda sad really and i genuinely pity him.


...Says the furious emotional sap. :laughing6:

Don't worry, im sure someone will love you one day.


Thanks mate, great talk :laughing6:

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:13 pm

welshcasual wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Orgz wrote:I didnt say you were winding me
I said Others

Look you know what you are TRYING to do
But now its really boring
Negative and very sad
And like I said a borderline mental issue
Grow up mate ffs... please


Ok so what have I said that is winding others up then?

The rest of your post is just regurgitated noise.



Yes. And it comes from you my little fishy


What comes from me?




Regurgitated noise. Oh and bullshit. Lies. Manipulation. Contradiction. Food from your thai takeaway onto your keyboard. Just to name a few

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:14 pm

Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Orgz wrote:I didnt say you were winding me
I said Others

Look you know what you are TRYING to do
But now its really boring
Negative and very sad
And like I said a borderline mental issue
Grow up mate ffs... please


Ok so what have I said that is winding others up then?

The rest of your post is just regurgitated noise.



Yes. And it comes from you my little fishy


What comes from me?




Regurgitated noise. Oh and bullshit. Lies. Manipulation. Contradiction. Food from your thai takeaway onto your keyboard. Just to name a few


Really? You will have to show me that evidence so I can examine. As it stands I don’t believe you.

I just think you are lashing out as you are frustrated and emotional.
Last edited by welshcasual on Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:14 pm

Swansea scum up the arse of the English with their flags they don't realise the English hate them as much as us. Blakey and Walsh both said so yesterday as they both experienced it playing for English clubs.

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:15 pm

skiprat wrote:Swansea scum up the arse of the English with their flags they don't realise the English hate them as much as us. Blakey and Walsh both said so yesterday as they both experienced it playing for English clubs.


It’s a British flag not an English one.

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:20 pm

welshcasual wrote:
skiprat wrote:Swansea scum up the arse of the English with their flags they don't realise the English hate them as much as us. Blakey and Walsh both said so yesterday as they both experienced it playing for English clubs.


It’s a British flag not an English one.



But the English sing the British national anthem which I believe is "God save the queen" holding aloft the English and british flags. That is where the link is so answer the op question

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:22 pm

welshcasual wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Orgz wrote:I didnt say you were winding me
I said Others

Look you know what you are TRYING to do
But now its really boring
Negative and very sad
And like I said a borderline mental issue
Grow up mate ffs... please


Ok so what have I said that is winding others up then?

The rest of your post is just regurgitated noise.



Yes. And it comes from you my little fishy


What comes from me?




Regurgitated noise. Oh and bullshit. Lies. Manipulation. Contradiction. Food from your thai takeaway onto your keyboard. Just to name a few


Really? You will have to show me that evidence so I can examine. As it stands I don’t believe you.

I just think you are lashing out as you are frustrated and emotional.




Oh. Ok. Go to page one of this thread and scroll down a couple and look for Welshcasual. Read everything he has posted for multiple examples of aforementioned

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:24 pm

Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
skiprat wrote:Swansea scum up the arse of the English with their flags they don't realise the English hate them as much as us. Blakey and Walsh both said so yesterday as they both experienced it playing for English clubs.


It’s a British flag not an English one.



But the English sing the British national anthem which I believe is "God save the queen" holding aloft the English and british flags. That is where the link is so answer the op question


Doesn’t matter what they do, it still isn’t an English flag.

If welsh people hold up the British flag does that mean it’s a Welsh flag too?

He’s asked why some Swansea fans have them, I answered him twice.

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:25 pm

Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
Orgz wrote:I didnt say you were winding me
I said Others

Look you know what you are TRYING to do
But now its really boring
Negative and very sad
And like I said a borderline mental issue
Grow up mate ffs... please


Ok so what have I said that is winding others up then?

The rest of your post is just regurgitated noise.



Yes. And it comes from you my little fishy


What comes from me?




Regurgitated noise. Oh and bullshit. Lies. Manipulation. Contradiction. Food from your thai takeaway onto your keyboard. Just to name a few


Really? You will have to show me that evidence so I can examine. As it stands I don’t believe you.

I just think you are lashing out as you are frustrated and emotional.




Oh. Ok. Go to page one of this thread and scroll down a couple and look for Welshcasual. Read everything he has posted for multiple examples of aforementioned


Just did it, read a lot of sense.

Which posts are you referring to? I will have to examine these.

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:26 pm

Anyway Roathie. I'm bored of winding you up now as it's too easy. I'm off to my helicopter to my yacht ready to go up to Carlilse on wednesday. Good luck getting rid of your demons and remember...theres someone for everyone. You will soon be able to throw away your mums old catalogues

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:29 pm

Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:Anyway Roathie. I'm bored of winding you up now as it's too easy. I'm off to my helicopter to my yacht ready to go up to Carlilse on wednesday. Good luck getting rid of your demons and remember...theres someone for everyone. You will soon be able to throw away your mums old catalogues


Winding me up? Oh is that what you thought you were doing? :laughing6:

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:32 pm

welshcasual wrote:
103 Barmy Army wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
103 Barmy Army wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
103 Barmy Army wrote:I was quite happy with my “England, England give us a song” chant taking off in the Canton after witnessing the UJ. :lol:

Thought the Jacks were the loudest away fans to visit this season prior to kick off, the first 5 minutes and after the game had ended. The remainder, they were generally quiet, but credit where credit is due for their behaviour during the minutes applause. :thumbright:

Good vocal support from the Canton Stand today, however the Ninian Park days of all four stands singing are a long distant memory.


It is a British flag not an English one.


Genuine question. As someone who for personal reasons has the utmost respect for the UJ (despite it having zero representation of Wales), why do Swansea choose it over a Welsh flag?


“Swansea” don’t as such. There are a few supporters that are proud to be British and have a couple of flags.

You will see more Welsh flags than anything else at Swansea home games.



You didn't answer his question. They are at Swansea games only in wales and not cardiff games. So why at swansea?


I’m intrigued to know if Swansea fans supporting a Welsh club also take the UJ - which has an English representation, but as we’ve established not a Welsh one - to away games against English opposition? I’m confident they do.

For what it’s worth, I am fiercely proud of being British, but if the answer to the aforementioned question is yes, I can’t get my head around that from a sporting spectators perspective.


Some do I’m sure. But again it isn’t an English flag.

Flags aren’t designed to be the opposite of the team you play, they are a representation of personal identity. Those that own union jacks are proud of their British identity.


Identity? Including the symbolic Red Cross of St George element to represent England and overlooking the fact it has absolutely nothing to represent Wales. I can’t get my head around a Welsh person doing such a thing at a sporting event. Then again, I would expect to see an English Swansea fan with an English flag with Swansea City on as opposed to the UJ.

Whilst playing in the English football pyramid, you’re effectively supporting the opposition more than your own team, unless playing in Europe of course.

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:35 pm

103 Barmy Army wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
103 Barmy Army wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
103 Barmy Army wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
103 Barmy Army wrote:I was quite happy with my “England, England give us a song” chant taking off in the Canton after witnessing the UJ. :lol:

Thought the Jacks were the loudest away fans to visit this season prior to kick off, the first 5 minutes and after the game had ended. The remainder, they were generally quiet, but credit where credit is due for their behaviour during the minutes applause. :thumbright:

Good vocal support from the Canton Stand today, however the Ninian Park days of all four stands singing are a long distant memory.


It is a British flag not an English one.


Genuine question. As someone who for personal reasons has the utmost respect for the UJ (despite it having zero representation of Wales), why do Swansea choose it over a Welsh flag?


“Swansea” don’t as such. There are a few supporters that are proud to be British and have a couple of flags.

You will see more Welsh flags than anything else at Swansea home games.



You didn't answer his question. They are at Swansea games only in wales and not cardiff games. So why at swansea?


I’m intrigued to know if Swansea fans supporting a Welsh club also take the UJ - which has an English representation, but as we’ve established not a Welsh one - to away games against English opposition? I’m confident they do.

For what it’s worth, I am fiercely proud of being British, but if the answer to the aforementioned question is yes, I can’t get my head around that from a sporting spectators perspective.


Some do I’m sure. But again it isn’t an English flag.

Flags aren’t designed to be the opposite of the team you play, they are a representation of personal identity. Those that own union jacks are proud of their British identity.


Identity? Including the symbolic Red Cross of St George element to represent England and overlooking the fact it has absolutely nothing to represent Wales. I can’t get my head around a Welsh person doing such a thing at a sporting event. Then again, I would expect to see an English Swansea fan with an English flag with Swansea City on as opposed to the UJ.

Whilst playing in the English football pyramid, you’re effectively supporting the opposition more than your own team, unless playing in Europe of course.


How do you know they are Welsh? Do you know them then?

Wales are part of Britain. Wales isn’t on the European flag either but they are in Europe.

Not sure what your hang up is with regards to a sporting event though, you seem to think a flag is a form of aggression, maybe others don’t use flags in that way?

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:47 pm

Canton104 wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Honestly I barely noticed them. On a par with Brewster.


They sang some repetitive crap over and over. I couldn’t hear it over the laughter from our fans at their Union flags.

Didn’t even notice Brewster was playing.


Brewsters is getting a wash in the Club washing machine, he’s still in Nelsons Pocket ;)

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:47 pm

welshcasual wrote:
Bluebird1990 wrote:
ccfcninian wrote:
Felixstowe_jack wrote:You would never think there were 26000 home fans at legoland today no support at all and 5000 empty seats.

It is now over six years since Cardiff scored against Swansea.

Head to head this century

Swansea won 5
3 draws
Cardiff won 3



Have a look at the stats on the overall meetings you thick fucker, Cardiff have more wins overall and still had better support than you scruffy shite, now f**k off back to that shithole of a town you came from

Its not his fault, he thinks football only started when Swansea were in the Prem


Not that much different are they? The record since English football records began...

68 meetings



28 wins Swansea
18 draws
22 wins Cardiff



This century or last century Swansea still ahead.

Re: ‘ The Jacks Today / Great Britain ‘

Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:49 pm

Ha ha ha
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