THE 100m POUND DERBY?

Cardiff City


1.Etheridge Free

2.Peltier Free

3.Bennett Free

4.Flint £4m

5.Nelson £0.2m

6.Pack £0.75m

7.Whyte £2m

8.Bacuna £3m

9.Glatzel £5m

10.Tomlin £3m

11.Holliet Free



Subs from;

Murphy £10m

Madine £6m

Vaulks £2m

Smithies £3.5m

Morrison £3.3m

Ward £1.6m

Bogle £0.75m

Paterson Free

Richards Free

Bamba Free


£45m approx


Scum


1.Woodman Loan

2.Naughton £6m

3.Bidwell Free

4.Cabango Free

5.Willmot Loan

6.Fulton £0.2m

7.Routledge £3m

8.Grimes £2m

9.Brewster Loan

10.Celina £3m

11.Ayew £20m


Subs from;



Borja £16m

Asora £2m

Roberts Free

Byers Free

Dyer £0.5m

Dhandra Free

Nordfeldt £0.75m

Peterson £0.5m

Mckay £0.5m

John. £0.8m

£55m approx

Madine has gone for a start

This just reminds me of 2011.

Swansea comfortably get past Forest to get to the play-off final.

We draw 0-0 away at Reading. Lose 3-0 at home after our players decided to have a booze up the night before.

I'm a fan of Howard Webb, but he had a bad game as well.

Swansea go on to beat Reading in the final and become the first Welsh team to reach the Premier League.

They've been ahead of us ever since then.

This just reminds me of 2011.

Swansea comfortably get past Forest to get to the play-off final.

We draw 0-0 away at Reading. Lose 3-0 at home after our players decided to have a booze up the night before.

I'm a fan of Howard Webb, but he had a bad game as well.

Swansea go on to beat Reading in the final and become the first Welsh team to reach the Premier League.

They've been ahead of us ever since then.

Wasnt we ahead last season and season before In league position at least? Anything else is matter of debate

This just reminds me of 2011.

Swansea comfortably get past Forest to get to the play-off final.

We draw 0-0 away at Reading. Lose 3-0 at home after our players decided to have a booze up the night before.

I'm a fan of Howard Webb, but he had a bad game as well.

Swansea go on to beat Reading in the final and become the first Welsh team to reach the Premier League.

They've been ahead of us ever since then.

Wasnt we ahead last season and season before In league position at least? Anything else is matter of debate

Question is what have we done compared to them in the last 20 years. We've won nothing and failed to survive one season in the top tier.

They won the League Cup and stayed in the Premier League for several years.

I really look forward to the day the tables turn, but right now we're behind them.

Never heard the pre reading game booze up story. Who was that then?

This just reminds me of 2011.

Swansea comfortably get past Forest to get to the play-off final.

We draw 0-0 away at Reading. Lose 3-0 at home after our players decided to have a booze up the night before.

I'm a fan of Howard Webb, but he had a bad game as well.

Swansea go on to beat Reading in the final and become the first Welsh team to reach the Premier League.

They've been ahead of us ever since then.

Wasnt we ahead last season and season before In league position at least? Anything else is matter of debate

Question is what have we done compared to them in the last 20 years. We've won nothing and failed to survive one season in the top tier.

They won the League Cup and stayed in the Premier League for several years.

I really look forward to the day the tables turn, but right now we're behind them.

Refreshing to read some sense on here regarding the subject. Genuinely

This just reminds me of 2011.

Swansea comfortably get past Forest to get to the play-off final.

We draw 0-0 away at Reading. Lose 3-0 at home after our players decided to have a booze up the night before.

I'm a fan of Howard Webb, but he had a bad game as well.

Swansea go on to beat Reading in the final and become the first Welsh team to reach the Premier League.

They've been ahead of us ever since then.

Wasnt we ahead last season and season before In league position at least? Anything else is matter of debate

Question is what have we done compared to them in the last 20 years. We've won nothing and failed to survive one season in the top tier.

They won the League Cup and stayed in the Premier League for several years.

I really look forward to the day the tables turn, but right now we're behind them.

Refreshing to read some sense on here regarding the subject. Genuinely

I agree. Until now with the Americans asset stripping the club they've been miles ahead of us.
We got to the play off final against one of the smallest budgets in the league and got beat. We got the League cup final, and the opposition captains cousin misses a penalty for us, we get beat.
They get to the play off final and win
They win the League cup.
We bought promotion the first time, spent big, rebranded, lost fortunes on players, made a mess of it and were a shambles for years. They went up on merit alone and were established, even making big profits on their best players.
We then went up on merit alone, spent modestly, put up a fight but ultimately came back down. We're now mid table, crap manager, no ambition from the board, looking at League one players.
They're above us in the league, and have the best chance in decades to be first to do the double, such is the mediocre level of our performances.

If they win tomorrow, history will be made, we'll never live it down.
If it wasn't for the Americans ruining them, we'd be a laughing stock to them.

All of the above are facts.
Painful but true.

I agree. Until now with the Americans asset stripping the club they've been miles ahead of us.
We got to the play off final against one of the smallest budgets in the league and got beat. We got the League cup final, and the opposition captains cousin misses a penalty for us, we get beat.
They get to the play off final and win
They win the League cup.
We bought promotion the first time, spent big, rebranded, lost fortunes on players, made a mess of it and were a shambles for years. They went up on merit alone and were established, even making big profits on their best players.
We then went up on merit alone, spent modestly, put up a fight but ultimately came back down. We're now mid table, crap manager, no ambition from the board, looking at League one players.
They're above us in the league, and have the best chance in decades to be first to do the double, such is the mediocre level of our performances.

If they win tomorrow, history will be made, we'll never live it down.
If it wasn't for the Americans ruining them, we'd be a laughing stock to them.

All of the above are facts.
Painful but true.

I agree with the most of what you say, except the American bit. Not sure what you think they have done that is ''ruining'' us.

I agree. Until now with the Americans asset stripping the club they've been miles ahead of us.
We got to the play off final against one of the smallest budgets in the league and got beat. We got the League cup final, and the opposition captains cousin misses a penalty for us, we get beat.
They get to the play off final and win
They win the League cup.
We bought promotion the first time, spent big, rebranded, lost fortunes on players, made a mess of it and were a shambles for years. They went up on merit alone and were established, even making big profits on their best players.
We then went up on merit alone, spent modestly, put up a fight but ultimately came back down. We're now mid table, crap manager, no ambition from the board, looking at League one players.
They're above us in the league, and have the best chance in decades to be first to do the double, such is the mediocre level of our performances.

If they win tomorrow, history will be made, we'll never live it down.
If it wasn't for the Americans ruining them, we'd be a laughing stock to them.

All of the above are facts.
Painful but true.

I agree with the most of what you say, except the American bit. Not sure what you think they have done that is ''ruining'' us.

Maybe ruining is too strong a word, or I've been misinformed, but I only go by what the Jacks in work say. Not one of them like the Americans. Before they came you were established, debt free, asset laden, fans trust in the boardroom. Playing well. Am I right in thinking you even did the double over Man U one year?
Since the Americans came, they've sold all your best players, took the tv money, parachute money, gave you Bob Bradley, got relegated, Uncle Hugh gone, show little respect for the supporters trust. Your attendance has dropped to 16k ish maybe?
My point is that since the Americans came you're now in no better position than we are, hence you can't point and laugh at us. Two or three years ago maybe, but not now. Thankfully.

I agree. Until now with the Americans asset stripping the club they've been miles ahead of us.
We got to the play off final against one of the smallest budgets in the league and got beat. We got the League cup final, and the opposition captains cousin misses a penalty for us, we get beat.
They get to the play off final and win
They win the League cup.
We bought promotion the first time, spent big, rebranded, lost fortunes on players, made a mess of it and were a shambles for years. They went up on merit alone and were established, even making big profits on their best players.
We then went up on merit alone, spent modestly, put up a fight but ultimately came back down. We're now mid table, crap manager, no ambition from the board, looking at League one players.
They're above us in the league, and have the best chance in decades to be first to do the double, such is the mediocre level of our performances.

If they win tomorrow, history will be made, we'll never live it down.
If it wasn't for the Americans ruining them, we'd be a laughing stock to them.

All of the above are facts.
Painful but true.

I agree with the most of what you say, except the American bit. Not sure what you think they have done that is ''ruining'' us.

Maybe ruining is too strong a word, or I've been misinformed, but I only go by what the Jacks in work say. Not one of them like the Americans. Before they came you were established, debt free, asset laden, fans trust in the boardroom. Playing well. Am I right in thinking you even did the double over Man U one year?
Since the Americans came, they've sold all your best players, took the tv money, parachute money, gave you Bob Bradley, got relegated, Uncle Hugh gone, show little respect for the supporters trust. Your attendance has dropped to 16k ish maybe?
My point is that since the Americans came you're now in no better position than we are, hence you can't point and laugh at us. Two or three years ago maybe, but not now. Thankfully.

Yes, I think at one stage we beat Man Utd 3 out of the last 4 times. We beat all of the big guns, most of them several times.

Our currently plight isn’t really anything to do with the Americans. We were reaching our peak in terms of what we could achieve anyway, the longer you stay at that level the more costs go up. Each season your top earner goes up and the squad go up with him. It isn’t really sustainable for clubs of our size, which is why the top 6/7 essentially stay the same and everyone else flitters between the leagues. When you are a club of our size (both of us) you can never be established in the true sense of the word, you are only one bad season away from relegation. To stay there for 7 years was an amazing achievement. We would have come back down regardless.

The Americans haven’t really done anything wrong. The way they took over the club was not great, the other mistake was appointing Bob Bradley but Guidolin kept us up. Apart from that they have done nothing wrong whatsoever, they have balanced the books from what looked like a perilous position that the old board put us in (not that I blame them, I wouldn’t swap that for the success we had).