NEIL HARRIS:THE CULTURE IN THE CITY PLAYERS NEEDS TO CHANGE

Harris says the mauling at QPR won't necessarily affect his January plans, suggesting there has already been movement behind the scenes.

Friday 3rd January 2019



NEIL HARRIS:

“We need to change the culture in our squad.”

"You [the press] are more focused on individuals. I look at the group as a whole and adapting the group.

"We have to build small blocks and adjust. Some players need to move on for their benefit. We’ve got some super lads here that really want to work on moving forward.

"The culture in the group needs to change. It doesn’t mean that on the back of that defeat, eight players are going to leave and six will come in. It’s not something I want to do."

He added: "Some players do need a change of scenery."

Asked if there could potentially be any new faces in before next week's South Wales derby, Harris said: "I wouldn’t rule it out.

"We’re not close to anything at the moment. We have to look at injuries and make sure we have a competitive squad.

"I want to see young players given an opportunity, but a lot could happen in nine days’ time. It’s too early to say at the moment."

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Harris will never give youngsters a chance
It will be same old same old

Tan not still not confirmed any funding then : it was a taxi for certain players now it seems it’s going to be a mini bus load of players leaving :

taxi..? it was clearing the decks..
now its..it doesn't mean 8 will leave and 6 come in..

Groundhog day.

Why is Tan here???
What is his goal.

If I had a pound for the number of
People I've met over Xmas who
Have said how "crap the football was"
And "not going back" etc.

I could have bought a mini season ticket lol

Seriously though. There are many
Like me City through and through but
Lost habit of attending games.

Thats not good in the long term
Surely.

Groundhog day.

Why is Tan here???
What is his goal.

If I had a pound for the number of
People I've met over Xmas who
Have said how "crap the football was"
And "not going back" etc.

I could have bought a mini season ticket lol

Seriously though. There are many
Like me City through and through but
Lost habit of attending games.

Thats not good in the long term
Surely.

like most im not sure why he is here.. like a lot of foreign owners he owns from a distance and rarely turns up.. personally im glad he is here because I don't really see an alternative. but how interested or ambitious he is only he knows..
his goal ? no idea. but he could have told NW last summer no fees .. I think we spent about 20 million .. and cheaper { wages } free transfer /out of contract players.. I know we sold but he didn't have to buy...
as for the crap football..i think it is as well.. and hear the things your hearing but I honestly have seen much much worse. for about 35 years id have bitten your hand off for 4 points short the play offs in January most fans would have..
expectations have risen...

Groundhog day.

Why is Tan here???
What is his goal.

If I had a pound for the number of
People I've met over Xmas who
Have said how "crap the football was"
And "not going back" etc.

I could have bought a mini season ticket lol

Seriously though. There are many
Like me City through and through but
Lost habit of attending games.

Thats not good in the long term
Surely.

like most im not sure why he is here.. like a lot of foreign owners he owns from a distance and rarely turns up.. personally im glad he is here because I don't really see an alternative. but how interested or ambitious he is only he knows..
his goal ? no idea. but he could have told NW last summer no fees .. I think we spent about 20 million .. and cheaper { wages } free transfer /out of contract players.. I know we sold but he didn't have to buy...
as for the crap football..i think it is as well.. and hear the things your hearing but I honestly have seen much much worse. for about 35 years id have bitten your hand off for 4 points short the play offs in January most fans would have..
expectations have risen...

I know

I agree, seen it worse but felt better..
I started going in 81 or 82.
Maybe nostalgia
But the banter, the terraces, the crowd camaraderie, the togetherness etc seems to have disappeared.

I fondly remember seats coming in and saying, "bollux,, ill have to watch the shit now lol" as on terraces you were singing or listening to the many characters all packed in by your side.
We could lose 4 v 0 be disappointed but would have had a good day.
Always back for more

When you take the crack away, the cctv, bubble trips sterile stadiums, corporate shite, the football loses its luster.

I honestly thought our time was after our Wembley finals, finally kicking on and establishing ourselves l. That got fucked by the rebrand. Then, we had a golden second chance. Team and fans together, premier league. Time to say thank you and f**k off upstairs to warnock and get a new manager in. If we dodged the first year,, then hey,, we could establish ourselves....

We don't get chances like that often, and you have to grab stuff both hands and bust a gut to seize opportunity. We didn't and we are left with a tired old Bible of a costly squad that a probably better off playing hurling or gaelic fuckin football
Ourfans suffering,, yet again.....

Groundhog day.

Why is Tan here???
What is his goal.

If I had a pound for the number of
People I've met over Xmas who
Have said how "crap the football was"
And "not going back" etc.

I could have bought a mini season ticket lol

Seriously though. There are many
Like me City through and through but
Lost habit of attending games.

Thats not good in the long term
Surely.

I think we may know the answers to your first two questions. He is here because he was persuaded to come here and help the club to pay off it's debts to the Inland Revenue who were using the Courts to get the money due to them. His goal is to see the club clear of debt and running within it's means. That is what he has told us whether that ever happens remains to be seen.

Wouldn't a few seasons in tge
Premier league have helped him
Do that?

Wouldn't a few seasons in tge
Premier league have helped him
Do that?

You would think it would. To be honest I have not looked at the PL club's finances for a long time, but the last time I did I recall that there were combined debts of over £2 billion. Not sure what the figure is now with the huge TV revenue, but I guess to be competitive there you need a huge income to pay the ridiculous transfer fees, and the even more ridiculous wages. Would certainly have been good to see us actually survive there for a while rather than the fleeting visits we have had in recent times.

Can someone please change NH photo as he looks like Il Duce Mussolini just less pretty

“It’s not something I want to do” well who’s in charge then?

Wouldn't a few seasons in tge
Premier league have helped him
Do that?

You would think it would. To be honest I have not looked at the PL club's finances for a long time, but the last time I did I recall that there were combined debts of over £2 billion. Not sure what the figure is now with the huge TV revenue, but I guess to be competitive there you need a huge income to pay the ridiculous transfer fees, and the even more ridiculous wages. Would certainly have been good to see us actually survive there for a while rather than the fleeting visits we have had in recent times.

we didn't spend enough mate ,simple as that... cant blame him as not only did it bite him on the arse financially last time he got a load of stingers for it as well..
we will never give it real go under Tan, but I dread to think what happens without him..

Wouldn't a few seasons in tge
Premier league have helped him
Do that?

You would think it would. To be honest I have not looked at the PL club's finances for a long time, but the last time I did I recall that there were combined debts of over £2 billion. Not sure what the figure is now with the huge TV revenue, but I guess to be competitive there you need a huge income to pay the ridiculous transfer fees, and the even more ridiculous wages. Would certainly have been good to see us actually survive there for a while rather than the fleeting visits we have had in recent times.

we didn't spend enough mate ,simple as that... cant blame him as not only did it bite him on the arse financially last time he got a load of stingers for it as well..
we will never give it real go under Tan, but I dread to think what happens without him..

Like you say he got himself stung once, and I suppose not many people with a good business brain make the same mistake twice. I think a lot of his problems stem from his lack of knowledge about this particular business, and he has had to look to others for advice. At least we have had some serious investment for the first time in 50 odd years, and pumping money into a football club has to be the ultimate gamble. Not sure just how much Mr Tan is prepared to gamble, but it appears to be not a huge amount at this time.

Wouldn't a few seasons in tge
Premier league have helped him
Do that?

You would think it would. To be honest I have not looked at the PL club's finances for a long time, but the last time I did I recall that there were combined debts of over £2 billion. Not sure what the figure is now with the huge TV revenue, but I guess to be competitive there you need a huge income to pay the ridiculous transfer fees, and the even more ridiculous wages. Would certainly have been good to see us actually survive there for a while rather than the fleeting visits we have had in recent times.

we didn't spend enough mate ,simple as that... cant blame him as not only did it bite him on the arse financially last time he got a load of stingers for it as well..
we will never give it real go under Tan, but I dread to think what happens without him..

Like you say he got himself stung once, and I suppose not many people with a good business brain make the same mistake twice. I think a lot of his problems stem from his lack of knowledge about this particular business, and he has had to look to others for advice. At least we have had some serious investment for the first time in 50 odd years, and pumping money into a football club has to be the ultimate gamble. Not sure just how much Mr Tan is prepared to gamble, but it appears to be not a huge amount at this time.

there have been rumours a few times he has tried to get interest to buy off him through Dalmans company. can only think there is no interest..

Wouldn't a few seasons in tge
Premier league have helped him
Do that?

You would think it would. To be honest I have not looked at the PL club's finances for a long time, but the last time I did I recall that there were combined debts of over £2 billion. Not sure what the figure is now with the huge TV revenue, but I guess to be competitive there you need a huge income to pay the ridiculous transfer fees, and the even more ridiculous wages. Would certainly have been good to see us actually survive there for a while rather than the fleeting visits we have had in recent times.

we didn't spend enough mate ,simple as that... cant blame him as not only did it bite him on the arse financially last time he got a load of stingers for it as well..
we will never give it real go under Tan, but I dread to think what happens without him..

Like you say he got himself stung once, and I suppose not many people with a good business brain make the same mistake twice. I think a lot of his problems stem from his lack of knowledge about this particular business, and he has had to look to others for advice. At least we have had some serious investment for the first time in 50 odd years, and pumping money into a football club has to be the ultimate gamble. Not sure just how much Mr Tan is prepared to gamble, but it appears to be not a huge amount at this time.

We spent nothing really, even sheff Utd spent 20 million in one player, clubs like West Ham spending 50 million on a player. We really need to get an academy going, so much talent around here we keep losing. After 10 years Tan still doesn’t know how to run a club properly, he’s getting there but for such a wealthy guy I expected a bit more business acumen

Wouldn't a few seasons in tge
Premier league have helped him
Do that?

You would think it would. To be honest I have not looked at the PL club's finances for a long time, but the last time I did I recall that there were combined debts of over £2 billion. Not sure what the figure is now with the huge TV revenue, but I guess to be competitive there you need a huge income to pay the ridiculous transfer fees, and the even more ridiculous wages. Would certainly have been good to see us actually survive there for a while rather than the fleeting visits we have had in recent times.

we didn't spend enough mate ,simple as that... cant blame him as not only did it bite him on the arse financially last time he got a load of stingers for it as well..
we will never give it real go under Tan, but I dread to think what happens without him..

Like you say he got himself stung once, and I suppose not many people with a good business brain make the same mistake twice. I think a lot of his problems stem from his lack of knowledge about this particular business, and he has had to look to others for advice. At least we have had some serious investment for the first time in 50 odd years, and pumping money into a football club has to be the ultimate gamble. Not sure just how much Mr Tan is prepared to gamble, but it appears to be not a huge amount at this time.

We spent nothing really, even sheff Utd spent 20 million in one player, clubs like West Ham spending 50 million on a player. We really need to get an academy going, so much talent around here we keep losing. After 10 years Tan still doesn’t know how to run a club properly, he’s getting there but for such a wealthy guy I expected a bit more business acumen

Aye I know that silly self made billionaire with no business acumen

This is football
No McDonald's though.

Billionaire because he sells cheap
Shit for a big profit, or buys and sells
At the right time.

Made his money selling convenient crap
To thick twats.
It's not the same with football.

Ohh hang on.....

Groundhog day.

Why is Tan here???
What is his goal.

If I had a pound for the number of
People I've met over Xmas who
Have said how "crap the football was"
And "not going back" etc.

I could have bought a mini season ticket lol

Seriously though. There are many
Like me City through and through but
Lost habit of attending games.

Thats not good in the long term
Surely.

like most im not sure why he is here.. like a lot of foreign owners he owns from a distance and rarely turns up.. personally im glad he is here because I don't really see an alternative. but how interested or ambitious he is only he knows..
his goal ? no idea. but he could have told NW last summer no fees .. I think we spent about 20 million .. and cheaper { wages } free transfer /out of contract players.. I know we sold but he didn't have to buy...
as for the crap football..i think it is as well.. and hear the things your hearing but I honestly have seen much much worse. for about 35 years id have bitten your hand off for 4 points short the play offs in January most fans would have..
expectations have risen...

I know

I agree, seen it worse but felt better..
I started going in 81 or 82.
Maybe nostalgia
But the banter, the terraces, the crowd camaraderie, the togetherness etc seems to have disappeared.

I fondly remember seats coming in and saying, "bollux,, ill have to watch the shit now lol" as on terraces you were singing or listening to the many characters all packed in by your side.
We could lose 4 v 0 be disappointed but would have had a good day.
Always back for more

When you take the crack away, the cctv, bubble trips sterile stadiums, corporate shite, the football loses its luster.

I honestly thought our time was after our Wembley finals, finally kicking on and establishing ourselves l. That got fucked by the rebrand. Then, we had a golden second chance. Team and fans together, premier league. Time to say thank you and f**k off upstairs to warnock and get a new manager in. If we dodged the first year,, then hey,, we could establish ourselves....

We don't get chances like that often, and you have to grab stuff both hands and bust a gut to seize opportunity. We didn't and we are left with a tired old Bible of a costly squad that a probably better off playing hurling or gaelic fuckin football
Ourfans suffering,, yet again.....

Modern football for you I'm sorry but it's not about the fans anymore it's just not same the Wembley trips were ideal time for us te establish our self as a strong top team but what have we done ten brings us the re brand which nearly killed off the fan base because he thought it make the club more established and look how that went all bad press until we went back to blue and now this its 1 step forward 3 steps backwards. for me the club hasnt been same since we left ninian park you can count on one hand the times we had a major good atmos in CCS the atmos is poor at best now since the rebrand this been first season I've missed home games been going down since 91 been season ticket holder since 02-03 before I get called a plastic fan the sad thing is I'm not bothered about missing games and for me saying that about the team I've followed gone all over the uk watching them it's really sad but again that's what modern football is doing to its fanbase

Would like to know what he means by the culture at the club needs to change ???

Only Etheridge, Sol,NML & Holiett started against QPR that were first teamers during the promotion season

Bruno, Gunnars, Zohore, Bryson, Damour are no longer here

Ralls, Bennett, Morrison & Paterson never made the pitch and Peltier was always Brunos back up

I am sure i can recall Jazz playing at some time in between injuries the same for Ward.

So (IMO) he is talking about Sol.

Who is the leader of CCFC. I expect SOL gone this window

Groundhog day.

Why is Tan here???
What is his goal.

If I had a pound for the number of
People I've met over Xmas who
Have said how "crap the football was"
And "not going back" etc.

I could have bought a mini season ticket lol

Seriously though. There are many
Like me City through and through but
Lost habit of attending games.

Thats not good in the long term
Surely.

like most im not sure why he is here.. like a lot of foreign owners he owns from a distance and rarely turns up.. personally im glad he is here because I don't really see an alternative. but how interested or ambitious he is only he knows..
his goal ? no idea. but he could have told NW last summer no fees .. I think we spent about 20 million .. and cheaper { wages } free transfer /out of contract players.. I know we sold but he didn't have to buy...
as for the crap football..i think it is as well.. and hear the things your hearing but I honestly have seen much much worse. for about 35 years id have bitten your hand off for 4 points short the play offs in January most fans would have..
expectations have risen...

I know

I agree, seen it worse but felt better..
I started going in 81 or 82.
Maybe nostalgia
But the banter, the terraces, the crowd camaraderie, the togetherness etc seems to have disappeared.

I fondly remember seats coming in and saying, "bollux,, ill have to watch the shit now lol" as on terraces you were singing or listening to the many characters all packed in by your side.
We could lose 4 v 0 be disappointed but would have had a good day.
Always back for more

When you take the crack away, the cctv, bubble trips sterile stadiums, corporate shite, the football loses its luster.

I honestly thought our time was after our Wembley finals, finally kicking on and establishing ourselves l. That got fucked by the rebrand. Then, we had a golden second chance. Team and fans together, premier league. Time to say thank you and f**k off upstairs to warnock and get a new manager in. If we dodged the first year,, then hey,, we could establish ourselves....

We don't get chances like that often, and you have to grab stuff both hands and bust a gut to seize opportunity. We didn't and we are left with a tired old Bible of a costly squad that a probably better off playing hurling or gaelic fuckin football
Ourfans suffering,, yet again.....

Modern football for you I'm sorry but it's not about the fans anymore it's just not same the Wembley trips were ideal time for us te establish our self as a strong top team but what have we done ten brings us the re brand which nearly killed off the fan base because he thought it make the club more established and look how that went all bad press until we went back to blue and now this its 1 step forward 3 steps backwards. for me the club hasnt been same since we left ninian park you can count on one hand the times we had a major good atmos in CCS the atmos is poor at best now since the rebrand this been first season I've missed home games been going down since 91 been season ticket holder since 02-03 before I get called a plastic fan the sad thing is I'm not bothered about missing games and for me saying that about the team I've followed gone all over the uk watching them it's really sad but again that's what modern football is doing to its fanbase

Modern football it is but you seem to blame it for your lack of interest in Cardiff City but over the last 10 years attendances are up across all 4 leagues.
More people are watching ‘modern football’ at stadiums and TV than ever before.

Only Etheridge, Sol,NML & Holiett started against QPR that were first teamers during the promotion season

Bruno, Gunnars, Zohore, Bryson, Damour are no longer here

Ralls, Bennett, Morrison & Paterson never made the pitch and Peltier was always Brunos back up

I am sure i can recall Jazz playing at some time in between injuries the same for Ward.

So (IMO) he is talking about Sol.

Who is the leader of CCFC. I expect SOL gone this window

Interesting theory but I don’t agree regarding Sol. I don’t think he’ll be gone in January. I’m hoping Flint is but I don’t think he’ll be going anywhere either.

He always seems a bit confused to me as he changes his mind regularly.

Only Etheridge, Sol,NML & Holiett started against QPR that were first teamers during the promotion season

Bruno, Gunnars, Zohore, Bryson, Damour are no longer here

Ralls, Bennett, Morrison & Paterson never made the pitch and Peltier was always Brunos back up

I am sure i can recall Jazz playing at some time in between injuries the same for Ward.

So (IMO) he is talking about Sol.

Who is the leader of CCFC. I expect SOL gone this window

who knows..i cant make head or tail of what he says.

Harris will never give youngsters a chance
It will be same old same old

d

You could well be right. But it could be that there is no one good enough yet to improve our first team.If accounts from people who watch our youth teams are correct there are a few reasonably promising players but no one really outstanding like Ramsey Earnie and even Simom Howarth were in their day. Let's face it in the last couple of years our most promising youth team players were Tommy O Sullivan and Mark Harris and they are both struggling to get into the non league teams they are currently playing for.

I rather suspect Harris is thinking how on earth can a comparatively bid club like Cardiff have such a rubbish youth set up.

Problem is, Tan has said he wants the club debt free. See what happens then. If there were investors, they wouldn’t move until that time anyway. He’s about saving lots of money, not getting rid of it.

All told, we’re in decent shape although it’s poor at the moment.

Harris will never give youngsters a chance
It will be same old same old

d

You could well be right. But it could be that there is no one good enough yet to improve our first team.If accounts from people who watch our youth teams are correct there are a few reasonably promising players but no one really outstanding like Ramsey Earnie and even Simom Howarth were in their day. Let's face it in the last couple of years our most promising youth team players were Tommy O Sullivan and Mark Harris and they are both struggling to get into the non league teams they are currently playing for.

I rather suspect Harris is thinking how on earth can a comparatively bid club like Cardiff have such a rubbish youth set up.

ALL the recent managers have not played academy kids...and ALL our recent managers have played academy kids at other clubs they have been at...
but no doubt Harris like those before him will be labelled as not giving them a chance...they aint good enough