No money for January

Doesn't look good

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Hopefully Tan will now clear total debt

Club content with mid table

Can see big changes in the summer

Was anyone expecting it ?

I can't see the point of any loanees either. Most premier league kids come with so many conditions its not worth the bother and i can't see us doing a WBA next season with loads of high salary ex premier league or established top championship players, so loaning them with an option to buy is also a no goer.

Its a sellers market, so why buy.

Of course not. We can't keep adding to the debt.

We have to sell before brining in, sadly we have wasted a lot of money so unlikely to recoup much. Need to rebalanced the squad.

Of course not. We can't keep adding to the debt.

We have to sell before brining in, sadly we have wasted a lot of money so unlikely to recoup much. Need to rebalanced the squad.

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Hopefully one or two good loans / frees then.

Of course not. We can't keep adding to the debt.

We have to sell before brining in, sadly we have wasted a lot of money so unlikely to recoup much. Need to rebalanced the squad.

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Hopefully one or two good loans / frees then.

I'd think loans more likely in Jan. Not really a time to buy anyway. Maybe a few loaned out and a few in. Wouldn't surprise me to see Murphy head out on loan (and do well)

Makes a mockery of all the “we are going to give it a real go” pre-season quotes

I just wish the owner/board would stop talking shite, no one would blame them for cutting cost but just be honest about it

Makes a mockery of all the “we are going to give it a real go” pre-season quotes

I just wish the owner/board would stop talking shite, no one would blame them for cutting cost but just be honest about it

2 points of play offs could translate as having a go.
I do see your point mate re transparency of the clubs hierarchy statements but no club owners would ever say ‘we’re just going to consolidate with mid table this year’.

It would be foolish to not go for it given the position we are in.
The league is weak this year apart from the top 2. The play offs are achievable with a bit of financial backing in January. It wouldnt even cost a lot

Makes a mockery of all the “we are going to give it a real go” pre-season quotes

I just wish the owner/board would stop talking shite, no one would blame them for cutting cost but just be honest about it

Plenty of us knew there would be little, if any, money to spend. A lot of fans choose not to listen to what Tan has to say. He has been as up front as he could possibly be. He has continually said he intends to leave this club debt free, and running within it's means. You do not achieve that by building up debts. I am not sure why you have said he has not been honest about it. I have said plenty of times during the last year or more saying we would have hardly any funds available. That is nothing to do with being itk, it is simply listening to what Tan has had to say.

Makes a mockery of all the “we are going to give it a real go” pre-season quotes

I just wish the owner/board would stop talking shite, no one would blame them for cutting cost but just be honest about it

2 points of play offs could translate as having a go.
I do see your point mate re transparency of the clubs hierarchy statements but no club owners would ever say ‘we’re just going to consolidate with mid table this year’.

Yes you have a fair point, but the thing is though the team that was relegated last season with maybe 2 quality signings and possibly 2 very decent loan signings would almost certainly have been good enough to go straight back up

instead we went for the cheaper option of lower division/ untried foreigners and quantity over quality mainly because we weren’t prepared to pay a big transfer or loan fee. So that’s not having a go is it? we appear to have been conned

Good - Sell players and spend that money .

Makes a mockery of all the “we are going to give it a real go” pre-season quotes

I just wish the owner/board would stop talking shite, no one would blame them for cutting cost but just be honest about it

Plenty of us knew there would be little, if any, money to spend. A lot of fans choose not to listen to what Tan has to say. He has been as up front as he could possibly be. He has continually said he intends to leave this club debt free, and running within it's means. You do not achieve that by building up debts. I am not sure why you have said he has not been honest about it. I have said plenty of times during the last year or more saying we would have hardly any funds available. That is nothing to do with being itk, it is simply listening to what Tan has had to say.

I think we all knew deep down there would be little money available but Dalman did say on more than 1 occasion the manager would be backed and we would give it a real go at getting back up

A net transfer profit in the summer and Harris comments today would suggest that statement wasn’t true

Not to bothered plenty of quality to bring in on loan which will still cost the club a good few quid on fee and wages.
January awful time to buy inflated prices.

Warnock has wasted plenty of money, time to recoup a few quid and get a few off the wage bill.
Big earners like Murphy hopefully being 1st to go with smithies close behind if we dont sell Etheridge (I'd take 8 for him)
So overall we will be spending a few quid, but also running the club properly

Not to bothered plenty of quality to bring in on loan which will still cost the club a good few quid on fee and wages.
January awful time to buy inflated prices.

Warnock has wasted plenty of money, time to recoup a few quid and get a few off the wage bill.
Big earners like Murphy hopefully being 1st to go with smithies close behind if we dont sell Etheridge (I'd take 8 for him)
So overall we will be spending a few quid, but also running the club properly

I'm sure we can get more than that for Etheridge, I was hoping 1 or 2m myself.

Not really surprising but a bit disappointing.

No doubt it was made abundantly clear to Harris when he took the job that there would be no money in January but in fairness to him he has managed to get the team in a position where with a bit of investment and one or two decent signings then a tilt at the play offs is a realistic target.

Nobody is suggesting that Tan should be spending tens of millions but to say that no money will be available again shows that the ambition of the club is limited to cutting costs and reducing the debt. Absolutely nothing wrong with that of course but as mentioned previously it makes them look stupid when they come out with claims about how they are going to give promotion a real good go when their actions prove otherwise.

When are the next set of accounts due to come out? I would hope to see a very significant decrease in the level of debt from the last set of accounts and hopefully, with the lack of money being spent on players this season and the incoming parachute payments, Tan will be able to achieve what I believe has been his aim since we first got relegated from the Premier League which is to reduce the debt as much as possible and get rid of the club.

Once that happens we have a whole new set of worries to consider about any new owner!

Just to be provocative..........Where’s the parachute money gone ?

also the club were looking to “ do a Burnley” ?

We are just a win or so from the play offs and in the summer our chairman said “we are going to give it a good go “


Just saying ....

Just to be provocative..........Where’s the parachute money gone ?

also the club were looking to “ do a Burnley” ?

We are just a win or so from the play offs and in the summer our chairman said “we are going to give it a good go “


Just saying ....

The parachute money just gets eaten away with over inflated costs from the season before.

Look at other teams who came down, gone are the days of big spending. Even those who spent big after the drop have either gone up or then struggled financially. Last seasons wage bill won't be sustainable.

Just to shit stir..........Where’s the parachute money gone ?

also the club were looking to “ do a Burnley” ?

We are just a win or so from the play offs and in the summer our chairman said “we are going to give it a good go “


Just saying ....

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Let’s not forget also that Emiliano Sala’s contract wrangle is soon be Concluded. This potentially could have a massive impact on financial matters For a long time to come.

Let’s not forget also that Emiliano Sala’s contract wrangle is soon be Concluded. This potentially could have a massive impact on financial matters For a long time to come.

yes if CAS decide against us its 10 mill straight away plus whatever legal fees the club has run up..

Let’s not forget also that Emiliano Sala’s contract wrangle is soon be Concluded. This potentially could have a massive impact on financial matters For a long time to come.

yes if CAS decide against us its 10 mill straight away plus whatever legal fees the club has run up..

You'd hope that as been taken into account as it's a year ago money should been paid? and as no bearing on transfers this year with tan just going what hes previously said before sala death?

Our squad is already more than good enough to finish in the top 6 anyway. People also seem to forget we spent a lot in the summer. Could do with getting another CM in on loan and if being greedy another winger so that we don’t have to rely on Murphy when short.

Let’s not forget also that Emiliano Sala’s contract wrangle is soon be Concluded. This potentially could have a massive impact on financial matters For a long time to come.

yes if CAS decide against us its 10 mill straight away plus whatever legal fees the club has run up..

You'd hope that as been taken into account as it's a year ago money should been paid? and as no bearing on transfers this year with tan just going what hes previously said before sala death?

what has he said Allan

Just to shit stir..........Where’s the parachute money gone ?

also the club were looking to “ do a Burnley” ?

We are just a win or so from the play offs and in the summer our chairman said “we are going to give it a good go “


Just saying ....

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Couple of points here..

We spent a fair bit of money in the summer.
We did not make a net profit in transfers.
Reid sale will not happen until the season is over and will be money for the summer

Our wage bill is still very big - we have some ridiculous imbalances in the squad.

Parachute payments will be used up on that wage bill.
It isn’t a case of ‘here’s £40m for transfers’

We lost £35m in our promotion season, partly due to huge bonuses

We will just have had to pay Warnock, Blackwell and Jepson off.

We have to abide by FFP.

Tan prior to last season was putting £1m a month into the club to balance the books, even with parachute payments, which we had before we went back up, maybe he’s fed up of that ?

We can’t expect more players in when we can put out2 full teams of reasonable level Championship players already

You’ll never see a youngster come through if we keep such a massive squad.

You really think that we will not spend some money in January, it would be silly to let everyone know that we are going to spend x amount of money!

Shouldn't come as any surprise.

Weve spent loads and haven't recouped much.

Neither have we utilised loans. Probably the only club in efl who doesn't have a loan player in. And I think the only one out is Cunningham plus the young keeper at Barry.

We will have to take our losses on Madine and a few others if they go and it will highlight how shocking our transfer dealings have been. That's assuming anyone is interested to begin with in our cast offs.

I am frustrated but not suprised by this. Similar to the time when a huge wage bill was left after OGS was sacked.

So bearing that in mind, a sensible statement of intent, even if it appears frustrating when we are so close to the play offs.

If this squad got promoted, i feel it would need a lot of money spent on it to make it an EPL worthy outfit that won’t go the same way as the two previous promoted squads. Fingers crossed, we will see more attacking fluid play the longer Harris has on the training pitch with our more attacking players. He was a goal scorer himself so Let’s hope we see more intent, creativity and dynamism because it is so needed, if only to keep the bums on seats for the rest of the season. We may as well have a really good go now.

So we now have a chairman who is looking to purchase another club, an absent owner, only at cardiff city
Somehow I dont think all is well at the top