HARRIS AND CITY PLAN HEFTY JANUARY CLEAR OUT

Cardiff City planning hefty January clear-out
By Harry Mail


Cardiff City are planning a clear-out in the upcoming January transfer window.

The Bluebirds are looking to trim down on their large squad to help balance the books and pave the way for a couple of new faces.

Their manager, Neil Harris, has done a steady job since taking over from Neil Warnock and wants to offload some players next month.

He has said, as per a report by Wales Online: “I have assessed my players now. I have got an idea of players I want to move forward with and some that can go, move on and play football. Players won’t just be judged on what they do on the pitch. They will be judged on standards on the training ground. If they haven’t got discipline they will not play for me.”

“Heart and desire and respect are massive. If you haven’t got all that you won’t play for me. Some need to be better or they won’t play.”


He added: “There has to be a long-term goal as well – it can’t always be short-termism. Where’s the long-term plan here? Where’s the academy lads coming through – the pathway for them? I want to build all that. You want to have a younger squad but you have to get success overnight as well, so it’s balancing the two.”

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I hope this is right; but some of our players will be difficult to move without incentive/inducement from the club itself

Sadly, a sign of the times where many players are 'happy' to sit on their contracts rather than put a shift in and play football

A good read that but heard it all before. Even so Harris needs to be given time and going on the work he did at Millwall he deserves that.

I'm prepared to be a bit frustrated at the first obstacle he will face and that is shifting some of the players on that he wants to get rid off. That's never an easy task as from what I am hearing these players are on good contracts above their value. Unless we are willing to take a drop in value on them we will come stuck.

Then the next obstacle is getting the right players in. I personally believe the best we will get are those good players who are out of favour with their clubs. Then that will not be plain sailing as such players will be given better options than us unless they are in the crap like bothroyd and Chopra were before initially coming to us.

For me I believe we will attract players of a young age who want to prove a point and use us as a stepping stone. I also believe Harris is the right guy to do that as well. Time will tell.

A good read that but heard it all before. Even so Harris needs to be given time and going on the work he did at Millwall he deserves that.

I'm prepared to be a bit frustrated at the first obstacle he will face and that is shifting some of the players on that he wants to get rid off. That's never an easy task as from what I am hearing these players are on good contracts above their value. Unless we are willing to take a drop in value on them we will come stuck.

Then the next obstacle is getting the right players in. I personally believe the best we will get are those good players who are out of favour with their clubs. Then that will not be plain sailing as such players will be given better options than us unless they are in the crap like bothroyd and Chopra were before initially coming to us.

For me I believe we will attract players of a young age who want to prove a point and use us as a stepping stone. I also believe Harris is the right guy to do that as well. Time will tell.

Currently, I'd be happy with the last paragraph happening. Young ambition could be a boost for City with the right 'experienced' players alongside them

We've had enough short termism(if there's such a word)I'm prepared to give this guy some time.The instant orgasm Brigade will have to be patient.

This is where my Cardiff City schizophrenia kicks ins. The cold, rational, 24 hours after a match version of me loves this article. We all know its the truth and we need to be ruthless.

The other version of me is straight after the game after I witness absolute dross and I ask myself the question is this guy any good. Many ex footballers find out they are not cut out for football management by their second or third club.

My fear is we still as a club still have a first team manager who wield a lot of power and destiny. Surely its time for a Sporting director or Director of football. Someone who heads recruitment including the coach. The swing of players between managers takes season to get over.
I believe Stephen McPhail is doing that in Ireland.

Anyway 100% agree with the strategy. Although I think our only salable assets are Etheridge,Morrison, Bennett, Ralls Holliet,Murphy and NML and there will be uproar if more than Murphy went

More than happy for any of the players to go, except Tomlin and Nelson.

Bite the bullet and get rid of as much dead wood as possible even if let them go for peanuts or settle contracts.. sooner NH as clear water to do what he needs to do and get in more appropriate players.

I think we all would like a good a good clear out and fresh faces. Would give the club a lift and a new impetus with even a change of tactics.

The problem with that is that if Harris doesn’t last then we’re back to square one almost.
As a club we don’t seem to have any continuity or long term plan. No ‘philosophy’ or style that runs through the club from the young academy players through the age groups to the first team.

re hashed article from WOL with a few Harris quotes which do not mention a hefty clear out. but do mention this magical pathway from the academy { if good enough pick them }

This is where my Cardiff City schizophrenia kicks ins. The cold, rational, 24 hours after a match version of me loves this article. We all know its the truth and we need to be ruthless.

The other version of me is straight after the game after I witness absolute dross and I ask myself the question is this guy any good. Many ex footballers find out they are not cut out for football management by their second or third club.

My fear is we still as a club still have a first team manager who wield a lot of power and destiny. Surely its time for a Sporting director or Director of football. Someone who heads recruitment including the coach. The swing of players between managers takes season to get over.
I believe Stephen McPhail is doing that in Ireland.

Anyway 100% agree with the strategy. Although I think our only salable assets are Etheridge,Morrison, Bennett, Ralls Holliet,Murphy and NML and there will be uproar if more than Murphy went

I agre with most of your post but I would except bids for any player as I believe we could nearly field two separate starting 11 of roughly equal quality or lack of. Squad needs a total rebuild from top to bottom and to achieve that 10 players must go

I think we all would like a good a good clear out and fresh faces. Would give the club a lift and a new impetus with even a change of tactics.

The problem with that is that if Harris doesn’t last then we’re back to square one almost.
As a club we don’t seem to have any continuity or long term plan. No ‘philosophy’ or style that runs through the club from the young academy players through the age groups to the first team.

Yes very true but got to start somewhere otherwise club will just Bob along mid table at best .. just maybe NH can start process as we haven't tried anything different past several seasons.

I think we all would like a good a good clear out and fresh faces. Would give the club a lift and a new impetus with even a change of tactics.

The problem with that is that if Harris doesn’t last then we’re back to square one almost.
As a club we don’t seem to have any continuity or long term plan. No ‘philosophy’ or style that runs through the club from the young academy players through the age groups to the first team.

Yes very true but got to start somewhere otherwise club will just Bob along mid table at best .. just maybe NH can start process as we haven't tried anything different past several seasons.

Yes I’m all for sticking with him and giving him a chance but I fear the crowd will turn if we don’t improve the quality and if we lose to the jacks.

I don't think a huge clear out is needed . Get some dead wood off the wage bill and add some quality in the right position. We will fly up the table.

I'd lose

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bacuna
Murphy
Glatzel
Vassell
Bogle
Vaulks

That would free up enough money to sign 3 quality players who can make the difference. 2 midfielders and a striker

This is where my Cardiff City schizophrenia kicks ins. The cold, rational, 24 hours after a match version of me loves this article. We all know its the truth and we need to be ruthless.

The other version of me is straight after the game after I witness absolute dross and I ask myself the question is this guy any good. Many ex footballers find out they are not cut out for football management by their second or third club.

My fear is we still as a club still have a first team manager who wield a lot of power and destiny. Surely its time for a Sporting director or Director of football. Someone who heads recruitment including the coach. The swing of players between managers takes season to get over.
I believe Stephen McPhail is doing that in Ireland.

Anyway 100% agree with the strategy. Although I think our only salable assets are Etheridge,Morrison, Bennett, Ralls Holliet,Murphy and NML and there will be uproar if more than Murphy went

I agre with most of your post but I would except bids for any player as I believe we could nearly field two separate starting 11 of roughly equal quality or lack of. Squad needs a total rebuild from top to bottom and to achieve that 10 players must go

most teams can field 2 teams though...and the players are being used...BY HIM..
we are not Barnsley and not effing millwall… he needs to get out of millwall mode sharpish..

I don't think a huge clear out is needed . Get some dead wood off the wage bill and add some quality in the right position. We will fly up the table.

I'd lose

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bacuna
Murphy
Glatzel
Vassell
Bogle
Vaulks

That would free up enough money to sign 3 quality players who can make the difference. 2 midfielders and a striker

I would say 9 players is pretty huge

I don't think a huge clear out is needed . Get some dead wood off the wage bill and add some quality in the right position. We will fly up the table.

I'd lose

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bacuna
Murphy
Glatzel
Vassell
Bogle
Vaulks

That would free up enough money to sign 3 quality players who can make the difference. 2 midfielders and a striker

I would say 9 players is pretty huge

Not really because 6 of those have barely played 5 games between them. They are all back up fringe players so would not effect our first team in any way
Only Murphy , Bacuna and Glatzel would be the ones that would be missing from a match day squad.
They can be easily replaced with better players who actually can play football

I don't think a huge clear out is needed . Get some dead wood off the wage bill and add some quality in the right position. We will fly up the table.

I'd lose

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bacuna
Murphy
Glatzel
Vassell
Bogle
Vaulks

That would free up enough money to sign 3 quality players who can make the difference. 2 midfielders and a striker

so where exactly do you think we will lose these players. most of those have signed relatively long contracts at decent money....NINE in a January window ?
we struggled to loan out Tomlin last year...ended up him going to Peterborough with us paying most of his wages...so who takes these off us ?

not that its going to happen...a weblog article ffs..

I don't think a huge clear out is needed . Get some dead wood off the wage bill and add some quality in the right position. We will fly up the table.

I'd lose

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bacuna
Murphy
Glatzel
Vassell
Bogle
Vaulks

That would free up enough money to sign 3 quality players who can make the difference. 2 midfielders and a striker

so where exactly do you think we will lose these players. most of those have signed relatively long contracts at decent money....NINE in a January window ?
we struggled to loan out Tomlin last year...ended up him going to Peterborough with us paying most of his wages...so who takes these off us ?

not that its going to happen...a weblog article ffs..

City will be lucky to offload many players and this should have been done in the summer when the contracts were either up or the players were told they were to find new clubs.

I don't think a huge clear out is needed . Get some dead wood off the wage bill and add some quality in the right position. We will fly up the table.

I'd lose

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bacuna
Murphy
Glatzel
Vassell
Bogle
Vaulks

That would free up enough money to sign 3 quality players who can make the difference. 2 midfielders and a striker

so where exactly do you think we will lose these players. most of those have signed relatively long contracts at decent money....NINE in a January window ?
we struggled to loan out Tomlin last year...ended up him going to Peterborough with us paying most of his wages...so who takes these off us ?

not that its going to happen...a weblog article ffs..

City will be lucky to offload many players and this should have been done in the summer when the contracts were either up or the players were told they were to find new clubs.

had we offloaded in the summer..i think most peoples top 3 would have been...tomlin..jazz and Connolly though...besdides we lost too many as it was..

I'd agree with that and I'd still dont think Richard's will make many games this season so for me I'd still bet rid

I'd agree with that and I'd still dont think Richard's will make many games this season so for me I'd still bet rid

same here leopards do not change their spots..so they would still be my first 3 , id rather take some money for tomlin now than be subsidising lge2 teams for the next 3 years..

We aren't easily get rid of most of these players so we need a manager to get the best out of what we have. Harris isn't that man for me.

We aren't easily get rid of most of these players so we need a manager to get the best out of what we have. Harris isn't that man for me.

its a bit to early to judge ..at the moment results are not terrible. and the team keep going right to the end { he will lose this if he keeps saying the things he is though } its the football that is poor..

We aren't easily get rid of most of these players so we need a manager to get the best out of what we have. Harris isn't that man for me.

its a bit to early to judge ..at the moment results are not terrible. and the team keep going right to the end { he will lose this if he keeps saying the things he is though } its the football that is poor..

Luke (2blue2handle) has been consistent in his view and I tend to think he is right; but we have to give Harris the opportunity to show us his worth (good, bad or indifferent) and if we want a team that is tough to beat, we have it

It's a fair while (Dave Jones era IMHO) since we had an 'attractive' side to watch and that sort of goes a long way to demonstrating the tendencies of too many Bluebird supporters who live by results alone...

Malky, like Neil Warnock was rightly idolised for getting us to the Premier League but neither had a team that was 'entertaining' in the way most would like

Always been the same really; win and the fans are generally happy, lose and they're on your case

We aren't easily get rid of most of these players so we need a manager to get the best out of what we have. Harris isn't that man for me.

its a bit to early to judge ..at the moment results are not terrible. and the team keep going right to the end { he will lose this if he keeps saying the things he is though } its the football that is poor..

Luke (2blue2handle) has been consistent in his view and I tend to think he is right; but we have to give Harris the opportunity to show us his worth (good, bad or indifferent) and if we want a team that is tough to beat, we have it

It's a fair while (Dave Jones era IMHO) since we had an 'attractive' side to watch and that sort of goes a long way to demonstrating the tendencies of too many Bluebird supporters who live by results alone...

Malky, like Neil Warnock was rightly idolised for getting us to the Premier League but neither had a team that was 'entertaining' in the way most would like

Always been the same really; win and the fans are generally happy, lose and they're on your case

I proper do not understand this appointment.. its Warnock football with a few pointless passes in our own half thrown in at the expense of touches in the opposition penalty area...
im not Harris out yet.. but it doesn't look promising

I think we all would like a good a good clear out and fresh faces. Would give the club a lift and a new impetus with even a change of tactics.

The problem with that is that if Harris doesn’t last then we’re back to square one almost.
As a club we don’t seem to have any continuity or long term plan. No ‘philosophy’ or style that runs through the club from the young academy players through the age groups to the first team.

Yes very true but got to start somewhere otherwise club will just Bob along mid table at best .. just maybe NH can start process as we haven't tried anything different past several seasons.

Yes I’m all for sticking with him and giving him a chance but I fear the crowd will turn if we don’t improve the quality and if we lose to the jacks.

if we don't win either of the next 2 then lose to Swansea boy will he be in the shite...fairly or not ,he will be..

Roll On JAN

I don't think a huge clear out is needed . Get some dead wood off the wage bill and add some quality in the right position. We will fly up the table.

I'd lose

Day - I’d rather get shot of Smithies with his high wages
Richard's - no way I’d get rid of him, our best fullback
Connolly - Defo get shot
Bacuna - no way
Murphy - he’ll come good and potentially our best winger
Glatzel - he’ll come good, best striker we have
Vassell - I’d keep him as long as his injuries are sorted
Bogle - get shot
Vaulks - good backup midfielder
I would add Madine to your list of players to get rid

That would free up enough money to sign 3 quality players who can make the difference. 2 midfielders and a striker

Bite the bullet and get rid of as much dead wood as possible even if let them go for peanuts or settle contracts.. sooner NH as clear water to do what he needs to do and get in more appropriate players.

Allen, know what you mean but it can't be sustainable doing that over and over mate as we've already been there


Also, been thinking did Warnock and the club know that Harris was getting the job a while back but waited to allow bit of time from him quitting Millwall as we know Harris said he rates Jazz and for some strange reason the club gave Jazz a contract extension whilst he was injured ( again )??