Roll On 1st of January

1st of January can’t come soon enough. The side has an overall lack of quality, pace, way to slow, dont press lack of energy.
Whether it’s loans or we can move players on to generate some cash which ever way we need as a minimum 3/4 players.
Today is the one day of the season you have a chance to attract the fair weather supporter but after watching us today and you had the misfortune of watching the Preston game you wouldn’t be rushing back it’s painful to say the least and that’s being kind.

We've got loads of strikers and they are all either injured or shit.

If we got rid of every one of them in the window we wouldn't notice much difference.

Hopefully no money wasted on Harris, doubt he will be here this time next season. He needs to get way more from what he has. Maybe try some tactics other than defensive and hope Tomlin does something.

Agree. After relentless (misguided/deluded) fanatical bleating about the lifelong devotion bred into Bluebird supporters, I eventually persuaded the father in law to attend today. You'll see what the fuss is about, you'll see the light. .yadda yadda yadda. Free ticket, a few bevvies, free lift...he'll not be coming back again. I've endured several hours of incredulous disbelief

You could have Ronaldo up front and it wouldn’t make a difference we are so slow pedestrian don press we give side 10 minutes to get back behind the ball and that’s my point never going to threaten any team

You could have Ronaldo up front and it wouldn’t make a difference we are so slow pedestrian don press we give side 10 minutes to get back behind the ball and that’s my point never going to threaten any team

That's rubbish
Ronaldo provides a outlet to his teammates with his movement allowing the team to move forward as a group

Our strikers dont, the strikers are as much of the problem. As the rest of the team

You could have Ronaldo up front and it wouldn’t make a difference we are so slow pedestrian don press we give side 10 minutes to get back behind the ball and that’s my point never going to threaten any team

That's rubbish
Ronaldo provides a outlet to his teammates with his movement allowing the team to move forward as a group

Our strikers dont, the strikers are as much of the problem. As the rest of the team

We play with one striker and suppose to have two attacking wingers come midfielders only problem is they dont attack until rest team is ready by that time it's to late and Etheridge kicks into touch or to nobody. And that in nutshell is our problem ! One that NH doesn't seem capable of remedying.

You could have Ronaldo up front and it wouldn’t make a difference we are so slow pedestrian don press we give side 10 minutes to get back behind the ball and that’s my point never going to threaten any team

That's rubbish
Ronaldo provides a outlet to his teammates with his movement allowing the team to move forward as a group

Our strikers dont, the strikers are as much of the problem. As the rest of the team

We play with one striker and suppose to have two attacking wingers come midfielders only problem is they dont attack until rest team is ready by that time it's to late and Etheridge kicks into touch or to nobody. And that in nutshell is our problem ! One that NH doesn't seem capable of remedying.

I agree but the strikers are not helping with the lack of movement and ability to hold the ball up. I've been saying Etheridge is poor and has been a issue regarding our play for a whilst and now its showing through.

Lets be honest the whole team is poor and nobody is doing enough in all positions

You could have Ronaldo up front and it wouldn’t make a difference we are so slow pedestrian don press we give side 10 minutes to get back behind the ball and that’s my point never going to threaten any team

That's rubbish
Ronaldo provides a outlet to his teammates with his movement allowing the team to move forward as a group

Our strikers dont, the strikers are as much of the problem. As the rest of the team

We play with one striker and suppose to have two attacking wingers come midfielders only problem is they dont attack until rest team is ready by that time it's to late and Etheridge kicks into touch or to nobody. And that in nutshell is our problem ! One that NH doesn't seem capable of remedying.

I agree but the strikers are not helping with the lack of movement and ability to hold the ball up. I've been saying Etheridge is poor and has been a issue regarding our play for a whilst and now its showing through.

Lets be honest the whole team is poor and nobody is doing enough in all positions

There are signs at times of improvement but then slip back like last two games.. tbh no forward does well because of way we play madine was best as he did hold ball up but then midfield didn't back him up so he couldn't get any chances... glatzel doesn't get service or support either! Its rediculas really as we are high up in championship for goals scored and shots on target but we are not getting the 2 or 3 wins in row we require to challenge top 6.

You could have Ronaldo up front and it wouldn’t make a difference we are so slow pedestrian don press we give side 10 minutes to get back behind the ball and that’s my point never going to threaten any team

That's rubbish
Ronaldo provides a outlet to his teammates with his movement allowing the team to move forward as a group

Our strikers dont, the strikers are as much of the problem. As the rest of the team

We play with one striker and suppose to have two attacking wingers come midfielders only problem is they dont attack until rest team is ready by that time it's to late and Etheridge kicks into touch or to nobody. And that in nutshell is our problem ! One that NH doesn't seem capable of remedying.

I agree but the strikers are not helping with the lack of movement and ability to hold the ball up. I've been saying Etheridge is poor and has been a issue regarding our play for a whilst and now its showing through.

Lets be honest the whole team is poor and nobody is doing enough in all positions

There are signs at times of improvement but then slip back like last two games.. tbh no forward does well because of way we play madine was best as he did hold ball up but then midfield didn't back him up so he couldn't get any chances... glatzel doesn't get service or support either! Its rediculas really as we are high up in championship for goals scored and shots on target but we are not getting the 2 or 3 wins in row we require to challenge top 6.

Those are problems a decent manager would be able to sort relatively easily. Harris doesnt seem to be changing or trying anything different other than asking us to pass more around our defence.

I wouldn't be too disappointed if City didn't get anyone in January but got about 6 out.

We ain't going up or down so let's keep the money and spend it next season

January is always a difficult window to do good business in as prices are always inflated. Hoping to see 2 players come in though and 4 or 5 go. Smithies, Murphy and Bogle I think will be gone. Bringing in a fullback could see coxe and brown go out on loan as well.

Not far off the playoffs so a few decent additions could see us get in the top 6. Still think we’ll be chasing top 6 all season though without getting in there. The tactics need to change though because it is horrible to watch. There has been nothing enjoyable about watching us play so far this season. There simply is not enough quality in the squad.

January is always a difficult window to do good business in as prices are always inflated. Hoping to see 2 players come in though and 4 or 5 go. Smithies, Murphy and Bogle I think will be gone. Bringing in a fullback could see coxe and brown go out on loan as well.

Not far off the playoffs so a few decent additions could see us get in the top 6. Still think we’ll be chasing top 6 all season though without getting in there. The tactics need to change though because it is horrible to watch. There has been nothing enjoyable about watching us play so far this season. There simply is not enough quality in the squad.

Nobody is going to buy Murphy without us making a huge loss so it's unlikely he will be going anywhere.

I would rather lose Etheridge than Smithies

Bogle will go on loan again to league 1

January is always a difficult window to do good business in as prices are always inflated. Hoping to see 2 players come in though and 4 or 5 go. Smithies, Murphy and Bogle I think will be gone. Bringing in a fullback could see coxe and brown go out on loan as well.

Not far off the playoffs so a few decent additions could see us get in the top 6. Still think we’ll be chasing top 6 all season though without getting in there. The tactics need to change though because it is horrible to watch. There has been nothing enjoyable about watching us play so far this season. There simply is not enough quality in the squad.

Nobody is going to buy Murphy without us making a huge loss so it's unlikely he will be going anywhere.

I would rather lose Etheridge than Smithies

Bogle will go on loan again to league 1

You’d probably have said the same about Reid as well. I prefer smithies over Etheridge as well but given that Smithies hasn’t started under Harris, he obviously sees etheridge as his first choice keeper. A decent offer for etheridge could see him go though. Doesn’t matter what league, Bogle will be sold/loaned out.

I think there will always be attack minded teams who will take a gamble on Murphy. Taking a small loss on him and reinvesting that money on someone else is better than having Murphy not even making the squad.

West Ham will come in for Etheridge but are not willing to pay more than 5/6 million.
I would take that Smithies is a better all round keeper and should never have been dropped by Warnock. As long as we reinvest the money in some quality or fees for loan players I would be happy.

January is always a difficult window to do good business in as prices are always inflated. Hoping to see 2 players come in though and 4 or 5 go. Smithies, Murphy and Bogle I think will be gone. Bringing in a fullback could see coxe and brown go out on loan as well.

Not far off the playoffs so a few decent additions could see us get in the top 6. Still think we’ll be chasing top 6 all season though without getting in there. The tactics need to change though because it is horrible to watch. There has been nothing enjoyable about watching us play so far this season. There simply is not enough quality in the squad.

Nobody is going to buy Murphy without us making a huge loss so it's unlikely he will be going anywhere.

I would rather lose Etheridge than Smithies

Bogle will go on loan again to league 1

You’d probably have said the same about Reid as well. I prefer smithies over Etheridge as well but given that Smithies hasn’t started under Harris, he obviously sees etheridge as his first choice keeper. A decent offer for etheridge could see him go though. Doesn’t matter what league, Bogle will be sold/loaned out.

I think there will always be attack minded teams who will take a gamble on Murphy. Taking a small loss on him and reinvesting that money on someone else is better than having Murphy not even making the squad.

Really cannot see us losing just a small amount on Murphy tbh,I see us being lucky to get half the money we paid for him,mainly on evidence of him lately looking uninterested,and being so out of form.

Etheridge never going to attract a £5 million offer and no way Murphy will either. If we didn't know what we paid for Murphy wed be very happy to get £2 million for him. Murphy is not going to make any side in the table above us better.

If anyone thinks there is going to be much action in January then you’re deluded. We may sign one or two squad players and move out 1 or 2 but it’s going to be negligible.

You could have Ronaldo up front and it wouldn’t make a difference we are so slow pedestrian don press we give side 10 minutes to get back behind the ball and that’s my point never going to threaten any team

That's rubbish
Ronaldo provides a outlet to his teammates with his movement allowing the team to move forward as a group

Our strikers dont, the strikers are as much of the problem. As the rest of the team

We play with one striker and suppose to have two attacking wingers come midfielders only problem is they dont attack until rest team is ready by that time it's to late and Etheridge kicks into touch or to nobody. And that in nutshell is our problem ! One that NH doesn't seem capable of remedying.

I agree but the strikers are not helping with the lack of movement and ability to hold the ball up. I've been saying Etheridge is poor and has been a issue regarding our play for a whilst and now its showing through.

Lets be honest the whole team is poor and nobody is doing enough in all positions

There are signs at times of improvement but then slip back like last two games.. tbh no forward does well because of way we play madine was best as he did hold ball up but then midfield didn't back him up so he couldn't get any chances... glatzel doesn't get service or support either! Its rediculas really as we are high up in championship for goals scored and shots on target but we are not getting the 2 or 3 wins in row we require to challenge top 6.

Those are problems a decent manager would be able to sort relatively easily. Harris doesnt seem to be changing or trying anything different other than asking us to pass more around our defence.

Yes it appears that the passing stops at halfway line if lucky! Need hoillett murphy or whoever are playing wide to push up quicker that will make so much difference if of course Etheridge releases ball to them..

You could have Ronaldo up front and it wouldn’t make a difference we are so slow pedestrian don press we give side 10 minutes to get back behind the ball and that’s my point never going to threaten any team

That's rubbish
Ronaldo provides a outlet to his teammates with his movement allowing the team to move forward as a group

Our strikers dont, the strikers are as much of the problem. As the rest of the team

We play with one striker and suppose to have two attacking wingers come midfielders only problem is they dont attack until rest team is ready by that time it's to late and Etheridge kicks into touch or to nobody. And that in nutshell is our problem ! One that NH doesn't seem capable of remedying.

I agree but the strikers are not helping with the lack of movement and ability to hold the ball up. I've been saying Etheridge is poor and has been a issue regarding our play for a whilst and now its showing through.

Lets be honest the whole team is poor and nobody is doing enough in all positions

There are signs at times of improvement but then slip back like last two games.. tbh no forward does well because of way we play madine was best as he did hold ball up but then midfield didn't back him up so he couldn't get any chances... glatzel doesn't get service or support either! Its rediculas really as we are high up in championship for goals scored and shots on target but we are not getting the 2 or 3 wins in row we require to challenge top 6.

Those are problems a decent manager would be able to sort relatively easily. Harris doesnt seem to be changing or trying anything different other than asking us to pass more around our defence.

Yes it appears that the passing stops at halfway line if lucky! Need hoillett murphy or whoever are playing wide to push up quicker that will make so much difference if of course Etheridge releases ball to them..

To be fair I have had multiple arguments on here about Etheridge , he has been a problem for a whilst but everybody seemed to think he was some world class keeper, in truth he was and is a big part of the problem in the way we play because of his distribution.

I agree our wingers play way too deep and leave themselves too much to do in getting forward on quick counters. That is where I feel for our strikers as even if they do win the ball (not often) they still have nobody around them to give it to so inevitably end up losing it

A little off topic, but what was that strange game Leicester and Liverpool were trying to play, very strange kicking the ball to someone in the same colour shirt, what a novel idea, perhaps we should try it

Look Harris is not stupid, he is giving every player a chance, so come the January transfer window he will know who to ship out and who he needs to bring in. At the moment we are stuck with what we have got, and there a re many who are not up to it, ffs give the man a break.

Look Harris is not stupid, he is giving every player a chance, so come the January transfer window he will know who to ship out and who he needs to bring in. At the moment we are stuck with what we have got, and there a re many who are not up to it, ffs give the man a break.

So how many games do you give him before you expect to see at least a slight change in play ?
Any change at all because so far if anything we have got worse at what we did with Warnock. It's awful and I would have expected to see some kind of change by now in our play.

Look Harris is not stupid, he is giving every player a chance, so come the January transfer window he will know who to ship out and who he needs to bring in. At the moment we are stuck with what we have got, and there a re many who are not up to it, ffs give the man a break.

So how many games do you give him before you expect to see at least a slight change in play ?
Any change at all because so far if anything we have got worse at what we did with Warnock. It's awful and I would have expected to see some kind of change by now in our play.

Have another read of my post, you have missed my point. He needs to give everyone a chance to show what they can do and see if they are up to the task, do you honestly think that he can get the best out of the team that he picks if he is sussing them all out. This team is Warnocks team, he would have to be a magician to get this lot to play any better!

Look Harris is not stupid, he is giving every player a chance, so come the January transfer window he will know who to ship out and who he needs to bring in. At the moment we are stuck with what we have got, and there a re many who are not up to it, ffs give the man a break.

So how many games do you give him before you expect to see at least a slight change in play ?
Any change at all because so far if anything we have got worse at what we did with Warnock. It's awful and I would have expected to see some kind of change by now in our play.

Have another read of my post, you have missed my point. He needs to give everyone a chance to show what they can do and see if they are up to the task, do you honestly think that he can get the best out of the team that he picks if he is sussing them all out. This team is Warnocks team, he would have to be a magician to get this lot to play any better!

So would you not expect to see at least some little tweaks in play by now or formations ?
It is exactly the same as Warnocks tactics and players. We need to give him time but it's slightly worrying we have not seen a single difference yet

A little off topic, but what was that strange game Leicester and Liverpool were trying to play, very strange kicking the ball to someone in the same colour shirt, what a novel idea, perhaps we should try it

Do you think it will catch on? The one in the different colour clothing joined in too. Not sure why he was dressed differently but when he had the ball people spread out and faced him. I thought they needed to turn their backs and run away.

Remember Harris said he would be giving as many players a chance as possible to show him what they can offer etc.
He's given Madine game time and Glatzel ,Jazz , Tomlin, Murphy, Nelson and Whyte.
Shame for Madine - but he just hasnt got it in him, physically and mentally off the pace - he will go to League 1
Murphy on his day is great but can go invisible at times - he will go to a PL team
Glatzel - seems lost in the championship, maybe it's a language thing or just not used to this - he can go back to Germany.

Tomlin, Nelson, Jazz, Mendez showing more than enough to stay here. Whyte / Valks will go if an offer comes in I think.
Vassell - living up to his injury prone status - he can go
Bogle - knows where the net is - not given enough time for a couple of games though.

Harris - now has a new overseas scout - so maybe we can expect someone players to come in. Live in hope.

Problem is people actually wanting our players, tan is gonna have to take a huge loss to get rid or pay these players up their contracts.

Cant see Harris getting any money unless he sells. This smells very similar to a russle Slade appointment.

Problem is people actually wanting our players, tan is gonna have to take a huge loss to get rid or pay these players up their contracts.

Cant see Harris getting any money unless he sells. This smells very similar to a russle Slade appointment.

I agree with the comparison to Russell Slade. Harris, like RS, is on a hiding to nothing, &, exactly like RS's appointment, it has all the hall marks of a cost cutting exercise. NH has to sort out the problems that NW has created with the current squad, exactly the same as RS had to do when he replaced OGS.
Things at our club look to have gone backwards five or six years?

I wouldn't be too disappointed if City didn't get anyone in January but got about 6 out.

We ain't going up or down so let's keep the money and spend it next season

There is some merit in that; but strangely we are still in touch with the top 6 and for that reason alone it's surely worth a punt at strengthening what we know to be a pretty stagnant squad right now?