Something definitely not right here. 60,000 in the sta

Something definitely not right here. 60,000 people in the stadium yet he heard one comment which nobody, including other players, linesman or fans in the area heard and hasn't been able to be picked up after hours of trawling the cameras and mics etc. Maybe he misheard something or is just making it up for attention. Who knows but spurs have a pretty good record on anti racism etc.

I personally have been up all the Spurs areas and seen many games up there over the years and they probably have the biggest multicultural fan base on football .

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My dad came down from Manchester to visit me today and said exactly the same Annis.

As you say, Spurs have people from a lot of different ethinicities who go an watch them. They've suffered abuse before because of their Jewish supporters.

I reported on this forum news reports. But the only evidence has come from the Chelsea defender Antonio Rüdiger and their captain Cesar Azpilicueta.

No evidence from any stewards/police or Spurs fans.

Meanwhile, a Chelsea fan arrested for abuse towards Son who plays for Spurs.

Agreed, something not right.

Something definitely not right here. 60,000 people in the stadium yet he heard one comment which nobody, including other players, linesman or fans in the area heard and hasn't been able to be picked up after hours of trawling the cameras and mics etc. Maybe he misheard something or is just making it up for attention. Who knows but spurs have a pretty good record on anti racism etc.

I personally have been up all the Spurs areas and seen many games up there over the years and they probably have the biggest multicultural fan base on football .

Annis they know exactly where it reportedly came from and yet cant categorically say it happened! Now they are going to use lip readers and anything to hand to try find something that maybe didnt happen, if dont find anybody using racial language them what ? Do what did with millwall fans who celebrated at Wembley take six months and countless man hours just to get fans celebrating a win at Wembley... need to get some sort of context with this racial thing or it's going to spoil fans enjoying the game as could be pulled up for slightest indiscretion with language used...

My dad came down from Manchester to visit me today and said exactly the same Annis.

As you say, Spurs have people from a lot of different ethinicities who go an watch them. They've suffered abuse before because of their Jewish supporters.

I reported on this forum news reports. But the only evidence has come from the Chelsea defender Antonio Rüdiger and their captain Cesar Azpilicueta.

No evidence from any stewards/police or Spurs fans.

Meanwhile, a Chelsea fan arrested for abuse towards Son who plays for Spurs.

Agreed, something not right.

Your Ned and your Dad is, something is not right?

Something definitely not right here. 60,000 people in the stadium yet he heard one comment which nobody, including other players, linesman or fans in the area heard and hasn't been able to be picked up after hours of trawling the cameras and mics etc. Maybe he misheard something or is just making it up for attention. Who knows but spurs have a pretty good record on anti racism etc.

I personally have been up all the Spurs areas and seen many games up there over the years and they probably have the biggest multicultural fan base on football .

Annis they know exactly where it reportedly came from and yet cant categorically say it happened! Now they are going to use lip readers and anything to hand to try find something that maybe didnt happen, if dont find anybody using racial language them what ? Do what did with millwall fans who celebrated at Wembley take six months and countless man hours just to get fans celebrating a win at Wembley... need to get some sort of context with this racial thing or it's going to spoil fans enjoying the game as could be pulled up for slightest indiscretion with language used...

Allan it’s getting out of order both ways in my Opinion.
I don’t think this happened, just my strong opinion.

My dad came down from Manchester to visit me today and said exactly the same Annis.

As you say, Spurs have people from a lot of different ethinicities who go an watch them. They've suffered abuse before because of their Jewish supporters.

I reported on this forum news reports. But the only evidence has come from the Chelsea defender Antonio Rüdiger and their captain Cesar Azpilicueta.

No evidence from any stewards/police or Spurs fans.

Meanwhile, a Chelsea fan arrested for abuse towards Son who plays for Spurs.

Agreed, something not right.

Your Ned and your Dad is, something is not right?

Chelsea were known a few years ago to say that Mark Clattenburg, a match referee, said racist remarks to one of their player.

It was later ruled that this was a lie by Chelsea.

Something not right, I agree. Very strange that Chelsea's captain heard something but nobody else did. Have to say that Anthony Taylor, the referee in this match, didn't hear anything and only went to speak to the managers about it after the Chelsea captain said something to him.

Hate to say it, because we all want to eliminate racism of any kin, but Chelsea have a reputation for making up these sorts of things. Looks like it's the case again.

just as concerning .. was all the talk from pundits who had heard nothing going on about walking off …. really ?

couple of hundred blokes doing hitler salutes and audible racial chanting fair enough.. but last Sunday wasn't that at all.

Something definitely not right here. 60,000 people in the stadium yet he heard one comment which nobody, including other players, linesman or fans in the area heard and hasn't been able to be picked up after hours of trawling the cameras and mics etc. Maybe he misheard something or is just making it up for attention. Who knows but spurs have a pretty good record on anti racism etc.

I personally have been up all the Spurs areas and seen many games up there over the years and they probably have the biggest multicultural fan base on football .

Surely one of the most multi cultural clubs around, for a player to hear it, surely lots of fans nearby would have? And also sorted the culprit out for the plod.....something doesn’t add up here

VAR it lol.


Not making light of it but personally think he made it up! They have form.

If this is true, and I’m not saying it is or isn’t, he’s showing complete disrespect to all those who have been victims of racist abuse.

I can’t believe he made it up,maybe misheard something,maybe he was the only player to hear it but that seems hard to believe.

I didn’t see the coin in the Leeds game cup game hit the referee. Does that mean it didn’t happen ?

I didn’t see the coin in the Leeds game cup game hit the referee. Does that mean it didn’t happen ?

but plenty of people did see it..
which is the point of the thread

Something definitely not right here. 60,000 people in the stadium yet he heard one comment which nobody, including other players, linesman or fans in the area heard and hasn't been able to be picked up after hours of trawling the cameras and mics etc. Maybe he misheard something or is just making it up for attention. Who knows but spurs have a pretty good record on anti racism etc.

I personally have been up all the Spurs areas and seen many games up there over the years and they probably have the biggest multicultural fan base on football .

Surely one of the most multi cultural clubs around, for a player to hear it, surely lots of fans nearby would have? And also sorted the culprit out for the plod.....something doesn’t add up here

Spot on Goats.

Makes you wonder even more?

I didn’t see the coin in the Leeds game cup game hit the referee. Does that mean it didn’t happen ?

but plenty of people did see it..
which is the point of the thread

Exactly

Something definitely not right here. 60,000 people in the stadium yet he heard one comment which nobody, including other players, linesman or fans in the area heard and hasn't been able to be picked up after hours of trawling the cameras and mics etc. Maybe he misheard something or is just making it up for attention. Who knows but spurs have a pretty good record on anti racism etc.

I personally have been up all the Spurs areas and seen many games up there over the years and they probably have the biggest multicultural fan base on football .

Annis they know exactly where it reportedly came from and yet cant categorically say it happened! Now they are going to use lip readers and anything to hand to try find something that maybe didnt happen, if dont find anybody using racial language them what ? Do what did with millwall fans who celebrated at Wembley take six months and countless man hours just to get fans celebrating a win at Wembley... need to get some sort of context with this racial thing or it's going to spoil fans enjoying the game as could be pulled up for slightest indiscretion with language used...

Allan it’s getting out of order both ways in my Opinion.
I don’t think this happened, just my strong opinion.

But basically, like me, you don't really know because you weren't actually there. So your strong opinion is just your opinion. You may be right but you just honestly don't know. It's just a guess or a hunch on your part. How could you know if you weren't there? How could you?

Something definitely not right here. 60,000 people in the stadium yet he heard one comment which nobody, including other players, linesman or fans in the area heard and hasn't been able to be picked up after hours of trawling the cameras and mics etc. Maybe he misheard something or is just making it up for attention. Who knows but spurs have a pretty good record on anti racism etc.

I personally have been up all the Spurs areas and seen many games up there over the years and they probably have the biggest multicultural fan base on football .

Annis they know exactly where it reportedly came from and yet cant categorically say it happened! Now they are going to use lip readers and anything to hand to try find something that maybe didnt happen, if dont find anybody using racial language them what ? Do what did with millwall fans who celebrated at Wembley take six months and countless man hours just to get fans celebrating a win at Wembley... need to get some sort of context with this racial thing or it's going to spoil fans enjoying the game as could be pulled up for slightest indiscretion with language used...

Allan it’s getting out of order both ways in my Opinion.
I don’t think this happened, just my strong opinion.

But basically, like me, you don't really know because you weren't actually there. So your strong opinion is just your opinion. You may be right but you just honestly don't know. It's just a guess or a hunch on your part. How could you know if you weren't there? How could you?

I watched it on TV but I know someone who was there. neither of us heard it and both of us think the same...that the player misheard something .. but my friend actually being there doesn't mean his opinion carries more weight than mine. would only carry more weight had he heard something which I had not but that works both ways too , things happen in games ive attended that ive missed at the ground all the time..

Something definitely not right here. 60,000 people in the stadium yet he heard one comment which nobody, including other players, linesman or fans in the area heard and hasn't been able to be picked up after hours of trawling the cameras and mics etc. Maybe he misheard something or is just making it up for attention. Who knows but spurs have a pretty good record on anti racism etc.

I personally have been up all the Spurs areas and seen many games up there over the years and they probably have the biggest multicultural fan base on football .

Annis they know exactly where it reportedly came from and yet cant categorically say it happened! Now they are going to use lip readers and anything to hand to try find something that maybe didnt happen, if dont find anybody using racial language them what ? Do what did with millwall fans who celebrated at Wembley take six months and countless man hours just to get fans celebrating a win at Wembley... need to get some sort of context with this racial thing or it's going to spoil fans enjoying the game as could be pulled up for slightest indiscretion with language used...

Allan it’s getting out of order both ways in my Opinion.
I don’t think this happened, just my strong opinion.

But basically, like me, you don't really know because you weren't actually there. So your strong opinion is just your opinion. You may be right but you just honestly don't know. It's just a guess or a hunch on your part. How could you know if you weren't there? How could you?

I watched it on TV but I know someone who was there. neither of us heard it and both of us think the same...that the player misheard something .. but my friend actually being there doesn't mean his opinion carries more weight than mine. would only carry more weight had he heard something which I had not but that works both ways too , things happen in games ive attended that ive missed at the ground all the time..

You would have had to been within a few yards of the incident to have had any chance of hearing it in a 60,000 crowd. In other words perhaps only a hundred or so people in that vast and noisy stadium might, might have had any chance of hearing it. The other 60,000 would have probably had no chance of hearing it. Therefore it is rubbish for anyone to say I was there, or my friend was there and I, or they, didn't hear it so it couldn't have been true. The overwhelming majority wouldn't have had a scooby do what did or didn't happen. So how can anyone who wasn't in the immediate vicinity of the alleged incident have any view on the incident other than a feeling or a hunch? Personally I have no reason to disbelieve the player but that doesn't make me right. Just an alternative possibility, no offence meant. Merry Christmas

Something definitely not right here. 60,000 people in the stadium yet he heard one comment which nobody, including other players, linesman or fans in the area heard and hasn't been able to be picked up after hours of trawling the cameras and mics etc. Maybe he misheard something or is just making it up for attention. Who knows but spurs have a pretty good record on anti racism etc.

I personally have been up all the Spurs areas and seen many games up there over the years and they probably have the biggest multicultural fan base on football .

Annis they know exactly where it reportedly came from and yet cant categorically say it happened! Now they are going to use lip readers and anything to hand to try find something that maybe didnt happen, if dont find anybody using racial language them what ? Do what did with millwall fans who celebrated at Wembley take six months and countless man hours just to get fans celebrating a win at Wembley... need to get some sort of context with this racial thing or it's going to spoil fans enjoying the game as could be pulled up for slightest indiscretion with language used...

Allan it’s getting out of order both ways in my Opinion.
I don’t think this happened, just my strong opinion.

But basically, like me, you don't really know because you weren't actually there. So your strong opinion is just your opinion. You may be right but you just honestly don't know. It's just a guess or a hunch on your part. How could you know if you weren't there? How could you?

I watched it on TV but I know someone who was there. neither of us heard it and both of us think the same...that the player misheard something .. but my friend actually being there doesn't mean his opinion carries more weight than mine. would only carry more weight had he heard something which I had not but that works both ways too , things happen in games ive attended that ive missed at the ground all the time..

You would have had to been within a few yards of the incident to have had any chance of hearing it in a 60,000 crowd. In other words perhaps only a hundred or so people in that vast and noisy stadium might, might have had any chance of hearing it. The other 60,000 would have probably had no chance of hearing it. Therefore it is rubbish for anyone to say I was there, or my friend was there and I, or they, didn't hear it so it couldn't have been true. The overwhelming majority wouldn't have had a scooby do what did or didn't happen. So how can anyone who wasn't in the immediate vicinity of the alleged incident have any view on the incident other than a feeling or a hunch? Personally I have no reason to disbelieve the player but that doesn't make me right. Just an alternative possibility, no offence meant. Merry Christmas

Exactly

Only the fan in the glasses had action taken against him for racial abuse. The level of hatred and intimidation on show though is appalling and I find it difficult to understand how one racial slur is any worse than a torrent of other abuse. I can't believe the players made it up but it would be very easy to interpret abuse aimed at you like this in many different ways.

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Only the fan in the glasses had action taken against him for racial abuse. The level of hatred and intimidation on show though is appalling and I find it difficult to understand how one racial slur is any worse than a torrent of other abuse. I can't believe the players made it up but it would be very easy to interpret abuse aimed at you like this in many different ways.

This is not the match we are on about.

Yes there is a volatile atmosphere at this Man City game v Man United, like most derby games. But it does not mean they are being racist every time.

I appreciate that. This is the Chelsea Man City game. The issue I'm raising is that all four of those men are behaving in a way that should be condemned. One of them used a racist word for which he was banned but the other three are equally as banable in my opinion.

I remember being behind two of our so called fans at an away Arsenal game. The level of language and general anti social behaviour was disgusting. Numerous fans reported them to stewards. In the end both got ejected for smoking! Racism is vile but lots of what goes on is equally as vile.

Something definitely not right here. 60,000 people in the stadium yet he heard one comment which nobody, including other players, linesman or fans in the area heard and hasn't been able to be picked up after hours of trawling the cameras and mics etc. Maybe he misheard something or is just making it up for attention. Who knows but spurs have a pretty good record on anti racism etc.

I personally have been up all the Spurs areas and seen many games up there over the years and they probably have the biggest multicultural fan base on football .

Annis they know exactly where it reportedly came from and yet cant categorically say it happened! Now they are going to use lip readers and anything to hand to try find something that maybe didnt happen, if dont find anybody using racial language them what ? Do what did with millwall fans who celebrated at Wembley take six months and countless man hours just to get fans celebrating a win at Wembley... need to get some sort of context with this racial thing or it's going to spoil fans enjoying the game as could be pulled up for slightest indiscretion with language used...

Allan it’s getting out of order both ways in my Opinion.
I don’t think this happened, just my strong opinion.

But basically, like me, you don't really know because you weren't actually there. So your strong opinion is just your opinion. You may be right but you just honestly don't know. It's just a guess or a hunch on your part. How could you know if you weren't there? How could you?

I watched it on TV but I know someone who was there. neither of us heard it and both of us think the same...that the player misheard something .. but my friend actually being there doesn't mean his opinion carries more weight than mine. would only carry more weight had he heard something which I had not but that works both ways too , things happen in games ive attended that ive missed at the ground all the time..

You would have had to been within a few yards of the incident to have had any chance of hearing it in a 60,000 crowd. In other words perhaps only a hundred or so people in that vast and noisy stadium might, might have had any chance of hearing it. The other 60,000 would have probably had no chance of hearing it. Therefore it is rubbish for anyone to say I was there, or my friend was there and I, or they, didn't hear it so it couldn't have been true. The overwhelming majority wouldn't have had a scooby do what did or didn't happen. So how can anyone who wasn't in the immediate vicinity of the alleged incident have any view on the incident other than a feeling or a hunch? Personally I have no reason to disbelieve the player but that doesn't make me right. Just an alternative possibility, no offence meant. Merry Christmas

mate its you that told someone..……...you don't really know BECAUSE YOU WERE NOT THERE.. nobody else suggested someone in a 60k crowds opinion was more valid .…I pointed out how wrong that was which you clearly did not read...so yes I fully agree what YOU said was rubbish.
is it possible a player heard racial chanting that nobody else heard..

This player has got a history of making these claims and unfounded as well.

This player has got a history of making these claims and unfounded as well.

My personal opinion is I don’t believe him.

Something definitely not right here. 60,000 people in the stadium yet he heard one comment which nobody, including other players, linesman or fans in the area heard and hasn't been able to be picked up after hours of trawling the cameras and mics etc. Maybe he misheard something or is just making it up for attention. Who knows but spurs have a pretty good record on anti racism etc.

I personally have been up all the Spurs areas and seen many games up there over the years and they probably have the biggest multicultural fan base on football .

Annis they know exactly where it reportedly came from and yet cant categorically say it happened! Now they are going to use lip readers and anything to hand to try find something that maybe didnt happen, if dont find anybody using racial language them what ? Do what did with millwall fans who celebrated at Wembley take six months and countless man hours just to get fans celebrating a win at Wembley... need to get some sort of context with this racial thing or it's going to spoil fans enjoying the game as could be pulled up for slightest indiscretion with language used...

Allan it’s getting out of order both ways in my Opinion.
I don’t think this happened, just my strong opinion.

But basically, like me, you don't really know because you weren't actually there. So your strong opinion is just your opinion. You may be right but you just honestly don't know. It's just a guess or a hunch on your part. How could you know if you weren't there? How could you?

I watched it on TV but I know someone who was there. neither of us heard it and both of us think the same...that the player misheard something .. but my friend actually being there doesn't mean his opinion carries more weight than mine. would only carry more weight had he heard something which I had not but that works both ways too , things happen in games ive attended that ive missed at the ground all the time..

You would have had to been within a few yards of the incident to have had any chance of hearing it in a 60,000 crowd. In other words perhaps only a hundred or so people in that vast and noisy stadium might, might have had any chance of hearing it. The other 60,000 would have probably had no chance of hearing it. Therefore it is rubbish for anyone to say I was there, or my friend was there and I, or they, didn't hear it so it couldn't have been true. The overwhelming majority wouldn't have had a scooby do what did or didn't happen. So how can anyone who wasn't in the immediate vicinity of the alleged incident have any view on the incident other than a feeling or a hunch? Personally I have no reason to disbelieve the player but that doesn't make me right. Just an alternative possibility, no offence meant. Merry Christmas

mate its you that told someone..……...you don't really know BECAUSE YOU WERE NOT THERE.. nobody else suggested someone in a 60k crowds opinion was more valid .…I pointed out how wrong that was which you clearly did not read...so yes I fully agree what YOU said was rubbish.
is it possible a player heard racial chanting that nobody else heard..

Got to be honest....don't know what the hell you said then!!! Are you saying that I told someone??? WTF?? I wasn't there....just saying that if someone was at the ground and they didn't hear anything it doesn't mean that the incident did or didn't happen as you would need to be almost next to the person who did the racist chanting to hear it in such a big crowd. Anything else is just a guess. Hope that clears up any misunderstanding.

Good to see people pushing back against this nonesense.

A few days prior to this non - incident was yet another grooming gang trail, where all the perpetrators were... yes, you guesed it.

The victim was a 12 year old CHILD... of a certain demographic. Guess which?

Independent news paper reporting 19.000 victims of grooming gangs this year alone.

Yet football/social racism is the news focus that week...

It's psychological warfare, our establishment hate us yet people on here and else where still do their bidding. Western man is in mental bondage but for how long...

Good to see people pushing back against this nonesense.

A few days prior to this non - incident was yet another grooming gang trail, where all the perpetrators were... yes, you guesed it.

The victim was a 12 year old CHILD... of a certain demographic. Guess which?

Independent news paper reporting 19.000 victims of grooming gangs this year alone.

Yet football/social racism is the news focus that week...

It's psychological warfare, our establishment hate us yet people on here and else where still do their bidding. Western man is in mental bondage but for how long...

Also, the average sentence of that grooming gang was 4-5 years. 8 yrs being the longest. Out in 2.5 years for CHILD rape...given the demographics of victims. It has to be the worst case of racism in post war Britain doesn't it? Possibly ever in our history....

At some point the Logos will rise but how bad must it get before we, as a society break the mental shackles of MSM misinformation

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